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The first round of this mini series takes place in the familiar environs of Silverstone in Northamptonshire, home of the British Grand Prix. Joe raced on the club circuit here a number of times in his racing career. We will be using the full 1967 layout which often produces close and exciting racing.

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_GPG
IP address	62.195.32.131
Date	01-04-2012
Race time	Race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying time	Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track	Silverstone
Mod	67
Damage model	PRO
Race length	34 laps
Replay	Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season22/Joe_Shaw_Memorial/S22_JoeShawMemorial_R01_2012_04_01_Silverstone.rar)

The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of turn 5 (Stowe). Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.

Chassis rules, schedule and standings can be viewed here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=355&theme=6).

Where do we register?

Hi Ronnie, no need to vote in a poll, just add a message to the series thread here

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10596.0

that way we know you're interested. Thanks for supporting the series.

Count me in for these races please.

Thanks Clive, please confirm your interest here;

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10596.0

I think you might be on a loser getting people to register an interest somewhere else  :D...

im in too ! Lotus49

Despite having a pretty decent go in the GT round just last week, Silverstone has never been a circuit I looked forward to competing upon.  Bone flat, killer kerbs, blah!

Having said that, since this is a race in Joe's honour, I'll most definitely be there.

(And no one-lap tour this time!)

Yep, pencil me in as well....another excuse, not that we need one, to get out in the big bangers.

I'll be there. I wonder if there's any way we could mix up the chassis a bit though? Otherwise we'll probably be looking at a Lotus spec series. Aside from anything else, it might feel rather more appropriate to have a Brabham leading the way...

There could be a sort of gentleman agreement for which each one agrees to use a different chassis for every race? I'll be in the red one at silvy anyway.

I'll take the Joe Shaw special for Silv...would be nice to improve my pb in it

I was trying to keep it simple but I agree it would another element if we had some sort of chassis rules.

Similar to Attilio's idea, I was thinking about choosing three chassis, and allowing a driver to use each one only once. My idea might produce spec races though so perhaps Attilio's is the way to go. Everyone is welcome to post their thoughts but I will try to make a quick decision so you all know where you stand in case you want to practice beforehand.

Well I guess the simplest solution might be to just use the current rules & give us all a set amount of tokens. We all understand that & it seems to work pretty well as far as I can see.   

Im afraid the token system spread over only 3 races would be the most likely to give us spec races, only with brabs instead of lotus..

How about 45 tokens for the three races. Loyus + Ferrari + Brab or 3 x Ferrari...

Or maybe 42 tokens just to make it harder...

Whatever, we would have to do the tokens manually. That is OK though. I can do that.

Ah, I hadn't thought of that Paul - sounds like it might be a bit fiddly.

OK so expanding on Art's suggestion, how about over the 3 races we can choose:

Group A - Lotus/Eagle - 1 race max, then 1 from group B & 1 from C
Group B - Ferrari/Brabham - 2 races max, then 1 from group C
Group C - Cooper/Honda/BRM - no restriction

Edit: clumsy attempt at clarification of ill-conceived post!

Thanks for all the chassis suggestions guys. Final details will be announced this evening.

Good to see some Privateers entering this Sunday's race but of course the other two rounds will clash with the final two Privateers events. Privateers are very welcome but may be classed as non-scoring in the interest of keeping the points table simple. If interest warrants a second server then Privateers will run on that but we'll see how many more drivers want to race first.

Will turn out for Silverstone as a one off & finish the Season on the Privateers schedule.
Being a non-points scoring entrant is something I'm rather used to.
Assume any Privateers who join on this basis have a free choice of chassis - although I'll stick with the Brabham.

I want to use a car that would give me a chance for victory, but not make it easy, so we can have close racing.

It's been decided that Attilio's suggestion for chassis restrictions will be used. So a driver can choose any chassis but they must use a different chassis for each race.

That might mean we get grids full of Lotuses, Eagles and Ferraris but I don't see that as a problem. The Brabham or even the Cooper might be a good choice at the Brands Indy circuit.

That sounds like a good model, at least for this one. *unlocks the safe to the Lotus keys*

Now stop fighting gentlemen. One key per chassis. ;D

Rumours are circulating that Waza old boy and current Black Night Tim Muttram may be returning too so the quality of the field is sure to be high :)

GPG server is set to 34 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
Ciao

I think I've bodged up something for the pedals here for now - I'm not expecting to be massively fast though as driving from a curved desk means that the gears are no-longer where they're supposed to be!
Very tempted to take a waza-mobile for tonight for old time's sake ;)

We have enough drivers for two servers now so Works drivers will be on GPG and Privateers on T7. Anyone else wanting to race just choose whichever server suits you best.

might join in tonights fun if only I can get a handle on the rules  :)

Just pick any chassis you like Bernie and join T7 as usual.

cheers man  ;)

Privateers are on UKGPL8 now, not T7.

An eventful affair for me.

I was slowly improving my time in the Brab but was at the limit in the race, which I knew was a bad idea!  Sorry to Jethro on my rejoin after my off at the 3rd turn, I didn't see you until we made contact.  Then later on I spun out of copse and left you no where to go...

I am disappointed in my performance, but perhaps my performance showed my lack of praccy.

Bob.

Decided to take the Lotus because I haven't driven it for a couple of years and boy did it show!  I lost count of the number of times I lost the back end under braking.  If Joe was watching he would have chuckled.

Grats to Geoff on a fine win but the start line antics gave him a decent head start ::).  I'll be back in the Ferrari for the Privateers (saved enough tokens to drive the 312 in the last two rounds ;D).

My presence was short as I am not used to drive these beasts and had made the setup of my Lotus worse...

Here is the replay (http://www.sendspace.com/file/hwzo8d) but the .html is in german language!
So for the import only the complete.txt works ;)

Thanks for hosting Cookie, you saved the day!

I'm sorry I couldn't make it, I had guests at home and couldn't attend the race.

So where do I start with this weekend's tale of woe....

Firstly, immediately before the qualifying I ran a race on the praccy server, (largely a Ferrari vs Brabham affair), which I ran on wifi with no problems whatsoever (no latency issues, which wasn't to last).

As soon as I tried to connect to the Works server the problems started. I was told I couldn't connect because the latency on my connection as too big. So I switched to a wired connection, and started again (I closed GEM and started again). Still no luck.

In iGor I was invited to join the Privs, so that I at least got a race - thanks gents.

However....for all the time I was connected my latency bar was solid red. At the start of last season, I did have some latency issues, but I was well aware of them, as they made me 5 secs a lap slower than I knew I was. As no one was complaining/mentioning it, I assumed I was OK, and went on to narrowly take pole.

Latency bars still maxed out, the race started, and I went straight ahead, but got taken out in the first 50 yards - no idea if my warping had anything to do with this, but that seemed like the end of the race, as I lost a wheel. Then I remembered that Privs = one shift+R, so I took it and started after the pack. For the first part of the race I wasn't aware of any warping, as I could see everyone I was chasing, and they weren't appearing and disappearing. I got past quite a lot of the field before I saw people taking massive avoiding measures when I was coming up to them. I started to think that they were letting me past for fear of warp contact....

Not entirely sure what was going on, I stopped caring when I realised I was P2 and taking 2/3 secs a lap out of Geof's lead. Then the gods decided to have more fun at my expense.

It was probably the latency that threw me out of the timings(???), but I did not disco. One lap I was P2, 11 secs behind Geof, next I was P7 +1 lap, and getting no information on Geof/Ross' positions. This happened to me at Dragon's Nest before Xmas. From then on I was very aware of cars flickering, and varying position. I also couldn't get round Club without spinning for 5/6 laps. I had hoped to get past Geof and finish, then sort out the honours, but whatever was happening at Club (I do not believe I was driving it any differently) ruined any chance of that. The flickering also meant that I rejoined the track in front of someone after one spin - apologies to whoever that was, but I just didn't know you were there.

After this I had to take all the slower corners very gingerly. I'm sure my rear tyres must have been overheating as cornering generally became difficult. Further spins let 2 drivers past, but not sure who they were (I suspect it was Ross and Dave) so I think I should be classified 4th at worst (don't bother trying to work it out Mods, it ain't that important), rather than the -18 laps I am classified....

If anyone has any thoughts on why my internet went from fine in the praccy server to so bad I couldn't get into the Works server, (and probably shouldn't have bothered with the Privs server) I'd be interested to hear. No other devices were using the network at the same time.

Sorry to have ended up a DNE for this.  Real-life dramas overtook this household late Friday and again Saturday afternoon.

We have two vehicles at our disposal and within hours of one another, both broke down.  One refuses to start; the other is making with an incredible grinding noise out of the left-front corner.  Wheel bearing or zero brake lining left, I suspect.  Without the luxury of a shift-R, I spent much of today trying to make arrangements so I could make it to work tomorrow AM.  The local tow-truck driver will have a busy Monday at my expense.  With both vehicles shop-bound, our piggy-bank has just declared DEFCON2.

Grats on the victory, Art!  Close one, Juha!  Well done for P3, Clive.

Well done to everyone who turned up for this one. See you at Brands Hatch Indy.

As the old motor racing cliche goes - to finish fourth, fourth you have to finish (err, maybe not...) I qualified 4th, set the 4th fastest lap & finished 4th. All this achieved without once troubling the top 3...  ::)

Well done to Art who has really stepped up his pace & consistency lately (I think Joe would have approved of the manner of your victory  ;) ) & to Juha & Clive. I tried hard to catch you guys but wasn't making a dent & so spent the race trying to maintain a gap to Fulvio, whilst suffering strange deja-vu visions of passing Hondas every other lap... Nice to see a good turnout for these races & looking forward to the next one. 

I suspect you had problems with T7 server cause it was still set on Opengl_V2 from last Friday GT race. Opengl_V2 runs only at Full Desktop so you have to launch it on Console. To run on Remote Desktop you have to use Opengl so it can run in a window.
Only GT mod always requires Opengl_V2 and Console session on T7 server.
Ciao

That sounds right Fulvio, the error was related to glide2x.dll.

I had an earlier error about the iGOR port already being open, I presume that's because I was trying to set it to listen when it was already doing so via the console.

I've not had problems like this before and we always follow Friday's PSC race.

 I think this was a very fitting tribute to Joe as it was a very fast race ( certainly from where I was !!) with Art dominating as per Joe's usual way of racing.

Before anyone hurls abuse at me for not taking the Waza  ::), I sought special dispensation from HER to allow me to drive some different machinery in this memorial series.

The fact that I have hardly driven anything except a Honda for years certainly showed, and I had my work cut out getting anything like a setup that worked. The result was that I had a relatively quick car that insisted on spinning up the rear tyres whenever I applied the gas out of every corner!!
Occasionally I judged the throttle application correctly and exited one or two corners smoothly but, because the car was setup to give some oversteer with power, I was struggling to bring the nose around and avoid running wide. As a result I often had to give the car a lump of power just to kick the ass around to get the car pointing in the right direction!! That did not do the tyre temps any favours and gradually the temps climbed.
Until that point I was quite comfortable in 2nd place following Art, although I could not make any impression on his 2 second lead without taking undue risks...and once the tyres started to overheat he stretched away.

Then Juha decided to get his a** in gear and started to threaten me with his Lotus. It was about this point in the race that I realised I had probably miscalculated my fuel and getting to the finish would be a marginal affair!! :o    Short shifting and trying to carry speed through the corners in a higher gear DOES NOT WORK with a setup like mine I discovered and it just caused me more opp lock and higher tyre temps  :-\, which all played into Juha's hands. Stowe was where I finally lost control and ran wide allowing Juha an easy pass.
Great pace from Juha took him away from me and right up to Art where a few more laps might have given him a chance of the top step of the podium...or ended in a tangle that gifted me the win??  ::) ;D
Actually there was very little chance of any higher than 3rd unless Juha and Art totalled themselves, as my fuel was evaporating rapidly.
As I crossed the line the engine had just begun to cough and the fuel pressure dropped below 20psi..I would not have made another lap!!!
Grats to all on a good showing and two servers running as a tribute to Joe. This mini series should give some great battles I hope.  ;D

A big thank you to everybody who was involved in this and for organising a terrific memorial to Joe.

I am arranging for a trophy for the overal series winner and if it could become an annual series I would be delighted to support it with ongoing server donations.

Joe's Dad

I think that is to finish fourth, first you have to go forth...

Sorry I couldn't make it. I was attending a performance of Mozart's Requiem which my sister was singing in. I said a few prayers for Joe instead...

I'm honored to be taking part, and hope we're making a fitting tribute that he'd appreciate :)

Unfortunately as the results show I was somewhat off pace last night - perhaps my choice to step back into my faithful Waza after a few seasons in the Brabham didn't help, but I was 2 seconds off my old pace anyway due to seating issues here.
TBH I doubt I'd have troubled the leaders even if I'd taken a Lotus :(

Have recently gained a new job so once a house is sorted in a few months I'll be building a rig around my race seat and will be back on pace with a vengeance next season ;)

I did wonder who that was the first time. No worries, just a shame I couldn't avoid you (both times, the Stowe collision I wish I could have seen earlier, but hey ho)!

Tried dialling in the Eagle in practice, but had issues with lots of oversteer making things interesting. Also got pole-axed twice in the pits when people kept bombing through it full chat without regard for those about to join.

As an aside, and a general note to all, please be careful in the pits during practice/qualifying for any race. Silverstone is a little unique in that the pits are separated by a barrier from the track, but there is still a slow and fast lane within that, and enough room for 2-wide. Some people had swapped the definition of slow and fast lane (at Silvy fast is on the left, slow is on the right) and collided with me - twice (once is bad enough, but twice is bordering on inexcusable). Also it may sound obvious but use your mirrors when joining!

Aside from that, I'm amazed I kept lap 1 clean compared to my, ahem, prior history. That said, it was a well contested affair, even with the two collisions with Bob. The Eagle had reasonable pace, and without damage I may have had a shout at a podium, but twas all mays and no pays.

Hope Joe was watching us and smiling. :)

Really glad to have won at least one for this Trophy, and tagged my name to it somehow, this will be one I will cherish. The fact that it was fast paced and hard fought against pretty tough competition only adds satisfaction to it, fitting tribute to Joe's racing style I would say!

Rather surprised to be starting on pole, as I thought Hristo was going to be there, for once I managed to be quick off the blocks and give it full beans right from the opening laps. It was no surprise when I saw Clive was the one behind me, we seem to be playing over and over a rather repetitive script, racing in close company practically every race for a while now! This time it was his turn to be the persistent chaser, until after the first third of the race I managed to nail a couple of good laps and shake him off my back. This track has a rather hypnotic flow to it, brake-turn right-gas, which tends to send you in a bit of a daze if you are running by yourself for a while. So, just when I was getting all confy and starting to flavour the imminent present of an unexpected win, I had to be abruptly woken up by my pitboard man, who rather anxiously (it seemed to me.. ;)) signalled me Juha was now behind me, and had already started making up some serious ground. No need to panic, 6 seconds in the lead and 8 laps to go, just need to stay calm. So, after a very  very near miss of a very slow and very smoking Honda sitting on the racing line, 2 or 3 excursions on the grass, and 3 straight laps in the 29s, I had a rather feisty JH right on my tailpipes  ::). Fortunately, at that stage I had finally regained my cool and could start pushing with no more mistakes, 5 laps at full speed and a very close finish were to follow. Grats to JH and Clive for some very good racing, and to all who took part to the bitter-sweet event. Hope Joe has enjoyed the show up there  ;).  

I will see you at the next one guys, thank you for the racing.

Replays are uploading at the moment and will be done in the next ten minutes or so.

A big thank you to everyone who turned out for this one. It was great to see the regular Works crew joined by the returning Jethro and Tim, hopefully Hristo will be able to compete in the other two events as well. As Attilio showed though there's no substitute for track time and he continued his good recent form with another win. Someone will have to step up to prevent him getting his hands on the trophy which Joe's Dad has offered up for the series winner.

I enjoyed my race on the other server with the Privateers, plus guest driver Arf who provided a benchmark for us all in qualifying. Cookie kindly hosted on UKGPL8 at very late notice, however without a loose grid there was something of a pile up and I ended lap one in last place after starting second.

Like Arf I enjoyed picking my way through the field in the early laps. After a while Arf hit trouble at Club and I got past, leaving me to try and chase down Geoff's big lead. A spin at Chapel with two to go spoiled a potentially thrilling finish but it was great fun nonetheless. Well done to Geoff on taking full advantage of the start line melee.

See you all in two weeks when the Works boys are at Brands Indy and the Privateers battle resumes at Rouen.

I can sum my race up in just one word ...............



Rubbish !

Same here Bernie!
I'd spent the afternoon playing stuck-in-the-mud with the kids and had ran myself harder than I have done in years with a result that by evening time I was shattered! By lap 4 I had lost all feeling in my legs and so pulled over and quit and went straight to bed!

Sounds like you had fun getting knackered  ;D

My excuse,  all day spent removing rose bushes then digging a friends garden over for him , then a long drive home from North wales , all after a night on the tiles  ::)

So not just the limbs numbed but sore eyes and head not fully connected to the outer extremities  ;)

Always swear "never again" but have to admit to not being very good at taking my own advice  :-\

Incedentaly Arf was warping like crazy , thought it was my bad head seeing this fezzer suddenly appearing from nowhere,  first in front , then behind (OK I should have gone to specsavers )

Thought I could hear his engine at times but he was obviously racing in stealth mode . Lap2 , Arf who was obviously recovering from the lap 1 fiasco came up the outside into beckets ? and then dissapeared off into the boondocks , thought we touched but the replay shows it was warp, then later on in the race I think the same may have happened at stowe .

Just like Arf to know it was nothing personal , but the big insult was me being lapped "at Silverstone" . Oh the shame  :'(

Looking on the bright side , the next race has got to be better as it couldnt possibly be worse  ;D

Joe would probabably be a bit embarrased as he never wanted to be a centre of attention, although he loved getting on a podium. I suspect though that secretly he would be really delighted.

 ;D

Mod published.