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Title: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: H@L9000 on April 18, 2012, 09:45:14 PM +0100
UKGTR SEASON 16 LOWER ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP  - ROUND 2

All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 BST (20 mins)
Qual 2:       20:20 BST (20 mins)
Race:          20:40 BST (60 mins)- note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GT2 from the UKGTR car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) v2.16.0.0
Track: Nürburgring (GP) v2.0.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_nurburgring)
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable - Based on real world conditions.
- Forecast to be released at 19.30 BST on race day.
- Weather generated randomly using custom UKGTR weather generator.
- The in game ambient temp used will be no lower than 12 degrees C despite the real word ambient temp.
- No heavy or monsoon levels of rain will be used.
- All sessions will use the exact same weather to give drivers an idea of what will happen in the early stages of the race.
- Real world ambient temp readings will be taken from local day time at the real race track but, rain probability readings will be taken from the real race track at 19.30 BST.

FORECAST
 START CONDITIONS
 Weather: Dry with cloud
 On line: Dry
 Off line: Dry
 Ambient: 19.00
 Track: 16.53
 FORECAST CONDITIONS
 Probability of rain: 0%
 Early Conditions:  Dry
 Mid Race Conditions:  Dry
 Late Race Conditions:  Dry



Tyre wear: normal.
Fuel consumption: x2.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: simracing.org.uk GT2
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=356;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.




EDIT - Forecast released


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on April 26, 2012, 03:34:09 PM +0100
Am getting 2 minute laps with the 997. Might be able to get another second off of that but its tough. The kerbs seem to be deadly on this track.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: H@L9000 on April 27, 2012, 05:52:46 PM +0100
I do enjoy this track.

It could be a bit tricky in the Panoz however. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on April 27, 2012, 06:38:18 PM +0100
Free drifting lesson needed for H@L :-)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: spanner on April 28, 2012, 05:33:56 PM +0100
Struggling to connect, booted as possible cheat all the time. Just tried about 10 times, and i've re-downloaded the track....hmm... ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on April 28, 2012, 05:49:22 PM +0100
try going in with a different car then comming out then back in again with the car you use, That worked for me once.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Truetom on April 28, 2012, 07:00:12 PM +0100
Struggling to connect, booted as possible cheat all the time. Just tried about 10 times, and i've re-downloaded the track....hmm... ???

Same here. tried 4 times with 4 diff cars. :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on April 28, 2012, 07:20:48 PM +0100
I have figured it out its a problem that H@L can only fix. Ill let him know.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: H@L9000 on April 28, 2012, 09:09:25 PM +0100
I will get it sorted in about an hour or so.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: spanner on April 28, 2012, 09:28:46 PM +0100
Huh??  ???


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: H@L9000 on April 28, 2012, 11:12:05 PM +0100
The server should be working again now. No more booted as possible cheat.

A mod that we had put on was causing issues.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Manteos on April 29, 2012, 02:23:18 PM +0100
I should be able to race this evening. At the moment I managed a 1.54.5 in P1 with the 911 GT3-RS in race trim, so I will probably be a bit faster during the race.

If someone want to give a try to my setup... link => http://vda.forumfree.it/?act=Attach&type=post&id=495981679 (http://vda.forumfree.it/?act=Attach&type=post&id=495981679)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Mark J on April 29, 2012, 04:16:09 PM +0100
oop, good job i checked in this afternoon as i had thought it was the postponed Bahrain round! and hadnt done a lap of pracy at Nurby  :P

Have now though  ;) Not as fast as Manteos unfortunately.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on April 29, 2012, 10:01:52 PM +0100
Great race for me even though I finished stone dead last.

Decided to go for soft on front and med on rear which worked well for me kept the same front only changed the rears and added fuel in the pit towards the end I had a couple of spins but nothing major.

Only problem I had which was the same as last week was I set the radiator too low and started getting hot quite early on but I stuck with it and was down to 40%ish health by the end.

Probably the cleanest race I have had so far. And I didn't get lapped by everyone  :laugh: YAY


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Berger R - 74 on April 29, 2012, 10:11:31 PM +0100
that was a hard race,

i was in front the first half of 1st stint, but i saw that johnM was faster a lot in the corners, only that his lambo was so slow in straights did save me.
but then he was very close in finish straight and i did know, not it is time that he will overtake me, so i did not much fight (my tyres was already not realy much good, rear was orange to hot) and i did then try
to stay behind him, but this did not happen.
if we both did stop in lap 16 he was already 4-5 sec. in front, but to my surprise i was then 8-9 sec. in front of him after the pitstops.
in beginning i did not loose much time, i did loose little time in lapping 2times and it looks same did happen to him too, so i was 7 sec. in front perhaps only 5 laps before end, but
then suddently he did drive like a rocket, i was totaly shocked, not often i do loose so much time each lap.
he did closed the gap much and in end of race he was only 0.3 or 0.4 sec. behind me, he did fastest race lap in last lap too, unbelievable, my tyres was dead again and i was happy that we must not drive another lap -).

was a much entertaining race, i had a very good speed and the complete race was extrem clean (johnM behind me and the lapping cars too).

well done johnM for unbelievable fast race, especialy in end of stints and normaly you should be the winner
and well done to H@lo900 for podium too (but your nickname is dump to write always for me;) )

servus


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: JonM_uk on April 29, 2012, 11:15:32 PM +0100
That was lots of fun 8)
I had a great fight with Berger in the race. I was a little quicker but when I was on his rear I never really had any chance to get past due to the speed difference between the cars so I had to wait for a little error. I managed to get past and pull out a few seconds before the pits, after the pits I came out 8 seconds behind. I filled to 100 Litres which only just lasted to the end of the race and new tyres. I tried a little too hard and made mistakes here and there but then got into a nice rhythm at the end of the race and really pushed hard, even after all those laps of 'maximum attack' I only just got to Berger's tail for the last few corners which was never enough time to get past. To be honest I don't think I'd have got past with quite a few laps left because getting past down a straight was never going to happen. The BMW looked a struggle to drive with the Lambo being so much faster in the corners and also killing the tyres alot quicker, could be just setup though. A quick apology to JPV who I nearly ran off the track on the last bend, he gave me space to go past but I ran in a bit deep chasing Berger.

Grats to Berger and H@L
Nice race all
Cya next time :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Mark J on April 30, 2012, 08:24:46 AM +0100
That was another cracking race, this new GT2 series is panning out to be a real corker with intense close racing throughout.  8)

I qualied well sitting just behind the aliens in 5th? i think, really pulling out some faster new pb's for me just to get that place, and was quite chuffed as the times were getting damned fast by everyone.
First 25 minutes of the race were banzai bananas as i fought tooth and nail to stay in a 3-4 car fight with API, Manteos, ApexUSA and one or two others who kept closing. It was frantic fast paced stuff and all clean  :fencing:
Then Spanner caught up with me and chased extremely hard upto the pitstops. Spanner pitted before me and i quickly decided that if i stayed out until my planned stop, my hard pressed tyres would cost me too much time and allow him past. So i did one more lap and pitted, all smoothly!, and emerged from my stop 'just' in front of Spanner without dropping any places  :o
Spanner then pushed me extremely hard for the next 15-20minutes and i couldnt relax for a moment, it was hard work!
But with about 7 mins remaining he must have had a spin or off as he disapeared from my view and for the first time in 53 mins i didnt have a car attacking my rear view! I was 5th and also had a 13 second lead over TT so thought i could relatively coast to the finish line for a fine finish behind 4 aliens.
But....no, i got the dreaded low fuel warning with 2.5laps to go!  :o I was dumbstruck after such a hard drive and now had to shortshift for one lap, then coast at half throttle for another lap. I had no defence to stop TT closing and passing and nicking my hard earned 5th place  :'( I also 'just' had enough juice to squirt down the s/f straight in front of spanner, crossing the line with 1.4L left  :o for 6th.
What a race!  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: SRW on April 30, 2012, 01:17:23 PM +0100
an exciting race, even though i was at the back! my only problem was during the pitstop when i had to queue up behind some one and lost a few seconds

Is there a maximum number of cars allowed before you have to share pits? is there a way of knowing whether you have to share a pit and who you have to share with? (so you can avoid going in on the same lap)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: spanner on April 30, 2012, 01:26:37 PM +0100
Rather than turning up unannounced at your pit, you need to request it, there is a pit request kiy in the controls you need to bind. I normally press that in the first half of the lap, and you will get a 'pit in this lap' message back from your pits. This also means they will be there waiting for you, rather than waiting for them to run out of the garage. If you get any other kind of message when pressing the pit request button it normally means there is someone pitting near yours.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: H@L9000 on April 30, 2012, 04:43:04 PM +0100
Results (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=357&theme=3) and replay (https://replay.simracing.org.uk/) now uploaded.

Sorry for the delay.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: H@L9000 on April 30, 2012, 05:08:18 PM +0100
If you get any other kind of message when pressing the pit request button it normally means there is someone pitting near yours.

I find that you have to make the request, wait for a bit and then the pit crew say "come in end of this lap" in which case you are good to pit or "please repeat" in which case you have to press the request button again. However, sometimes nothing seems to happen and the pit in indicator does not light up blue. This is the indication that someone is in your pit box or someone has requested a pit stop and is about to pit in your pit box. If nothing seems to happen after a few trys then go round for another lap and try again. If you cant because you are low on fuel or what ever then you have no choice but, to park and wait of course.

Very hard race. :sweatdrop:

I had a good fight in the first few laps with API behind and Matteo in front. It was not too long before Matteo made a mistake that allowed me to pass and I managed to build up a bit of a gap. I guess due to the fight going on behind me on the track.

The race then got a bit lonely as Jon and Berger started to leave me behind and I built up more of a gap behind me as well. I knew that Mateo could still pass me in the pits so I had to stay on the limit which can be difficult when by your self, I find.

I seemed to make an earlier stop than most other drivers and I was beginning to wonder when Matteo and API would stop as the race started to draw to a close. Finally with 10 mins left on the clock, Matteo and API pitted but, Matteo was very close behind me as he exited. I made a few small mistakes as I tried to build a gap again and he stayed on me for a few laps but, then I did managed to increase the gap.

I was surprised at the pace that I managed to achieve in the Panoz on that track. All 4 of my medium tyres were shredded by the pit stop and by the end of the race however. ;D

Grats Berger and Jon.

Well done all and thanks for taking part. Good turn out. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Manteos on April 30, 2012, 07:02:08 PM +0100
In the first 10 laps, I probably did 1 mistake per lap, and my race was mostly a position swap every corner. I felt disoriented, cause the markers on the tarmac simply disappeared in the passage from qualif. to race, and I had no other references.
After I re-gained the 5th position behind API, we started a good duel for some laps, and we went ahead in this situation up to the pit stop, in which I entered before him, due to an error of Api a couple of laps before our pit.
Unfortunately I lost too much seconds on H@l during the first laps, so even with a perfect pit without tyre change, I came back on track just behind him. H@l seemed to be on fresh tires, and I had no chance to try an attack during the first 2 laps, in which he did a couple of small mistakes. Then he totally escaped by my sight during the last 3 laps, cause I was really in crisis with the tyre wear.
However it was a funny race, and that's the most important thing. Next time I will be more careful with this car, admitting that I will stay with it. This Porka is really difficult to drive without a proper setup, and mine was surely not a good one... but i realized it too late.
Grats to the podium for the amazing pace during all the race :o :o

Hope to see you even with the prototypes on Sunday. Bye :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: spanner on May 01, 2012, 09:11:57 AM +0100
Well that was one amazing race. This is why i still love GTR2!

Couldnt believe the turn out, good to see a few old faces back. Only did one early run in qually so ended up just watching a few people end up ahead. Couldnt really judge where the start line was so misjudged when to go and had Apex come steaming into the first corner. Also realised quickly i was losing out massively in the braking for the chicane, suddenly looking back and they are right there!

Dont really remember too much accept chasing TT early on and slowly managing to catch up as it looked like the group ahead were stuck behind someone. Managed to get past though TT falling off in that things wis more liekly as it looked a handful at times! Then seemed to be chasing Jonzo for most of the race which was fun. But i was just getting more and more ragged as i pushed too hard round here, seems to be one of those tracks. I didnt have enough to pass as i seemed slower down the straights but could always slwoly get back behind after making a mistake.

Using XD to set your stops up is a god send and saves loads of time, barely looked at the pit stop details hoping it would counteract the rather gentle entry i had. But the next lap out had MJ come right out next to me and tried to force it over that lap as i would have had slightly better tyres but couldnt so had to sit behind and just try to force the issue for the rest of the race. However i was just pushing too hard and not sure what happened but spun it out of the hairpin with TT and nsfast managing to get ahead as i rejoined. Was sereiously considering ragequitting then but carried on and slowly managed to catch nsfast who seemed a bit slow in places but lightning fast in others! and then spend the last few laps trying to get past but just couldnt. Was completly knackered at the end of it from the concentration, no really chance to relax at all through the race. 

Hope the next one is just as good 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: picnic on May 01, 2012, 09:30:17 AM +0100
Using XD to set your stops up is a god send and saves loads of time

Oh, I had better investigate this. Not sure if my stop was slow or not but I had the pit crew moaning as I was trying to reduce the fuel and stop the tyre change. After losing out so massively in the Spa race changing tyres I decided not to bother. Wear was a little excessive in the end, almost 30 on the front left and the rears on over 25. Had med/hards on.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Mark J on May 01, 2012, 01:02:29 PM +0100
what worries me, is i felt like i drove the absolute nuts off my car throughout the entire race and qually, with no let up, and yet still could make no impression on the front 4 !  :'(  Definitely felt the fastest and longest ive had to drive on the edge for a long while, more like driving a GT1 car. The front guys here now have a ridiculous amount of pace!  :P
Great to see a good turnout too, dont think we've had that many GT2 runners in about 2 years  :-\ and the close action throughout the grid proves the racing is as intense and exciting as ever.  8)

Two races on the trot i've lost top 5 finishes in the dying laps to fuel consumption in the 997, was there some tweaking done in the car pack for this season? Though i expect its more my dodgy fuel calculations from tactically forced earlier stops.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: spanner on May 01, 2012, 01:22:54 PM +0100
XD gives you the usage per lap, its not hard to calculate likely pace, total laps then total fuel needed. Starting with a full tank i know i needed to put in an additional 35L. Its the maths while driving to work out what i need to set it to based on what i think the fuel level will be when i stop is the hardest.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on May 01, 2012, 01:31:15 PM +0100
That's too hard for me to figure out. All I do is go into the garage and put 5 more laps worth of fuel than what it says I need based on what I decide to do stop wise lol. So much easier but probably get slower lap times but that's fine with me.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: quicksilver384 on May 01, 2012, 01:32:58 PM +0100
I am noticing a trend here though. I reckon the top 4 or 5 drivers should use GTC cars to give the rest of us a chance  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 16 Lower Endurance - Nürburgring (GP) - Apr 29
Post by: Truetom on May 03, 2012, 12:41:37 PM +0100
A bit late, but... BiT is more than a handful for me but I'm stubborn and this car is really no worse than Marcos. ;D So I will stick with it but then we're quits, really a hard car to drive on the edge, I admire what ginsters or JonM could do with it.

Yea, was a fast pace in the second pack and one mistake forced me to go over it all again. Well satisfied with the end result, I think it was a max what could be achieved with me behind the wheel. ;) Good race with Spanner, nsfast and MJ - might be some others but I don't remember, too much action going on, mostly car made me busy the whole time. :scared: :wacko:

Nice to see some more cars / people on track. :)