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UKGPL Season 22 GT Teams Championship
Race 3 Imola

 The third race in the GT team series takes us to the heart of Italy and one of the iconic circuits. Some sweeping bends that will challenge the road holding of the GT's and some tighter corners that will require some good brakes to slow these beasts down.
The team competition is warming up and it looks like every point will count in this championship, so getting your car to the end is a priority. The Porsches will probably struggle for outright speed against the brutal Fords here, but there are some Porsche friendly tracks later in the series which should redress the balance and it seems that those who drive the Porkers have their own race within a race to collect as many team points as they can.

 
Please check the Season 22 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=335&theme=6) regarding rules and the GT Teams Championship (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=338&theme=6) pages in particular.

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The GT races are run under Int Long rules and there will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident. Drivers are reminded that they are limited to ONE Shift-R

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Race List = iGOR
Server = T7_2
IP address =62.149.202.168
Race date = 20/11/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Imola
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 35 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

GT International Team
Juha Hallikainen, David Rainier, Axel "Cookie"   
Cars                     
Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B, Lola T70 MkIII


Team 7
Fulvio Policardi, S2173, Samb
Cars
Lola T70, Mirage M1, Porsche 910


Hiki Waza Racing
EvilClive, Nigel Smith, FMG?
Cars
Porsche 910, Lola, Ford GT40 Mk4


Clark Hill Racing
Al Heller, King Hiro, Bartosz/Vosblod
Cars
Mirage M1, Lola T70, Porsche 910


Team Green
Doni Yourth, Phil Thornton, Jason Blito
Cars
Ferrari, Ford GT40 Mk2B, Porsche 910


Team Godzilla
Alex Barresi, Mark75 Barresi, Badblood   
Cars                     
Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B



Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=338;theme=6)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

The race is imminent and i ask for a response to my question in GT subscription thread:

"In exception at actual rules, i ask the moderators to be able to replace the 3 Gt40 Mk II, purchased for the championship, with as many Porsche 910, to be used for the remaining 8 races.
I accept immediate penalty for the violation of the rule g) or, alternatively, to have cleared the points scored in two races played so far".

Apologies Alex, I missed that request.

Unfortunately, the rules are quite clear, the cars which are selected at the beginning of the season are the ones that you must use for all of the races. The whole ethos of this championship is to select the cars that will work best throughout the whole season with your team of drivers.

The tracks have been chosen to give the slower cars an advantage at some circuits and the faster cars at others. If we allow your team cars to be changed after a few races, then we must allow ALL teams the same opportunity to switch their cars if they want to, and it ceases to be the challenge it was intended to be.

There are still quite a few tracks where we have to race, where the Mk2 will have a distinct speed advantage over cars like the Porsche, Ferrari or Lola so I do not think that you are at a huge disadvantage for the rest of the season.

All this was already clear to me: the request was, in fact, notwithstanding rules and motivated by the fact that my First Driver Paul has a few minor (?!) problems to keep on track the GT40 (this i do not know, when I chose the car in preseason).
If you change your opinion, at least give him the Porsche so that he can have fun like everyone else, and penalize the team for violation of the rule g); Marco and i can stay with the GT40 with no problems.
Paul, i authorize you to throw out everything that moves on the track at Imola, also your teammates ...  ;D

Alex,

I very much appreciate the sentiment but don't let the fact I can't drive ruin your enjoyment. I am having fun, even in the Mk 2. My aims are just a little lower than other drivers - e.g. Try to average less than one spin per lap; set a PB and bask in the reflected glory of the mighty Barresi bros.

Don't forget - I am a reigning champion - check out Season 21 ;)

Alex,


Thank you for considering your team mate Paul and I completely understand that you did not know how well he would perform with the Mk2B when you chose that as the team car.
Paul has expressed his views here and seems happy to continue with his car. I think Paul may be receiving some "help" with setups to make his car easier to drive.

Gentleman,

I have been asked to attend a meeting tomorrow night at 8:30 pm so either some kind soul needs to start the server or I shall start it at 8:25.

Apologies to Clive and to my team for the problem.

If you are able to Paul, I see no reason why the server cannot be started at 8:25.

Because we are starting it very early can we make it clear on IGOR that it is THE RACE SERVER?

Yep

Paul I'm setting right now T7 server for 35 laps Long race and I can start it tonight no problem. ;)
Ciao

Thank you very much Fulvio.

I didn't think it could get any worse than the last race (or the one before that...or the one before that...or...yeah) but I was wrong. Yeah, I finished... last... and with the penalty points I'll be worse than last...

At start everyone ahead started fast...and braked hard again. I panicked, locked all the brakes and doors I could find,  kicked the hell out of all pedals and turned the steering wheel the wrong way... into someone, probably Nigel. Then I was running after the rest again, and the rolling lap was abit too fast to be rolling...Then there were alot of people parked at the starting line of lap 2. What they did there I don't know, probably were setting a police blockade for me...  I managed to squeese barely between them and then finished in the fence. And after I got out of there, I was last... for the rest of the race. Crash after crash and spin after spin I made my way trough the rest of the laps, and my frustration and terror were like hot and cold waves, swallowing me whole,  and I saw monsters and ugly faces grinning and pointing at me, hidden in the trees, and I heard cruel laughter when I passed under the tribunes... And the engine went almost dead with 10 laps to go...  And then I finished something...I think...I don't know what, why or where...

The race has been imported but Al Heller was DQ'ed by the server and his place will (almost certainly) be re-instated.

As always, replay is available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS22_js.htm). Just select the GTs series and click the download link. Analysis is available if you click on the Archive name.

That analysis is available directly from here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/archive/season22/analysis/S22_GTs_R03_2011_12_04_Imola/index.html).

The Replay .rar files are available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/archive/season22/GTs/S22_GTs_R03_2011_12_04_Imola.rar).

Don't know what happened at the start but I expected everyone to have floored it after Rivazza (the last left hander) not leave it until the kink before the start line.  Consequently when I was left for dead at exit of Rivazza I though the race was on and the last thing I expected to see was several cars practically stationary on the start line.  I managed to anchor on but ended up on the grass I somehow managed to miss everyone and carried on albeit several places down.

I had a good battle with Geoff and Fulvio in the early laps until I made a mistake at Acque Minerali.  I lost touch with Fulvio but continued my dice with Geoff until he slid off at Rivazza and I was through.  I tried my best to catch Fulvio but each time I made a bit of ground I ended up running wide somewhere and loosing all the ground I had made up.

Quite pleased with my pace but the Porker was capable of more as Tim was able to show.  That's 3 GT races in the Porker done for me, looking forward to a quicker car for the next round ;D

Grats to Doni on pole position, pit you couldn't turn it into a win.  I was monitoring you progress on Pribluda, you were looking good for most of the race!  Close finish though only 4/100 ths behind Mark.

Well done on a finish Jason.

Allways fun to read the mechanical report afterwards... I think my car looked something like this at the  end...

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l640/s2173/gt40_20101029_2.jpg)

Mine was like that at the start!
 ;)

Next time I would avoid this 13  :oops:

We were way to fast for a rolling start plus that weird slowing down afther Rivazza. That's not how rolling start should look like.

As for my race.  I decided to take it easy, find my pace and stick to it. Everything was going great until around lap 25. When changing gears from 3rd to 4th I've made mistake and for fraction of a second I was on neutral. That was enough to blow my engine. Afther my SnG I was trying to catch guys in front of me, but I lost my concentration, plus being lapped didn't help ;)

I confirm 1000%

I would not have had this pain in the ass Porky, who made me sweat, till I could not see anything with this sweat in my eyes burning...
When going wide in Tosa, kissing the armco, I damaged my front suspension.
So my car got a little unpredictable under braking and in fast corners  >:(
Arriving Tamburello a little too fast, normally no problem over the green, Sky just parked there...
Avoiding a big crash I spun and Fulvio gained my place  :P

It seems you have had one of "Wacky Races". Who was Dick Dastardly ? :laugh:

I saw the replay and i apologize again with Al, i assume the responsibility of the incident at start that will be subject to moderation.
I have only one thing to say: i enjoyed this race, but in last laps i was mentally very tired.
Driving in relax for one hour is fine, but this is not true with a deamon attached to tail for almost all the time, i think that less laps was a better choice to fit 50 minutes.
I felt like an elephant hounded by a mouse, and, at the end, the rat have eating the pachyderm ... 

That was a great battle Alex  ;D

Looking at laptimes it seems I was faster for most of the race, but on the rare occaisions I managed to pass you my efforts kept being ruined by a problem with the brakes in Aqua minirale.
In common with a fairly well documented issue in the GT mod the Porsche would randomly lock it's front brakes and hurl me onto the grass on the outside of the turn - always allowing you to retake the position  :wetfish:

I was getting very frustrated at myself and the Porsche as we neared the end of the race, and realised that while you seemed to be getting slightly slower (Or I was speeding up, not sure which yet) you were none the less going to defend as hard as you possibly good till the end  :)

That final battle into Tosa was proper skin of the teeth - How you managed to nearly match my braking and not hit me I don't know, but I guess you didn't quite make it as you ran slightly wide at the corner exit.
Fantastic effort at re-taking me though  ;D

I enjoyed that race, other than the brake issue the Porsche was great fun  :angel:
Welldone podium types and finishers!

Oddly enough I really enjoyed that too, although my comparative lack of pace was a bit of a problem. I had tweaked the MKII1s setup to the point where it was a very easy to control car... provided I didn't want to press on a bit! When I did try to up the pace whilst holding off Rainier, I found that my soft setup was punishing the front right tyre, especially though Tamburello which of course was leading top braking problems at Tosa which is how Rainier eventually managed to squeeze by.  Mostly for me it was a cruise to a finish to try blag some points... I had two spins through braking issues  ( one due to a red hot front tyre and the other to a dopey headed Blito driving on the grass whilst letting team-mate Doni lap him) ...
On the whole I feel like I'm making progress with my driving of these cars but its just a pity the results aren't showing that....

Unfortunately Team Green are propping up the table.  We are not a long way behind though, a couple of good results and we'll leapfrog a few teams  :whistling:

Total disaster for me as my race was effectively over before it even started. Got rather thrown when Doni didn't floor it out of the final corner & several of us who'd already started motoring had to stand on the brakes. As we approached the startline the field ahead of me bunched up again but behind others were going full pelt & the next thing I knew I received a Godzilla-sized shove that sent me careering across the track & into the barriers. (No problem Alex - these things happen). A comedy of errors then followed as I rejoined rather gingerly only to be immediately collected by another car & launched into orbit. After flipping end-over-end several times, amazingly I landed the right way up & seemingly intact (if a tad disorientated) so proceeded up the track only to wonder what the pit complex was doing at the end of the straight... aaargh wrong way! I decided to try & pit next lap to see if I could serve a penalty to get rid of the black flag & thought I may as well reset in case of damage too. Stopped the following lap for the stop & go at my pit box but GPL was having none of it & insisted I was still disqualified. Carried on regardless but with Prib disabled by my DQ I had no idea where I was or who I was racing. Shame, as I was enjoying the Mirage & think I could have been quite competitive with my laptimes. Tailed Alex & FMG at the end & enjoyed watching their epic fight but tried not to get too involved as I wasn't even sure if I should still be on track. Congrats to the podium boys & bad luck to Doni - looked like you were all having a great scrap from the replay.  

After the misery of Spa, this race provided a refreshing tonic for me  :). The first half of the race involved me try to pass Doni, whilst defending against Juha. Sadly I caught Jason at the wrong time while trying to lap him and our contact pitched me into a half spin, losing out to the leading trio. It was then I put on a charge, and surprisingly not going off the road given my on track record of late  ;).

It look about 5 laps to catch Clive, who lost the back end at Rivazza, allowing me through. With Doni and Juha battling hard, I was able to catch up. Soon after Doni lost it on the bump just after the start finish straight. Bad luck there Doni, you really had driven superbly up to that point, much to my annoyance earlier on  :).

So, I was up to 2nd although catching and passing Juha was another matter. We were roughly equal on pace in the same machinery and there was really very little chance of overtaking. I gave it a shot though and was oh-so-close behind when the flag dropped, a lap too early.

Congrats to Juha for a fine win and to Doni and Clive for making things interesting for so long.

I thought that I had covered just about everything in the rules for rolling starts on the race announcement.  :-\ :-\ :-\

If everyone drove as it was intended to read, Sam, Juha and myself ( and anyone else!) could have passed Doni after the exit of Rivazza. Unfortunately Doni appeared to think that racing started when he crossed the S/F line, Sam was too much of a gentleman to exploit that mistake, Juha was wrongfooted by Sam's slowdown and I found my road blocked by 3 cars!!
It appears that just about everyone behind was also caught out by this rolling roadblock which caused a few "incidents" further down the field.

In future GT race announcements I will make it plain that racing starts after the last (proper) corner on the rolling lap AND I will name the corner, because there just might have been confusion at Imola between Rivazza and that slight right hand curve before the S/F line.

Once the race got going the battle at the front was intense.

Doni was obviously quick from his pole position in his Ferrari and both Sam and Juha had their Lolas fired up. I was happy to sit and watch in 4th place whilst team Godzilla's Mk2B's were not far behind. Slowly the front 4 cars drew away from the chasing pack and it became very clear that we all had similar pace. Making a pass was going to require a mistake from the guy in front and no-one seemed  very keen to be that generous.
Sam pressured Doni at every opportunity but Doni refused to yield. Juha stayed close and I kept a "safe" distance in case they all got too "touchy/feely" in front. Sam eventually spun out and Juha immediately took his place to pressure Doni. It was about this point that I lost a little concentration ( something that continued to be a problem for me for the rest of the race!!) and allowed a wheel to get onto thet green tarmac. A half spin dropped me back and gave me a wake up call, so I quickly closed the gap back to Juha over the next few laps only to relax as soon as I was within slipstream range and go wide again  ::)
Sam was closing all the time because of my errors and Juha and Doni were creeping away.
Sm got past after another dumb move on my part and after I passed a stricken Doni I found myself in a surprising 3rd spot with loads of time back to the Godzilla MK2B and only about 8 laps to go.
Well it should have been easy from there to the flag, but I tried to make it as difficult as possible for myself by having 2 or 3 more minor offs and allowing Godzilla and a recovering Doni to get right onto my tail with 3 laps to go.
I just managed to prod my last remaining brain cell into life to keep the car on the road and claim a better place than I deserved.
Grats to Juha and Sam who were very quick, hard luck Doni who lost the top step with a single mistake.

Big grats to my teammate FMG for bringing the Porker home in a great 6th spot and thereby lifting Hiki Waza to the top of the team rankings  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I wouldn't get too comfy up there Clive or I may forget to re-map you to Hiki Waza GT and Tim's points would go to Black Night....  ;)

Al completed 34 laps and was less than a second behind FMG. That lifts him to 13th and the results have been adjusted accordingly. If anyone believes this to be wrong, please let me know.

A Lola sweep of the podium!  Grats to Juha, Sam and Clive for fine performances.

A bitter pill for me to swallow after having held the lead for so long only to get a little anxious and make a dubious move over the bump that sent me spinning.  Cost Team Green a bunch of points.  Ah, well...

Some great and memorable racing action featured for the first 2/3 of this event as first I had to fend off Sam then Juha.  On the 24th lap, I got a good pass thru the Tamburello but Juha got an even better one to get position on me and prevent me from taking my preferred line into Tosa.  There, I held low so as not to collide with the Lola but that left the door open for Juha to out-gun me on the following straight and the run to the Piratella.  I see by the replay that I could have squeaked ahead going around Tosa but with such a limited rear view in GPL in general and the GT Mod in particular, better to play it safe.

Several laps later, after spooling up the Ferrari to stay in touch with the fleet Lola, I saw a chance to really close as we negotiated some lapped traffic.  I had several mph in hand as we crossed the S/F line and I hoped to get a look to the left as we ran down to the Tamburello.  Unfortunately, I neglected to pay due respect to the bump in the left-hand kink just passed the S/F line and this unbalanced the car a ton.  A wild trip into the grass and my chances spun away.

I recovered to chase Mark's Ford but he was fast and precise and I wasn't about to bungle again.

As for the start, well, a startline shunt didn't help matters, did it?  I felt that the pace I set on the lap was good and holding a steady pace coming off the Rivazza is the thing to do to allow the field to close up.  I don't understand why it was felt that I should have been on it just after the exit to the Rivazza; that's near on a full kilometer from the S/F line and the starter.  I have to confess to not paying too much attention to the instructions for our rolling starts but I've done enough in real-life..from pole position...to know how to conduct this sort of thing.  I'm indeed sorry to all whom were compromised.  I'm relieved to read that Clive will set strict parameters in the future races to avoid a repetition of the grief.

was comfortable with the track and car,  i have raced Imola few times before and it was good help to get pace. On rolling lap i was pleased not to get on pole postition as im not good starter  ;D  .Iwas a bit confused about Doni's slow last corner but i was so shock that i didnt even think to pass him. Good and very close racing top 4 drivers ,Evil was keeping some more distance to our trio but was controlling good pace, i think he thought someone will crash on top  :laugh: . Our trio battle was exciting and we all waited to someone to make mistakes, but no one didnt make one,unfortunately Sam's Lola touched Jason Blito car and dropped back from the pack,i was gain to 2nd place chasing Doni's Ferrari. Evil did have bad moment on Rivazza , i think he was too close to me on entering Rivazza and have to make an corrected move to avoid crash to me and slided to the grass. Few 2-3 laps later i did have good close slipstream on Tamburello and make success pass on slow left hander, i think Doni did have too long 2nd gear there and was slow speed out of that corner.   Last 10 laps i was cruising to the finish line, Sam was behind but in safe distance to not interrupt my driving, only in finish line there was only 0,1 seconds cap .

Good racing good track, thanks all!   its looking now way better on Team championship table, but we need more points !

cya on Mosport !

Hi, fellas!  I just looked ahead in our GT schedule and our next round is slated for Mosport on January 20th.  ???  That's a Friday.  The 15th is currently shown as a UKGPL vs GPLBrasil punchup and the 22nd is reserved for the GP67 Works race.  Where should this GT MOD event be posted?

Good spot. It should, of course, be 29th January which IS a Sunday.

oops!!   BTW moderation for Imola is almost done.
Just the tedious checking of SnG's for every car to complete....fell asleep watching cars on fast forward yesterday  :-\

Uncle Clive has magically updated the event ;)

I think I put them in so my mistake. It was right on the replay server...  ;D

 Moderation now published .