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Practice: ~19:40 (60 mins)
Qualifying: RANDOM GRID
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Track: Old Ring Park Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg128898#post_oldringpark)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 250 GTO Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_f250gto), TVR Griffith 400, Lotus Elan

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: 2x

Server: simracing.org.uk LCMT
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

Planning to race here.  :thumbup1: Tony good news Norton has learnt I want to download from Amazon S3 and only gave an amber warning with the option to run anyway.  :yes:  Hopefully next time it won't even do that.  :rockon:

It's a fast circuit and quite easy to learn. If anyone wants to suggest other cars to take part, I'm more than happy to see if they compare. Not the Porsche 904 unfortunately. It's minute fuel consumption makes it a real pain to add to events with pit stops.

After a bit of practice 32 laps seems too much for a 60 minutes race. At my average pace 32 laps would be about 70 or so minutes. With tyre degradation slowing you down as well it would be even longer.
My best lap times so far were in 2.13 range. Even if fastest guys can go under 2.10 over a single lap, it still a few laps too long.

Thanks Syd. Thought I'd sorted this but it may of slipped my mind e.g. mean't to do it but haven't. Let me run a few test's and I'll post back here in about an hours time.

EDIT: Number of laps has been reduced.

I'm yet to learn the track, but would it be necessary to make pitstops for fuel? I better practice those if so.

Gonna get some practice today and If im happy then I will partake in this race if that is ok with you guys.

Pit stops will be required

Ok I think I'm ready. A bit of a shock though. Breaks, steering and handling totally different to GTR2 but I think I can get used to it.

I managed to get 2.15 on this track with the Lotus, I don't think I'll be able to use anything more powerful than that for a while and I won't be competitive with anybody but if that is ok with you guys then ill see you tonight.

Yep Syd that's the time I'm getting so I look forward to racing you mate .  ;)

Reminder about Pit procedures

It's been a while since we did pit stops in a race so I thought it might avoid errors in the race if I mentioned a few points here.

• Make sure your AI is turned off (follow instructions in the first post)
• Make sure you have keys /controls assigned to the pit limiter and pit board commands(these are set up under controls in-game)
• When pitting engage the limiter before the pit entry lights
• The fuel shown on your pitboard is the amount currently in your car and not the amount that the pit crew will put in your car
• When your pit stop time is shown you can leave your box but put the limiter on again or you will get a stop/go penalty
• Turn off the limiter once you have cleared the pit lane exit lights or any lines across the lane

Finally, practise a couple of stops if you can just to get the hang of it. Approach your pit crew chief slowly and you should box OK. Otherwise reverse up a bit and try again.

Game froze when Tibernius joined.
Cannot rejoin the game - freezes again when Tibernius is loaded.

Which car are you using?


Seems that I have to miss another one. Unable rejoin the game. Tibernius can't be loaded  ???


Hope that I sorted it out - Elan skins from the skinpack were not installed  ::)

That was a 26 lap race, why "red mist" at T1.  I braked early to allow for people in front bunching up and somebody gave me clout up the back, there were cars everwhere off track.  When I tried to rejoin clouted again.  Ended up facing wrong way with cars coming at me so quit.

Could have been worse I suppose.

As Bill said there were a few of us got taken out at turn 1 I'm not too bothered though accidents happen, after that got into a bit of a rhythm and settled down until I had a few spins (one of which was due to a kamakazi Guinea Pig running along the track) :-)

Thought that the car was ok but soon became almost uncontrollable due to suspension damage so I pitted in on lap 11 or so cost me over 2 mins (forgot to add fuel) DUH. I thought I would wait till it gave me the message saying I was low then I was going to pit and add some, but I didn't know there is no audible warning and I saw the gauge was just about empty as I passed the pit lane then at the end of that lap ran out on the hairpin right. Sorry If I held someone up there.

Happy enough for my first race with you guys.

See you for the next one hopefully :-)

Same here but fortunately was able to go on racing in usual last place

I did the same as Bill (and Henry just behind me) slowed well in advance of the hump before the first turn. There were cars falling off the track all over the place. Like Bill say's "Why?" It was always going to be a long race.  ::)

ooo I managed to finish 11th and 16th lol

Results and replay now posted.

I don't know why Quicksilver appears two times  ???  I'll look into fixing that later.

Thanks to everyone who turned out.  :punk:

Well, looks like I did get disconnected. Wondered why there wasn't anyone at the finish line after the race. ::)

he changed his profile during practice and you took the times from practice.

shame that i couldn't race. got to go.

Totally agree with what Bill said, what's with the suicidal driving after the start, people? You don't win on lap 1, but you sure lose it. I kept it cool and calm after the start, perhaps I was lucky GTL put me on the front row, and then people were going off all around me, but fortunately I was not hit by anyone. There was someone challenging me after a lap, but he too went too hot on the brakes into T1 and off into the grass.

From there on I kept increasing the pace gradually and improved my lap time consistently, posting fastest lap for 5 laps in a row or so. That was enough to build up a comfortable gap over 2nd place, but I also had an off which cost me a couple of seconds, but nothing major. I had filled the fuel tank to its limit and it was enough to do 16 laps, with the tires almost gone by then. I pitted and I don't know why but the pitstop took 51 seconds, dropping me to 3rd place. On the next lap those in front of me pitted as well, so I was back in front, but it seems they had much quicker stops as 2nd place was now just under 30 seconds behind me, as opposed to over 40 before my stop.

I pushed really hard because I wanted to do a very fast lap, and managed to produce one that felt quite good, but then the tires immediately lost performance and I could never get close to it again. I had a scare with a backmarker who spun in front of me, but we managed to avoid each other. Grats all who finished!

Ahh yeh. Last night when I checked it was showing just Quicksilver384 but now 16th is showing GTL_Quicksilver384

Was fun though frustrating. I took the Elan because (having practiced the wrong track...)
I was faster in it than the Ferri, was expecting the Trevor to need more fuel and eat tyres
so avoided him. Saw some brightly coloured vehicle coming in too fast to make the corner from
behind at T1 so went on the grass to drive round the melee. I think it may have been the
same brightly coloured vehicle that punted me in to the fence hard later in the race.
Ah well, car was damaged but drivable, became less so  with low fuel an I fell off every
couple of laps. After pits was easier to drive, 95 secs damage repair so opted not to, and not
enough laps left to do much, so chased Tony, who very politely gave me an easy pass by
falling off  ;D

Oh, and what a superb track it is. I joined the online prac and was on one of the eastern european
tracks I can't remember the name of, I had a gdb mismatch so race night I reinstalled and joined
the race to find I was on a completely different track  :o

Congrats to podium finishers. What an insane fastest lap Hristo.
I got 13th of 14 places at the start. Since I was in a ferrari, I got by a couple Elans before T1 when when I saw cars going all over the place there. One reason could be, people of very different speeds were thrown close together by random grid. Random can be fun, but it requires a lot more careful driving into T1. Anyway, on the other side of T1 esses I was in 4th, and soon even in second. After a couple of laps of fighting, Ade and Geoffers were through, and I was back in 4th. By that time Mark was behind me, but had a mistake somewhere and I had a over 10 second lead on him. From that point I settled down, and kept driving towards inevitable pitstops. I had fuel for about 14.5 laps, so stopped at the end of lap 14. I saw the front tires were pretty spent, but rears were only used up maybe a third of the thread at most. So I fueled 80 liters and changed only fronts. As soon as I was out, I saw my mistake, I put too little fuel, was half a lap short (xd information) of race distance. Now I would need to short shift to save fuel for the rest of the 12 laps. But I thought I had good lead on Mark, somehow 15 second lead before pits was turned into 30 second lead. But I was also jumped by Henry, who went from 20 seconds behind to 10 ahead. I don't about others, but I don't do so well when I'm intentionally trying to take it easy. That's when mistakes happen. Couple that with my failing rear tires toward the end, and I had two big spins losing over 20 seconds, giving away my 4th place.
In the end I barely made it to the finish, my engine cutting off before t1 after finishing line.

I didn't change tyres Hristo, so that is why your stop probably took longer than mine.

Started 12th on the grid & was a bit slow away but passed a couple of Elans before T1. Braked in plenty of time & had people coming past me on both sides only to end up off the track  :o. Fortunately no one hit me & I picked my way through the melee & came out in 5th place.

Made a mistake on lap 2 which let Ade through & then followed him for several laps as we got up to 2nd & 3rd well behind the flying Hristo! On lap 13 Ade went off at T1 handing me 2nd place & then pitted at the end the lap. Must have had some problem Ade, as you were still there when I came around next lap  :-\.

Pitted on lap 16 & only took on fuel as the tyres didn't seem too bad. Came out still in 2nd, 30s behind Hristo & 10s ahead of Henry, both gaps got bigger as the race wore on & I came home 2nd with the tyres pretty well finished.

Congrats to Hristo & Henry & well done to all that finished. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Grats Hristo  :thumbup1: Geoffers & Henry  :thumbup2:

Practice:
Did'nt know this track & car choice said Lotus - the only one I knew I had been running at Snetterton & therefore had setup. Setup was useless for this track & I split an ELAN setup completely from the Online Folder, but never got the rear end to hold firm.

Race:
Wildly exciting raffle starting place, a place I knew would not hold back, especially with the pit stop is certainly not my strong point. Entertaining race...until I got the first bumps, the car became even harder to keep in turns. Many things happen in this race, but 2 things I remember most is Mark (I hope you had fun just like me with tight race ;D) ...& unfortunately a mistake on my part. Spins around in T'last, Henry looks close out at grass, I pull into & discover too late that Henry is going on inside...damn, I hit a Team mate  >:(

Green Light:
For discussion of T'1 crash, I give right to be careful...but for me starts a race at the green, no matter where I start from. Since we are a restless mixed field & running with our own style of driving (each with their braking point, some might not) in my opinion it will never be avoided & that is part of the race. Nobody does it on purpose (I hope) but back on the horse...there is a new race tomorrow.  8)

  ??? I was in a bit of a quandary for this one, do I drive the fractionally slower Lotus that will probably do the race on one set of tyres, or drive the 250 GTO what just sounds fantastic and with my set up eats rear tyres? The beautiful engine noise won out ;D

I started mid grid and due to some errors from Halley whom got a Fernando Alonzo start and flew up the field and then hit Effeblitz causing a major fall off.  :(  I managed to miss the carnage and gaining a sweet P3  :) then P2 when Pelle went off.  :o  Gobsmacked and wildly excited to be gaining on Hristo at the end of lap 1 and managing to get up the inside down the straight into the T1 complex. Unfortunately Mr brain was not fully engaged at this point snd I mistook T1 for T2 braking to late and not changing down to 2nd.....Exit Cinderby stage left   ;D (sorry if I scared you Hristo.....heat of battle and all that)  ;D

More cocks later and I had a catastrophe in the chicane ending In a spin and dropped to P6. Car was ok though and drove hard back to P5 involving a great little game with Pelle called who can go off the most number of times in the most comical way!!  :) ;D ;D.

I only had one ace left up my sleeve and that was the pit stop.............I ran the car on a full tank during practice and found it would do 17 laps on a tank (not being caught out by that bastard GT6 like last week)  ;D Anyways pitted on lap 18 splashed some fuel in and changed my now worn out tyres.  8) The car was transformed..... I was 35 sec's down on Syd in P4........I pushed and pushed and got a PB of 2.11.1............Syds car was obviously not good because I made up the time in leaps & bounds and eventually passed him.  ;) Finished P4.

Congrat's to Hristo, Geoffers and Henry you all drove a great race.....How H got a 2.07 I will never know!!

PS Did the tyres last the race for the Lotus boys?  ???

They were fine for me, just put some fuel in at the stop, although I was driving on my own at that point so it could be it wasn't wearing the tyres properly. ???

Ahh, that explains it. I really have to install some addon to show me exact tire wear and fuel amount. I was worried I might get a puncture, so I opted to change all tires. Also, in all the hurry to fuel up, I didn't notice where it shows you how long the pitstop is going to be in advance. Didn't practice pitstops as I said I would, so my fault on that one.

It helps if you have 3 heads, 6 arms & 8 feet!!!!! ;D

Or just use all the road width and bit beyond (always 2 wheels on tarmac/curbs though).  ;) I think the key was (surprise surprise) braking early and carrying speed into corners, then accelerating early, but avoid sliding around. I couldn't even get close to that time though, next best was 2:08 I think.

I remember racing this track some 2-3 years back, possibly at GamersCrib, & there was a guy doing 2.09s in the Triumph TR4A, so there is certainly a lot of time to be gained if you know how!

 ;) ;) ;) Thanks Tib's that answers my question...........I should have driven the Lotus.  ;D........Ahhhh but I love this Ferrari  ::).

No you did the right thing Hristo my rears were shot and the fronts just in the green.  :)