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Title: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 05, 2011, 07:09:31 PM +0000
All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 BST (20 mins)
Qual 2:       20:20 BST (20 mins)
Race:          20:40 BST (60 mins)- note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GTC from the UKGTR car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics) v2.15.0.0
Track: Road America V1.0.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_roadamerica)
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable - based on real world conditions.

WEATHER REPORT:
Start conditions
 Weather: Dry and sunny
 On line: Dry
 Off line: Dry
 Ambient: 12.00
 Track: 19.60
Forecast Conditions
 Probability of rain: 0%
 Early Conditions:  Dry
 Mid Race Conditions:  Dry
 Late Race Conditions:  Dry

Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: x2.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: simracing.org.uk GTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=345;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.








Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 07, 2011, 06:30:25 PM +0000
Good news for the Sharkies just went bad.

My TV is getting collected tomorow but my dad is lending me his old one which has a VGA port so I will be here for the GTC race this weekend. :-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Burtoner on December 10, 2011, 08:13:27 PM +0000
what kind of laptimes are people doing?, im doing 2:20s in a Ferrari F40 GTC


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 10, 2011, 09:53:30 PM +0000
what kind of laptimes are people doing?, im doing 2:20s in a Ferrari F40 GTC


Looking at the top of the page I guess that a Z4M will do it in 2:09.

You will have to pedal faster Burt.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 10, 2011, 10:25:46 PM +0000
This gonna be a tough one


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Legzy on December 11, 2011, 01:22:18 AM +0000
what kind of laptimes are people doing?, im doing 2:20s in a Ferrari F40 GTC


Looking at the top of the page I guess that a Z4M will do it in 2:09.

You will have to pedal faster Burt.
Think the Z4 has gained a few Xmas pounds since then. I would imagine 2:10 should still be doable (if you're in a Porka ;))


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 11, 2011, 03:09:54 AM +0000
Server has been set to dry but, with temperatures similar to what we can expect in the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 11, 2011, 03:10:47 AM +0000
I got the Aston in to the 2:10s with 20 Degrees C ambient.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Todzila on December 11, 2011, 04:31:52 AM +0000
Hello everyone, new guy here.  I have been practicing for this race, but at an average lap of 2:20, I will not be attending this one.  I have been playing this game with assists, and have learned that it is a whole different game on simulation.   ;D  I did want to drop a line here and introduce myself.  I will continue to hit the tracks and, hopefully  join you guys in some races soon.

Good luck on Road America,
-Todzila


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 11, 2011, 10:37:16 AM +0000
Hey todzila.

Don't worry if you aren't competitive, I'm not either but it is a big help if you can attend the races I've only been in this league for 4 or 5 months and I've improved a great deal. still not brilliant but a lot better than I was.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: spanner on December 11, 2011, 11:29:53 AM +0000
Welcome Todzilla, nice to see a new face, and a new face to the game clearly.

I wouldnt worry about lap times so much, consistency is the key. Its all about being smooth with your inputs and dont try and over drive it. I would make sure you have setup your wheel correctly (assuming you have one) as that will be key to helping you. Many of us have been playing this for quite a while so dont be too put off by the times.  I'm sure your'll be up to speed in no time.


I tried running on friday night in the F430 but couldnt get on with it all with either of my last setups, doesnt bode well. Hope to try and sort something before the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Manteos on December 11, 2011, 02:58:41 PM +0000
I've done some laps on the 911 RS, and I'm impressed about the difference between quali laptimes and race laptimes. However til now:

2.08.3 (quali)
2.11.4 (race)

I guess I should go down a bit in race trim, but at the moment I feel some bad reactions by the car. Hope to be able to race... Cu :)

P.S Welcome aboard Todzila :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 11, 2011, 06:35:16 PM +0000
Starting to hit the 2:13's but with a bit of a tweek might be able to get down to 2:12's


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 11, 2011, 07:40:42 PM +0000
Weather report done, 1st post updated.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 11, 2011, 08:01:50 PM +0000
ohh shotguns this week, in the dry too


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Truetom on December 11, 2011, 09:31:26 PM +0000
 :D Was no use, JPV. Both fronts were punctured and front wing gone. Nice of you to try to get me back on track but the car just would go. ;D No hard feelings, was a nice side by side action. Don't let this discourage you, nice to have you racing with us. :)  This car is too clumsy, especially with me driving. Kind of like GT1 Marcos. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Mark J on December 11, 2011, 09:57:09 PM +0000
Good turn out and decent race, though shame my usual sparring partners left early.

Had a good first half despite a noobie error on lap 2 with cold tyres that dropped me to the back, but was fun chasing everyone to get back upto 7th and thats where i finished after a bit of a lonely 2nd half with nobody in front or behind close enough for last 25mins.

Congrats to [email protected] sure how you beat Jon M and Manteos !  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 11, 2011, 10:12:51 PM +0000
great race some close racing with JPV for a few laps (sorry for the nudge on the last corner on lap 9)

no major offs however cos of the gravel lost a few seconds each time but still a great race.

see ya next week for the lmp2's


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 11, 2011, 10:14:31 PM +0000
Results and replay in the usual places


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: JonM_uk on December 11, 2011, 10:17:53 PM +0000
I had a nice qually session and ended up with pole which I wasn't expecting tbh. I think others were faster and this showed in the race.

Wow, what can I say about the race. The first half was an amazing 4 car scrap. I was in front to start but Truetom, H@L and Manteos were all quicker than me. There was some good racing between everyone with a few errors that left H@L in the lead. I did feel sorry for Manteos in his F430, it is soooo weak down the straights compared to the...Morgan!!! There were a couple of slides and contacts that all went in my favour with TT and Mant coming togeter and then TT and JPV. This changed the race from probably finishing 4th to getting 3rd or 2nd. My own race was littered with errors from crashing on the entrance of the pits to running off in the last turn, it was quite a poor show from me today. The only reason I finished 2nd was because of Manteos' mechanical problems and just to make things worse for him the Morgan powered past the F430 by less than 0.1(0.029 :o)  on the finish line. It was a very exciting finish for me but I felt for Manteos because he deserved the postion for a good drive.

 H@L on the other hand was the class of the field and fully deserved his win 8)
Grats H@L 8)
Nice racing all


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 11, 2011, 10:24:18 PM +0000
ohh shotguns this week

Indeed. One of my favourite in BF3. :)

Congrats to [email protected] sure how you beat Jon M and Manteos !  :o

Thanks mate. Me neither. :o

Great race for me (of course ;D).

Very close and hard fighting with Manteos, TT and Jon up until the pit stop where I seemed to gain a lot of time. I did come in way too hot and I must have been very close to getting a drive through for speeding in the pit lane. I thought that it was 48mph for some reason. My race was a bit quiet after that.

Thanks all and well done.

See you next time. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: quicksilver384 on December 11, 2011, 10:28:55 PM +0000
ohh shotguns this week
Quote
Indeed. One of my favourite in BF3. :)
Me I'm a sniper. SV98 all the way


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Manteos on December 11, 2011, 10:34:35 PM +0000
Give some power to the Prancing Horse please!!!

I tried a lot of cars before the race, and I decided to move away from the tooooo fast 911 GT3 RS, but I bet on the wrong (prencing) horse  ;D

Didn't noticed the difference in terms of speed with the RS before the race, but with splitter 2 and wing 3, this car is too much slower than the others. I would prefere a worse handling in place of an underpowered engine, but there are circa 13-14 km/h difference at the end of the straight here between the RS and the 430... a bit too much thinking about the reality, and considering I was driving the 911 RS with a click more on the rear wing.

However, talking about the race, I enjoyed it a lot in the first 10-12 laps, even if I had no chance to attack, and only the chance to defend the position was pulling the brakings and pushing a lot in every corner.
I was in a good 3rd position, close to H@l and Jon at lap 11 or 12, but I braked touching the grass, and my car inevitably spun. In that moment Truetom was coming, but he had no time to react to avoid me, so we had a bad crash, and my rear left suspention has succumbed, without considering the aero damage.
The omelette was done! In the subsequent 2 laps, I stayed on the track, just to see if the car was still drivable... and in fact it was possible to bring it to the checkered flag. So I decided not to repair aero and suspention, and I even not changed my worned soft tyres, that was the only good compound to have some chances to compete with the guys in front, and their "beasts".
I came back on track in 2nd position, but my pace was really different by the first half of the race. Jon, that probably changed at least 2 tyres, was gaining on me more than 2 seconds per lap, and lap by lap, my tyres were always worse. Luckily for me, Jon had a "distraction" at the last corner, with 5 or 6 laps to go, so I tried to be more consistent than fast, but it was every lap more difficult. He replaced his 18 seconds gap at the last corner of the last lap, and the useless Fiat Punto Evo engine did the rest :D :D
Grats to Jon for his great tenacity and a deserved 2nd place. Grats to H@l for a great race!
Sorry TT, but I couldn't do nothing about our crash :(

Cu for the next, but never more with a F430, especially in circuits with long straights. This car is good only in some kart tracks  ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Truetom on December 12, 2011, 08:17:29 AM +0000
As was already said, there was a good scrap going on in the first half with Jon, Manteos and H@l. I even got to be first for half a lap, thanks to the crazy top speed of ViperCC. :w00t: Cold shower then, from hero to zero in one corner. :D Was 4th then and closing again on the first three when Manteos spun and was sitting on track, couldn't avoid and crashed into him. I guess it was one of those real situations when you can only watch and grab your member to keep it safe. ;) Lost my front or so it felt. As it was close to half and would pit in the next lap anyway I went to make repairs and change tyres, get some fuel, a sandwich... Came out after JPV who didn't pit yet and so we were in direct duel. Nice side by side action ended in a collision and both of us quitting. :( Again, no hard feelings, JPV. :) Would be interesting to see the second part of 4 way racing from the first half, though it may be JPV saved me from humiliation. :P

Nice to see server with a bit more people on. :)   


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: spanner on December 12, 2011, 11:29:33 AM +0000
Very dissapointed, I just couldnt get on with F430, had no confidence in braking, no temps in the tyres, car didnt like going through the corners abd i just couldnt improve it >:( So with 8 mins to go till qually i decided to just jump in the 997 as i normally can drive it straight away, but jumping back in i felt like a complete noob, falling off, trying to avoid people, and never quite managed to sort the braking out either. The race carried on in the same vein, and after falling off multiple times my level of enjoyment had completely vanished and decided to quit in frustration.

Dont know if it was just the cars or the track :'(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Legzy on December 12, 2011, 01:46:37 PM +0000
Same problem as Spanner, but worse I think.
I tried my usual F430, then the BMW because it's born to turn corners (but not here apparently) & lastly the Viper. They all just understeered off at every turn. After 50 mins driving, I'd not completed a lap & was quite frustrated.
I'd made all of them massively more oversterry setup wise than I would normally drive with, but it had little effect. So I restarted my PC in hope it would help. Nope!

It was just not drivable, so I exited out & tried iRacing to check if it was a proper problem with my G25. Worked perfectly! ???

I really have no idea what was going on with GTR2. It was like the wheel was turning half of what i wanted & was delayed doing it >:(, but I've made no changes to my wheel for a couple of months & it was fine last week ???.

Nice to see the good turnout, shame I couldn't be part of it.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Truetom on December 12, 2011, 03:16:58 PM +0000
If I could make Viper turn, so could you. ;) Have never ever said no to anyone wanting a setup. :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Legzy on December 12, 2011, 06:04:02 PM +0000
That's the problem, it wasn't setup TT. I made it stupidly oversteery (on paper) & still it just kept understeering off or occaisionally treated me to a shock spin ::)

Don't know what was wrong. Hope it's back to normal next week. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: Mark J on December 12, 2011, 07:44:18 PM +0000
was it the cold track temperatures? It was making the track very understeery, especially in the tight corners.  I had real problems getting any heat in the tyres, front or rear despite messing about with pressures.

I'd only managed about an half hour practise session before this race on sunday afternoon, so got what i deserved in terms of pace, but enjoyed the racing fix all the same.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 15 Lower Endurance (GTC) - Road America (Full) - Dec 11
Post by: H@L9000 on December 13, 2011, 02:22:07 PM +0000
Hello everyone, new guy here.  I have been practicing for this race, but at an average lap of 2:20, I will not be attending this one.  I have been playing this game with assists, and have learned that it is a whole different game on simulation.   ;D  I did want to drop a line here and introduce myself.  I will continue to hit the tracks and, hopefully  join you guys in some races soon.

Welcome.

The GTC class is a good place to start. I recommend trying the Z4 if you have not already. It is very stable making it easier to get to grips with. Our next race with the GTC class will be Sunday the 8th Jan at Laguna Seca.

You could also see how you do with practise at the LeMans track in a GT2. We will be having a race at LeMans on 1st Jan. It will be a multi class race but, with the big long straights, allowing cars to pass is easier than it is on other tracks.

Hope to see you on the track soon. :)