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Title: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 17, 2011, 01:05:21 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Track: Riverside (Nascar) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_riverside)

Cars allowed: Shelby Cobra Pack Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_cobraX4), Shelby Cobra 289/427.

Car restrictions: Rank 1 to 8 - 240kW or 261kW spec Cobra's
                         New Drivers & Rank 9 to 17 - any of the above plus 320kW or 354kW spec Cobra's

This race will use the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk SCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=331;theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Syd Drake on April 15, 2012, 11:26:35 AM +0100
Am I missing something in my pack? Cause there is no 427KW Cobra. There's a 427 model, with 354KW.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Hotkeys on April 15, 2012, 11:50:16 AM +0100
It just downloaded the Cobra pack and the skin pack linked in the post, and it works for me Syd as I can get a 354 kW Cobra ....... did you click the GTC 65 class ?

Unlike in P&G, the default setup seems to be rather good here, and I just increased the limit on the differential slip to 50 % and set the final gear ratio to max.

But still, are there any good tips for the setup for the Cobra 427 ?



Thanks in advance

Stih





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Syd Drake on April 15, 2012, 12:48:18 PM +0100
I can select the 354KW Cobra. What I was referring is first post. Tony says 427KW Cobra, and there's no 427KW cobra. Just 427 model, with 354KW. Possibly just a typo from Tony, but I would like to confirm it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Hotkeys on April 15, 2012, 01:45:21 PM +0100
427 kW ?    ..... he, he 

You might need to put some glue on the tyres in order to make use of 572 BHP in a Cobra from the sixties  ;D ;D

Stig


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 15, 2012, 02:01:49 PM +0100
I can select the 354KW Cobra. What I was referring is first post. Tony says 427KW Cobra, and there's no 427KW cobra. Just 427 model, with 354KW. Possibly just a typo from Tony, but I would like to confirm it.

Well spotted Syd. Indeed it's a mistake which has now been corrected.  :oops:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: SpecialKS on April 15, 2012, 07:14:32 PM +0100
I think I'll skip this one.
Unable to manage at least half a lap without crashing into the barriers (reversed tyres)
 ???

Have fun guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Ross Hawkey on April 15, 2012, 11:08:14 PM +0100
Should be able to make this one now, if that's ok.

I've run a few laps on the server, and all is working ok, and am looking forward to it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: purdie on April 16, 2012, 11:29:40 AM +0100
Loved the nurburg run and keen to learn this place if i finish early today  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 16, 2012, 12:44:58 PM +0100
Loved the nurburg run and keen to learn this place if i finish early today  :)

Your in luck mate! This must be one of the easiest circuits to learn


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Geoff65 on April 16, 2012, 03:41:22 PM +0100
I should make this one as well. Not a huge fan of Riverside, but the Cobra sure gives it a new face.........


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: M Cinderby on April 16, 2012, 03:54:30 PM +0100
 :) Great track Tony I love the es-is. Getting sub 1.37's with some lovely drifting!!!  ;D  :o  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Ross Hawkey on April 16, 2012, 10:19:07 PM +0100
Well, that was really enjoyable again.

Qual:Had a good battle with Geoffers for Pole, with Geoffers coming out on top. I'd got in a decent early lap, and through the session, it looked like it was gonna get beaten a few times (going by sector 1 & 2 times), I was eventually pipped late on in the session.

Race:My start was OK, but I'm never great off the line, and lost a couple of places. Going into the uphill right, I saw Oliver Rakonjac running wide (also suffering from a bit of lag), I tried to stay tighter to the right, but we had slight contact as Oliver returned to the track, and again just after the next corner. I think the lag maybe had a big part to play in it.

I then had a couple of laps following Oliver & Syd, while watching Geoffers disappear up the road.  Got by Syd out of the last corner, then past Oliver on the back straight shortly after. Bad luck Geoffers, and well done Navin for a great run in the 289.

The middle part of the race was pretty quiet.  Mostly following Phil, who'd had a very early and long pitstop. Shame, 'cos we seemed evenly matched for time.

Then with a couple of laps to go, the gap to P1 suddenly closed, and a mistake at the hairpin saw me into the lead for the final 2 laps to the flag (albeit a bit lucky in the end).

Great to see 15 Cobras rumbling around, on a track that although simple, has a great flow.

Thanks for the organisation, and see you on track again soon.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 16, 2012, 11:02:16 PM +0100
Replay and results now posted.

Another great turnout, thanks guy's  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Geoff65 on April 17, 2012, 03:33:13 AM +0100
Replay and results now posted.

Another great turnout, thanks guy's  :thumbup1:

You're welcome Tony, but where are the replays put??
Thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Navin R Johnson on April 17, 2012, 06:24:43 AM +0100
Replay and results now posted.

Another great turnout, thanks guy's  :thumbup1:

You're welcome Tony, but where are the replays put??
Thanks.

Right here Geoff ;). Glad to see you got GTL sorted ;D

(http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt233/NavinRJohnson123/Replay.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Geoff65 on April 17, 2012, 08:44:04 AM +0100
Cheers Navin....'twas not too difficult to get it up and running. gotta pull my pedals apart now, brakes are not releasing fully at times that I trailbrake.....hard to make the cars pull against dragging brakes. Enjoyed the race though all the same....should have stayed with the faster car though....it was a tad lonely.
Geoff.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 17, 2012, 08:52:30 AM +0100
Cheers Navin....'twas not too difficult to get it up and running. gotta pull my pedals apart now, brakes are not releasing fully at times that I trailbrake.....hard to make the cars pull against dragging brakes. Enjoyed the race though all the same....should have stayed with the faster car though....it was a tad lonely.
Geoff.
Nice to have you with us Geoff. Remember any forthcoming event (Top right of Home page) prefixed L12 is a GTL event  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Geoffers on April 17, 2012, 09:02:51 AM +0100
It's not often I'm disappointed with 2nd place, but I threw away a good chance of a win at Riverside. :'(

Got pole after several attempts resulted in mistakes near the end of the lap. Got away fairly well & just tried to not make any mistakes in the first few corners, got to the long straight, looked behind & there was no one to be seen. Was worried I might have had one of those discos where you get left on the track circulating on your own!  ???  Kept going & was relieved at the end of lap 1 when XD showed I had a 6s lead.

Then just concentrated on putting in consistent laps & not making silly mistakes which went well until about lap 20 when I caught Matt at the tight right before the straight. Matt looked to be on a wide line so I went to go inside him, when he got a little sideways I braked which tightened my line & I hit the tyres!  ::) 17s lead down to 4s! Over the next 3-4 laps I kept the gap to Ross constant & then caught Matt at the same place again with the same result!  :o Matt looked to be keeping left to let me pass but I guess he didn't see me & again I had to brake, lost the rear a little & clipped the tyres. My own fault, if I had just been a little patient the 427 would have passed the 289 on the straight.

Anyway Ross went past & on to win, well driven Ross.  :thumbup1:

Congrats also to Syd & to Navin in the first 289  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: phspok on April 17, 2012, 10:41:38 AM +0100
Pretty well what Geoffers said. At first I was not expecting anyone to try to lap in that
tight right/left onto the straight when the 427 would have breezed past on the straight
but kept a bit wide just in case the orange car (at first I thought it was Phil unlapping himself)
went for it, didn't seem to be happening and my right view showed no one there so I turned
in trying to still leave some room, but off line was a little unstable, both times it happened
I could not understand where the orange car went, I was going down the straight furiously
switching right and left view to make sure I didn't turn in at the end as i couldn't see another
car, and had not seen it go into the tyres.... "Where the pilchard IS HE!"  I watched the replay
and other than stopping, not sure I could have done much else, especially as I was sort of
trying to chase Mark Cinderby and didn't really want to lose any more time than I needed to.
Was a shame anyway, and must have been frustrating, I guess I got called some names
at the time...  :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: BillThomas on April 17, 2012, 12:27:11 PM +0100
Sorry for missing this one but I'd spent 8 enjoyable hours travelling to/from hospital and being directed from one dept to the next, chittie in hand, to join the new queue like a displaced person seeking recognition.  As result knackered with no time to down load track or practice - still it's worth it I quess for reassurance that I'm OK.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 17, 2012, 12:42:52 PM +0100
still it's worth it I quess for reassurance that I'm OK.

We demand a second opinion  ;)

Glad your OK really Bill  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on April 17, 2012, 12:44:40 PM +0100
Matt, what's the car facing us in your avatar?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: SpecialKS on April 17, 2012, 12:51:15 PM +0100
Matt, what's the car facing us in your avatar?

looks like a Honda S2000

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/19089993 (http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/19089993)

 :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: SpecialKS on April 17, 2012, 12:54:41 PM +0100
I'm OK.

Hope to meet you on track on Thursday - good to hear that you're fine

  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Geoffers on April 17, 2012, 01:53:27 PM +0100
Was a shame anyway, and must have been frustrating, I guess I got called some names
at the time...  :o

I must admit a few choice words were forthcoming & the steering wheel was nearly ripped from the desk on the second occasion  :o
I actually thought it was the last lap & eased off after the last turn thinking Ross had won, only to cross the line & find it wasn't the last lap.  ::) Then put my foot down again & nearly spun losing any remote chance I had of catching Ross!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: phspok on April 17, 2012, 02:30:52 PM +0100
The car is a Honda S2000 which is my latest chariot for Hillclimbs and Sprints this year
(and road car at the moment) The 106 is "resting" in my garage.

had it's first outing on Sunday last, I lost horribly to my friend who also has an S2000
but beat off a challenge from a couple of MX5s (it was a very tight and twisty track
where the S2k couldn't really make good use of it's 240 bhp) That's my excuse anyway

I assumed all S2ks were the same, but they are not, the suspension setup changed quite
radically every 2 years, and mine, which is the last of the Mk1 (known as AP1) has a horrible
setup with a soft front ARB and a stiff rear ARB, the damm thing feels like the the back is
on a wet track, and the front is dry. It seems i need a front ARB (much stiffer) off an older model
to get a decent baclance. I was opposite locking for fun, good to watch , but not the quickest
way round the track.... ::)



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: M Cinderby on April 17, 2012, 07:54:51 PM +0100
 :) Qualified P10  :o ::)....Got a great start and found my self chasing Navin.  :)  Pushed as hard as I could but did not make much impression we were about 1.5 secs apart for at least 11 laps.  ;D I then became aware of a certain Mr Ade B in another 289 closing the gap on me and around 2/3 distance the pressure was to much and he passed me.  ::)  A few laps later and I nodded off through the eases (what a mistakea to makea) :o :o  and had to throw it sideways to miss the barrier which allowed Phspok to close right up to a 4 sec gap. Regained my concentration to finish P6 in a pool of sweat.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 Shelby AC Cobra Challenge - Riverside (Nascar) - Apr 16
Post by: Navin R Johnson on April 17, 2012, 08:37:24 PM +0100
.After struggling a few weeks ago with Mustangs and or Falcons here I wasn't too keen to come back here. The cure for this track was apparently Cobra's ;D. Great fun sliding these around here. The start was a little scarey as I could see all of the lagging Oly's car was having. Once through some of the struggling 427's I settled in and tried to get into a rhythm so not to have anymore recent brain fade moments. Riverside isn't difficult but does have some technical challenges where you must grab some of the inside of the apexes to keep the car from understeering on exit. Plus that last corner where you never feel like you get all of it. Either go too deep and drive up the banking and waste to much time in the corner or enter it correctly and it feels like you left to much track on the exit and you should of gone in deeper. Frustrating! :-\. During the race I felt tag teamed bye Mark early and then Ade in the second half :o. Ade found some extra speed during the race so it was pretty much at my limit during most of the race. I really need to change some of my sets to have more oversteer at the beginning of the race because Ade's always seem to be much more neutral at the end of a run while I'm struggling with understeer. Big congrats to Ross for the win. Also grats to Geoffers and Syd for their podys. Great turnout and nice to see some new faces ;D Cheers

PS What a great powerplant that S2000 has hey Matt. 9000 RPM! Holy moly !!  :o Nice ride  8)