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UKGTR SEASON 16 LOWER ENDURANCE CHAMPIONHSIP  - ROUND 1

All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 BST (20 mins)
Qual 2:       20:20 BST (20 mins)
Race:          20:40 BST (60 mins)- note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GT2 from the UKGTR car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) v2.16.0.0
Track: UKGTR Spa 2004 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2)
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable - Based on real world conditions.
- Forecast to be released at 19.30 BST on race day.
- Weather generated randomly using custom UKGTR weather generator.
- The in game ambient temp used will be no lower than 12 degrees C despite the real word ambient temp.
- No heavy or monsoon levels of rain will be used.
- All sessions will use the exact same weather to give drivers an idea of what will happen in the early stages of the race.
- Real world ambient temp readings will be taken from local day time at the real race track but, rain probability readings will be taken from the real race track at 19.30 BST.

FORECAST
 Weather: Dry and sunny
 Ambient: 12.00
 Track: 19.03
 Probability of rain: 0%
 Early Conditions:  Dry
 Mid Race Conditions:  Dry
 Late Race Conditions:  Dry

Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: x2.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: simracing.org.uk GT2
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=356;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.


EDIT: Updated weather info.

 8)

Need to set track and pass...  :wetfish:

As the other race announcement has a moan about start times I'll just have a quick moan about weather. I'll check the forecast but if it looks like being changeable I'll not bother. I haven't a clue about setups, I'm rubbish about guessing what the weather is doing and thus if I need to change tyres etc. I couldn't change the setup to make it able to handle wet/dry conditions. The game doesn't support it properly, can't adjust wings / tyre pressures etc at a pitstop. I can't handle it properly and it ruins races for me. Just MHO, enjoy your racing and I might join if the forecast looks consistent.

is there any other download site for the trackpack

Doesn't either the Filefront or Humyo ones work any more?

Humyo only works sporadically (they want you to buy in to their new setup) and the Filefront link is probably retired due to age.

The filefront link works for me.

thanks guys got it str8 see u sunday fresh start for all

ah the sweet warm buseum of a GT2 Porsche at Spa Francochamps....lovely jubbly  :thumbup1:

just banged some laps in despite man-flu, it felt mighty sweet. Barring me falling apart over the weekend i'll see you chaps in the pit lane  :)

ps...shame we arent using the latest incarnation of Spa. I like all spa's variants but think it would be better if we used the latest 'current' version of all the tracks we use for this modern GT series. Its not P&G after all  ;)

Hope there is a decent turnout, did you post up over at No-grip? (edit, just have for you  :) though our P&G race announcements there drew over a 1000hits and yet only 1 or 2 ventured over and then disapeared  ::) )

Its going to take me a while to get used to this version of the track, its a surprise every time i aproach the chicane.

I briefly thought that I would have a look at this but the track pack that I have is not the same version and there does not appear to be any way of downloading it.

GTR2 crashes to desktop as soon as it tries to load Spa 2004.

I'll just do some more PnG practice instead.

Gamefront link works for me.

just done 15 laps in porsche, down to 2:26. still deciding whether to race a porsche this season.....never really understood how to get the best out of them, anyone got any setup/driving tips?

So where would that be then?

I can only see MegaUpload, FileFront and Humyo.  All of which are defunct.

Don't fret over it.  I think that the mood has left me.

Jeez.

Click on the filefront link. If you actually bothered to look at what you were doing and not just dismiss it as not working you would see the large yellow download button next to the file details.

Filefront hasnt existed for a longtime, its now called gamefront.

The server is now running with an ambient temperature similar to what we can expect in the race.


The forecast is currently for a dry race. We will not be using ambient temps of less than 12 degrees C and no heavy rain/monsoon conditions for changeable weather races due to the limitations of the in game weather.

The filefront/gamefront links works for me.

I have added a bit more info on how the weather will be used to the 1st post.

hello SRW,

there are 3 porsches (i think) in this carpack, so what porsche did you drive.
if you did drive the orginal porsche RSR, then this car is a very slow car in this carpack, if i remember correct this car did get a weigth penalty of 15kg to orginal, which make this car to much slow.
in other side, the orginal biturbo and seat toleda did get -15kg and this cars are normaly same fast in laptimes then RSR. the M3 which is extrem same fast to RSR did get -5kg.
so the orginal RSR (think 996??) you can forget if you like a winning car.
the biturbo should be a fast car in this carpack, but it takes long time to become fast with this car, because of corner slow this car is.

if you select a porsche i do suggest you the other RSR, perhaps 997 is the name (do never know exactly name of the porsche cars), or 997 cup RSR? this i think is the best car in carpack, together with the f430 and the gallardo lambo (but galardo is slow in straigths speed).

this are information about longer time ago i did test (perhaps 1-2 years ago), but i think not much (or nothing) is changed in this cars since this, so performance should be same (or nearly), only gallardo i did test any days ago in dubai and i did add hoc?? faster laptimes then i can do with M3 (orginal), did with 100l 1.57.mid racelaps which is extrem fast, but car is extrem slow in straights.

think i will drive M3 for this season, easy car to drive and i have already many setups for this car, which save me lot of time and i know car good.

....must we stay the complete season with 1 car? or can we switch 1xtime or more often??

with orginal M3 i think i can do 2.19/2.20 laptimes with 100l med med, so with -5kg in this version and +30litres tank, i will be in the 2.20.xxx in 1st stint i hope.

servus

Thank you for your courteous response but it doesn't really tell me what to do with the system message that says:-
Internet Explorer has encountered
a problem and needs to close.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.
This is the response that GameFront invokes on both of my computers.

Well you could have actually posted that up, rather than just being dismissive.


Are running the latest version of IE, kept it up to date patch wise? Any ad blockers?

I Just copied the link into IE and it worked.

still dont know 100% which car im going to use yet lol

I tried pressing Ctrl and selecting the link and it didn't work any better.

The Error signature is this:
AppName: iexplore.exe    AppVer: 8.0.6001.18702    ModName: mshtml.dll
ModVer: 8.0.6001.19190    Offset: 00088fa7

I'm on XP so can't go any higher than IE 8.

try using google chrome.

I use that browser and downloaded the track pack earlier with the filefront / link and it worked no problem.

http://chrome.google.com (http://chrome.google.com)

IE has a habit of messing about when you have certain programs installed.

I am going to use the m3 i think for this season, however untill i get a new wheel i will be left behind totally. My up shifter paddle has decided it wants to mess about most of the time and sometimes double shifts its self so goes from 1st straight to 3rd, 2nd straight to 4th ect.


Down shift works fine though :-)

Weather Forecast released.

1st post updated.

QS there is a program you can use that should help with the double-shifts. Its called joy-to-key so you assign up & down shifts to a keyboard key and then you assign that letter to your paddle press. IT therefore treats you shifts as a keypress so can control how quickly it leaves it between presses.

A real shocker for me there :(
I hadn't realised until late on in qually that my brake pedal had been slightly on :-[ I cleaned the pedal quickly and then set a deadzone of 10% on that pedal. My main problem after that was the fact I tried to set the car up with this pedal on...
Anyway I struggled with adjusting my braking points etc and eventually crashed out after the car oversteered and then snapped back and I drove into a tyre wall. Hope you all had a good race and I will do a bit more practice for the next one ;)

Hi Guys,

Firstly sorry for dipping in & out, I hadn't been on the forum for awhile and only saw the post while you were all in qually. After quickly downloading carpacks etc I tried to get on the pace but ran out of qually time, so I ended up starting the race having come straight from iracing with no setup and not having started GTR2 for a couple of months, was never gonna end well!!!!

Anyway I decided the stop trying after MJ ran into to me at the hairpin while I was trying to let the leaders through, I ran wide to give him room, but I guess he didn't see i'd lifted off.

Anyway, now I know the season has started I'll dust off GTR2 again and get some well needed practice in ;D

wasnt going too bad for that track. (not my favourite by far)

4 mins before the end was in 9th i think then my stupid computer decided it would try to activate windows so switched to the desktop. when it switched back to the game i was flying in the air and landed between a wall and a fence off the track GAME OVER.

Chears spanner ill look it up and give it a shot.

That was a corker of a first race, with an unfortunate ending for me.

Qualied 3rd place behind Alien Berger and TT in his turbo so was chuffed with that.  :)

First half of the race was excellent with TT, H@L, myself and Rob Vern? chasing all within a couple of secs of each other. H@L and TT's extra horsepower would leave me for dead from La source exit to top of Kemmel then i'd be all over them for the last half a lap until the process repeated! Intense focused racing, loved it.  8) Shame Rob left quite early?
After an intense half hour racing and chasing, H@L pitted about 4 laps earlier than me, and despite my stop being clean as a whistle and no offs, he re-appeared 21 secs ahead of me after my own stop  ??? That kinda killed off the battle for 2nd place unfortunately.
TT wasnt far behind me when he pitted same time as me but i managed to get a good gap out to him and Spanner of about 14 seconds and feeling happy for a solid 3rd place at my fave race track.
But the racing gods (or sloppy pit engineer  ;) ) short fueled me by about 5Litres and just knew with a sinking feeling i didnt have enough to finish the race (oh how i swore!) so sadly i had to pit with only 2 laps remaining and with spa having an exceptionally long pit lane costing a minute, that was my race and podium solidly fubared. Finish a despondent 7th  :'(

Cracking race though, and well done to amazing paced Berger (he must know a short cut through the trees!) and H@L and TT for wrapping up the podium  :thumbup1:

Very fun race for me. :)

I had a great fight in the first half with TT and MJ. Good stuff guys. I managed to get 2 cut warning in the 2nd half and was very close to getting a stop and go for speeding in the pit lane as I came in a bit hot.

You need to do that manual push button start business to be faster in the pit MJ. I did only change front tyres and had no damage but, I did take on about 10L more fuel than I needed.

Berger smashed the lap records for race and qualy I believe, grats Berger.

Well done also TT for 3rd.

Thanks for taking part all, see you at the next race. :)

It's been quite a few years coming, but one day, one day, MJ will get the hang of pit stops. :laugh:
It'll be a sad day of course for the rest of us (one less easy position made ;))

Thought BiT will have more advantage here, tbh. :-\ Was losing more or gaining as soon as a corner showed up. Of course, it might be 'cause of the setup. ;) Anyways, 2nd quali pos. seems to have been more luck than anything else now. Driving on the edge soon got me two lost positions against H@l and MJ and once they were past I couldn't keep up. :( Started with meds and I was wondering about weather it was a right decision but what was done... Decided not to change tyres and just get some fuel. Even so MJ went out quicker and Spanner was just behind. Wobbly driving through Eau Rouge and he was past, then after some laps he returned the favour. ;) After Jon quit and MJ managed to get another pitstop ::) I was 3rd and stayed there to the end despite Spanner being VERY big in my mirrors. :)
I wonder about my decision about driving this car for the season, I hope I can do as good as Raikonnen will try to be. ;D

P.S. Berger managed to make me corious about tyres and yes, Legends BiT has Dunlops...  :(

I do use manual push button ! and had no damage to fix, the stop was fairly spot on, hence why i wondered how you gained so much time. Must be because you only changed 1 set of tyres. I dont know why i was a few litres short on the fuel though, maybe i came in one lap earlier than i meant to as i know my tyres suddenly fell away for grip. Frustrating way to end a race where i had been fighting for 2nd/3rd most of it. :(

Huh? wasnt me! I never had contact with anyone the whole race. Didnt have a scratch on the car. I dont even remember seeing you in the race other than exiting La source where i passed down the right hand side without contact.  ???

No they're not, I see no results  :o

Results are are th top of this page, however Spa is missing from the Championship standings page. It starts with Bahrain Its only got 5 races on it.

I should have been more specific, I meant the championship page.

Wow, that was one of the hardest races i've had in a long time, mainly due to having people to race against, pretty much all race. No chance to relax at all, especially when your sometimes pushing them through the corners ;D

Bit disapointed in qually being so far away from MJ who turns up out of the blue andprobably hasnt driven these for a few years ;) But with such a long lap i didnt get my timing right, I messed up an early lap getting distracted by a message popping on screen then with a couple of mins to go realised i wasnt going to complete my out lap and get a flying lap in before the time was up.

I never really felt i got Eau Rouge right all race and i was clearly a sitting duck on the straights as both Apex and Picnic would draft straight past but then they were holding me up as as soon as we got in the corners which made for some interesting times but overall we were pretty close but it was good fun hassling them, trying to get an opening, touring car stylee lol. When Apex pitted i decided i'd stay out longer as i would likely be quicker then than if i stopped and put more fuel (weight) onboard and I was closing Picnic down slowly. Realised it would likely be status-quo if we all stopped for fuel-tyres so decided to not change tyres. Down to luck rather than skill, my tyres were wearing pretty equal front-rear which meant the car was pretty consistent so i thought i'd take the risk. This worked really well with Picnic about 20 secs behind but Apex alot further back :o  

However i didnt have long before TT was exiting the pits for another manic stint. Though he was faster down the straights by only a few tenths  i seemed alot quicker through the corners so all i could do was try to annoy him under braking and in the corners which involved a few close calls at times. I got completly crossed up into the bus stop, on the kurbs so i didnt mean to flash you TT, its just quite close to my thumb! But then you speared off and slowed so wasnt really sure what happened then ???

But seeing MJ pitting at the end distracted me a bit too much and TT finally found the boost button as he was straght past but i was welded as much as i could to his bumper. Those last few laps were amazing :o I was trying my hardest on the last lap to stick with him on to the back straight ready for the bus stop but was just trying too hard and got out wide, onto the grass coming out of ***** and lost a second, allowing TT an easy run to the end!

Good to see some old faces returning, i hope you stay :)

Looking forward to the LMP2's next week


Err how long! i should be working.... :hang:

Sorted it now. :)

Thank you kindly Sir :)

Hah, I was looking back and pressed the throttle too much and spinned rears on the exit curbs. ::)

Unfortunately I had to miss this one... I was busy during the week end in the Pit Lane of Monza circuit... The new Ferrari 458 Italia driven by Andrea Palma and sponsored by VDA did its debut yesterday, with a 2nd place in race 1 and a 1st place in race 2. Not bad :)

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Greetings from Monza  ;D ;D
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9383/img4311o.jpg)

nice lol.

Gotta admit i do prefer the 458 to the 430.

Did they let you take it for a spin??

Obviously no!  ;D

The most powerful veichle I ride on the track was a 2 stroke competition kart of a VDA mate with 35 hp, in the kartodrome inside Misano Circuit. I never thought that a competition kart would have been so hard to drive for the body, and especially for the arms and neck. Really impressive!
I cannot imagine how tiring it would be to drive a GT2 like the 458... I guess at the first braking my eyes would come out from my face ;D ;D