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Title: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2011, 08:05:56 AM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (32 laps)

Track: Jarama Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/21329136/SRou_Jarama1979_1.0.0.0.exe)

Cars allowed: BMW 2002tii Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_bmw2002tii), Porsche 911 RSR 3.0, Ford Escort RS 2000, Boss 302 Ford Mustang Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_boss302mustang)

This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (http://www.humyo.com/9240347/SimRacing.org.uk/UKGTL/Cars/SRou_UKGTL_Skins_1.8.0.0.exe) and the Season 10 Skin Pack (http://www.gamefront.com/files/16376667/SRou_GTL_UKGTL10GGT_1.10.0.0.exe)which will need to be installed prior to racing.

Drivers are reminded that the maximum number of drives in any car is four. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdEplNWdDYkxNZy1rZ0J5dHNtVHlUX3c)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk GTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=330;theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: BillThomas on March 04, 2012, 10:41:13 AM +0000
Done a few laps in the Beemer - no fun, too cammy,  ::) can't find the right gear for the slower corners.  Oh dear what shall I drive?  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 04, 2012, 05:44:23 PM +0000
Done a few laps in the Beemer - no fun, too cammy,  ::) can't find the right gear for the slower corners.  Oh dear what shall I drive?  ???
I can't decide either Bill, but after a quick couple of laps in each car I seem to stay on the track longer in the Escort.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Berger R - 74 on March 04, 2012, 06:32:15 PM +0000
hello,

i did try to download the track,
but if i did finish to download i got a warning.
something like this.....
this software is not often be downloaded and can make a problem in my computer (do not know exactly words in english)

can this be a virus? or other bad think?

i did not open then trackfile, not sure what to do now?

servus


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 04, 2012, 06:52:36 PM +0000
hello,

i did try to download the track,
but if i did finish to download i got a warning.
something like this.....
this software is not often be downloaded and can make a problem in my computer (do not know exactly words in english)

can this be a virus? or other bad think?

i did not open then trackfile, not sure what to do now?

servus


The download is in an exe. format and includes a self installer. That has probably triggered your anti-virus software. Go ahead and install and then double click the exe. file. The track will be download into your GTL providing you tell it where your GTL is on your computer.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Berger R - 74 on March 04, 2012, 07:06:49 PM +0000
hello,

i did try to download the track,
but if i did finish to download i got a warning.
something like this.....
this software is not often be downloaded and can make a problem in my computer (do not know exactly words in english)

can this be a virus? or other bad think?

i did not open then trackfile, not sure what to do now?

servus


The download is in an exe. format and includes a self installer. That has probably triggered your anti-virus software. Go ahead and install and then double click the exe. file. The track will be download into your GTL providing you tell it where your GTL is on your computer.

ok, thanks,
i will install the track,

i was not sure what to do after i become from my virus programm the message, that this download can perhpas damage my computer.

servus


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: BillThomas on March 04, 2012, 07:09:29 PM +0000
hello,

i did try to download the track,
but if i did finish to download i got a warning.
something like this.....
this software is not often be downloaded and can make a problem in my computer (do not know exactly words in english)

can this be a virus? or other bad think?

i did not open then trackfile, not sure what to do now?

servus


I get the same problem.  Windows/Norton seem to object when a little used server is selected - they have no data base experience, so they try and stop you.  I use the Run anyway option and it's been OK so far.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 04, 2012, 07:23:54 PM +0000
After a bit more practise in the BMW I think I'll take that tomorrow. Although it's never a dull moment I find it actualy helps on those tight curves when it tries to spin itself around. Try the revs at 9800. Seemed not to bad to me.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: SpecialKS on March 04, 2012, 08:35:00 PM +0000
I'll take the BMW too - already for the third time - not yet decided which version.
1.37.5 in the 2002iis, 1.38.5 in the 2002ii (first track where I'm able to handle this one),
using a setup, DeMartini kindly posted in the online section tonight (thank you again  :) ).
Feeling very good for me.
Looking forward for tomorrows event.

BTW - no problems with downloading and installing the track - using Avira Free Antivirus


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: phspok on March 04, 2012, 09:15:27 PM +0000
Tried them all, and the only thing I can get round more than a lap without spinning is the 302, I have tried
full coast diff and max rear grip to no avail.
So. 1:39s in Mustang 1:35.7 in the Beemer,  hmm ok I take the beemer  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: De Martini on March 05, 2012, 12:38:30 PM +0000
Hi fellas, i'd like to take part tonight at the Jarama with my lovely 2002tii  :) not sure about my continuity in the rest of the season though  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: phspok on March 05, 2012, 12:43:17 PM +0000
Welcome De Martini

You can do as many or as few events as you like, no problem
Half the field seem to be using your Beemer setup, so you might as well come along as well  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: M Cinderby on March 05, 2012, 01:30:33 PM +0000
 :( Dont think i can make this one guys. Just for the record I was getting 1.37s in the VW Porsche thingie horrible nasty Beatle.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: senyorlobo on March 05, 2012, 02:09:00 PM +0000
I also join to race today.

I hope to take part in more races in the rest of the season.

thanks

Jose (senyorlobo)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Navin R Johnson on March 05, 2012, 06:58:31 PM +0000
What a nice surprise to have both Dario and Jose for this race 8) . Great to see you fellas!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: goldtop on March 05, 2012, 07:06:50 PM +0000
Not sure if I can make this one  :-\

Just had a few laps in the RSR and had to mess a lot with my usual setup to get it round without spinning. 1:34s with race fuel so far but Mr. Berger was a bit quicker than that.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: M Cinderby on March 05, 2012, 09:53:06 PM +0000
 ::) Total disaster. Great start gaining P4 then spun mid lap and had to wait for every one to pass as it was not safe to rejoin. Fought back from P13 to P6 when Martini pitted but was to far back to attack further. Richard Hammond's Porsche then decides to under steer towards the end shedding tons of time with a few spins thrown in. Ended up chasing Ken out of boredom whom was on about the same pace as me but a lap down. ;)

Congrat's to the podium guys.

 Please can some one point me in the direction of a good Porsche setup. :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 05, 2012, 10:01:57 PM +0000
Replay and results now posted

No more Porsche's for Mr Hristo


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: M Cinderby on March 05, 2012, 10:15:46 PM +0000
 ;) Perhaps he might give me his set up then!!!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 05, 2012, 10:18:32 PM +0000
Replay and results now posted

No more Porsche's for Mr Hristo

Eh?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: phspok on March 05, 2012, 10:24:15 PM +0000
We only get 4 drives in each car Hristo
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdEplNWdDYkxNZy1rZ0J5dHNtVHlUX3c#gid=0



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 05, 2012, 10:29:47 PM +0000
Oh, right, I seem to have forgotten that. Thanks for the reminder.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 06, 2012, 11:02:54 AM +0000
Jarama has never been a good circuit for me, along with the next race at Zolder, groan.

Took the BMW as I want to use up my four drives in it as quickly as possible. It's a fine car but that turning in problem kills any driving enjoyment for me.
So at a circuit I don't like in a car I can't drive it was no suprise that I qualied last and was the slowest car on the track. But I was determined to last the distance and bar many spins, collisions and being lapped umpteen times I did finish and took the points and legged it. Looks like most drivers had a more exciting race. Nice to see some old faces back again, perhaps you will join us for some of our other races.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: senyorlobo on March 06, 2012, 11:53:46 AM +0000
Nice to see some old faces back again, perhaps you will join us for some of our other races.

I will try to run some more races. It is always gratifying to run with all you guys.

My race was fun. I had a fight with De martini and phspok during the first 15 laps. Phspok was clearly faster than me and I could not follow. :-(

See you guys!!

Jose (senyorlobo)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: phspok on March 06, 2012, 12:57:36 PM +0000
Was the best race I've had for some time  :D
I used De Martinis setup for the T2000s with some mods to make it less spinnable
I increased coast diff, and set front dampers to 5 and rears to 2, front springs full hard
and rears full soft,and set the brake bias forward some more.
It still wants to swap ends into corners but mostly is controllable.

To my surprise I was slightly faster than Navin  :o and after lots of laps crept up behind him
by the end of the race, had a brief spot of glory in 3rd after Berger fell off, but he caught and passed
Navin and I after a while, so I had great fun trying to catch Nav before then end, as it was
he stayed in 3rd, but was a classic chase while it  lasted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: SpecialKS on March 06, 2012, 01:14:57 PM +0000
Registered a 1.35.4 in quali - using DeMartini's setup modified to maximum revs (thanks again for this
great setup which obviously suited to my style of driving) - couldn't believe it.

Fell to last place after the start - as usual - but could come back to place nine -I think- after lap one
due to some rumble in front of me. Smooth race without great difficulties, chasing Ade in the BDA was fun.
Then Ade had a turner and I just could avoid to met him frontally - only touched him - but unfortunately he
left the race after that  ??? So I stayed alone with 40 seconds space each in front and behind, slowed pace
a bit and had a relaxed finish.

Looking forward for the next events and hope for similar numerous participation.
Good to meet some of you other GTLDK guys again - reminds me of Henry's great LeMans series over at GTLDK
about two years ago when I did my first ever online races.
 ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: M Cinderby on March 06, 2012, 03:21:39 PM +0000
Was the best race I've had for some time  :D
I used De Martinis setup for the T2000s with some mods to make it less spinnable
I increased coast diff, and set front dampers to 5 and rears to 2, front springs full hard
and rears full soft,and set the brake bias forward some more.
It still wants to swap ends into corners but mostly is controllable.

To my surprise I was slightly faster than Navin  :o and after lots of laps crept up behind him
by the end of the race, had a brief spot of glory in 3rd after Berger fell off, but he caught and passed
Navin and I after a while, so I had great fun trying to catch Nav before then end, as it was
he stayed in 3rd, but was a classic chase while it  lasted.
Well done Phspok.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: De Martini on March 06, 2012, 04:01:31 PM +0000
This was my first online race in months, i enjoyed every single moment on track. Unfortunately, i couldn't finish the race. As Jose said, i had a nice ride with him during some laps, then, my usual dramatic event turned up, i couldn't avoid a car which had spun in the middle of the line  :-[ 
After that, box service was required in order to fix suspension, as the car was behaving strangely. In addition, i had some overheating probs with rear left tyre, i guess, as phspok said, that the setup needed some tweaks. My race finished when i hit the wall losing front left wheel  :'(

Anyway, i'm glad some racers liked my setup, it's a pleasure to share with you guys  :thumbup1:

Cheers! 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 06, 2012, 05:24:02 PM +0000
;) Perhaps he might give me his set up then!!!  ;D

I believe you already have it, I used my Long Beach setup with a few changes made to it during Qualifying. I don't mind sharing my setups at all, I just don't have the habit of uploading them every time, so feel free to ask in GTL chat. The thing is I keep changing the setup until the very last moment before the race, so whatever I share is most likely not going to be a final version.

As for my race, it was a very closely fought battle with Berger early on. I was very happy with my Q lap, but as usual lost the lead right at the start and then had to do catch up. It was very difficult to make pass, particularly with Berger's Porsche seemingly going slightly quicker in acceleration and down the straights. I could close up on him in some corners though and when I finally managed to dive in, it didn't quite work out and I spun him around. I waited for him to recover because it felt wrong to take advantage of the situation and so we continued our battle for a few more laps.

Eventually I managed to sneak in and grab the lead, and from there on it was about being as consistent as possible. I had one major off near the end of the race, but apart from that it was a fairly smooth and consistent run. It's a shame that just when I have become really comfortable with the Porsche I would have to switch to another car, but that way it should make the season quite interesting from now on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: Navin R Johnson on March 07, 2012, 03:42:27 AM +0000
 I got another good jump at the start but knowing my speed was nowhere near Hristo or Berger I didn't fight too much. After that I saw Matt was able to get to 4th place and I knew from his qualy time it was on :)!! I was lucky to have a few seconds in hand so I was at least able to run my line and not be pressured to defend. It was great fun being chased the whole way by Matt. I could see I got lucky break or two and that was truly the difference in the race because if it was a 1 lap longer Matt would of got me. Just goes to show to never give up and to try and be consistent lap after lap as in the end it might just be the difference. I wasn't really comfortable with the track or the car so after being pushed like that I needed another bath :laugh:. But that is what it's all about ;D Cheers to all the participants with a special thanks to Jose and Dario for racing here. I sure hope to see you mates on track very soon :thumbup1: Also congrats to Hristo and Berger for their respective finishes.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Jarama - Mar 5
Post by: BillThomas on March 07, 2012, 12:24:20 PM +0000
Agree with most of what Tony wrote.  I couldn't find the right gear for Beemer, didn't want to lose opportunity to race on a more open track later.  As for the rest I tried them all and couldn't get in a timed lap for any of the other cars.  So quit and spent my evening on something much more enjoyable.