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Title: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 12, 2011, 10:25:16 PM +0000
All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 BST (20 mins)
Qual 2:       20:20 BST (20 mins)
Race:          20:40 BST (60 mins)- note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GTC from the UKGTR car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics) v2.15.0.0
Track: Mid-Ohio (no chicane) (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_midohio)
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable - based on real world conditions.

WEATHER REPORT

Race start conditions:
 Weather: Overcast
 On line: Dry
 Off line: Dry
 Ambient: 12.60
 Track: 14.58
 Probability of rain: 100%

Race Forecast Conditions:
 Early Conditions:  Rain
 Mid Race Conditions:  Light rain
 Late Race Conditions:  Rain


Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: x2.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: simracing.org.uk GTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=345;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.







Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2011, 09:34:27 PM +0000
Great track this  8)

any GTC lap times for comparison? Only seems to list P&G times at top.

Im banging in late 1:22's race pace so far, seems good  :) but nowt to compare with.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 21, 2011, 09:38:59 PM +0000
Im banging in late 1:22's race pace so far, seems good  :) but nowt to compare with.
It's probably slow Mark :P ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 21, 2011, 09:42:23 PM +0000
Here's the last time we raced here in GTC's, not sure why the records aren't at the top & you seem to have improved from 24's MJ ??? Life in the old dog yet eh? :laugh:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8323#event2268


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: goldtop on November 22, 2011, 12:11:28 AM +0000
Here's the last time we raced here in GTC's, not sure why the records aren't at the top & you seem to have improved from 24's MJ ??? Life in the old dog yet eh? :laugh:

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8323#event2268


Think the chicaney thing might have something to do with that.

My favourite track. Hope I can make this one, but woefully short of pracci time these days.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 22, 2011, 06:38:28 AM +0000
Think the chicaney thing might have something to do with that.
Phew! I knew there must be a simple more likely reason than MJ getting faster less slow with age ;) ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Mark J on November 22, 2011, 08:06:41 AM +0000
eheh laugh it up Legzy  ;D 

we shall see  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: spanner on November 22, 2011, 09:43:53 AM +0000
Back to a proper track after the horrible canadian detour. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 22, 2011, 10:53:04 AM +0000
 ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: lazlow on November 22, 2011, 12:09:16 PM +0000
Nice avatar  :o ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 22, 2011, 12:30:31 PM +0000
Well, if I'm sincere my son plays it most . :P I played for some time then went back to World of Tanks. And my son now plays Skyrim.  :D So BF3 is on a wait at this time. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: lazlow on November 22, 2011, 12:35:57 PM +0000
Well, if I'm sincere my son plays it most . :P I played for some time then went back to World of Tanks. And my son now plays Skyrim.  :D So BF3 is on a wait at this time. ;)
Not your BF signature?? :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 22, 2011, 01:22:19 PM +0000
It's combined. :P Not my fault if you only get one soldier. ::) We had separate profiles in BF2 where we preferred different roles: I was a tanker and chopper pilot while he preferred flying planes and being the sneaky guy. In BF3 I didn't find a way for us to have different soldiers with one game copy, so... I wash my hands on this. :-X

(http://joshinthecity.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/wash-hands_.jpg?w=614)  


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 22, 2011, 05:29:27 PM +0000
Well, if I'm sincere my son plays it most...
You encourage us to help out with English sometimes TT. Well I'm the last person that should help anyone with English, but... till someone corrects me, I believe what you meant to say above was:

"Well, if I'm honest my son plays it most..."

Your grasp of English always impresses me puts me to shame ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 22, 2011, 06:34:37 PM +0000
I might throw some of the more sampled words I learned around here... ;) but I won't. Point is, if some free game attracts me more than BF3 it might not be made as good as I hoped. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 23, 2011, 05:52:22 PM +0000
Hey folks.

Am I right in saying we get 1 free car change??

If so I am changing car for the rest of this season :-)

I have managed to hit 1:22.6

Might be able to get a wee bit better with a few tweaks. Viper I'm struggling to get under 1.24


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 23, 2011, 06:20:22 PM +0000
yes & yes, the Viper is a bit of a black art :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: spanner on November 23, 2011, 06:43:33 PM +0000
Yes your allowed to chance the car once, after that then you will be penalised by a points reduction each time you race with a new car.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 23, 2011, 10:12:32 PM +0000
Sweet car change for me then lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 23, 2011, 11:42:02 PM +0000
I used ViperCC-q (https://www.humyo.com/DzKHPZb/ViperCC-q.svm?a=PJBzWbRU2kM) setup at Montreal, might be useful here. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Manteos on November 25, 2011, 02:51:18 PM +0000
Hi guys :)

I guess that I will skip even this one. It will be a busy week end for me, so... have a good race!

Cu soon :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 25, 2011, 04:24:12 PM +0000
I guess that I will skip even this one. It will be a busy week end for me, so... have a good race!
Guess it's up to me to fly the Team Oldie flag (god I hope API & Lazlow show up too ;)) & put the SuperSonic's back in their rightful place (Behind us :P)
 ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 25, 2011, 06:53:24 PM +0000
No chance.

I have made a tactical switch of car to make sure we stay ahead.

Mwahahahaha :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: nsfast on November 26, 2011, 11:45:35 AM +0000
I'll stick with the Z4 for this one. Best save my potential change for Road America. Z4 lack of pace is going to be a big problem for that one.  ::)



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 26, 2011, 10:00:20 PM +0000
The server is now running weather with temperature similar to what we can expect in the race.

Practise 1 is wet and the other sessions are dry.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 26, 2011, 10:17:53 PM +0000
aslong as the race is 'NOT' wet then my plan will work  ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 27, 2011, 05:50:04 PM +0000
Meesa thinks itsa gonna be wet one tonight betcha betcha


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 27, 2011, 06:25:32 PM +0000
I this is gonna be a wet race then sorry but I wont be participating im only gonna cause a major hazard out there as i cant even get 1 lap without spinning.

my best is 1:50


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 27, 2011, 06:49:42 PM +0000
Have you tried some of the tyre options QS? Some tyre brands have useless intermediates (I have not been on the server yet to see which tyres I need).

Maximum wing and easy on the gas/brake is the general advise for wet racing but, yes it is difficult when you are not used to it.

The chance of a wet race is very high.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 27, 2011, 06:52:04 PM +0000
Ive tried the intermediates, both wets, both wings high diff right down and still spin lol ill try again though i dont wanna let the team down


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 27, 2011, 06:57:47 PM +0000
Bad track for a wet race. Feels wasted as in dry it's a great track for close racing. :-\ But I guess in RL they can't pick their weather also either.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 27, 2011, 07:46:46 PM +0000
1st post updated with weather repot.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 27, 2011, 10:06:49 PM +0000
Now then where do I start?

Great qualify session for me, I got 3rd I think.

For the race I decided on a 1 stop strategy with starting on wets, I did have stupidly long gear ratios, however that was so the car was drivable for me and less likely to spin on exiting the corners.

Was in 7th place untill lap 28-29ish where I span on the exit to turn 1 due to clipping the grass on the outside, this allowed APEX to pass me and then there were a couple of minor off's, however this only lost me a couple of seconds per time. Finished the race in 8/10 so all in a good race for me.

Cya all next week.

Chears guys.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 27, 2011, 10:15:57 PM +0000
Results and replay in the usual places


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: quicksilver384 on November 27, 2011, 10:17:35 PM +0000
Well done nfast and APEX the lead is now 20 pts :-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 27, 2011, 10:31:21 PM +0000
Nice race all. :)

I was happy to see people pitting before me as I was struggling to make my soft slicks grip the track for the first 13 laps. The track seemed to be drying up a bit at around lap 12 - 13 so I stayed out a bit longer than I had originally planned. This enabled me to take the lead for a while as everyone in front of me pitted.

After my own stop I was a few places down but, sure that most drivers in front of me would pit a 2nd time. I had enough fuel to get to the end and hopefully my hard wets would last as well, as long as it did not dry up again. It did not. ;D

I worked my way back up to 2nd place as others pitted or had problems. Jon was in 1st at this point and had a big lead. When he eventually pitted again, he came out right in front of me. I put as much pressure on Jon as I could while his tyres were still cold but, I could not make a pass. A few laps later and he was building a lead again.

Great racing and difficult to get the strategy right.

Thanks for taking part all, see you next time.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: H@L9000 on November 27, 2011, 10:33:34 PM +0000
Oh, and sorry for a big side ways moment early on (lap 3 I think) that could have messed a few people up. :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: goldtop on November 27, 2011, 10:52:18 PM +0000
Strange race  ???

Started on slicks with full fuel and planned to dive into the pits when the rain came to top up and change to wets, then try to run to the end. So much for strategy  ::) Unfortunately I was unable to take on fuel and after a second attempt failed it was pointless continuing.

I can't spare the time to fluff around with wet/dry/inter setups these days, so will probably give the rest of this series a miss.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: JonM_uk on November 27, 2011, 11:02:26 PM +0000
 I was quite surprised to come first in qualifying as I didn't think the Morgan had it in it at this track.

The weather conditions really made this a very interesting race, I was glad for the rain because TT had me beat easily and made a nice pass on me ealry on. When the rain came my soft slicks lost all temperature and I had difficultly controlling the car so I pitted and took soft wets back and front, fortunately soft slicks and soft wet tyre pressures were about the same so It was a straight swap. I came out in 4th or 5th and held a steady gap to the leaders for a while. Then the rain started to dry up and my softs started overheating and the car's handling was just starting to go off, at this point I was praying for rain and the rain came heavy ;D Now my soft wets came into there own and I closed down the leaders very quickly and took the lead after TT pitted for the 2nd time. The car was feeling great now and I could've lasted the race but I thought I'd take another pitstop to just be sure because I had a decent lead. When I came out of the pits I had had H@L right on my tail, I knew if I got my tyres up to temp without any accidents I'd be away and after a few laps the fresh rubber allowed me to pull a little lead out before the rain stopped! My tyres totally overheated but with only 4 laps to go and quite fresh rubber I had a nice run in.

Nice race everybody 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Legzy on November 28, 2011, 12:45:31 AM +0000
sorry I missed it chaps, picked up the family from heathrow & time was always against me.
See you next week :)


p.s. That's two GTC races in a row, Team Oldie have been a no show >:(, even Team Shark have managed to swim past us :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Truetom on November 28, 2011, 12:52:33 PM +0000
Considering I have a flu ... I'm quite satisfied with the result. :) One of the rare sensations was passing Jon. :shifty: Your tyres were red hot, Jon. :D Well, the miracle soon faded away when the rain started and I had to pit. There was no way I could keep on driving on slicks - hats off to those who could. Or maybe they should have tried it with a Viper. ;) How's that grammar / tense wise?
Anyways, hard wets were a good choice for the remainder of the race and I just kept it on track, not racing really. All in all it was a better event than I expected. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: jpv on November 28, 2011, 09:50:01 PM +0000
Very exciting race even though I was driving pretty much alone after the first few laps. Started with soft slicks and swapped for hard wets as soon as the rain started, after that it was about trying to stay between the lines and making the tyres last, even tried cooling them off the line Schumacher-style when the rain ceased. ;D In the end quicksilver and APEX were closing the gap quickly but apparently couldn't quite make it before the end.

I do like this real world weather, however I've been wondering why we insist on these tracks, maybe we should try racing in the southern hemisphere at this time of the year?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Mid-Ohio (Full) - Nov 27
Post by: Mark J on November 29, 2011, 07:43:48 PM +0000
was disapointed to miss this, real life got in the way and spoiled my fun  :( Cant make the LMP race here either  :'(