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Title: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: Cookie on February 27, 2012, 01:21:40 PM +0000
WELCOME TO THE UKGPL Season 22 - Pro Trophy  

The 6th race of the season is at the challenging Pacific Raceways.  
This is a real fun track with the 65s.
Drivers beginning season 22 with this race have a free car choice!
All others have to keep their chosen car for the rest of the season,
they will only be allowed to swap chassis in exceptional circumstances and only with the approval of the moderator.
Driver lists can be found on the Pro Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=341&theme=6) championship standings page.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race.
Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.
Full time drivers have priority access to the server until 21.00 UK time.
Please restrict your chat to a minimum!


Race List =   IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 28-02-2012
Qualification Time   = ~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 mins
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = Pacific Raceways pacirace (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2722)
Variant = 65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = ~50 min -> 34 laps
RED ZONE = from race start to the end of the second hairpin T3b
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
Replay = you will get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season22/Pros/)


GLA









Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: clouds on February 28, 2012, 08:28:30 AM +0000
I should be present this evening with my Fezza ! ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: FullMetalGasket on February 28, 2012, 09:29:46 AM +0000
Taking Kate out for a meal tonight as it's her birthday so might not make the race. Hope I can as I loved the track in the Porka on Sunday and want a chance of winning again without disco'ing!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: BadBlood on February 28, 2012, 11:22:09 AM +0000
Make sure she appreciates it... ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: Al Heller on February 29, 2012, 12:09:55 PM +0000
Phew - I was very fortunate to finish at all, never mind nick a podium. I'd dismantled my G25 for repairs just before the race after it kept losing steering calibration during practice. Managed to fix that (loose sensor bracket on the end of the motor) though in my ham-fisted haste to reassemble the damn thing I must've tweaked a wire or something because I started getting weird gear change issues that very nearly ended my race.

All seemed fine during qualifying & for the first few laps I was able to comfortably follow Clive in 3rd place. However after a few laps I started getting the odd double or triple downshift... I'd arrive at T1, change down to 2nd but then sometimes get 1st or even neutral :o I tried to adapt my driving in order to accomodate this, changing down & braking earlier, which kept me on track albeit not going as quickly as I'd have liked! Fortunately for me, the guys behind had been delayed by all the first lap shenanigans & were now rather busy scrapping with each other so I was able to maintain a 8-10 second gap. Up ahead Clive had obviously got bored lapping on his own & decided to hide in the bushes & wait for me - I gratefully accepted 2nd place however was now rather concerned that my unpredictable gearshifting could lead to a very messy outcome. Still, I can never resist a battle with the Evil one so decided to give it a go & hope for the best - though this lasted all of 2 laps when I very nearly clouted the cones from hell that lead onto the main straight & rather relievedly relinquished 2nd back to Clive. The rest of the race was spent nervously trying to maintain the gap back to Alex & Juha, but towards the end the shifter problems seemed to get worse & with several wobbly moments in the final laps I was losing 1-2 seconds per lap. Very happy to see the finish of what felt like a very long & hard race - limped over the line in 3rd though I reckon one more lap & the guys behind would have all got me.

Congrats to Tris who disappeared off into the distance - glad you got your connection issues sorted & to Clive on 2nd. Hope we get a better turnout for the next races or we might have to start press-ganging some of the Inters to join us...             
   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: BadBlood on February 29, 2012, 12:14:51 PM +0000
Congrats to Tris who disappeared off into the distance - glad you got your connection issues sorted & to Clive on 2nd. Hope we get a better turnout for the next races or we might have to start press-ganging some of the Inters to join us...             

Well done Al and Tris.

Actually the thinner grids are concerning me a bit. We might have to go back to two grids next season unless things pick up a bit. Grids of 9, 11 and 9 so easily accommodated on two grids. Mid season review is coming up so thinking caps on.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: G Jonsson on March 01, 2012, 11:47:55 AM +0000
If I begin with the race, it is clear to me that I have come into a bad habit of not transferring my speed to race results. This time I was in a comfortable 4Th behind Al and Evil when I did a small stupid mistake, that nearly got fatal for both me and Fulvio, then spent the rest of the race behind Juha and Alex, after Sergio left, not able to pass. Al on the other hand was not that quick but managed to finish 3rd, WD.

Grats to Tristan, Evil and Al and also Alex and Juha for defending so well.

Now to the matter of divisions and Pro`s. There is not only in 65 the numbers have dropped the same is clear for the Historic and that is of cause a problem but I do not think that we should go back to 2 divisions for 65`s because I really like the Pro division with free car choice. If we were to go back to 2 divisions then the handicap stuff would come back and frankly I do not like handicap stuff. It is OK for the lower divisions but in the top I like it to be compete on equal terms. To win when some of your competition is in slower cars is not that fulfilling.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: jhalli on March 01, 2012, 08:51:32 PM +0000
not a best quali time for me and bt7 , i was slower than expected. Race start was okay and soon i was able to catch Alex Barresi's Ferrari, i could get a slipstream and hold very close him all the rest of the race ,unfortunately i wasnt able to overtake anywhere because poor engine performance of bt7.

good racing Alex, good nerves !  :)

not really like that i need to use bt7 all season, do i get any extra points using a bt7 ? :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: 1967driver on March 02, 2012, 07:34:27 AM +0000
not really like that i need to use bt7 all season, do i get any extra points using a bt7 ? :P
If Axel agree, i can switch to Cooper in next races and i'll company you in the rear of grid (in this way, we can use all cars availables this season).
I wait response.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: G Jonsson on March 02, 2012, 09:20:16 AM +0000
I think Juha should be allowed to change car because I do not think that when he picked car he really knew that it was free car choice for the Pro division.

Göran


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: jhalli on March 02, 2012, 02:23:57 PM +0000
not really like that i need to use bt7 all season, do i get any extra points using a bt7 ? :P
If Axel agree, i can switch to Cooper in next races and i'll company you in the rear of grid (in this way, we can use all cars availables this season).
I wait response.


yea good idea to use Cooper, if is it any faster than bt7 .   So what do you think race moderators ?  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: Cookie on March 02, 2012, 02:36:18 PM +0000
I think Juha should be allowed to change car because I do not think that when he picked car he really knew that it was free car choice for the Pro division.

Göran

He knew! ::)

But with the advocacy of another moderator, I agree with this car change!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: 1967driver on March 02, 2012, 03:06:06 PM +0000
I think Juha should be allowed to change car because I do not think that when he picked car he really knew that it was free car choice for the Pro division.

Göran

He knew! ::)

But with the advocacy of another moderator, I agree with this car change!
I dont understand: who can change car ? I or Juha ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: Cookie on March 02, 2012, 03:16:15 PM +0000
Both, if you want!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: jhalli on March 03, 2012, 12:20:12 PM +0000
Both, if you want!


Okay !  8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: MagicArsouille on March 05, 2012, 01:27:24 PM +0000
YO !  .... sadly not so mutch drivers present for this race ..... ??? ...
 .... well , I take great fun on this very good and tricky track and give you rendez-vous on another kind of bumpy track .... ;D

...thank to all

  bye


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 05, 2012, 04:42:48 PM +0000
As far as I know I'll make the next one - would hate to miss the Ring!
Will be there in May so next race counts as 'practice' ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: Cookie on March 23, 2012, 10:41:52 AM +0000
Moderation published


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: clouds on March 23, 2012, 01:17:44 PM +0000
First of all, I've to give my personal apologies to whose I've involved in my incidents (actually I don't remember very well who they were but not lesser they were penalized by me).
Sencond, I think there is a drawback letting all the guys to choose the cars they like to drive on withouth a rule. That because all the guys can go faster on a Lotus than on a Cooper so in this way the Pro could become a single car championship (like PSC to be precise).
I think it should be necessary to have a sort of handicap to maintain the champioship leveled in terms of performances and so giving each one driver the same chances to take a win. I make a simple example, if me and JHally are 2 drivers skilled almost the same (I'm sorry for the "almost"  Juha but I think you are better than me in mod 65), and I use a Lotus while Juha drives a Cooper what do you think it should be the final result of Clouds Vs JHally fight ?  ;) ;D
I've got in this consideration the main goal is to have a balanced champioship but...maybe this is not the main goal of the championship manager as well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: 1967driver on March 23, 2012, 02:51:53 PM +0000
I agree with your evaluation, Axel.
My contact with Raoni was determined only by FOV limit in GPL, no responsibility for us (both have not seen other driver).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: Cookie on March 23, 2012, 04:32:02 PM +0000
I've got in this consideration the main goal is to have a balanced champioship but...maybe this is not the main goal of the championship manager as well.

Yes Sergio I agree!  ::)
You have to take in your thoughts that we have allready a handycapped series, as the pros division is raced only by the best drivers...
My idea was that we have a championship where you can drive the car you like, but if you feel to take a Lotus gives you too much of a fortune, you should choose a slower car. If you take the Lotus, you will have the least reliable car too  ;D
In the last seasons there was a much greater gap between the fastest and the slowest drivers!
Look at the standings table  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 22 (2011-2012) Pro (65) - Pacific Raceways - Feb 28
Post by: clouds on March 23, 2012, 09:34:39 PM +0000
I only say that if we have a Pro championship in which we would know who is the best Pro driver of the party, then we should have to race all with only one car like in PSC otherwise all the other combinations without an handicap could not represent the best driver of us in this season !
Reliability !?!?!?....when I'm 20 or 30 or more seconds in front of the second driver I could also think to Manage my car and my advantage, don't you think ?  :P ;) ;D