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Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (44 laps)
Cars allowed: Porche RSR 3.0.

Track: Lakeside Download this

(http://www.matt-rowe.co.uk/comp/PGfiles/SRou_GTR2_Lakeside_1.1.0.0.exe)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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One of my favourite circuits............. :thumbup2:

(Porsche)  ::)

Indeed. Small but perfectly formed  ;D
I wanted an outing for the Porkers, and they are really nice to drive here. :chef:
They don't match well with other cars, so this is an RSR Spec race.
If anyone has trouble getting the beasts round, PM me and I'll mail a drivable setup.

Get the track here http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=30179

EDIT: Link modified for direct download

Yep, I think you're right Matt, this track fits the Porsches nicely.

Using the very nice setup generously supplied by Matt, I managed to sneak just below 58 secs.

I have very little experience with the 911's so what lap times are you guys doing here ?


Stig

LOL

Looks like fun but these things bite and the suspension is made of glass!

Great car & great track! I hope to be able to join the race this Thursday.

56.8 as my best in race trim so far. Race pace is 57.0/1.I repeated these lap times almost every lap. Probably a low 56 will be my quali time...admitting I will be able to race  ???

Cu :)

Qualifying pace of 57.1 so far for me.

And I think that #6 is the widest!  ;D

Is it an idea to put up a link to your setup? I think many will benefit from a drivable setup  :-\

If you think it is a bad idea, could you plz mail me the setup. I'm rubbish at setups..

Thanks.

That's a good idea - I am still stuck around 59.5  ::)

Just one question - I'm not sure whether there are differences: is the IROC RSR also allowed?

I guess that IROC is a bit slower than the 3.0 RSR, mainly cause of the fixed gear ratio (you can adjust only the final gear) and less chances to modifies the car setup. Engines have pretty similar features and the same HP (320), even if the RSR 3.0 is slightly different in terms of power delivery (don't know if it's the right term ???).
Even the tyres are different. The IROC champ was a Good Year single make. For the RSR 3.0 you have 3 different options (Firestone-Dunlop-Good Year). Personally, I guess the good years are the fastest, and I choosed the last model of the RSR 3.0 named "Heimrath racing Canada", if I'm not wrong.
However I guess that only the RSR 3.0 will be allowed for this race, and it should be definitely faster than the IROC ;)

Cu :)

Thanks Manteos  :)

got some laps in this eve. Great track, never raced here before but its a great layout for vintage racing  8) Only thing it could do with is some wider kerbs on the outside edges. Its a bit too easy to get a wheel off and be spun around.

Low 57's with race fuel onboard for me so far (offline prac1 sesh). Didnt run any low fuel laps.  :)
 
Only advice i would give to anyone struggling is dont drop a gear at corner entry or early apex until you have shrugged enough speed off, otherwise you just unsettle the car and the nose wants to turn in. You can also stiffen the front ARB if you find it trying to snap in on you, as it will fight the oversteer.

A basic setup to get you going if you need it:

http://www.matt-rowe.co.uk/comp/RSRmatt1.svm

#6 is the widest? omg what have I started here....  ::)

The IROC is not in the list, but if anyone wants to they could take it, it is quite a bit slower though
and IMHO harder to keep on the track.  :-\

Here's a setup, that I think makes the 911 a bit more easy to drive. I don't think it's any good for the elite drivers, but it might help someone who needs to focus on staying on the track and avoiding damaging the very 'sore' 911. I managed a 56.800 using it.

https://www.yousendit.com/download/M3BrUGhVdGo1R1A0WjlVag


CU thursday.


Stig

Thank you guys! I'll give it a try. CU Thursday.

Thanks for sharing it Stig & Matt. No chance to practice again before Thursday, but I hope I'll have some time to try both the setup, and see if I have any improvement with it. I've never been a good car engineer  ;D ;D

P.S Was your lap time in an online session Stig? Quali or race fuel?

(http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/official-fuel-consumption-figures-explained-28468_1.jpg)

and I used my favorite tyres for this event

(http://www.crossfitleatherneck.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Tires1-580x506.jpg)



Anybody up for a test race tonight, say at 21:00 UK time ?
If the server is not running, I can host.

Stig

Try to be there  ;)

Sorry, cant make it. But the server should be running.

Thanks for the info Stig :)

This evening I have a football match in program, so no chances for a test race :(

Hope to see you tomorrow :)

I tried both the setup, they're really good with some different settings and drive feelings. Stig setup is even asymmetrical, and sometimes I lose the control of my car with it. Matt's setup is a bit more neutral in its reactions, but sometimes I have troubles when I shift up a gear, especially at the exit of the double right corner of the first sector.

However I improved my lap times with both the setup. I was able to turn in 56.5/6 in race pace and my best lap was a 56.3 in both of it.
Then I came back to my old setup and the pace was very similar. Figure that my best lap was... 56.3 even with it ;D
Now I really don't know which is the setup that fit better my drive ;D ;D

Cu :)

Did not realize "UK time", Stig.

Already did some laps online and offline and it seems that I'm faster and more consistent offline (open practice  - no private drive) than online  ???  Steady laps around 0.59 offline but only around 1.00.5 online and that less consistent.
Tried one Goodyear and one Dunlop RSR without much difference it time.

Maybe it's only my personal way of driving!

Both setups were helpful - thanks again guys.

Let's see what tomorrow will bring throughout the different stages of the meeting  ;D

Tnx Stig and Matt. Stick to the easy setup....

My setup is not meant to be particularly fast, just relatively drivable. The camber is not changed and the tyres heat up unevenly.
For me in the Porkas, A setup that has understeer more than ideal will actually allow me to go faster than a "fast" setup
as I can drive with more confidence. Oh, and  I use auto clutch with Porkas, or I too would be struggling with gear changes
up and down  :o Perhaps more diff power and coast would help if you use manual changes

Damn... I have another football match this evening... I will leave my pc turned on to have better chances to race when I will come back home. Every mintue saved will be fundamental... Hope to see you later :)

Server may have been a couple of minutes late starting....  :whistling:

Just couldn't get to terms with the car so quit out. Have a good'un.

BTW I just can't believe that a car that big will spin around just because it mounts a kerb  ???

Blew the engine whilst downshifting (again).
Liked the Porsches and track. Bummer. Engine revision won't be cheap  :'(
 

Results and replay posted

Had a misunderstanding with Stig, he came off the last turn faster and was going to pass, I was unsure which side he would
go we both ended up getting it wrong and I bent my suspension on the fence, went to pit for 2 + minutes to get it
fixed, cam out and went off giving Stig room to lap... then nearly took Matteo out giving him room and getting a wheel on the grass
ah well. was two laps down and a liability so quit. Seem to be a good race up front  :)

I am not a fan of the sim 911s they handle like a cement mixer, I 'm sure real ones are not quite as easy to spin at 40 mph

Me too Alex.  :(

I have become lazy with PnG, not bothering to lift on up shifts and making very aggressive downshifts too.  None of the other cars seem to care but the RSR appears to.

I noticed a lot of burning Porsches during practice and qually and just assumed that they had hit something.

The down-under series has not been very kind to me yet.  I has totted up a disconnection, a hissy fit from my gfx card and now a blown engine.

It can only get better.  ;D

You heathens mashing your engines with heavy downshifts  :P ..i did say dont drop a gear too harshly!

Thought i was going to have a mare of an evening when i turned up late and found my setup which had felt great all week, suddenly felt pants online tonight  ??? Luckily i had downloaded Stigs setup to take a peek so quickly adopted that. Would have been quicker if i had time to tweak it slightly to my taste as it had a lot of understeer.

Race started well, got a better get away than matt and got past up the inside to T1 and set about chasing Clive. We had a good battle for about 15 laps always within a few secs, whilst Matt dropped back, but eventually Clive started to eek out a 5-7 sec lead on me. I carried on chasing him but about mid race he disapeared in a cloud of smoke at the end of the straight and i found myself 3rd  :o

Matteos soon re-caught me after his earlier spin and i let him past rather than make a big error trying to defend someone obviously so much quicker. Then had a quiet race on my own with a 18sec gap to Ade in 3rd and a 44 sec lead over stig behind when on lap 36 or so i got the front right on the kerb at T1 and it daftly slid me into the fence losing part of my front splitter  :(
I rejoined with a 30 sec lead still, so decided to just keep going to the end, albeit losing a second a lap to increased understeer from the aero damage.

Finished a decent enough 4th place in my beloved RSR  8)  Well done to the flying John, Matteos and Ade  :)

Usual newbie moves for me...

Started 2 nd, after some corners, I took the first place due to a mistake by John. I knew that it would have been difficult to overtake in this circuit stucking on the inside line... but after 2 or 3 laps, my car spun at the penultimate corner  :hang: :hang: :hang: So the kind present of an opportunity to fight against him til the end, simply vanished into thin air.
I had enough time to replace the gap with the guys that passed me after my spin (MJ-Clive-Ade), but I found a poor resistance from my "enemies", so I finished the race in 2nd place, but with a bad taste in my mouth for the wasted opportunity to fight against John :-[.
I'm sure that it would have been more fun even for him, but it's a negative period for me with P&G 2. I hope things will go better in the future ::)

Cu in 2 weeks :)

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/LakeFeb12/)

That was probably me  :D
Other PnG cars seem to be able to handle overrevving/engine braking. Onboard cams in real racing cars also seem to use the technique quite often.
The only other car I managed to turn into a BBQ was the Lotus Elite  ???
Well, lesson learned I guess...


I bow to the Porsche God and I solemny pledge to downshift with care :notworthy:  ;)

Thank you Alex for posting the lapchart  :thumbup1:.

This was a better one for me.
Had a stable setup based on Stig's one (thanks again Stig) slightly modified - for one time
in the right direction  ;D and suitable for my personal style of driving.
New PB's during practice and race and six or seven times I was on my way to another PB
slightly under 0.58 at split 2 but each time I lost the advantage again after split 2  :(
No problems at all concerning overreving/engine braking  ???. Was able to brake considerably
later than Alex and Tony due to a suitable combination of braking (set to 100%) and
enginebraking  :). Nice fight with Alex during first part of the race but more than difficult to
pass on this track  ;D .
Unfortunately both left the game early  :( so I had the usual and lonely race at the back of the
field paying attention to the leaders when lapping.
Some trouble with the curbs too during the race.
Had to slow a bit during the last quarter of the race after some damage caused by a turner
but very happy to finish in sixth place which I hadn't expected.

Congratulation to the podium.

See you next time!

Great little track and I love the 911 - good choice Matt :thumbup1:

Just got ahead of Matteo at the start and held onto it through the first corner, but then dropped a wheel on the grass before the fast right-hander >:( It could have all gone horribly wrong but I just managed to hold on to the slide before Ade could go through as well.

Caught back up to Matteo over the next few laps before he made a mistake at the last corner - shame about that :( We'll have a good race one of these days...

Did anyone notice what their tyre wear was at the end? I'd practised offline in a Goodyear car and calculated that the wear on the front-left would be around 18 with mediums, but I swapped to a Dunlop after I saw I was in the same car as Ade. Wear at the end was about 14, so probably could have got away with using softs instead. Was just wondering if this was because of the different tyres or the different grip level online.