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UKGTL - Season 0-A (TC65) - Round 3 at Donington Park National

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Date: Wednesday 18th January

Practice 1: 8:30pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (25 mins)
Race: 9:10pm (30 mins - 20 laps)

Cars allowed: Any TC65 Class car.
Track: Donington Park National
Time of Day Setting: 10:00

Server: SimRacing.co.uk (UKGTL)
Password: usual practice password (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929)

See UKGTL Season 0 Announcement post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1038.msg13732#msg13732) for extra information on Season 0.

I'm going to set my dedi server for practice on Tuesday night (for anyone who isn't running GT Sprint event)

I'm hoping to test my limit (so far only had 4) of clients, so i'll start with a limit of 10, and hopefully find out.

Depends on who turns up and what they want to do, but maybe a short race (no real testing for wednesdays event, so no advantages gained)

Start: 7:30pm (60 min practice for time to join) then maybe 15mins qualify and 10 lap race, or practice only if not enough to race.

SimRacing.org.uk_PRACT / usual practice password (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929).

Cheers Clarey.

Is this on ADSL with 256k Upload? If so you'll get 7.

Yep, i'll set it to 7 then, was being optimistic with 10 i guess.

Think I'll give this one a miss to give others a chance to race.

I'll see if I have the time to do laps in all cars again and report the times.

Thanks Ruskus.

Will hopefully make this one and will take a Falcon for a spin, don't think one has had a run in this mini series yet.

Raaaaar!

Will try this one and this time I'm not disconnecting to change graphics settings and returning to a full server, loool! Grrr

I got an upload of 1 MB now btw, how many players would that support? Providing I use it fully for GTL (or GTR for that matter) and not partly for pr0n  :o ;) :D

T

I'm disturbed. You're uploading pr0n?  :o

Think 1MB upload is good for about 10 players IIRC.

^ If that is troo, shouldn't 1MB upload be more than 10? I mean what kinda upload do the 32 player servesr have then?! LOL!

T

P.S. It's Antarctic home movies Aagramn, pretty hard to get on the net nowadays ;) :p

The XP Task Manager thingy shows the main server running an upload of around 1MB with 24 cars. Because there is more available bandwdith the lower latency of that will help to make the player numbers higher than a straight 1MB link. I'd expect you to get more than 10 tho.

Wouldn't that be nice, but no, I beleive 1Mb is only good for 10 people. You may be able to get a few more, need to be tried.

36 players needs a big connection but also a very good PC hence why the Picnic server can only run 24. It has tonnes of bandwidth but runs out of grunt and it's not exactly  a rubbish spec (P4 2.4) for a server. Will be interesting to see how much higher than 24 Picnic's will go for rFactor which is less CPU intensive.

What is the spec of your server at home?

I've had two excellent races so I will give someone else the opportunity to join the fun and sit this one out. Have fun   ;D.

Not a lot ;) Just my regular machine AMD 2400+ with 768MB ram. Used to work with about 10 peeps I think on a 0.7MB upload. Maybe I'll put it up for a couple of days sometime (when I'm out :)) for us to try. BTW, I wouldn't call a P4 2.4 high spec either, gaming wise it's about as good as an AMD running on 2.0 Ghz (mine) which is completely outdated now! * sniff * ;) :D

T

Okay, here I am again (some people sighing  ;))
These are my laps at Donington National.
2nd timed lap WITH a setup.

Abarth             1:28.386 (VERY bad lap time, I just throw that thing around too much. This time is nothing to aim for, but to beat by a mile  :D)
Alfa GTA          1:23.739 (Good lap time: 7th place on GTL rank, but my personal best is .200s better.)
Mini Cooper      1:24.860 (Not bad, but must be possible to be a bit faster)
Ford Falcon      1:24.157 (I was surprised by that time, didn't think that aircraftcarrier could go that fast)
Ford Mustang   1:24.377 (Not a bad time I think, great car to drive, might be my pick for tomorrow)
Lotus Cortina    1:24.258 (Not a good time, it can't be slower than the yank tanks)

Thanks Ruskus, that's really helpful :)

Thanks again Ruskus. The Falcon & Mustang are competitive at the faster tracks.

Tx Rus, always good to see times u can aim for. Although I seriously can't get near Sharks' time on And South?! Lol, tried for 35 laps or so, haha!

Am I allowed to take a Capri and pwomise not to use top gear? ;) :D

T

Lol I might just make his Abarth time in the Alfa  :P

From one extreme to the other for me, going from the Abarth at Anderstorp to the Mustang at Donington. Won't have time to practice so will find out how fast I can sling the beast around the craner curves tomorrow. Should be fun, the Mustang is a lot of fun even if it is a tank.

I actually prefer the Falcon to the Mustang, can't really feel a difference performance-wise but I just like the huuuge great wings :)

Hi all - time for me to make a post.
I have enjoyed the Season 0 races I did with you guys and this time I will also go for a different car. This time I have decided to go with the Falcon to keep Ruskus some company in the Aircraft carrier class ;D
Really like the track - I hope that it will run ok on my comp as the race will be held at night and my specs are not really up to that. I will have to drive without lights in any case, but that shouldnt be a big problem as the track is well visable (tried a run earlyer today).

Cheers PG

Even though I like Donny a lot, I will give this one a miss - let some of the other drivers in for a change!

I'm assuming 10:00 is in the morning rather than 10:00pm (22:00)?

Is that right?

Pops

The times are shown in 24hr clock format AFAIK so 10:00 would be morning time.

You can now turn back up all the graphics settings again  ::)

Yes this one is day time 10am (10:00).

Tomorrow's at Magny Cours Club is a Night race and I have to say the night racing is not nearly as dark as rFactor which is practically pitch black.

 ;D
Sorry for me being dimm and having brain farts - didnt acctually think of that ::)
I just have read that we are going to have one night race in the season and I assumed that it would be this one.

It also mullers my frame rates. :'(

Going to have to miss this one, have fun guys.

Just did some laps at Donny Nat. in my Falcon (the car of tonight) and drove a 1:23.599, which is almost a world record in the Falcon there. I wanted to post a screen, but I can't attach anything  :(

Oh man - you are extremly fast again.  :o
We will need to get you a caravan to hang behind your Flattop  ;D

A caravan behind an aircrafcarrier??? :P, better make that a battlecruiser  :). But Pero you did a 1:23.7xx yesterday, so assuming that my time is just an accident (which I probably will never drive again), it could all get very...very close again.

Hat's off to those times you posted Ruskus, couldn't get anywhere near them. Managed a 1:26.4 in the Mini.

BTW, your Mini time would put you 3rd on GTL Rank!

Best race so far in GTL for me.

Had a brilliant scrap with Dan Minton for almost the whole race, I think we were the top 2 Mini's - bumper to bumper over the finish line, really good fun as were very well matched :) I think we swapped places 3-4 times pretty cleanly  :D

I think my achilles heel in this game will be that starts, lost 4 places as everyone rocketed past me like they were catapulted :(

Great race this evening, it was fab to dice with so many different cars, and the track really suited the various cars too.

Qualied in 5th with a 1:25:2 , got pipped in dying secs by someone otherwise thought i had 4th...drat !

Race started well, didnt lose out on the start grid this time, was surprised to see all the falcons and stangs just blitz past me on the straight, i could do nothing until we got to the twistier bits.
Had a good tussle with Paul W for several laps in his falcon swapping places, until on turn 1 when i went to avoid his swinging rear end and managed to pull my steering wheel off the desk and knock the trackir off the monitor hence then having only a side window view and a grass trip  :o :'(, losing me 3-4 places too...D'oh !!
Got back on the pace after sorting myself out and caught a few cars to get back upto 7th closing on the duelling falcons in front of me until one went off at last corners, all the time watching someone closing on me behind. Then as i was just catching Matjas on last couple of laps, race ended and i got respectable 6th place.  8)
Top race.

Phew! What a great fun race that was. Got in at 9 after a 120 mile round trip and felt a bit frazzled but thought I'd give it a whirl anyway. I actually find the Falcon quite relaxing to drive once you get used the the sliding. Sideways action aside it's pretty predictable and stable under braking.
Qualified about 15 and jumped about 8 places at the start :) Could only match Madd and Sharks pace in front though and, once Madd unluckily spun later on settled into a Matjas/Shark sandwich for 4th.
The muscle cars are real contenders on the faster, more open courses it seems!

Wasn't going to race originally, but saw only 15 on the server just after 8:30. Joined in and kept an eye on the numbers, we didn't reach 24 until late in qualifying. Hope I didn't keep anyone out.

Ruskus & PG were in a class of their own, breaking into the high 1:22s, great driving. I was fairly high up the grid after banking a 1:25.7 in the Mustang early on, but couldn't improve my time as I kept meeting traffic, and several drivers pipped me at the end. Again, the start was very warpy. Think we should try the next race with the server set to 22 - as soon as one left the car in front of me stopped jerking so much.

Had a very good and clean scrap with Don for a few laps, where we swapped position before I finally found a way past.

Well that was pretty horrid, first when joining the server, I put in the password, and got sent to a totally different server with Dijon on! When I got in all was dandy, and I was posting times around 10th which was good considering I aint played this game for ages. Race start, didn't get off the line, and got booted from behind, probably my fault to be fair, there was a shed load of cars at the start doing quite crazy things, then all the cars disappeared, I pulled off the track to see if they'd come back, and they did  :( After that it was a pretty poor race, which was quite incident packed too, so I should have a decent incident report to PM in.

Fozz

I normally like the Mustang, but I hated driving it round Donington. Just horrible horrible understeer. Tried making the setup very oversteery but it was hardly making any difference. Managed to get something driveable and qualified ok on the grid. Sure I could have gone 2 or 3 seconds quicker in the Alfa though.

Start of race was very strange. Got a good start, not one of my usual stunners and as we climbed the hill after the old hairpin, the whole field just completely dissapeared for probably at least 5 seconds. When it came back there were cars I'm sure in different positions to where they were when the dissapearance happened. Hope I didn't hit anyone whilst you weren't there, but I couldn't see anything, thought I was going to get my first disco.

Anyway, bit of a barge past Madd-RIP and then 3rd place for the rest of the race. The Mustang seemed to get slower the longer the race went on, less fuel meant nothing to the lap time.

Replay and exports uploaded here (http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/).
Results not imported yet, some technical glitches.

Yeh it got seriously bad in the last 6 or so laps. no grip.

Best race so far on the fun side of things, Had a good battle with Matjaz Plotajs for the  first couple of laps then Popabawa caught me up and we had a great battle for most of the race which was quite clean but i think we swapped paint a couple times. Got a bit lucky when Popabawa got held up going into Goddards chicane by one of the falcons and managed to just hold on. ;D  Made an error when i hit "Barred" whilst lapping him coming out of redgate ,soz mate bad judgement on my behalf.
P.s the top two times in quali were crazy fast!!!! :o

Enjoyable race for me, no incidents to report (hope i didn't cause any too)

Starts aren't my strong point so did 1 qual lap and stuck it at the back(ish), made a couple of places at the start but went off the outside of T1, roughly to the back again.

Had a good race with RSms Barred for 21st position, and was abale to pull away once i stopped making mistakes:)  Then caught Jamera after a spin, and had a good battle for a lap or so until.............3 stop-go's ;D
First for a cut track to avoid running into Jam, then speeding in the pit lane (took the limiter off too soon :() returning from previous stop-go:( then cut track again:(

Finished +2laps, in the pit lane:D

A good lesson, and experience for me.

Did some practice this afternoon and did a 1:23.599 and thought that was fast, until PG told me he did a 1:23.2xx  :(. In the qually I drove a high 22er thinking I've got pole, just to see PG take pole half a minute later (nice time PG) :D.
I had a bad start and lost a place, but soon retook it. Was behind PG for half the race until he mad a tiny mistake leaving a small gap for me. In lap 10 I got my 2nd warning so that freaked me out, and the tires were burning up fast. So at the end I was not able to do anything and PG was really pushing me. I could just hold him off, if he'd past me I would not have been able to take him back.

Well got 3rd on the grid and it went downhill after that. :( I screwed up YET AGAIN. I just can't seem to get in the damn points,  :-\ hmm yes shark you did 'rub' me but I eventually started to match your pace and even began to start closing a little, then what did I do, that godamn bloody magnetic grass got me  :'( , managed to glance the tyre wall but car seemed to drive like a bag of C**P after, then with 2 laps to go I totally missed the braking point into the final chicane,think I may have nearly taken out pops and Minton I believe  :-[ , when trying to rejoin.
Really sorry for that guys.

No worries Madd.  :) ive just watched the replay and your car was wrecked,LOL


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I love Donington usually but not in a Mini, starting near the back of the grid I was unable to gain much compared to the twisty tracks.

I nearly abandoned the race after hairpin lap1 as I thought everyone had gone for good, drove half a lap alone very gingerly untill a Cortina materialized in front of me and I knew the race was on ;D

When the two desperatly fast Falcons appeared in my mirror so quick I slid of on Redgate, but rejoined ok, best bit was gradually overhauling Fozz at the end as his tyres burned away.

Another great race with a great battle between me and Ruskus. Sadly couldnt get him at the end - was quite a bit faster though as I kept my tires alive. The last chicane was crazy close and I almost got us both out - just few cm of space remained. I got to keep the concentration up in the middle of the race as it has been the third time now that I lost the position due to a small stupid mistake - I keep looking to much to the back at the wrong times.

Joined in a Mustang, like Shark said, it's hard to put a nose into the bend, set up to overstear or not. My problem was 10 fps, don't know why, never experienced this in previous races in GTR, rFactor or even GTL. I was trying hard, then missus pulled some tricks on me and I went to race with her instead. Can't say I'm sorry, as she was more oversteary than a Mustang  ;D

FWIW, I didn't have any of the 'disappearing cars' issues on lap one.

I had one tiny bit of lag (I think as someone left), otherwise a very stable race.

Don't forget, if you have the time please submit incident reports to Gizmo for moderation...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1101.0

Server replay time of incident per incident is very useful so they can find the incident easily.

Thanks.

What's the forum name of the person who raced as "Lightnin!"? I need to know to import the results properly...

I didnt suffer from the disapearing cars early on. The only time it happened to me was when i was closing fast on Dan Mintons mini in craner curves, he seemed to inexplicably slow in the flat our part and just as i thought i was going to run into him at full speed, his car disapeared and re-appeared behind me  :o Dont know if he had gone off onto grass or something?

Could be a handy warp weapon i have bolted onto the front of my Alfa  ;)

Bah, virtually stopped on the long straight to let the leaders through unhindered, didn't think i'd have to pay for it. No I'm not bitter   :D

The only time it happened to me was when i was closing fast on Dan Mintons mini in craner curves, he seemed to inexplicably slow in the flat our part and just as i thought i was going to run into him at full speed, his car disapeared and re-appeared behind me Shocked Dont know if he had gone off onto grass or something?

My game just froze for second and you went through . Felt a bit hard done by even though you were quicker so tried to get you at the chicane which was a bit of a naughty move but we both scrambled out of it.

FWIW also, didn't suffer from any disappearing or warping cars but did get a noticeable stutter when someone left mid race.

I saw that Fozz, you in the green Mustang. I'm gonna thank everybody agin for fair behaviour while they were being lapped. I wanted to say thank you in race, but sadly that wasn't allowed which gave me some guild feeling.
What you did Fozz was very..VERY fair, you slowed down alot. As long as I know that people saw me coming, and they know they are gonna be lapped, I'm fine with it. No need to make crazy moves to make room, als long as there are no fighting manouvres (like in the Anderstorp race half-way).
So once more, thanks for the fair racing.

I didn't honestly see me changing position forward or backward... If I was 5-10 seconds behind someone and gaining, I'd obviously loose as little as possible, knowing also that the person infront would probably be more polite also. So its swings and roundabouts.

Hi Guys,

I to had some Lag last night (So far I have had some sort of Lag in each of the tests), can not say when it was but it happened 2 times in race, not at the start though and I do not think it was when peoples left the game.

Could I suggest we do our next test race with 22 players and see if that makes any difference? Just a suggestion.

Cheers

[RSms]BigG