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Title: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2011, 08:14:44 AM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Track: Monaco 1979 v1.2 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_monaco79)

Cars allowed: BMW 2002tii Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_bmw2002tii), Porsche 911 RSR 3.0, Ford Escort RS 2000, Boss 302 Ford Mustang Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_boss302mustang)

This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (http://www.humyo.com/9240347/SimRacing.org.uk/UKGTL/Cars/SRou_UKGTL_Skins_1.8.0.0.exe) and the Season 10 Skin Pack (http://www.gamefront.com/files/16376667/SRou_GTL_UKGTL10GGT_1.10.0.0.exe)which will need to be installed prior to racing.

Drivers are reminded that the maximum number of drives in any car is four. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdEplNWdDYkxNZy1rZ0J5dHNtVHlUX3c)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk GTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=330;theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: BillThomas on April 17, 2012, 07:58:35 PM +0100
Norton won't let me download this track from Humyo tells me that there is a threat "WS.Reputation.1" present.  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Phil Gilliland on April 17, 2012, 08:12:57 PM +0100
There is no threat in that file.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 17, 2012, 08:38:13 PM +0100
Norton won't let me download this track from Humyo tells me that there is a threat "WS.Reputation.1" present.  ???

Bill, It's the same file that we have used for years. You probably already have it.

I have asked for a new link to be provided.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: BillThomas on April 18, 2012, 03:32:23 PM +0100
Thanks Tony, I don't appear to have raced here in this format since my "XP" days.  Have copied from that archive but had lunch call before could check it out.

Will do so tonight before more Mann Falcon "fun"!!!!  8) 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 18, 2012, 07:32:15 PM +0100
New download link provided


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: BillThomas on April 19, 2012, 12:30:27 PM +0100
New download link provided

Norton is being a pain at moment can't get this one either - think might be able to make the link a known safe site.  All is not lost for Monday as the track from XP archive is OK - Beemer is a hand full around here.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: BillThomas on April 19, 2012, 12:43:29 PM +0100
New download link provided

Norton is being a pain at moment can't get this one either - think might be able to make the link a known safe site.  All is not lost for Monday as the track from XP archive is OK - Beemer is a hand full around here.

Sorted, not the way I thought but switched off some additional subsets of the main Web safe/off control.  Track down loaded. :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Ross Hawkey on April 21, 2012, 02:04:03 PM +0100
Sorry if I'm asking too early, but I don't see a practice server for this event in the GTL lobby (I'm seeing the Altbierbude ones, and a few more).

Not sure if I'm jumping the gun and it's not up yet, or if I need to tweak my lobby settings.

Great thx, I see i there now


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 21, 2012, 05:53:35 PM +0100
Sorry if I'm asking too early, but I don't see a practice server for this event in the GTL lobby (I'm seeing the Altbierbude ones, and a few more).

Not sure if I'm jumping the gun and it's not up yet, or if I need to tweak my lobby settings.

Sorry Ross, it wasn't running, don't know why not? Anyway I have just restarted it so please try again.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: SpecialKS on April 22, 2012, 07:01:52 PM +0100
Think I'll take the RSR. Something about 1.50 so far

Escort is absolutely undriveable for me - I fear I have to leave this series after 12 of 16 events
because I'm simply unable to drive the Escort ??? ;D ::)
Does anybody maybe have driveable setups for the Excort - not especially for Monaco but in general?
Any help would be highly appreciated




Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 22, 2012, 07:08:50 PM +0100
Think I'll take the RSR. Something about 1.50 so far

Escort is absolutely undriveable for me - I fear I have to leave this series after 12 of 16 events
because I'm simply unable to drive the Escort ??? ;D ::)
Does anybody maybe have driveable setups for the Excort - not especially for Monaco but in general?
Any help would be highly appreciated




In online folder and called Escort RS by WT


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: SpecialKS on April 23, 2012, 07:30:17 PM +0100
Thanks Tony  :)

edit : sorry - cannot find it. Are there different online folders?

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Didn't expect that my race would end that soon  ???

Ok - fourth race in five days and fourth outage...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Ross Hawkey on April 23, 2012, 09:04:19 PM +0100
A shame that was short lived, after it looked like the start of the lap had gone really clean, so well done to everyone in the first few turns at least.

Out of the fast chicane, I had to slow for a car ahead who had hit the wall and was moving across the track in my path, then I/we got hit form behind, and I ended up in the harbour :-( , If I could have dragged myself out of the water, I would have.

I hate having DNF's, and struggle to understand how there's so much of a 'hurry' (though I know we're racing  :-) ) on lap 1, when there's a long race ahead. 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 23, 2012, 09:41:09 PM +0100
Thanks Tony  :)

edit : sorry - cannot find it. Are there different online folders?

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Didn't expect that my race would end that soon  ???

Ok - fourth race in five days and fourth outage...

Ask Pelle for the online folder thing. It's posted on here somewhere but I can't find it.

EDIT: try this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10597.0


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: phspok on April 23, 2012, 09:47:28 PM +0100
What a turn out. is always some bump and shove at Monaco, I fluffed the start by selecting 2nd, then tangled with Tibs as he ws , I think , slowing
for someone in front, and i lifted but tagged him, waited when I could get out of the way , then he got stuck somewhere and i went off
to see who I could catch. had some good laps trading errors with K Dummer, I forgot where I was once and went over the barrier onto the
roulette tables, got back on and caught passed got caught etc.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 23, 2012, 09:57:35 PM +0100
Replay and Results now posted.

Another fantastic turnout, thanks guy's


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Geoff65 on April 23, 2012, 10:43:14 PM +0100
Fun race, even though Monaco is not on my fave track list. Driving the little Escort made it great. Apologies to senyorlobo for tagging you a couple of times, sometimes had trouble stopping the wee beastie. Traded places with senyorlobo a couple of times and got past him into 6th at one time after he made a little faux pas. Then the tyres cried enough and I had a spin at the top of the hill, giving the place back again. He skipped clear then, and discretion better than valour took over and I drove my ailing Ford to the finish in 7th. Happy overall with that because most ahead of me were 2+ seconds a lap quicker.....there would be no making any gains on those chaps. Thanks Tony for the server and admin, thanks to all competitors and drivers we lapped during our tussle, for moving over. Much appreciated. Finally Grats to Navin and the other rocket pilots on the dais. A class of your own today.
Geoff.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: senyorlobo on April 24, 2012, 07:37:19 AM +0100
Fun race, even though Monaco is not on my fave track list. Driving the little Escort made it great. Apologies to senyorlobo for tagging you a couple of times, sometimes had trouble stopping the wee beastie. Traded places with senyorlobo a couple of times and got past him into 6th at one time after he made a little faux pas.

No problem Geoff65. It was fun to fight with you in the race. :thumbup1:

See you on the track!

And grats againt to Navin.

Jose (senyorlobo)



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: BillThomas on April 24, 2012, 10:24:11 AM +0100
Another mixed night, magic lap, 6 secs quicker than previous PB, in qualifying.  Made quiet start avoided the first lap problems but put Eifelblitz out when I found him spun around blind corner.  Had a few good laps put in a sub 2 min lap in race then had a big bounce off the rails and collected a puncture.  Crept around track and pitted - had the "proper job" repair and joined 2 laps down.  After a few more laps had a boot up the tail, lifting at entrance to Chicane, and was knocked into the Armco - handling a bit odd after that.  Spun, just around that real sharp right hander after start/finish, so quit as it was too dangerous to try and recover from there.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Geoffers on April 24, 2012, 10:45:36 AM +0100
 Spun, just around that real sharp right hander after start/finish, so quit as it was too dangerous to try and recover from there.

Same with me, clipped barrier there on lap 6 & the car rolled & ended upside down in the middle of the track, so quit so as not to cause problems to any approaching cars.

Made the mistake of not testing with full fuel. I found the BMW was really tail-happy on turn-in with the extra fuel & very tricky to drive in the early laps. Also found the steering lock to be really odd on the BMW, never noticed it before but even with lock set to maximum I was turning the wheel much further than the one on screen was turning, almost twice as much. Seems OK on other cars, anyone else notice that?  

Congrats to Navin, Mark & Berger  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: SpecialKS on April 24, 2012, 11:29:02 AM +0100
Another mixed night, magic lap, 6 secs quicker than previous PB, in qualifying.  Made quiet start avoided the first lap problems but put Eifelblitz out when I found him spun around blind corner.  Had a few good laps put in a sub 2 min lap in race then had a big bounce off the rails and collected a puncture.  Crept around track and pitted - had the "proper job" repair and joined 2 laps down.  After a few more laps had a boot up the tail, lifting at entrance to Chicane, and was knocked into the Armco - handling a bit odd after that.  Spun, just around that real sharp right hander after start/finish, so quit as it was too dangerous to try and recover from there.

Don't worry, Bill. You didn't put me out. I just hadn't realized yet in that particular moment that I was already at 0%, still wondering why there was no engine anymore. Otherwise I had left the game one or two seconds earlier  ::). Glad that you didn't receive substantial damage
and could go on racing  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: M Cinderby on April 24, 2012, 11:42:25 AM +0100
 Spun, just around that real sharp right hander after start/finish, so quit as it was too dangerous to try and recover from there.

Same with me, clipped barrier there on lap 6 & the car rolled & ended upside down in the middle of the track, so quit so as not to cause problems to any approaching cars.

Made the mistake of not testing with full fuel. I found the BMW was really tail-happy on turn-in with the extra fuel & very tricky to drive in the early laps. Also found the steering lock to be really odd on the BMW, never noticed it before but even with lock set to maximum I was turning the wheel much further than the one on screen was turning, almost twice as much. Seems OK on other cars, anyone else notice that?  

Congrats to Navin, Mark & Berger  :clap:
Hi Geoffers....Very sorry about bumping you on Lap 2. I broke your tail light!  :(

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/BumpingGeoffersL2.jpg)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Geoffers1L2.jpg)

Your roll at T1....I wondered where you went!  :-\

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/GeoffersRoll.jpg)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/GeoffersRoll2.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: M Cinderby on April 24, 2012, 12:13:19 PM +0100
 :)  A great race for me with a fantastic turn out by all.  :)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/MonacoStart.jpg)

I thought I had quail in the bag with a 1.43 which was a fatal mistake as Geoffers and Navin proved....Well done guys.

Started in P3 and beaten into T1 by Berger.  :o Then had to do a banzai into the first hairpin down the inside to get past him.  :)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/MonteCarloGrandHotelL2.jpg)

I was then behind Geoffers and could see Navin starting to ease away so pushed geoffers hard on lap 2 unfortunately making contact into the Monte Carlo Grand Hotel Hairpin and breaking Geoffers tail light....Sorry mate.

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/BumpingGeoffersL2.jpg)

  :-[ I then backed off a bit and a few laps later Geoffers went wide proving things come to those whom wait.

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/GeoffersWideL4.jpg)

My car was set up on a full tank of fuel (my quali time was on a full tank  ;D ) So I new I had to push like hell to have any chance of beating Navin.

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Navin2.jpg)

I managed to close the gap a little but by now Navin was in his grove and by two thirds distance my tyres started to protest against the constant pushing and drifting!  ::) :o ;D ;D

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/ChasingNavin1.jpg)

I decided with a nice 20 sec plus margin to Burger to back off and settle for P2.  ;D ;D

I'm not a great fan of street circuits but really love Monaco.....Can we get the Minis here some time Tony?  ;D

Congrats to everyone whom turned up and raced and for all the back markers I passed being very switched on with gentlemenly conduct...Many thanks.  :) :)







Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Geoffers on April 24, 2012, 12:41:11 PM +0100

I was then behind Geoffers and could see Navin starting to ease away so pushed geoffers hard on lap 2 unfortunately making contact into the Monte Carlo Grand Hotel Hairpin and breaking Geoffers tail light....Sorry mate.

No worries Mark, I'll send you a bill for the new one.  ;D

You were much faster than me there, I couldn't brake anywhere near as late as you, the car would just plough straight on. Car was good on fast corners but just would not turn in the slow ones.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 24, 2012, 01:00:24 PM +0100
@ Mark.........hmm Mini's at Monaco eh?

Leave it with me  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: De Martini on April 24, 2012, 03:14:07 PM +0100
Great race for me  :)   but first things first, apologies to Ade, at first lap we tried to pass across the fast chicane at the same time and that caused his crash into the barrier and post-chain reaction crash just before Tabac. I heard his engine reving down and thought he was letting me pass first, but i was wrong  :(

Thanks to everyone who i lapped for making easy the maneuver  :thumbup1:  again apologies to phspok for hold his race up re-lapping him a few times because of my spins in front of him  :(  After several barrier hits my car was nearly undriveable in some sections.

Thanks for hosting the server and grats to everyone who appeared!  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Ross Hawkey on April 24, 2012, 06:07:37 PM +0100
apologies to Ade, at first lap we tried to pass across the fast chicane at the same time and that caused his crash into the barrier and post-chain reaction crash just before Tabac. I heard his engine reving down and thought he was letting me pass first, but i was wrong  :(
I was watching it all unfold approaching the chicane, and was guessing it'd end in trouble. I lifted to allow myself a chance to avoid Ade, but sadly, as I was about to pass the stricken Porsche, a car from behind arrived at speed and hefty contact occurred.

It was a shame, but also maybe a bit lucky for the rest of the field, that I ended up in the harbour, as it meant that when the 'Pack' arrived, it was to an empty piece of track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 24, 2012, 07:05:06 PM +0100
After one of my trademark blistering starts I was well in the mix approaching the first turn. Thought I'd escaped any contact but I did get a small tap on the rear. No real harm done though and off I went in search of fame and glory. This optimism lasted until Mirabeau when I was hit again and this time I span and had to wait for all of Monaco and his wife and his dog to file past. Now in last place I set off to seek fame and fortune once more but alas all I found was Armco and crashing cars.

It seemed that I was always well placed to catch the aftermath of someone Else's collision/mistake and ended up driving into them. Still I had loads of fun and actually became quite quick with the Escort and found it a lot of fun to drive at this circuit.

Awesome turnout chaps. Keep on coming, we'll always be here.

Mark, love that grid shot


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: M Cinderby on April 24, 2012, 08:47:11 PM +0100
apologies to Ade, at first lap we tried to pass across the fast chicane at the same time and that caused his crash into the barrier and post-chain reaction crash just before Tabac. I heard his engine reving down and thought he was letting me pass first, but i was wrong  :(
I was watching it all unfold approaching the chicane, and was guessing it'd end in trouble. I lifted to allow myself a chance to avoid Ade, but sadly, as I was about to pass the stricken Porsche, a car from behind arrived at speed and hefty contact occurred.

It was a shame, but also maybe a bit lucky for the rest of the field, that I ended up in the harbour, as it meant that when the 'Pack' arrived, it was to an empty piece of track.
  :o This track as in real life racing is pretty much impossible to pass on. You have to wait for the other guy to make a mistake. The chicane is very bumpy and I would not entertain trying to pass there.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Navin R Johnson on April 25, 2012, 05:52:59 AM +0100
 I was happy enough in qualy with 5 minutes left to be in 2nd on the grid when Mark threw out a friendly challenge ;). I really didn't think I'd be able to go much quicker but with limited track time I thought I'd give her a shot. I noticed on my last out lap I had dropped to 4th on the grid so I threw a banzai lap and managed to get pole ;D. I got a perfect launch at the start and managed to get a quick gap early which was very fortunate as I run bit of a weird line that works for me but can be a bit difficult to run if you have to defend as well. After Mark and Geoffers settled their battle Mark was right around 5 seconds back and did get close at around 3.5 second back. I think I must of gotten some breaks with traffic as I was able to hold Mark off even with his better race pace. Like so many have said I don't usually like street tracks but Monaco is an exception ;D. Great to see so many show up and even better to have Dario and Jose show up again. Hope you guys are regulars from now on ;) Grats to Mark 2nd place and for keeping me honest. Grats as well to Berger for his respective pody. Most of all thanks to Tony for all you do 8).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: SpecialKS on April 25, 2012, 08:41:32 PM +0100
Thanks Tony  :)

edit : sorry - cannot find it. Are there different online folders?

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Didn't expect that my race would end that soon  ???

Ok - fourth race in five days and fourth outage...

Ask Pelle for the online folder thing. It's posted on here somewhere but I can't find it.

EDIT: try this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10597.0


Thank you very much - that's exactly the one I missed. A lot more setups as before  :) . That may help  8)

Does a thing like this also exist for GTR2?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 25, 2012, 09:23:20 PM +0100
Thanks Tony  :)

edit : sorry - cannot find it. Are there different online folders?

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Didn't expect that my race would end that soon  ???

Ok - fourth race in five days and fourth outage...

Ask Pelle for the online folder thing. It's posted on here somewhere but I can't find it.

EDIT: try this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10597.0


Thank you very much - that's exactly the one I missed. A lot more setups as before  :) . That may help  8)

Does a thing like this also exist for GTR2?

Dunno Karl, but I'll put up a post in the GTR paddock and see if we get a reply


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 25, 2012, 11:53:35 PM +0100
Thanks Tony  :)

edit : sorry - cannot find it. Are there different online folders?

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Didn't expect that my race would end that soon  ???

Ok - fourth race in five days and fourth outage...

Ask Pelle for the online folder thing. It's posted on here somewhere but I can't find it.

EDIT: try this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10597.0


Thank you very much - that's exactly the one I missed. A lot more setups as before  :) . That may help  8)

Does a thing like this also exist for GTR2?

Ade found this from a while ago https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8214

EDIT: Looks like it's something stored on Humyo. I couldn't access it  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: Ade on April 26, 2012, 12:23:11 AM +0100
Here you go
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21610939/LOCAL_IP_FTP.rar


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 GT Cup '76 - Monaco (1979) - Apr 23
Post by: SpecialKS on April 26, 2012, 09:09:55 PM +0100
Here you go
http://www.gamefront.com/files/21610939/LOCAL_IP_FTP.rar


thxs