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Title: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Ross Neilson on February 03, 2012, 05:04:08 PM +0000
The Works drivers return to Europe for the fifth round of the series at Zolder in Belgium. Joe continued his winning run and holds a good lead in the points standings, can anyone challenge the might of Beefpie this time?

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_GPG
IP address62.195.32.131
Date05-02-2012
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackZolder (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3147)
Mod67
Damage modelPRO
Race length32 laps

Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes, to allow full timers to join.

The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of T4, Lucien Bianchi Bocht. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.

The chassis token system is explained on the Works (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=337&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Ross Neilson on February 03, 2012, 05:10:04 PM +0000
Highlights of the 1979 Belgian Grand Prix at Zolder are available here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8940099.stm


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: fpolicardi on February 04, 2012, 06:27:05 PM +0000
GPG server is set for 32 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: john roberts on February 04, 2012, 07:31:59 PM +0000
pity your not running this version of zolder

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7799

Grand Prix Legends - Zolder 1967 - Promotion Movie


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Ross Neilson on February 04, 2012, 08:57:59 PM +0000
GPG server is set for 32 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
Ciao

Thanks Fulvio.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Cookie on February 05, 2012, 11:49:24 AM +0000
pity your not running this version of zolder

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7799

Grand Prix Legends - Zolder 1967 - Promotion Movie

Is it published yet?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Baab on February 05, 2012, 12:14:02 PM +0000
Can the praccy server be resurrected?

Cheers,

Bob.

P.S What are peoples times thus far, I can just manage 1:30s


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Michael Turner on February 05, 2012, 12:22:29 PM +0000
pity your not running this version of zolder

http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7799

Grand Prix Legends - Zolder 1967 - Promotion Movie

Great video - it's just a pity they had to ruin it by slapping that hideous 'music' on top of the graphics. I've never understood why so many video makers feel compelled to add a piece of music (whether rock, pop, jazz or classical) that is completely unrelated to what is happening on the screen. It's one thing to cut a video to a music track but in most cases, as here, the music seems to be stuck on as an afterthought.
This video would have been much better and more immersive if we could just listen to the sounds of the cars.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: fpolicardi on February 05, 2012, 06:31:31 PM +0000
Sorry, I can't race tonight, I've got a bad flou  :(
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: BadBlood on February 05, 2012, 06:41:10 PM +0000
Can the praccy server be resurrected?

Cheers,

Bob.

P.S What are peoples times thus far, I can just manage 1:30s

Yes... about 2 minutes!  :D

@FP: Hope you get better soon mate.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on February 05, 2012, 09:56:33 PM +0000
After a day of non-stop connection problems, I finally worked out that my router had lost the association between my PC and GPL, and re-associated the two. That was the connection sorted in time for the race, but it totally ****** up my prep for the race, with the result that I started the race with 4 laps fuel.

I wish I could laugh at what is my own stupid fault, but I'm just starting to wonder why I bother spending so much time doing this.

Hope my mood improves in time for next races...

A^3


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Beefpie on February 05, 2012, 11:26:48 PM +0000
Firstly I'd like to apologise to Ray (RonniePeterson) for taking him out of the race, I'd settled into something of a daze after knocking round by myself for quite a while, and my reactions were not at their sharpest when I ran into the back of him as he slowed to let me past. Unfortunately the end result was Ray winding up upside down, very sorry.  :-\

Pretty lonely affair overall, I was relishing the prospect of a good battle with Art after he took pole (and a lap record), unfortunately Art found himself in the gravel by the second corner. Bob put in a very good performance in the BRM and gave chase for quite a while, but he must've had a moment because he dropped back very suddenly.

Not much else happened, apart from a major lapse in concentration with 2 laps to go which saw me have a very big off, lucky not to hit any trees and bin the race there and then.

Thanks as always racers and organisers, I'm looking forward to Carthage, certainly one of the more unique circuits and also where I made my GPL league debut two years back. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: BadBlood on February 06, 2012, 08:21:03 AM +0000
Hope my mood improves in time for next races...

A^3

Well the extra points from the last round but one (Dragon's Nest) should help...

As always, replay is available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS22_js.htm). Just select the Graduates (Works) series. Analysis is available if you click on the Archive name.

That analysis is available directly from here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/archive/season22/analysis/S22_Grads_Works_R05_2012_02_05_Zolder/index.html).

The Replay .rar files are available here. (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/archive/season22/Grads_Works/S22_Grads_Works_R05_2012_02_05_Zolder.rar)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Artiglietti on February 06, 2012, 09:30:04 AM +0000
I wonder if anyone can help, I have a problem watching my replays, after a few minutes I regularly have a CTD and have to reload the game. I think it started popping up after I joined a few races via VROC, I suspect some file may be corrupted. Any idea of something I could try anyone? Reinstall for the replays is obviously out of question  ;) Thanks guys.

As for my race, rather disappointing of course. I had a few tenths in my pocket on the brabbys and quite a few more on the BRMs which I put to good use snatching pole. But that was all the good that came out of this race, as after the start, by making sure I was giving all the room to Joe on the inside at turn 1, I found myself off the line at turn 2. It is a sort of double apex turn, and in that position you need to be dead slow to make it round it, if it surprises you when suddenly you reach the second part you have already run out of road. Well, I had done precisely that mistake in a practice race trying to pull a pass on Al, and I thought I was going dead slow at the start of the real race. Not quite enough obviously.. ::) So hit the brakes in haste, spun, gravel, dead last from pole. Dont you just hate when it happens.. :hammer:

The low attendance, a couple of helpful guys at the back (thank you!), a couple of people spinning and a slide too many from Clive allowed me in fourth place by lap 4 or 5, reeling in fast on Al and Bob who were a few secs away. Joe was out of reach, but a podium still possible. But passing is not as easy as it looks like around here, as if you dont want to dive in one of the slow corners of sector 1, you need to put in the pass at turn 1 after the S/F straight, which includes a rather faithful close chase of the guy ahead through the flat out chicane, hoping you can gauge his sliding or confidence lifting to perfection. Unfortunately, that turned out to be an academic problem for me, as things panned out. I had had a lucky escape, hitting the inside at the fast left hander of S3 (the cursed Villeneuve bend, by the way), which had sent me around the trees on the outside, but in a couple of laps Al was already in sight again. Too much in sight at one point, as I turned in after the braking point of S3 just to stare straight into his big grin while he was waiting for me in his motionless car precisely on my trajectory. I suspect I must have seen something anomalous in the corner of my eye while braking for that corner, as my braking point was very marginal and I would have run wide anyway and maybe even kissed the barriers. Instead it was collision full on. No ones fault of course Al, actually it was avoidable had I been on a normal line for that bend!

Getting going again, I immediately realised the car was totally rubbished, not really straight on the straights, and very little collaborative in anything that went left. The right handed bits were not too bad, if a bit twitchy here and there. I seriously considered quitting, as plodding around with a broken charriot for half a race is really not my thing, but after a couple of laps of adjustments I realised I could keep up with Clive who was a few seconds behind, and with Al a few seconds ahead, so decided to soldier on, hoping in a mistake from the ones ahead which never came, but also taking my fourth finish in a row in the process. Which doesnt sound like a lot, but it is not bad at all considering I amassed no more than 10 mins racing in the first 3 races I did with pro rules  ;D ;D

Grats to SuperJoe and the quick podium. I would add grats to all finishers, but there were 5 of us! Not everyone is a fan of this track I can see, although I really liked it from the start, theres not an uninteresting corner, good racing possible but not too easy, really nice sweeping last section. Good choice whoever decided to introduce it at UKGPL.

Suppose that next round will be all about who explodes the last  ;D ;D See you there guys, thanks for the racing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: BadBlood on February 06, 2012, 10:46:04 AM +0000
Re the CTD art, I have found that the camera views can get corrupted. Have you changed them. You could always re-install the 67 version using the GPLPS beta 1.04 installer which is totally painless and gives updated tracks and rasterisers. That installer can be found here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Utilities/gplinstall_beta_1.04.exe)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Al Heller on February 06, 2012, 02:18:29 PM +0000
Very impressive times by the top 3 guys in qualifying - OK Zolder is criminally underused (perhaps the forthcoming graphics update will change that) but the top trio still claimed world records for their respective chassis, leaving me to line up in a distant 4th. With Joe doing a Vettel on us this season, I was rather hoping that someone would give him a race this time out :hammer: Art looked set to do just that from pole & it was a real pity that he went off on the opening lap.

Art's misfortune nonetheless promoted me to 3rd & I spent the first 10 laps or so tailing Bob who was moving that BRM far quicker than it had any right to go. Me & Bob seemed pretty evenly matched & I was plotting how I might get a run on him but then I had a problem lapping Hannah whose car was warping slightly - he'd pulled to the right to let me pass but warp made his car bunny-hop to the left & then just as I was about to dive inside on the run down to the chicane he disappeared completely :o By the time I'd tiptoed past, Bob was long gone & now I had Art to contend with all by myself. Judging by Art's qualifying pace this was set to be a very short battle, but his Ferrari suddenly disppeared from my mirrors going off at the fast lefthander after the long straight. Wondering if Art had incurred any damage, I tried to step up my pace & see if I could somehow increase the gap but my ambition soon outstripped my ability & I spun off into the haybales at Terlamenbocht :P. I was hoping that Art might catch a glimpse of some yellow flags & take a tight line to sneak through but unfortunately he crested the blind corner at full pelt & found me sitting serenely right in his path! To add insult to injury, the collision not only launched me back onto the track with no damage & facing the right way but mangled Art's Ferrari in the process... sorry Art! Having nobbled the opposition, I was left to cruise unchallenged to a richly-undeserved 3rd (yet almost threw that away with another spin late on). The only other incident of note was coming round the fast lefthander just as Hannah's Brabham rather comically plopped softly down from one of the treetops like an autumnal leaf!

Congrats to Joe yet again & to BRM-Bob.      


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: EvilClive on February 06, 2012, 03:46:21 PM +0000
Strangely this was also the first time I had ever raced at Zolder, although the track has been around for quite a while.

I did a few laps of practice on Saturday and soon discovered that none of my Honda setups suited this track. I concentrated on getting a working setup with race fuel, which proved to be the right decision as Art, Joe and Bob blitzed qualification with some stunning times.

I had hoped that a steady drive and natural attrition might gain me a few places and when Art chose to investigate the gravel at T2 and one or two other cars opted for scenic routes, I felt that things could work out.

But, Art recovered and hassled me in his much quicker Fez, until I ran wide and he went through and eased away. I was still running quite well and pressed on trying to maintain a reasonable pace.....there were still a lot of laps to go and plenty of opportunity for retirements  ::)

Suddenly Art was in sight and he appeared to be travelling more slowly than he had been, so I upped my pace slightly to try and catch him. Bad move!! I cooked the rear tyres and managed a 360 degree spin which allowed Art off the hook  :-\
It was about then that I did my customary fuel check at around half distance only to discover that at my current pace I would not make it to the flag!!....RATS!!!  So the rest of the race was done slightly short shifting until the last 3 laps when it looked extremely marginal :o so I cruised the last few laps and crossed the line with only 25psi of fuel pressure.

I was nowhere near the pace of Joe, Bob and co . In fact by the end of the race I was nowhere near anyone's pace except my own and barely that!!?  :-\

Grats to Joe on his record in 67's, he seems to have found the "groove".


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Ronniepeterson on February 06, 2012, 05:25:41 PM +0000
Firstly I'd like to apologise to Ray (RonniePeterson) for taking him out of the race, I'd settled into something of a daze after knocking round by myself for quite a while, and my reactions were not at their sharpest when I ran into the back of him as he slowed to let me past. Unfortunately the end result was Ray winding up upside down, very sorry.  :-\

No problem Joe and an apology after a coming together is always much appreciated regardless of who is at fault. The plan was let you pick your own speed and line down the straight but it was not to be. Maybe my Clark-Hill team mate would appreciate an incident report, to possibly narrow the points difference? Not from me, you fully deserved the win and I have no intention of spoiling your 100% win record on a technicality. It would be a travesty of justice. But come Carthage I and everyone else will be out to halt your winning streak at least.

Thanks again for the words above, not everyone finds it possible to apologise, maybe thats the sign of a true champion, we shall see?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Baab on February 06, 2012, 09:33:44 PM +0000
First time for me at Zolder too, though I am aware of the history of the place (vaguely!).  I wasn't sure how to play it, I had the 'cash' to buy summat quick and thought it may be worth a punt to try and win it.  I don't think it would have been, so am pleased to have shopped at Aldi!

Thanks for the praise for my lap times.  My qual lap was a pb, which I was pleased with but I was astounded at the pace of Attilio and Joe...very impressive  :notworthy:

However, come the race I knew it would be a struggle, hence was pleased to have a breather after about 10 laps with Al in reasonably close attendance.  I seemed unable to drive good lines through the 3rd and 4th turns, either missing the apex or turning too much then having to have a second go.  I struggle to concentrate for an entire race distance, also find it hard on the eyes (any chance of a mid race break?).  I had a couple of spins and a pretty good go on the wall in the turn before the straight, which amazingly didn't do any damage :whistling:

Joe was impressively fast and I forgot about him pretty soon and kept checking prib for the fast approaching Al and Atilio.  They seemed to advance in waves, but then I saw the gap suddenly increase and after another lap their charge ended.

A somewhat fortunate 2nd place, but once again that is racing and I'll take it  ;D 

Congrats to all finishers, slightly disappointed at the small field.

Cheers for the event, Bob.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: john roberts on February 06, 2012, 11:05:25 PM +0000
Very impressive times by the top 3 guys in qualifying - OK Zolder is criminally underused (perhaps the forthcoming graphics update will change that)

btw Al it's not a gfx update but "new" track (called zolder67)

john


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Doni Yourth on February 07, 2012, 12:12:55 PM +0000
Can anyone stop Smokin' Joe?  Seems not!  Grats on another fine win, JS.  Al's note above of Joe doing a Vettel on us seems most appropriate.

A terrific and admirable drive from Bob netted P2 in the BRM.  My, but don't I wish I could match that pace!

It certainly bad luck for Art to spin off at T2 on L1 from pole.  As I swept by seeing a red car out there and the distinctive Ferrari V-12 engine note, I thought, 'You poor bugger...all for nought.'  He did recover, at least, and I heard him steaming up hard from behind.  I pulled over to release him as there was no point at all in holding up a much faster runner.

I was just easing myself into this race with no heroics til I got to the fast, left-handed sweeper and got the P115 a touch sideways on turn-in.  In holding the slide, I ate up too much track on the right and clipped a post.  In over 20 laps of pre-race trials, I hadn't had a single incident here.  Now, when it counted, I blew it.  With the big BRM obviously trashed, I quickly reached for the Escape key knowing that TripleA was not far behind and liable to stove right into my wreckage.  Not quick enough.  He clipped me and spun wildly but amazingly, didn't strike any barriers.  Sorry 'bout that.  As it worked out, a short fill stopped him cold soon after.

Carthage should prove interesting.  Time to up-gun my ride.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Arf Arf Arf on February 08, 2012, 08:30:30 PM +0000
No worries Doni - it was certainly a shock to find you lying there, and I think I spun (??), having clipped you as I tried to change direction. However I was mostly glad to find I still had clean dry trousers to sit in as I pulled away again :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Artiglietti on February 08, 2012, 08:58:57 PM +0000
Re the CTD art, I have found that the camera views can get corrupted. Have you changed them. You could always re-install the 67 version using the GPLPS beta 1.04 installer which is totally painless and gives updated tracks and rasterisers. That installer can be found here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Utilities/gplinstall_beta_1.04.exe)

Thank you Paul, will give it a try. Reinstalling is not worth just for the replay though, painless is not guranteed, looking at the ridiculous size of my gpl folder atm..



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Works (67) - Zolder - Feb 5
Post by: Ross Neilson on February 23, 2012, 09:14:09 PM +0000
Mod published.