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Title: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: G Jonsson on January 22, 2012, 11:45:51 AM +0000
WELCOME TO THE UKGPL SEASON 22 HISTORIC (66) TROPHY 

For the forth round we go to Germany. On the Halle-Saale-Schleife track there are many small objects that can take your wheels away so be aware.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

The Red Zone is from start and until after the Kurve der Jugend

Reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying to allow full timers to join.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

Best of luck.
 
Race List =         iGOR
Server =            UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address =       62.149.202.168
Race date =       24-01-2012
Time =              Race start 21.30 UK time
Track =             Halle-Saale-Schleife  1952   Meisterschaftslauf der DDR
Variant =           66F1 3L engines
Damage Model =  PRO
Qualifying time =  >30 minutes. You are free to start as soon as the server is up but reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying to allow full timers to join.
Race length =     Pro Long (28 laps)

The track can be downloaded from: http://andre-gpl-texture.speedgeezers.net/ (http://andre-gpl-texture.speedgeezers.net/)

The cars:

Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford
T1G Eagle Weslake

Group II
Lotus 43 BRM   
BRM P83


GroupIII
Ferrari 312
Brabham BT19
Cooper T81
Honda RA273


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I

svenvangent



Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II or Group I

Al Heller



All other drivers have free chassis choice.



Password: See above
(2) Driver lists can be found here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=339&theme=6 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=339&theme=6)










Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2012, 08:47:01 AM +0000
Aaaaaaaaarrrggh!! where did this race come from???? :o :o :o    Must check race posts more often :o

A new circuit for me and I won't be able to practice until I get home this evening!! It looks a simple layout but as usual with anything that looks easy..it probably isn't!!!  :-\

What sort of lap times are you guys getting so that I know how depressed to get when I try and learn the track.  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: s2173 on January 24, 2012, 09:18:55 AM +0000
I can do 1.48... decent laptime should be 1.47, the pole will probably be 1.46... and that nasty flatout chicane will take out the half of the field... damn hard track, but I like it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: bernie on January 24, 2012, 10:51:55 AM +0000
Aaaaaaaaarrrggh!! where did this race come from???? :o :o :o    Must check race posts more often :o

A new circuit for me and I won't be able to practice until I get home this evening!! It looks a simple layout but as usual with anything that looks easy..it probably isn't!!!  :-\

What sort of lap times are you guys getting so that I know how depressed to get when I try and learn the track.  :-[

We did this recently in a "fun" race so some of us have an edge there  ;D


So far i've managed to burst through the sub 1:55 barrier , mostly going backwa4rds , not much track to learn, it's mostly straight ,  a nice change from the helter skelter of St Jovite  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2012, 11:00:42 AM +0000
At least I can use the awesome Wazamobile, ;) so I might have a setup that is somewhere near useable as a starting point.

1:48-1.46's's eh? ...a quick check on the GPL rank track records shows those times as WR level !! 

Are you guys on steroids or other performance enhancing drugs???? or.. has the level of competition in UKGPL reached ramped up a notch or two ???  :eek:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: s2173 on January 24, 2012, 11:16:02 AM +0000
Or, more likely, none of the fast guys bothered to drive the track seriously with 66... I guess 1.54 or 53 would be possible, lol. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: s2173 on January 24, 2012, 10:07:36 PM +0000
Im definetly driving way above my ability here... whole minutes, fill with total, addrenaline fulled concentration, the heart beating line drum in my ears... I cant complete whole race like that. In practice I did a laptime, wonderfully amazing by my standarts... When I got out of car, my hands were trembling... alot. In race... I was runing third, second even, with guys I shouldnt even see a glimpse of... For four laps, I could barely hear the engine from my pulse... and it was obvious it would end in dissaster. A disaster - as usialy for me - totaly patethic and unexquisable.

Well, I dont have a wheel, so I cant say my brake pedal broke... I simply forgot all about the braking zone. And tapped Raoni in the process... i think he managed to continue, luckily. Yeah.... Sorry, again...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: EvilClive on January 24, 2012, 10:36:36 PM +0000
You were definitely quick Sky but I think your nervousness showed. Your car was very twitchy and you appeared to be very close to the limit. ( but I bet it felt good!!!)

But, what it shows is that you CAN drive at that pace  ;), what you now have to do is control yourself and try and get your mind into a relaxed state, just concentrating on your braking points and apexes. Once you learn to control yourself the driving is easy. ::)

Of course the Wazas have an advantage with all the Zen mind control that we practice  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: BadBlood on January 24, 2012, 11:15:46 PM +0000
With my Zen training I calmly bagged some points and threatened to do a sub 2:00 lap several times ;)

On lap 17 I took a slightly wider line and followed the track down the armco without touching. Sadly there is a bug in the track and one of my wheels fell off.... briefly considered continuing as it wouldn't affect my pace much ( ;D) but flames in my mirrors dissuaded me...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: bernie on January 24, 2012, 11:57:27 PM +0000
Danged eyetallyan machine handled like a shopping trolley with race gas , tripped over the railway lines , got lost , drove half a mile on the grass (in the wrong direction ) , re joined the track then got a DQ  ::)

thought this feature was disabled for UKGPL races ?

steering geometry was bent after my "Off" , ran on at reduced pace hoping to pick up a finish , but ran out of luck about lap 10 and lost a wheel  :'(

Decided to spectate for a while as it seemed much safer watching the fun (thanks Paul )  :D  though the few cars remaining seemed well spread out , not a track I particularly enjoy  :-\

Grats to all who finished  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: BadBlood on January 25, 2012, 01:22:04 AM +0000
No wonder I was slow! I was carrying passengers! LOL


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: bernie on January 25, 2012, 11:05:21 AM +0000
No wonder I was slow! I was carrying passengers! LOL

I was urging you on mostly and I really did want to change gears for you  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: BadBlood on January 25, 2012, 12:07:48 PM +0000
ho ho. Any tips would be appreciated.

It was funny really because on the last corner I was finally feeling a bit confident and I tried to go through flat out with justa dab of the brakes to rotate around the polos. Oops!

The gear changing was really tough for me because I am having MAJOR PC problems at home (I have to replace the motherboard :() so I don't have any sound so the only cues for changing were the rev counter and the ffb from the wheel. It is REALLY hard to look at the rev counter when your mirrors are full and the blue flag is in full bloom :D

Still, I enjoyed it. Really should have done some practice but as I say my PC is a bit hit and miss at the mo.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: Al Heller on January 26, 2012, 03:17:59 PM +0000
After blowing a few engines & sucking a few polos during practice, I decided on a softly-softly-catchee-monkey approach here. Took it very easy during the opening phase & was pleased to find myself behind my teammate King Hiro during the opening laps of the race, as this helped me find a decent race rhythm at a fairly unfamiliar track. Andrea was several seconds behind & we seemed to be maintaining a nice gap but after some delays in traffic, Andrea was suddenly right on my tail. This was the start of an intense battle which lasted the whole race - Andrea passed me pretty quickly but thanks to the slipstream I was able to sit on his tail & try to work out where I might attempt to snatch back the place. Andrea was always very fair & I had numerous runs at him going into the T1 hairpin but to no avail. With retirements ahead we soon found ourselves fighting over a podium place & I intensified my attempts to get past, though at the same time was mindful not to take any silly risks. Towards the end I did finally manage to get past at T1 but then immediately overcooked it at T2 in all the excitement & Andrea was able to nip straight back past :P. Then on the last lap I got a good drag out of the penultimate corner & we headed down to the chicane side by side... I was briefly tempted to keep my foot in but I wasn't quite sure where Andrea was & after such a great fight the last thing I wanted to do was run him off the road.

Congrats to Clive on the win & condolences to Goran who deserved better after such a dominant showing.     


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: fpolicardi on January 26, 2012, 04:41:21 PM +0000
I lost connection to the server at the end of qualy, unable to rejoin in time for start  :(
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: bernie on January 26, 2012, 10:27:46 PM +0000
Wondered what happened to you Fulvio , it sucks when that happens  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 30, 2012, 10:43:55 PM +0000
Gutted I missed this.  I was all set to join the server but I couldn't.  I had the same message I had last time I tried to join a 66mod race on T7_2.  I was not qualified to enter the race.  I've had this before when we were testing the 60fps patch.  I was given a lot of good advice but I didn't get it sorted out.  I managed to join another server that was running the 66mod, I just couldn't join T7_2.  In desperation I rebooted by router and that was when things went from  bad to worse.  My router refused to reconnect to the internet and I've been off line completely for the last 5 days while my ISP sorted things out.  The problem was eventually traced to something at the exchange.

I'm not aware of any 66mod patches I need to apply so I don't know why I can't connect to T7_2.  The only other thing I can think of is the rasteriser.  I was using OpenGL V2 when I couldn't connect.  I don't know if this is significant or not.  It would be helpful if we could run a test session for the 66mod on T7_2 sometime before the next Historic round.  If I don't get my problem sorted I'll have to miss the rest of the Historic season  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: G Jonsson on January 31, 2012, 12:32:24 AM +0000
Gutted I missed this.  I was all set to join the server but I couldn't.  I had the same message I had last time I tried to join a 66mod race on T7_2.  I was not qualified to enter the race.  I've had this before when we were testing the 60fps patch.  I was given a lot of good advice but I didn't get it sorted out.  I managed to join another server that was running the 66mod, I just couldn't join T7_2.  In desperation I rebooted by router and that was when things went from  bad to worse.  My router refused to reconnect to the internet and I've been off line completely for the last 5 days while my ISP sorted things out.  The problem was eventually traced to something at the exchange.

I'm not aware of any 66mod patches I need to apply so I don't know why I can't connect to T7_2.  The only other thing I can think of is the rasteriser.  I was using OpenGL V2 when I couldn't connect.  I don't know if this is significant or not.  It would be helpful if we could run a test session for the 66mod on T7_2 sometime before the next Historic round.  If I don't get my problem sorted I'll have to miss the rest of the Historic season  :(

I think that your problem, or at least part of it, was that the T7_2 server, when I first set it up, was in 60fps for the 66 mod. When I started it I did not notice because it does not show in the remote starting. When I myself got the message that I was not qualified to enter the server when I tried to, I immediately knew what was wrong and went in and changed it but I guess that you had rebooted yourself out of connection by then.

If you have the time before the Watglen race Feb 7, I can set up the server for a short testrace to make sure that you can join.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: fpolicardi on January 31, 2012, 09:56:27 AM +0000
Sry for that Phil, I was sure to have reset the 60fps patch on T7 server after the last F2 race. Anyway a good advice for who starts the server is to start always from GEM+ and select the right mod and player before hit Igor green button so GEM rebuilds all the exe.
Ciao

Gutted I missed this.  I was all set to join the server but I couldn't.  I had the same message I had last time I tried to join a 66mod race on T7_2.  I was not qualified to enter the race.  I've had this before when we were testing the 60fps patch.  I was given a lot of good advice but I didn't get it sorted out.  I managed to join another server that was running the 66mod, I just couldn't join T7_2.  In desperation I rebooted by router and that was when things went from  bad to worse.  My router refused to reconnect to the internet and I've been off line completely for the last 5 days while my ISP sorted things out.  The problem was eventually traced to something at the exchange.

I'm not aware of any 66mod patches I need to apply so I don't know why I can't connect to T7_2.  The only other thing I can think of is the rasteriser.  I was using OpenGL V2 when I couldn't connect.  I don't know if this is significant or not.  It would be helpful if we could run a test session for the 66mod on T7_2 sometime before the next Historic round.  If I don't get my problem sorted I'll have to miss the rest of the Historic season  :(

I think that your problem, or at least part of it, was that the T7_2 server, when I first set it up, was in 60fps for the 66 mod. When I started it I did not notice because it does not show in the remote starting. When I myself got the message that I was not qualified to enter the server when I tried to, I immediately knew what was wrong and went in and changed it but I guess that you had rebooted yourself out of connection by then.

If you have the time before the Watglen race Feb 7, I can set up the server for a short testrace to make sure that you can join.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Historic (66) - Halle-Saale - Jan 24
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 31, 2012, 06:04:30 PM +0000
I think that your problem, or at least part of it, was that the T7_2 server, when I first set it up, was in 60fps for the 66 mod. When I started it I did not notice because it does not show in the remote starting. When I myself got the message that I was not qualified to enter the server when I tried to, I immediately knew what was wrong and went in and changed it but I guess that you had rebooted yourself out of connection by then.
Ahh that was probably the reason.  When I started IGOR, the T7_2 server was already up but with about 40 mins left so I tried to join.  Probably at the same time you did.

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If you have the time before the Watglen race Feb 7, I can set up the server for a short testrace to make sure that you can join.
That would be helpful, probably best to do it on one of our race nights so that we don't clash with any other users of the server.