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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (16 laps)

Track: Interlagos - Autodromo José Carlos Pace 1979 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_interlagos79)

Cars allowed: BMW 2002tii Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_bmw2002tii), Porsche 911 RSR 3.0, Ford Escort RS 2000, Boss 302 Ford Mustang Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_boss302mustang)

Drivers are reminded that the maximum number of drives in any car is four. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdEplNWdDYkxNZy1rZ0J5dHNtVHlUX3c)

This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (http://www.humyo.com/9240347/SimRacing.org.uk/UKGTL/Cars/SRou_UKGTL_Skins_1.8.0.0.exe) and the Season 10 Skin Pack (http://www.gamefront.com/files/16376667/SRou_GTL_UKGTL10GGT_1.10.0.0.exe)which will need to be installed prior to racing.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk GTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=330;theme=5)

Special Notes: None

hi,

 
i did download the cars, but i am new to this cars so i have questions.

-i see BMW 2002tii and bmw2002tii2 (orS), they have different PS and i think weights too, can i use both? or only the car 2002tii (without S/2).
-what is the 3.0 RSR? the one with more PS or with lower PS?
-is doing a force pitstop needed for this race (series?), do not like pitstops in GTL
-is this race already in 2012 JAN 2nd??, because it is in page 4 in this letter/forum?.

thanks for answear

servus

You can use both BMW's
All the Porsches are 3.0 RSR's
No pitstops for this series
Not sure what page 4 means but yes this race will be held on the 2nd Jan 2012

Please ask again if you have any other questions and we hope to see you on the grid, OK?

thanks you,

everthing is ok now for me.

servus

Nice one Tony had a 2002 for a couple of years in that bright red like the lower half of the car at the link - nice little motor.  Also did borrow garage owner's standard 2002Tii, it really went.

Shame you only get to have four drives tho Bill Thomas. Choose carefully.

IMPORTANT: PLEASE NOTE

I have added another skin pack requirement for this series. It has skins for the Porsche and the Escort. We used them in the Season 10 "Great German Tour" challenge, so if you downloaded them then you don't need to do it again. They are the same as before with no additions.

hello,

i was on server and there was a bmw csl for take too, is this car ok? is this same as 2002tii cars?   PS and weights are not same.

a little bit more then 3minutes i did, think 3.03 it was (not sure) as best lap, what will other driver make? never did drive in this track with a GTL car.

servus

You can only ever take the cars listed in the race announcement. The other cars you see have to be shown due to the nature of GTL and mod cars. If you did choose a car not listed in the race announcement you would be booted from the game as the car wouldn't be available on the server.

I would say your laptime was a good'un but we do get some  :alien:'s turn out some jaw dropping times in qually.

I'm struggling at the moment with my new wheel and so I'm finding car control a bit off. Best car seems like the Porsche then the Escort then the Mustang. I'm finding the BMW a real beast to keep on the track as it seems to want to spin around at the tighter corners. Hopefully I'll be able to get more praccy in tomorrow before the race.

Don't forget the extra skin pack guy's.

I second that. New track for me and I just tested the 02 for 3 or 4 laps - very difficult.

Wished I had more time for practice but I had to do another race at LeMans (P&G) at NG/GC yesterday  ::) ;D
which ended in a retirement after 7 laps. But it was interesting to see the differences between GTL and P&G
on a nearly identical track than last week with the prototypes (choose the Alpine A 110 1300 yesterday cause
I could not handle the 906-8 LH in corners  ::) ).

Hope to join tonight.

I'm putting a copy of my current BMW setup in the 79 Interlagos online folder. I can do a half decent lap using it so it may be of use to anyone else who is struggling keeping this thing on the tarmac.

I'm finding gentle braking helps alot!

Ok installed everything on the list, but keep getting a car not present on server error?????

sorted

Replay and results now posted.

Please Note: Incident involving Hristo Itchov is under investigation. Therefore results are provisional only.

A messy race for me and a lucky win.

Didn't get a clean lap in quali and my slow and slippery getaway from the grid saw me back in 7th I think by T1. Had some great fun fighting back and chasing down the leaders...thanks for flashing me through btw Navin  :-* . Had a great battle with Geoffers in the tricky beemer and Hristo, eventually getting past and pulling out a small gap.

The clutch on my CSPs has packed up, so I was having to use autoclutch which I don't usually use. Going into the slow turns I think it must have been kicking in, because I had 2 horrible spins which lost me the lead and put me well back at one point. Then I think Geoffers must have made a mistake and I was able to close in and eventually pass into the wonderful T3. At this stage with only a few laps to go Hristo had about a 20 sec lead which I managed to close a little, but then on the final lap I passed him in the pits to cross the line in 1st  ??? Not sure what happened there matey, but very bad luck.

Only 3 more races in my fave Porsche and then I'll have to learn to drive something else  :)

Congrats on the win GT, you & Hristo had great pace in the 911.

Got a poor start, but most everyone else seemed to get a worse one & I was 2nd to Phil at T1. Got the lead on lap 2 but soon had GT & Hristo hunting me down. The Porsches were better into the fast corners than the BMW (little more setup work required I think) & soon found a way past. A few laps later they both went off  :o & I was back in front, short lived though as Hristo soon got ahead again & then I spun & clouted the barriers which gave the car more understeer. GT quickly overtook & dissappeared into the distance & I reeled off the last few laps safe in 3rd, which turned into 2nd when Hristo pitted on the last lap.  ???

Good series Tony, unfortunately I may have to miss a few races soon  :(

Game crashes when I try to load replay. Is it working OK for others? I may need a fresh install - suffered yet again a long freeze followed by graphics corruption in tonight's race.

I'm getting the same with the replay Phil  ???

Intermingled season opener for me on an unknown track which really needs getting used to.

Thanks Geoffers for the recommendation of using the 2002 tii S instead the 2002 tii.
The tii S actually is much easier and faster to drive.
After changing the car I could improve in quali from 3.19 to 3.13 which still is so much slower
than the pace of the champs  ;D
During the race I had some good laps in front of Tony and Jamera with a new pb of 3:11 but
at the end of lap 6 I lost the car on the camber at the beginning of the home straight an crashed heavily.
Could continue but then had a very nice  ;D  "flight" into the opposing traffic (fortunately there
was no traffic at that moment) due to one moment of deficiency in concentration.
Got a stop and go penalty and quitted because I touched down in quite another region of the track
and would have lost at least half a lap in addition to the stop and go penalty.

See you next time.

sorry if i did make problems in start, this was first time ever i did drive this car and i did forget to make a test start :-[.
it looks like i did hold my 1st position after start, but then i did look back, to see where other cars are and in same time i did shift with full throttle from 1st to 2nd (or 2nd to 3rd??) without clutch and car did make a hard spin without warning (was not thinking this will happen in this cars), did hit the wall hard and was totaly last and engine was off too, did take long time to make auto clutch on again and start the engine new, not sure if car was damaged after this, do not know where i can see this in xd??.

i was now totaly last and then i did drive ok, after 6 laps i was 4th, but the leading 3 driver was already around 25 sec. in front.
the speed of front drivers was very fast, so now ways to catch this driver and i had lonely race.
i did 3 spins too, think 2 of them i did spin if i did shift in 1st gear for a corner, in this car you must always have high concentrate which i did not have.

but to drive this car is very good feeling, not easy, but good.

well done to goldtop and podiums.

servus

Replay: CTD my own replay, but the same error with server replay  ???

Grats GT, Geoffers & Hristo  :thumbup1:...but are the rankings correct? Can't see the replay, but I think NRJ & I moved one place up over the finish line...what went wrong  :-\

Maybe I should fix a replay analyzer & see if it works.

No changes in Replay Analyzer (http://www.gt-legends.eu/UKGTL/Report/GT_Cup_76/79Interlagos/index.html)  ;D

Nice report Berger, I thought you had a great race.  BTW as far as I know XP will only show a blown tyre or o/a engine health. Nothing else in terms of wear and tear.

Now I definately want to see the replay  ;)

I should have stuck with the RSR, not a fan of sim 911s so tried Boss 302 - too slow for me, Beemer which seemed
ok, so dialed in a best guess setup, and then spent the whole race 1: learning the track, and 2: Learning the car!
ughhh it was horrible, drives like it weighs 4 tons and has jelly for suspension. Not a car to drive without some
proper setup time, kept going more out of determination than hope, managed to get in Phil's way for a couple of
laps after he fell off, then just did a keep fit course twirling the wheel one way or the other as the car
wandered around with a mind of it's own.  :o Actually would probably drive ok at a smoother track, but here
with all the odd camber changes was a real challenge just to complete a lap.
I also went over the grass a couple of times after spins, and got one cut track, also the replay doesn't work
here either.

I really wasn't sure which car to go with for the season opener. Felt that the Escort would be good but that at this track the Porsche would edge it. The Boss seemed off pace which was disappointing as I love the look and sound of that mod. I did finally get some sort of control over the BMW and was really tempted to take that but as I was getting used to my new wheel I went with the Porsche.
Started well. In fact as I progressed up the grid it was like the parting of the red sea as cars were throwing themselves out of my way to the left and to the right. I think I was in fourth place by the time I reached Curva 3, so to celebrate I span off and hit the infield armco. This let everyman and his dog past me so I then had to see about catching my mates Eifel and Jamera.
Don't remember much else except that the rest of the race seemed to involve me catching, passing then crashing, over and over again, particularly with Jamera, with whom I had some good close racing.
I do recall being lapped by Hristo and then giving Jamera a free pass cos I thought he was also lapping me. He must of thought I'd gone soft.
Anyway not a bad season opener and I'm sure there will be tracks that suit all of the cars, even that BMW.

Nothing wrong with the BMW  :P  :laugh:

There's something wrong with me when you are nearly 7 secs quicker in it  :o
 :laugh:

What an up and down race this was! I did some practice before the race to come up with a setup for the Porsche, but never expected Berger and Goldtop to be so quick. I might have been able to equal Berger's pole lap, but failed to produce a clean one in the end.

The start was a joke as I kept the throttle floored for too long and with all the noise from other cars around I couldn't hear the wheelspin, so the car spun around, luckily without causing too much trouble. I'm definitely turning off the automatic clutch next time and see how it goes.

I managed to continue immediately, but was now in 8th or something. By the end of the 1st lap I had moved up to 5th or 6th, and by the end of the second lap I think I was 3rd or 4th, but the real battle had now just begun.

We were going though the field together with Goldtop, more or less, and eventually caught up Geoffers who was flying in that BMW, despite the lack of power it has compared to the Porsche. Berger was nowhere to be seen and in this moment I had a feeling I was the faster car, so I felt quite comfortable, but that was shattered when Goldtop put his head down and started pulling away. I tried hard to close up on him, but kept making small mistakes here and there.

Surprisingly he spun in the slow section that covers the modern track and in my attempt to pass him before he recovers I overdid it as well, half-spinning to the inside. Goldtop must have spun once more as he tried to rejoin so he was left behind as I chased Geoffers who had just taken advantage of the situation. He then went off on his own on the following lap and I was now left in the lead with over 14 seconds ahead of 2nd place (I wish GTL would show who is in front and behind instead of just gaps).

There were 6 laps to go at that point in time and I was just driving within limits, trying to bring it home. Unfortunately (and stupidly) GTL considers going wide at the penultimate corner as cutting the track, regardless that you lose time and never gain time doing that. I went off once before already and had another off there with 3 laps or so to go. On the penultimate lap, which I messed up two times in different spots, losing some 10 seconds, I again went wide at that corner near the end, as it was just the way my car was set up and the bump sent me wide, so I got a stop/go penalty. I missed the pit entrance on that lap and since I thought that I would be DQ if I don't serve the penalty, I opted to stop/go on the last lap, hoping I would have enough time to cross the line. Little did I know that GTL would not simply serve me a stop/go, but a fully pitstop with refueling and tire changes, and possibly repairs, I don't really know. I stood in the pits for 19 seconds before it let me continue and only managed to finish 3rd...

It's very disappointing to end the race like that but lesson has been learned. It was exciting to battle against Geoffers and Goldtop though, so there were some positives to take away from the race.

Have you installed xD?

What Phil said.
XD in GTL doesn't show you the real time gaps to in front and behind like GTR2/P&G
but it does list the drivers in front and behind with gap updates at points round the track.

No, but I'll check it out, thanks.

This is the XD readme


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     XD 2.1.4 by Yako
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Info

It's an addon for GTL/GTR2/Race07/GTR-Evo (Steam only! Version: 1.2.1.2) which lets you display some useful informations whilst driving.
In Particular:

MoTeC Data

    * Tyretemperatures (In/Mid/Out)
    * Tyrewear
    * Tyrepressure
    * Enginetemperatures (Water/Oil)
    * Braketemperatures
    * Engine Health

Session Info

    * Track- and ambienttemperature
    * Session length (remaining time in a practice session or laps in race)
    * Fuelconsumption (for last lap / average)

Advanced Timingstable

    * Driverslist and their postion
    * During practice the fastest laps are displayed
    * In Race the gaps are displayed according to leader or to yourself (can be customized). These times are updated 3 times during a lap!

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     Installation Instructions
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Download and extract the content to your GTR²/GTL/RACE07 installation folder.
Then you need the latest DirectX 9.0c Package.
Download from Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en

This is required! Without the DirectX-Update the game won't start if the XD is installed.

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     Contact
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You've found a bug? Feature request? Feel free to contact me: [email protected]
Be sure to visit: http://www.vitumo.de regularly for updates...

Hristo, can you explain why you thought that GTL was performing a full service and not a stop/go? 19 seconds does sound like about the right length of time to be held.

Uhm, stop/go means that you stop and continue immediately. It wasn't a timed penalty. Instead of serving the penalty though, GTL performed a normal pitstop to my car lol.

In GTL a stop/go penalty is served by waiting in your pit box until your pit crew man waves you out. No work on your car is carried out.

Why is it called stop & go then? Anyway, next time I'm just driving to the finish, even if GTL DQ me. Some tracks detect cutting at ridiculous places.

I'm satisfied that Hristo's finish postion is a fair reflection of actual events and that he should suffer no further penalty.

Therefore the results stand as published.

What a crazy start it was.. Too bad about the replay as I was looking forward to see just exactly what happened the start.. Looked like the start of our figure 8 race :P. Not sure why everyone's replay is messed up but what I did notice that scoring positioning was all wacky at different points during the race :-\. Not much to say about my race other than getting a gift of 3rd place before turn one ;D. Most of the starting challenged cars that started ahead of me eventually got passed me. After that it was a yo-yo of a race between Pelle and myself. Pelle was quicker than me but I was more consistent so Pelle kept getting up to me (passing me a couple of times)and then dropped back after a small mistake..In the end the turtle won that battle ;D

Congrats to Goldtop for a well deserved win no matter how it came your way ;)
Congrats as well to Geoffers for 2nd place and for being right on point with that little Bimmer.
Congrats to Hrisro for 3rd place even if it was a hard pill to swallow given your pace.
It was also nice to see a good turnout for the first race of 2012 even with some still on holiday.