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Title: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Cookie on February 11, 2012, 11:00:54 PM +0000
WELCOME TO THE UKGPL Season 22 - Pro Trophy  

The 5th race of the season is Down Under at the challenging Bathurst Mount Panorama circuit.  
This is one of the more challenging tracks with its famous downhill corners and extreme long straights.

Drivers beginning season 22 with this race have a free car choice!
All others have to keep their chosen car for the rest of the season,
they will only be allowed to swap chassis in exceptional circumstances and only with the approval of the moderator.
Driver lists can be found on the Pro Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=341&theme=6) championship standings page.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race.
Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.
Full time drivers have priority access to the server until 21.00 UK time.
Please restrict your chat to a minimum!


Race List =   IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 14-02-2012
Qualification Time   = ~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 mins
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = Bathurst panorama (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=180)
Variant = 65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = ~50 min -> 23 laps
RED ZONE = from race start to the end of the Sulman Park bent
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
Replay = you will get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season22/Pros/)


GLA





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 13, 2012, 09:24:43 AM +0000
Really looking forward to this :)
Should probably get some practice in early though as will doubtless have to cook something 'nice' on Tues evening!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: clouds on February 13, 2012, 11:39:43 PM +0000
Nice track but...Valentine's day is forthcoming so it could be that I am present but it is difficult though !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 14, 2012, 09:52:39 PM +0000
.....i'm out one more time, disconected juste before the start ...... but also disco during the qualifs ( 4-5 times ! ) evn if I'm doing nothing , I meen Iwas not driving .... just looking in the garage for my consomation ..... not toughing the mouse.....nothing !
....after Opatija ( bigs lags ...loosing fps....)Watkins...( P.P and disco before start ....)....Clermont ( big lags who make me crash ! ).... and now , many disco and no race again for me!!! ???
....so it's not so fun for me and I decide to stop the champ 65 now....it's sade 'cause there is a good driving level in this champ , but I spend to mutch time to training and race and it seem that the serveur connection don't work well for me !..... ???

...Ihope it will work better with the Porsche Cup..... :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: BadBlood on February 14, 2012, 10:38:07 PM +0000
That is a real shame Tris. You are a top driver. Odd that you have trouble with the 65's... I had several discos in qualification tonight as well. Strange.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 14, 2012, 11:14:32 PM +0000
Given my qualifying results I didn't expect better than an also ran here - After the bump at the end of lap 1 I found myself elevated from 6th on the grid to 1st by the time I crossed the line!
Alex used Ferrari power (and just a spot of drafting ;)) to retake the lead the following lap and I practically handed the race to him a few corners later when I span  ::)

Luckily I didn't hit anything/one and contined about 3 seconds down, thanks to some blistering driving by Alex the gap stayed hovering between 3/4 seconds until pretty much the halfway point when I started to gain on him slowly - wether I was driving faster or he was starting to suffer I don't know, but as I was getting close enough to reach drafting distance he span at Forrest's Elbow. Some how I managed to drift around him dispite my banzai speed and reclaimed a healthy lead  ;D

Here the story and exitment should have ended except Raoni was now behind me in second and was flying!
As the laps slowly came down so did the gap back to him, I increased my pace and started giving my engine more abuse, Raoni would then answer by upping his pace even more  :o

Eventually he started getting close so as I was in a Brabham and at an Australian circuit I chose to employ one of Black Jack's own tricks - I purposly started running 1 or more wheels onto the dirt both inside and outside the track when on the mountain's corners  :ninja:
While it wouldn't result in stones being thrown at Raoni I reasoned that anything that would help obsure the track behind me had a chance of working to slow him  :laugh:

It didn't.
And with 2 to go he finally latched right onto the back of me as we entered Conrod straight.
Here I was able to note - as he passed me - that his top gear was slightly shorter than mine (he was running a totally different gear set from what I could hear) which was my only remaining chance of victory.
So I knuckled down behind him for the final lap and did everything I could to remain close for that last blast down Conrod....
And it worked, admittedly it nearly went horribly wrong as I pulled out from behind him on the final brow and ended up sliding onto the grass but I was hurled past and into the lead (just!). I then reasoned that as Raoni was very good under breaking (how?! He races on keys!  :wacko:) I'd have to perform a do or die late breaking maneuver dispite my problems with the rear brakes at this section of the circuit.
Somehow I managed to pull it off and with a huge drift around the outside of Murrey's I was in the lead as we powered up the finish straight for the last time  :angel:

Raoni deffinatly had the faster car so I'm very pleased with this win, congrats to Raoni and Alex for 2nd & 3rd, and of course to all who finished - and commiserations to Joe for being in the wrong place at the wrong time :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Al Heller on February 14, 2012, 11:59:54 PM +0000
I'm going to have to get me a pair of those lucky "posh socks" Tim. Failing that I might have to resort to King Hiro's lucky gonads (no, just don't ask...)

Not one of my finest hours. I've never really got on with Bathurst so didn't practice beforehand but felt I was actually beginning to get the hang of it in Q. Started 7th which soon became 3rd after the lap 1 hoohah but this was much higher than my pace deserved & there wasn't much I could do to stop both Fulvio & Raoni demoting me to 5th. As the race progressed I began to find some rhythm & began to close again on Fulvio, but before we could really resume our battle I tried a little too hard to get a run on him on the corner that led onto the main straight & clonked the wall lightly which pitched me into a half spin. With a whole gaggle of cars not far behind, that swiftly accounted for another 4 places dropped, as well as a tangle with Mark who got caught up in my mess (apologies Mark). Another self-induced slip dropped me down to 10th & last place, but just before the end Goran took pity on my abject display & threw his car into the wall to allow me back up to the lofty heights of 9th. Congrats to Tim, Raoni & Alex.   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Beefpie on February 15, 2012, 12:10:37 AM +0000
Didn't much appreciate being divebombed off the track at the end of lap one, but never mind. Sorry Raoni for driving into you in a hasty attempt to rejoin the race, glad you were able to continue to a podium finish.

Please be careful on the brakes when you're carrying full tanks, especially on cold tires and in a downhill braking area, you don't get any prizes for running out of road on the first lap.  :-\

Ah well, you can't win them all, well done Tim, Raoni and Alex. Bad luck Tristan, similar thing happened to me last time out. Thoroughly enjoyed Bathurst.  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: clouds on February 15, 2012, 08:06:30 AM +0000
Unfortunately I have not been able to be of the party but Bathurst seemed to me a pretty good track. I made a little practice with lap times just around 2:07 low  :o ::) :P 8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Mark75 Barresi on February 15, 2012, 05:09:11 PM +0000
nothing to say jo, you're absolutely right, sorry for ruining your race on the first lap (although mine was compromised). Again apologies.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: NHance on February 15, 2012, 05:17:15 PM +0000
Just a note to say my team mate Clutch was sorry to miss this one as he is in the process of moving house. However he'll be back presumably with a more spacious cockpit, custom built even , who knows ;D
Norm H


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Beefpie on February 15, 2012, 05:25:56 PM +0000
nothing to say jo, you're absolutely right, sorry for ruining your race on the first lap (although mine was compromised). Again apologies.

Nevermind, thanks for the apology.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 16, 2012, 09:51:55 AM +0000
Hi.....about the connections , it will be good to test the serveur before the race ..... in fact , I'v not seen any training serveur on Igor for Mt. Panorama ...  ok ,if  the pro division65 don't need to have a training serveur , ( in my sens it'a a pity ..... surely the accident of the lap 1  should be avoid by some start training all together .....) , 'cause they are pro ;D .... the other aspect is the conections , who can be tested only on the track with some others drivers .... sometimes the problems come from the track and the result is losting some FPS , still drivable .....
.... but , I've never see so mutch problems on line ....even in Porsche Cup ( but it's maby the same serveur !? ) so many lags if you follow somebody ....( my mate Tom stop for this reason :/ )....
... so ...maby somes fine adjustment on the serveur !!??.....it's seem to me anormal that it's work well with Brasil and bad with England ..... ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Cookie on February 16, 2012, 11:00:15 AM +0000
Hi Tris

The server you drove was T7_2 and it is afaik located in Italy.

Maybe we swap the server the next time with the UKGPL_8, if Paul has no objection.

You can test this server tonight in the F2 Cup of BREASTS with 60fpsV2newmod at 20:45 UK time (21:45 CET)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: G Jonsson on February 16, 2012, 12:42:09 PM +0000
It is of cause very important to find the trouble when things do not work properly but I do not think Tristan`s problem is to be found at the T7_2 server.

Do the problems only occur when you connect to the T7_2 server Tristan, and does it allways occur then? I am no expert in thees matters but if the T7_2 server is to be blamed I think we need others to back it up, and I have not heard of any regular problems with the T7_2 server.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 16, 2012, 06:24:14 PM +0000
thx Cookie ...effectively it will be very interesting to test another one .... and I will try UKGPL_8 as soon as I can , but tonight I allready race in F2 in a very plaisant little champ ! ( organised by Tom Guérou ... ) ....

....Gôran , I dont know what append exactly, but in the 3 last races , I' have been disco 2 times just before the start , and Jo one time ( I don't speak about all the others disco during the qualifies ...) and this never append to me before like this .... that why I think the serveur in cause .... but I'm not a specialiste :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 17, 2012, 12:03:38 AM +0000
yo..... I  race tonight with UKGPL_8 at Silver F2 with 60 fps ..... and it was nearly perfect  :laugh:....I said nearly ' cause i had only 42 FPS maxi , but enought to race normaly and fight during all the race with Jo ;D.......


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: G Jonsson on February 17, 2012, 09:41:31 AM +0000
To me 42fps in 60fps mode is not allright. May I ask what computer you are using? And do you have low fps when you practice offline as well? It can be a matter of setups for the graphic card also you might take a look here, http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6459&st=0 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=6459&st=0) if you are using nVidia card. This http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7058 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7058) also might be helpful.

On Tuesday Feb 21 I have access to the T7_2server so if you like we could run some tests, different settings an so on I also have my own UKGPL9 server so we could compare things.

The bottom line here is: I hate so see you leave the Pro championship.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: BadBlood on February 17, 2012, 10:34:25 AM +0000
I will put some practice sessions up on UKGPL3 Tris which will be 36fps - please try those.

I too had some frame drop problems on Nicky's server for BREASTS on Wednesday. I was getting between 36 and 50 fps and it was very jerky. Perfectly driveable but not very nice. I have had a solid 60 on Cookies UKGPL8 before so it is not PC related.

WRT Disco's. They are almost certainly to do with the quality of connection that you get. Screen freezes are a diffent thing. Disco's just happen sometimes and because they are related to connection quality they are more likey to happen in clusters (your ISP doing upgrades etc.).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 18, 2012, 01:49:58 PM +0000
Hi  guys ...

...thx  Göran ,
 I will be there the 21 to test .... ( everybody 's welcome ;)...
...well  I run with XP 2002 , intel pentium Dual CPU , 1.80 GHz , 2.00 Go de  RAM........ graphic card SAPPHIRE RADEON X 300 E.......
.....Fast Ethernet PCI Realtech RTL8139 Family.
...but for the rest it's  little Chinise to me , I'm novice in computer and it's some friends of the GPL community who help me for all the problems I find .... and we have made everything possible to optimise the matérial and the mods ....I know that my PC is not very powerfull , but it's work quite well most of the time ....if I find some fps problems , most of the time , it's enought just to put down the details of the track and the resolution of the game , the sounds to the mini....etc.....it's less nice but drivable...              ... ( racingable !? )
...Thx Badblood , I will test every serveur from UKGPL_ or from your perso one :)... and I agree with you , my connection should be in cause , but the fact is that 's working more of 95% of the time ! .... and since I get  ADSL and Ethernet , I'v never seen so mutch brutals disco .... normaly , the worst for me is losting some FPS sometimes ( 3-5 max ) and very rare a screen freeze .....( last year , in 3 major french champ ( around 15 and 18 races a year ) not one creen freeze and no one disco !!! )....      ....and the last thing who let me a doubt , is that I'm not alone to be affect as I can read in topics ....yesterday also there was somes disco :/
.....hope " something better change " ( The Stranglers ...............;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: G Jonsson on February 20, 2012, 01:25:36 AM +0000
Tristan,

what time do you think we should run the test on Tuesday. As long as we are done by 19.30 UK time it is OK by me. We meet in the UKGPL chatroom on iGOR.  If you let me know what time you like I can make an announcement about it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: BadBlood on February 21, 2012, 11:23:33 AM +0000
The problem with Discos is very difficult to track down. There are so many things that can change - the problem with internet connections is that the routes can be a problem so you can be fine on Server 1 and have all sorts of problems with Server 2 simply because there is a different route :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: G Jonsson on February 21, 2012, 02:30:56 PM +0000
Does that mean Paul, that the country where the server is located if a factor? Or does the route change from time to time?

And can things like firewalls play a role as well, even if connection is possible? Is there a reduction process, I mean an order that should be followed when testing?

I admit that I am in unknown territory here so any expertice is welcome.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: Cookie on February 24, 2012, 10:46:54 AM +0000
Moderation published


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: BadBlood on February 24, 2012, 12:30:20 PM +0000
Does that mean Paul, that the country where the server is located if a factor? Or does the route change from time to time?

And can things like firewalls play a role as well, even if connection is possible? Is there a reduction process, I mean an order that should be followed when testing?

I admit that I am in unknown territory here so any expertice is welcome.

Göran

The countries that server and client are in can and do play a part. Firewall shouldn't be an issue (either lets you in or not).

The route that each client uses is dependent upon his (or her) ISP. Two people in the same street may have very different routes to a given server but ultimately they will share some of it. For instance I use BT so I will use BT wires all the way to the main hub which is probably London Telehouse. Somebody else might use Virgin fibre and end up at Telehouse but via Virgin cable. BT might have an issue but Virgin not so one will disco and the other won't but they might live next door to each other. Similarly a Virgin customer in Brighton may use a different route to a Virgin customer in Birmingham even though they end up at the same place eventually.

Makes it very difficult to diagnose especially as the problems can be transient. ten seconds of downtime is enough to disco you!

If you can make stable connections with clients then the server is fine. The internet connections of clients is not, however, under your control. It might be fine on Wednesday and unusable on Sunday! :(

The main point of the test is to ensure that the server can cope and that you have the ports configured correctly. Yours is fine!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Bathurst - Feb 14
Post by: G Jonsson on February 24, 2012, 07:15:42 PM +0000
OK, Thanks for the info Paul. Just to further display my ignorance in the matter, may I ask if the DNS server settings you are using might have anything to do with how things work?

I came across this when I was fixing a static IP for one of my other PC`s. It seems to be different suppliers of DNS servers like Google has one that is 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 so of cause I thought they might be different somehow and maybe some works better with GPL than others.

Göran