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Title: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2011, 01:10:22 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (20 laps)

Track: 1970 Daytona Road course Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_daytona70)

Cars allowed: Shelby Cobra Pack Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_cobraX4), Shelby Cobra 289/427.

This race will use the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Car restrictions: None

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: ROLLING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk SCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=331;theme=5)

Special Notes: This race is flag started. However the flagman is out of sync with the in-game countdown and you could get a stop/go for a jumped start if you go with the flag. I would strongly suggest that the in-game countdown is switched on for this race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Kenn on January 02, 2012, 12:19:30 PM +0000
Hi Guy's

I would like to join this seasons races but appear to no longer be able to connect to the server! Can anyone advise why this might be as I have previously not had a problem.

Have some settings been changed during the past year?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.

Ken

 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 02, 2012, 01:38:39 PM +0000
Hi Guy's

I would like to join this seasons races but appear to no longer be able to connect to the server! Can anyone advise why this might be as I have previously not had a problem.

Have some settings been changed during the past year?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.

Ken

 

Hi Ken and welcome. You probably have an out of date Lobby file so try this. In your main GTL folder look for this file

LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT

Double click this file to open it and the content should read thus

94.23.231.41

If it doesn't then change it and save the file.

Get back to us if this doesn't fix things for you.

BTW there is a race tonight if your up for it. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10165.msg185178#msg185178

Cheers

WT


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Kenn on January 03, 2012, 07:26:10 PM +0000
Many thanks,

Now connecting to the server so will look out for simracing.uk.org and hopefully join the series this season along with Jack and Alex my sons as Team Dummer!

Are these races now going to be every other Thursday?

Hope to see you on track

Cheers

Ken


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 03, 2012, 07:30:29 PM +0000
Many thanks,

Now connecting to the server so will look out for simracing.uk.org and hopefully join the series this season along with Jack and Alex my sons as Team Dummer!

Are these races now going to be every other Thursday?

Hope to see you on track

Cheers

Ken


Well I'm glad we sorted that lobby problem for you Ken. But please note GTL events are now every MONDAY night, it's P&G every THURSDAY night for the foreseeable.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Kenn on January 04, 2012, 05:49:19 PM +0000
Ok, Monday's should be good!

Thanks again

Ken


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 04, 2012, 06:18:01 PM +0000
Excellent!

Nearer the time perhaps you should just check that you can join the server and do a couple of online laps, OK?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 10, 2012, 06:52:10 PM +0000
Just tried some spotter laps. OMG these things are basic. It's a big powerfull engine on 4 wheels. Brakes and steering are optional extra's.

Brake smoothly and well earlier than usual. Get around the bend then apply the power very slowly indeed. Too much and the rear want's to be in front.

Mind you, I'm sure we will be treated to some big drifting driving antics from those  :alien:'s

Don't get me wrong. These are great cars. But just don't expect to drive them like you would the Tina or Alfa.

These bad boys demand respect and if you don't provide it you will be seeing an awful lot of barriers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 10, 2012, 08:39:00 PM +0000
That Shelby Cobra pack is really great.

One silly question: all cars are allowed (260, 289, 289FIA and 427)?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 10, 2012, 11:11:00 PM +0000
That Shelby Cobra pack is really great.

One silly question: all cars are allowed (260, 289, 289FIA and 427)?

Yes, for this first race you can choose any of them.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Geoffers on January 14, 2012, 08:27:35 PM +0000
I would advise everyone to try a practice start here. There seems to be little grip on the startline banking & it seems to be very easy to lose the rear when pulling away with more than a whiff of throttle. In fact I would go so far as to suggest neutralising the first lap & have a rolling start.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Phil Gilliland on January 14, 2012, 08:56:30 PM +0000
In fact I would go so far as to suggest neutralising the first lap & have a rolling start.

I'd second that, otherwise I foresee a startline disaster. Have done about half a dozen practice starts here, most of them resulting in a spin. Anything more than the gentlest of touches on the throttle is too much.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2012, 01:04:17 PM +0000
Thanks for the input Gent's.

I must admit I had not tried practising start's but will do some now and post back here.

I take it everyone knows the procedure for rolling starts?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 15, 2012, 01:42:51 PM +0000
Never done one here. Do you do a single warm up lap with the leading car judging the speed and distance between the cars, and then floor it out of the last corner? Or does GTL has something built in to control the rolling start?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2012, 03:36:47 PM +0000
Never done one here. Do you do a single warm up lap with the leading car judging the speed and distance between the cars, and then floor it out of the last corner? Or does GTL has something built in to control the rolling start?

Starting Procedure - Rolling Starts without a pace car
Races will be started from a stationary grid.
The polesitting driver will be responsible for leading the field around for a formation lap.
The polesitter shall wait until the starting lights turn green before moving off. They should not go immediately after the grid formation countdown finishes, or the simulation will give them a stop and go penalty.
The other drivers will move off only when the driver who qualified ahead of them moves off.
Formation laps shall be driven in single file. The leader shall maintain a moderate pace which allows all cars, including those in slower classes, to warm their tyres and brakes without struggling to stay in touch with the car in front.
The leader should aim for a target speed on the straights of around:
GTL: 50mph (80km/h)
No driver shall use excessive acceleration or braking during the formation lap.
Drivers are encouraged to weave left and right to warm their tyres, and to warm their brakes by dragging them whilst under power.
During the formation lap, each driver is responsible for keeping a safe distance from the driver in front.
Drivers should endeavour to avoid getting too far behind or to close to the driver in front.
Approximately 20 seconds before crossing the start line the leader shall slow to pit speed and engage their pit lane speed limiter.
Each following driver shall close up directly behind the driver in front and also engage their limiter.
20 seconds is the recommended minimum time that the leader shall have their limiter engaged before the start line. Where there is any doubt as to the correct place to begin the final start formation, a longer delay is preferred to a shorter one.
Drivers should not attempt to warm their tyres aggressively after engaging their limiter.
The leader shall not disengage their limiter until they cross the start line.
Each following driver should only disengage their limiter when the driver directly ahead does.
If a driver is unable to disengage their limiter, they should pull over so that the following drivers can begin the race.
A car reaching the start/finish line may disengage its limiter even if the car ahead has not.
Any driver who because of a technical failure stops, or who leaves the track (either by mistake or because of a failure), is responsible for rejoining the formation lap safely.
This may mean waiting until the entire field has passed and rejoining in last place.
The driver shall not attempt to regain their original starting position.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2012, 03:44:02 PM +0000
Just finished testing the start and it would seem that the 320/427kW cars have a tendency to spin if the power is applied too vigorously, whereas the 240/261 cars don't.

Since any car can be chosen for this event I will change to a rolling start for this race.

Future races will be tested and a judgement made regarding their start format.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2012, 03:44:51 PM +0000
This race is flag started. However the flagman is out of sync with the in-game countdown and you could get a stop/go for a jumped start if you go with the flag. I would strongly suggest that the in-game countdown is switched on for this race.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 15, 2012, 03:51:01 PM +0000
Thanks, I will practice the use of pitlane speed limiter to make sure all goes fine. As for judging those 20 seconds prior to the s/f line, wouldn't it be better to call a certain point/corner of the track where it should be done? That way everyone would know in advance where to expect the drivers in front of him to turn on their limiters.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2012, 04:16:10 PM +0000
Thanks, I will practice the use of pitlane speed limiter to make sure all goes fine. As for judging those 20 seconds prior to the s/f line, wouldn't it be better to call a certain point/corner of the track where it should be done? That way everyone would know in advance where to expect the drivers in front of him to turn on their limiters.

Yeah possibly. But if your following you should be aware that it is going to happen and drive accordingly. Maybe the leader could turn his lights on then apply the limiter?

BTW the limiter is set to 150kph (90mph) at this circuit.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 15, 2012, 05:08:39 PM +0000
Ouch, that's rather fast, so if we're going to warm up at 80 km/h and then accelerate to speed limiter of 150 km/h it would be rather weird.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2012, 10:09:04 PM +0000
Ouch, that's rather fast, so if we're going to warm up at 80 km/h and then accelerate to speed limiter of 150 km/h it would be rather weird.

Forget the 80km/h rule. This track is exceptional in that it is mostly oval.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 16, 2012, 01:55:23 PM +0000
 :) Any one got any decent lap times? The 427 Comp is a beast and happily sits at home on the limiter for most of the lap!!!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 16, 2012, 01:57:22 PM +0000
:) Any one got any decent lap times? The 427 Comp is a beast and happily sits at home on the limiter for most of the lap!!!  ;D

  ;) I'm getting sub 205's. I wonder what Geoffes is getting?  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Geoffers on January 16, 2012, 02:01:30 PM +0000
  ;) I'm getting sub 205's. I wonder what Geoffes is getting?  8)

Hehehehehe, don't tell em Mutley! ;D

Oh OK then! I'm into the 2.01s, so Hristo should be under 2mins. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hotkeys on January 16, 2012, 05:09:45 PM +0000
Never tried the Cobras in GTL ...... how do you make these wild things-cars  more steady ?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQec_llvUsiLhgOKePvjUNMpa7oahwGzEavMKValHH1qQxqK5eWig)


Any setup help will be appricated

Stig


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 16, 2012, 05:12:42 PM +0000
  ;) I'm getting sub 205's. I wonder what Geoffes is getting?  8)

Hehehehehe, don't tell em Mutley! ;D

Oh OK then! I'm into the 2.01s, so Hristo should be under 2mins. ::)
::) Thats me buggered!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 16, 2012, 06:53:35 PM +0000
Never tried the Cobras in GTL ...... how do you make these wild things-cars  more steady ?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQec_llvUsiLhgOKePvjUNMpa7oahwGzEavMKValHH1qQxqK5eWig)


Any setup help will be appricated

Stig

Stiffen the front, soften the rear and brake and steer like there's an egg on the pedals. The lower powered cars don't fight you so much.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hotkeys on January 16, 2012, 08:53:21 PM +0000
On order to have a rolling start work, EVERYBODY needs to read the rules. :censored:  :gun_bandana:

No more races using rolling start for me.

Stig



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 16, 2012, 09:35:22 PM +0000
On order to have a rolling start work, EVERYBODY needs to read the rules. :censored:  :gun_bandana:

No more races using rolling start for me.

Stig



Please reconsider. I'm sure the offenders won't want to look that silly again.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 16, 2012, 09:54:00 PM +0000
Replay and results now posted.

Tellings off tomorrow  :hammer:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Pelle_B on January 17, 2012, 12:00:29 AM +0000
Grats Hristo, NRJ & Geoffers  :thumbup1:

WarmUp:
A little lucky Hristo would share his setup, big thanks. Got changed little toe & setup was perfect for me. Drove the entire WarmUp & Qual with race setup (22 laps fuel).
Great surprise I got time under 2 minutes with full tank, but yes, I got an even better time...with cheating. Unfortunately I could not find the spot again to qual. I went out on the grass, had trouble finding the track again, but hey...ready for a new trial & oops, when I drive over the line for the new lap, pops my cheat time up.  :laugh:

Qual:
Perfect with race fuel.

Race:
I do feel sorry for anyone that they get ruined race already on WarmUp lap...but it is entertaining for replay  :D
My starting place as number 3 was tricky, I would get hold of Hristo, but without running NRJ of the track & is in the middle of a Big Mac between NRJ & Mark. Brakes too early to T2 & Mark can sneak past...here began a wild close race as NASCAR at its best.  ;D Mark is a little slow out of the turns, but I lose on the Oval & must be in slipstreem. Sry, for the start of the oval...I'm quick on the accelerator again, but come too far up & a little push, damn...totally my fault.  :'(
We lose both a place to Geoffers & I'm trying everything, that we must come up again & catch up the lost...but as the saying: Misfortunes never come singly. On the oval, I suddenly get black screen for 5 seconds  :o When I get picture back...where is Mark? ...or, I dropped by the server? XD does not work...where I am  ;D After a few laps, XD is back & Mark are in front of me. I feared had caused a crash under black screen. Thank you for waiting, so I got my fourth place back.  :whistling: ...& Thanks for an exciting race  :sweatdrop:

Thanks to all  :thumbup2:... & a lot of good TEAM GTLDK points ...& Sry NRJ, I ​​never got up & help  :)

GTLDK Info: Whole GTLDK is down (black screen?) & emails. I don't know what is wrong. Unfortunately, it looks very bleak right now & I have no info when it's up and running again, hehe...all Servage is down.  8)

Edit:1185 on server replay...I get caught in 5 Sec in a hole in the middle of the track  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 17, 2012, 06:48:25 AM +0000
GTLDK Info: Whole GTLDK is down (black screen?) & emails. I don't know what is wrong. Unfortunately, it looks very bleak right now & I have no info when it's up and running again, hehe...all Servage is down.  8)

GTLDK works fine for me  ??? :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: phspok on January 17, 2012, 07:22:46 AM +0000
Messy event for me
I got shoved onto the grass while trying to maintain my correct 7th position on the pace lap, Stig got shoved over
the fence up the banking while also trying to maintain pace lap position, Phil then gets rear ended off onto the
grass on Lap 2. I got wobbly a few laps later and bent the suspension on an armco edge, car was undrivable
before when it was new, now was too much masochism so left.  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 17, 2012, 12:54:20 PM +0000
A fine turnout for the first all Cobra race ever at Srouk. And with an unrestricted choice it's not suprising that most drivers chose the raw power of the 427. A tricky beast to drive however as many demonstrated with various trips across grass etc. Actually by the end of the evening I felt a lot more comfortable with the beast and could have gone on a lot longer.
Congrats to Hristo for a masterclass in Cobra taming.

Next time the choice will be restricted but the less powerfull Cobra's are more passive to drive.

It beggars belief that after all the words posted in this thread and the revised race announcement some drivers still apparently failed to realise that the start would be "rolling" and not "standing".

I haven't had the opportunity to watch the replay but I think we all know who the guilty party's are.

I will let them off with a warning this time, but please folk's even if you read nothing else, make sure you look at the race announcement before you turn up on line. It will always have the most up to date information/warnings etc etc.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Pelle_B on January 17, 2012, 01:07:49 PM +0000
Yes KS, GTLDK is up & run again  :sweatdrop:

Messy event for me
I got shoved onto the grass while trying to maintain my correct 7th position on the pace lap, Stig got shoved over
the fence up the banking while also trying to maintain pace lap position, Phil then gets rear ended off onto the
grass on Lap 2. I got wobbly a few laps later and bent the suspension on an armco edge, car was undrivable
before when it was new, now was too much masochism so left.  :(


Quote
Any driver who because of a technical failure stops, or who leaves the track (either by mistake or because of a failure), is responsible for rejoining the formation lap safely.
This may mean waiting until the entire field has passed and rejoining in last place.

I had really looked forward to this rolling start...but it was far from what I expected.  ???
NASACR Daytona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq4m0I-kT-o)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Geoffers on January 17, 2012, 02:34:11 PM +0000
Quite challenging but also good fun muscling these beasts around Daytona, really enjoyed it.

Qualified 5th, but left too much of a gap on the pace lap & was already a couple of seconds down on Pelle & Mark at the start. This proved rather fortunate as they tangled going onto the banking on lap 3  :o (or lap 2 of the actual race!) & I was far enough back to be able to take avoiding action.

Had about a 4s gap ahead to Navin & 5s behind to Mark & Pelle, this stayed the same for several laps until both Mark & Pelle must have made mistakes & the gap behind went up to 12s. This allowed me to concentrate on Navin ahead, but I didn't want to push too hard & make a mistake so couldn't bring the gap down. Only in the last 3-4 laps did I manage to knock about a second off, but Navin was probably easing off a bit by then.  ;)

Congrats to Hristo & Navin.  :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: BillThomas on January 17, 2012, 04:05:09 PM +0000
Couldn't find a reliable and consistent setup.  Sometimes car braked in straight line, others it would unpredictably flip left or right and spin. I just couldn't control it, so I quit.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 17, 2012, 05:43:37 PM +0000
Grats Hristo, NRJ & Geoffers  :thumbup1:

WarmUp:
A little lucky Hristo would share his setup, big thanks. Got changed little toe & setup was perfect for me. Drove the entire WarmUp & Qual with race setup (22 laps fuel).
Great surprise I got time under 2 minutes with full tank, but yes, I got an even better time...with cheating. Unfortunately I could not find the spot again to qual. I went out on the grass, had trouble finding the track again, but hey...ready for a new trial & oops, when I drive over the line for the new lap, pops my cheat time up.  :laugh:

Qual:
Perfect with race fuel.

Race:
I do feel sorry for anyone that they get ruined race already on WarmUp lap...but it is entertaining for replay  :D
My starting place as number 3 was tricky, I would get hold of Hristo, but without running NRJ of the track & is in the middle of a Big Mac between NRJ & Mark. Brakes too early to T2 & Mark can sneak past...here began a wild close race as NASCAR at its best.  ;D Mark is a little slow out of the turns, but I lose on the Oval & must be in slipstream. Sry, for the start of the oval...I'm quick on the accelerator again, but come too far up & a little push, damn...totally my fault.  :'(
We lose both a place to Geoffers & I'm trying everything, that we must come up again & catch up the lost...but as the saying: Misfortunes never come singly. On the oval, I suddenly get black screen for 5 seconds  :o When I get picture back...where is Mark? ...or, I dropped by the server? XD does not work...where I am  ;D After a few laps, XD is back & Mark are in front of me. I feared had caused a crash under black screen. Thank you for waiting, so I got my fourth place back.  :whistling: ...& Thanks for an exciting race  :sweatdrop:

Thanks to all  :thumbup2:... & a lot of good TEAM GTLDK points ...& Sry NRJ, I ​​never got up & help  :)

GTLDK Info: Whole GTLDK is down (black screen?) & emails. I don't know what is wrong. Unfortunately, it looks very bleak right now & I have no info when it's up and running again, hehe...all Servage is down.  8)

Edit:1185 on server replay...I get caught in 5 Sec in a hole in the middle of the track  ???
I have suffered the black screen problem before....Just before my graphics card expired. Either that or you have your PC set to power saving mode and it goes to sleep mid race.....Its worth a look. Again excellent close battle Pelle top driving mate.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 17, 2012, 10:37:02 PM +0000
 :) Tough race this one. Qualified P4 on a 2.00 but miles off Hristo's P1 time. I was some what bemused by the rolling start having done this with Simjunkies on a number of occasions. They are not hard you stay in formation at low speed and then slowly build up speed approaching the start line. Having said this Simjunkies run Team Speak so everyone knows whats going on.

Looking good!!!!

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/RollingStart.jpg)

Ramaz struggles for grip.  :-\

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/RollingStart2.jpg)

Phspok & Jack come together during rolling start lap  :o

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/PJ.jpg)

Anyway I got a good start  :)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/T1.jpg)

and caught Pelle napping into T2  ;D

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/T2.jpg)

Then got nudged by Pelle on lap 2  :o

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Pellesnudge-1.jpg)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Nudge2.jpg)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Nudge3.jpg)

Much to Geoffer's delight  ;)

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Nudge4.jpg)

Then the mother of all races is on for at least 9 laps!!

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Whatsthegap.jpg)

Whats the gap Murray?

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/CloseRacing.jpg)

Is this a safe distance to follow at 150 miles per hour officer?

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Alwaystravelatasafedistanceat150mph.jpg)

Will this guy ever give up...........NO.  ;D

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/mcinderby/Willthisguyevergiveup.jpg)

Finished P5 but enjoyed every moment.......See ya next week. ;)
PS Just noticed Team Oldie have a slim lead in the champoinship.......Legzy will be pleased.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Legzy on January 18, 2012, 07:06:11 AM +0000
He is ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 18, 2012, 07:15:29 AM +0000
He is ;D

LOL

He has to make do with GTL since we frightened him out of PnG.  ::)

I notice that H has only signed for GTL so if he makes it as far as PnG we may be able to strike a deal to renew the old partnership.   ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Pelle_B on January 18, 2012, 08:33:56 AM +0000
Thanks for the great pictures  :thumbup1:... really a fun 'close' race, but too bad I did one mistake.

I have suffered the black screen problem before....Just before my graphics card expired.
Fear is my GF 285 is tired, the last month, I hear the fan run faster in games than usual  :(

Oops, forgot a link  8) Report/70Daytona (http://www.gt-legends.eu/UKGTL/Report/CobraCup/70Daytona/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 18, 2012, 08:43:37 AM +0000
Another great report Mike/Mark. Loving the pictures.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 18, 2012, 11:43:45 AM +0000
Another great report Mike/Mark. Loving the pictures.
Thanks Anthony/Tony  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 18, 2012, 03:56:18 PM +0000
He is ;D

LOL

He has to make do with GTL since we frightened him out of PnG.  ::)

I notice that H has only signed for GTL so if he makes it as far as PnG we may be able to strike a deal to renew the old partnership.   ;D

I would like to do PnG but I don't have GTR2.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Clive Loynes on January 18, 2012, 06:39:49 PM +0000
He is ;D

LOL

He has to make do with GTL since we frightened him out of PnG.  ::)

I notice that H has only signed for GTL so if he makes it as far as PnG we may be able to strike a deal to renew the old partnership.   ;D

I would like to do PnG but I don't have GTR2.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GTR-2-Get-Real-PC-DVD-rfactor-mod-/150738496061?pt=UK_VideoGames_Merchandise_RL&hash=item2318b6ea3d


Naturally your old room is just as you left it.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Navin R Johnson on January 18, 2012, 11:16:30 PM +0000
Wow this week is flying by. Thanks for all the reports and pictures  :). Great turnout as well 8). My race report will be to the point. Other than Hristo who once again was the class of the field I was lucky enough to get a clean lap in early that held up for 2nd on the grid. But with 3-4 others with lap times within a second I knew this could be a tough race. The warm up lap was well.. interesting.. From my point of view everything went just like clock work as Hristo did a great job of pacing the field at a steady rate and then even called out pit speed limiter on so others don't start running over each other. Or that was the plan.. ::) After seeing the replay it was obvious that several didn't have a clue of what was going on with the rolling start. So much so that one person even asked "are we racing?". I saw that several drivers were just trying to get back to there original starting grid positions after having collisions which were not of their own doing only to be taking out again by the drivers that still had no clue of the warm up. Hotkeys having his race ended before it even started >:(. Now as others have said "they know who they are". But do they? My fear at this point is that they did not read the starting procedures and they wont see any of these posts. More than anything I'm just disappointed that no one has come forward and even said the simplest "sorry" at this point. Come on guys... As far as my race goes it was a race for 2nd the whole way. Hristo was checking out after couple of laps and then I could see that Geoffers was fairly close and knowing he can be one of the better consistent drivers I knew I'd have to keeping my thinking cap on to hang on to second place. Like Geoffers I was just trying to be as clean and smooth as I could be and not slide the car too much. We were in lockstep for most of the race but with 3 laps to go I had someone spinout in front of me going into turn one which made me adjust my line a bit and I really had to slide the car to get back to the apex. This must of put some extra unwanted heat in my tires and it was tricky for the last couple of laps. That or the pressure was getting to me and I was cracking a bit :-\. But I was able to hang on for second place :). Congrats to Hristo for a well deserved win ;D. Also to Geoffers for a rock solid drive to third ;D

The only thing I would like to add to the rolling start procedure is the possibility of instead of everyone guessing when the leader gets to the starting line is that we run it like Goldtops F-1 series. In that series we all cued up with the speed limiter on and then did not start until we got to the starting line ourselves no matter what our starting position is. I say this because like in so many rolling starts you will always have some drivers towards the middle and even more starting in the back leave a little extra room in-between themselves and the car in front of them so they can go just before the leader gets to the line and that way they can get a running start on the cars in front of them. We used to call it ramp starting back in the day. This rolling start procedure seemed to work very well in GT's series. It allowed a bit of a gap in-between the cars so we all didn't run into each other in turn one. Plus without the ramp start possibility all of the drivers somehow figured out how to be right behind the car in front of them. Go figure huh :D Just an idea Tony for future rolling races ;) Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 19, 2012, 07:36:53 AM +0000
Simply happy about having finished this one and got some more experience with the snakes.
But it's still a long way to be able to master the Nordschleife (my hometrack) in March with it  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 19, 2012, 08:55:41 AM +0000
Just an idea Tony for future rolling races

I hate rolling starts and would not use them at all if it was up to me. Next race I'm suggesting that drivers who are taking the 427 either practise starts or start in 2nd gear (it's not as if they won't easily make up the difference when the race gets going).


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Geoffers on January 19, 2012, 09:41:45 AM +0000
Just an idea Tony for future rolling races

I hate rolling starts and would not use them at all if it was up to me. Next race I'm suggesting that drivers who are taking the 427 either practise starts or start in 2nd gear (it's not as if they won't easily make up the difference when the race gets going).

Standing starts shouldn't be a problem at other tracks, just at Daytona where the start was on the banking & it was very difficult to pull away without losing the rear. In a race against the AI, the AI cars actually slowly slide down the banking while waiting for the start!  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: M Cinderby on January 19, 2012, 04:28:18 PM +0000
Just ban the 427 Tony if some people find it hard to drive. I don't mind driving the lesser powered cars.  :) I just like close racing Pelle and I had some great fun.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 19, 2012, 05:03:00 PM +0000
I think it was an over-reaction about being hard to get the car off the line at this track. Of course it would spin if you just floor it, but with a soft rear suspension (as you should have on these cars anyway), less throttle and a bit of opposite lock, it was no problem at all. I started the pace lap as if we had an actual start, smoking off the tires, and the car didn't spin off.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: SpecialKS on January 30, 2012, 11:15:13 AM +0000
Just as a special bonus:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/6511862185/in/faves-zantafio56/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/6511862185/in/faves-zantafio56/)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Daytona (Road) - Jan 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 30, 2012, 12:41:43 PM +0000
Just as a special bonus:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/6511862185/in/faves-zantafio56/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/6511862185/in/faves-zantafio56/)

Nice photo