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UKGPL Season 22 GT Teams Championship
Race 10 Carthage

The final race in this seasons GT Team Championship is out amongst the sand dunes, where the bigger cars can blow dust in the faces of the smaller competitors whilst dodging stray camels.
The Porsches and Mk1 Fords might be looking for a good draft around here, but with such long high speed sections it might develop into a 2 class race again.
Note that as this is the last race of the season we have a slightly longer event, so make sure that you top up with fuel and water.


The point at which the racing will start on the rolling lap will be as cars take the small left kink just before the start line

Please check the Season 22 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=335&theme=6) regarding rules and the GT Teams Championship (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=338&theme=6) pages in particular.

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The GT races are run under Int Long rules and there will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident. Drivers are reminded that they are limited to ONE Shift-R

Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

Race List = iGOR
Server = T7_2
IP address =62.149.202.168
Race date = 25/03/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Carthage
Variant = GT mod
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 26 laps
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

There will be rolling starts for all races with full moderation of both the warm-up and first lap.

Guidelines for rolling starts...

The car on pole will lead off the grid and maintain a steady pace for the 1st lap around 175kph
All drivers should form up in single file behind him leaving 3-4 car lengths between each car.
There is NO OVERTAKING on the 1st lap until the exit of the last corner.
It is the reponsibility of the lead car to ensure that all drivers are with him as he approaches the final corner.
Racing and overtaking begin AFTER the exit of the last corner, so you may overtake between the exit of the last corner and the S/F line.

Any driver who loses his position on the rolling lap, by going off, blowing his engine or through contact with another car ( regardless of fault) must rejoin at the back of the field.
Incidents on the rolling lap ( Lap 1) will be fully modded and anyone found to have caused another competitor to lose position through bad driving will be penalised appropriately.
Also, please make sure that you know which car you should be following on the rolling lap, so that you do NOT get out of position.

The teams have been chosen and the cars are polished and ready to go.

TEAMS

GT International Team
Juha Hallikainen, David Rainier, Axel "Cookie"   
Cars                     
Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B, Lola T70 MkIII


Team 7
Fulvio Policardi, S2173, Samb
Cars
Lola T70, Mirage M1, Porsche 910


Hiki Waza Racing
EvilClive, Nigel Smith, FMG?
Cars
Porsche 910, Lola, Ford GT40 Mk4


Clark Hill Racing
Al Heller, King Hiro, Geoff Heard
Cars
Mirage M1, Lola T70, Porsche 910


Team Green
Doni Yourth, Phil Thornton, Jason Blito
Cars
Ferrari, Ford GT40 Mk2B, Porsche 910


Team Godzilla
Alex Barresi, Mark75 Barresi, Badblood   
Cars                     
Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B, Ford Mk2B



Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=338;theme=6)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

excuse evil,  26 laps is correct? The average speed for one lap is over 3 minutes, so the race should last 80 minutes ...

You'll just have to drive quicker Mark  ;D

I think it should be 16

Last event is 90 min. race, as in last season; and 26 laps are ok, according this.
I only suggest to start race after exit "A la Marsa" bend, it's more safe for all, imho.

Alex is correct. This is a the last race and is longer as it says in the race post..

"Note that as this is the last race of the season we have a slightly longer event, so make sure that you top up with fuel and water."

The heat , the sand and the flies might test some of the cars durability , to say nothing of the driver's?

We could have allowed the race to start from "A la Marsa", but I thought that we would allow all the cars to form up in a rolling grid until we get to that left kink. There is still about a kilometre of straight after we cross the start line, so everything should spread out before T1.

Oops - so it is - you sadist...

Apologies to my team mates Donni and Jason but I can't make this one but given that it is my turn to take the Porsche I doubt my presence would make any difference at this track!

Thanks to Clive for organising the GTs this season.  It is a difficult championship to get right but given the standings in the championship are pretty even it looks like Clive got it just about right (although I wish we'd had a few more tokens to spend on a faster 3rd car ::) )

Good luck Team Green, we have a chance to overhaul the Clark-Hill Racing and get off the bottom of the table (if they don't turn up ;) )

Can you clarify what track we're racing? Carthage 35 or Tripoli as for the registration thread?
Just to be sure what track I have to install on server.
Ciao

Fulvio you have to install Carthage (1935)! 
Tripoli can not yet be imported...

Thx Axel,
T7 server is set to 26 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Console session.
Ciao

Sorry to learn that my Supremo, Phil, won't be able to make the season finale.  Thanks for recruiting me this season, PT.  It was great fun!  And yes indeed, my thanks to Clive for organizing.

As I'd mentioned earlier in the Reims GT thread, I've been contemplating giving this Carthage round a miss to attend the season opener of club races at Mosport.  The odds were 50-50 at the time.  I'm now thinking that it's more like 75-25 against so I may get to drive the big Mk2 after all.  :)

Count me out of this one !
90 minutes !!!
This is supposed to be for fun, not for pain !!!


Good luck to all who enter, hope your eyes don't bleed too much

LOL Jason, I remember you in GPFun67 championships we had/have races of 90 mins.

I think you have me confused with someone else there Sergio - Ive never raced with GPfun.

The Mosport gig is off.  Looks like I'll be free to enter the Ford Mk2 for Team Green.

Yes Jason I was talking about myself thinking that one knew that the GPFun67 championship have contests of 90 mins!  ;)

Not a happy bunny - that's 2 out of 2 season finales where I've been in with a shout of the race win only to be defeated by technical gramlins  :censored:

Hope I didn't cause any major incidents at the start, Clicked the green button and my monitor went into standby - tried hitting it, cycling through the inputs and doing everything I could before the flag dropped. I guess from one of the comments that it did drop before I exited but the lack of revving engines failled to make me realise  :-[

Hope Tuesdays finale to the Am's goes better...

Good luck guys

Bad luck indeed, Tim.

I wish your gremlin had struck me instead!  It would have saved me putting up an embarrassing performance studded with offs, collisions and a very lack lustre drive.  That I didn't do any pre-race practice really struck home as I was just Nowheresville.

Apologies to Team Green.

I enjoyed this race too. Found my cozy spot behind the drag of the Mk2 Fords. Struggled a bit to pass a backlapper and there was a gap I panickly wanted to reduce in half a lap and went qualspeed into the curvy parts.Its doable but I have to be determined,ease of acc slowly and brake in the right counterturn.It only became halfdetermined since speed scared me and I tried to get rid of it too early and went too deep in the entry .Became a ping pong ball  some seconds. Luckily I didn t suffer much dam(the car felt funny) and when Alex did a mistake some laps later I glued him as best as I could the rest of the race hoping for an upportunity to pass, but it never came. I did an all out try on last lap but became ping pong ball again..(like I had any chance to pass alex on the twitchy brakedown to the hairpin). This time I got real damage but limped easily the straight to finish 3 rd :)

A real shame that the gremlins screwed your race Tim. Even more so, because I was stranded behind your stationary car!!  lol Eventually the grid got away on the rolling lap but not before sneaky Al had poached my place ;)

I had been hoping that I could get up behind Tim's Mk4 when the race started and get towed along because one thing was certain, there was no chance of my Lola keeping up without some serious drafting!!!
I thought that Mark did a good job of getting the whole grid lined up  before the kink and when he took off, along with Alex Tom and Axel, I knew that if I was to have any chance of keeping in touch I needed to get past Al and pick up the tow. So on the run down to T1 I decided that I was going to have to pass Al whether he wanted me to or not!!
That put me on Axel's tail with a small gap up to Tom, Alex and Mark. But that gap was stretching ever so slowly and I was concerned that the leading trio would get away.
The big problem was that although Axel's Mk2 was faster down the long straights, I was much later on the brakes and quicker through the corners but it was hopeless trying to pass him because he would just blow past on the next straight with his higher top speed. :-\
If I risked everything and took the revs up to the red line I might have just made a pass in a couple of places, but that would almost certainly screw the engine before the end of the race :( So I sat behind Axel and and waited as Juha began to close from behind.
I had no answer to the extra speed of the Mk2's except to sit in the slipstream of the 2 Mk2's and wait for a mistake :-\

Even when Axel and Juha managed to do a formation detour into the sand at the hairpin and I got a 400mtr lead they caught me within a lap because of the extra speed down the straights. Then Axel dug himself an even bigger hole in the sand and left Juha and me fighting over 4th place. Juha closed and then had an argument with one of the few barriers around her and I was away again, this time with 800 mtrs lead  :shifty: Maybe I could hold this lead??
But slowly Juha was eating away at my lead and then I was looking at prib when I should have been looking at the road and I went off at the hairpin. By the time I had climbed out of the sand Juha had swept past, but what was worse, was that he was beyond slipstream range by the time I got going and I was stuffed!!! :-\
The rest of the race (almost another 30minutes!!) was spent pressing as hard as I dared without risking the engine and hoping for some problems for the front runners....which did not happen :-\

Grats to Mark who was the most consistant driver in this series and really had that Mk2 sorted for almost every race and to Team International for getting (just) enough points to take the Team Championship..subject to moderation.


Thanks to all those who took part in this series and for the very high standard of driving shown by everyone. There have been very few incidents reported and even fewer unreported ones.

Yep the Lola was rather frustrating to drive here - so quick on corner entry (even for me :P ) but distinctly underpowered on the long straights (assuming you'd geared it so it could last 26 laps...) The start was interesting - with Tim's stricken car blocking Clive's path, I had no option but to nick Evil's hard-fought qualifying slot off the grid (I did expect Clive to repass me on the warmup - honest Guv ;) ). I assumed that an extra long race on this engine-breaking track would see a bucketload of retirements (wrong!) so geared the Lola pretty conservatively... clearly I went a bit too far with that because both Clive & Sky's Lolas were able to breeze past me on the straight during the early laps.

Lap 7 - got a perfect tow on Sky & repassed him down the straight as we approached T1 - quick check in the mirror at the 200m board & Sky looked to be about a car length behind... I half-expected he would gobble me up easily on the following straight so I was a little surprised to see him trying to retake the place around the outside of T1 after we'd turned in! I tried to leave room - held as tight a line as I could on the inside but momentum was always going to push me slightly wide & I guess warp did the rest - there's no actual contact on my client replay but nevertheless a collision occurred & we collected an unfortunate Doni in the process. This excursion allowed Fulvio through & after that I spent the rest of the race in a very hard-fought battle with his Mirage over 7th - lost count of how many times we passed each other but it was great fun. Shame Fulvio's engine started playing up at the end.
 
Congrats to driver's champion Mark & team champs Team International - & special congrats to teammate Tom for pedalling his Mirage way up in 3rd :thumbup1: 

Actually I was more suprised, Al... after all that hard work to repass me, you just like gave it up and brake about 50 meters earlier... I couldnt do anything about it, so I just kept the outside hoping you would stay inside... And as I was outside, i had to keep to power up or the car would go out of track. Just an unfortunate incident, but I am once again in the middle of it.

Oh well, season 22 started bad, continued worse and now finishes awful as well... i probably finished 5 races, and was in all leagues. Hopefully s23 will be better, its sounds abit like my name...

[I deleted my previous message as I mistakenly entered completely the wrong figures :P]

I didn't think I had braked that early Sky, but the replay shows you were indeed significantly quicker at the 100m board. My apologies if I left you nowhere to go. 
I was quicker at 300m (courtesy of the tow) but then I was about 8mph slower at 100m, partly I guess because I'd taken the tight inside line... damn those GPL collision boxes...   

Lap 5 (Sky leading) - 194mph @ 300m - 193mph @ 200m - 156mph @ 100m
Lap 6 (Sky leading) - 193mph @ 300m - 193mph @ 200m - 162mph @ 100m

Lap 7 (Al leading)   - 198mph @ 300m - 190mph @ 200m - 150mph @ 100m
Lap 7 (Sky behind) - 191mph @ 300m - 191mph @ 200m - 158mph @ 100m

Had quite a giggle in this race - I can't drive the Ford Mk II and I do feel that I cost my team the championship as I cost us a ton of points at Rouen and I didn't make eight rounds... it probably would have been enough. Big sorry to Mark and Alex.

Couldn't do more than I did in this race however, I just couldn't get the big beast to turn so I was very cautious into a couple of the sharper turns and I still crashed. I timed my pit stop to let the first three past (I wasn't going to take out my team leader again :( ) and then Clive was catching me... I carefully timed it so that he could go past me on the S/F straight and then I effortlessly caught him up and could have passed him -  arrrrrrgggggghhhhh. That is not what I wanted but I marvelled that he could have lapped me with such low straight line speed.... huh - who needs corners anyway. I am going to see if there is a rendering of Santa Pod for next year...

Fun.

Put your thoughts up about next years GTs because it looks as if there will only be one series next season.

My post earlier was of brief nature due to time contraints.

I'd like now to congratulate Mark on the win and doff my hat to GT International for emerging as our Series Champs.  Well done.

Team Green will emerge from the ashes of S22GT and figure prominently in S23.

Hats off to Clive and all for organizing a great series!  :)

Al, this is from local replay or server replay?
Nice battle indeed  ;D
Ciao
Fulvio

Hi Fulvio,

That was from my local replay. Would the server be different?

Al

As you know local replay shows your local car right, but remote cars are delayed by lag, expecially on braking you'll see remote cars braking later than you and then catch the gap at the end of the braking zone. This is the more frequent cause of rearending.
On server replay you see all cars as remote so all are in the same boat, apart for those with high latency.
Ciao

"I am going to see if there is a rendering of Santa Pod for next year..."

Probably the nearest option would be Avus Paul.  ;)

Unfortunately it does have a rather awkward bend at either end of 2 MONSTER straights. :-\

In the Funliga GT championship we do oval races too, have you ever tried Grenzlandring? ;D
 

Thanks to everyone for the compliments, it was a beautiful GT Championship and are happy to have won the drivers' championship, but my biggest regret is not having fun seeing Paul when he drove the beast, and I'm sorry ...
So I dedicate the victory title to you ... Paul
For next season I hope that some changes are made ​​to the regulation so that there might be more competitiveness on the track among all drivers (example = slow driver with a faster car- fast driver with slow car), and especially that all cars in the GT model can be found at each race (the two Chaparral and Ford mk1 were absent in all competitions), I think we see in the grid all the cars is very nice.
And finally, congratulations to the GT INTERNATIONAL TEAM for winning the team championship ..

Ciao.

I agree with you, Mark !
All cars should be present at each race (remember, there was a Chapparal 2F at the real Targa Florio 1967 !!!)

Congratulations to Juha and Axel for their win in the championship with the GT international team. I tried to do my best, but GT cars are not my cup of tea ! 

Yeah, I am with youre  the missingg cars!

But you derserve well the title of the team Champion, as you were a real novice in GTs!!!

 Final moderation published.


This confirms  GT International as the TEAM champions...well done guys ;D

Mark came out as top points scorer and proved that the Mk2 Ford can be hustled around most tracks in a very competitive way.

I think all drivers should congratulate each other on their excellent driving standards through this series. I had very little to do as moderator other than check for SnG's which was refreshing. The racing was still hard fought and there were some excellent dices at various tracks through the season all the way through the field.


Plans are under way for next seasons GT series and there will be a few FUN races before we start a new championship.