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WELCOME TO THE UKGPL SEASON 23 HISTORIC (66) TROPHY  

For the second round we go to Portugal. The Monsanto track is a bit bumpy especially outside the tarmac and the haybales are quite sticky, so be aware.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race. Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

The Red Zone is from start up Riding school.

Reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying if it is full, to allow full timers to join.

Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none).

Do not rely on luck.
 
Race List =         iGOR
Server =            UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address =       62.149.202.168
Race date =       03-07-2012
Time =              Race start 21.30 UK time
Track =             Monsanto Park  1959   Grande Premio de Portugal
Variant =           66F1 3L engines
Damage Model =  PRO
Qualifying time =  >30 minutes. You are free to start as soon as the server is up but reserve drivers should not use the server between 35 and 30 minutes of qualifying if it is full, to allow full timers to join.
Race length =     Pro Long (26 laps)

The track can be downloaded from: http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2717


Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford
T1G Eagle Weslake

Group II
Lotus 43 BRM    
BRM P83


GroupIII
Ferrari 312
Brabham BT19
Cooper T81
Honda RA273


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I



Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II or Group I



All drivers have free chassis choice.


Password: See above
(2) Driver lists can be found here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=339&theme=6 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=339&theme=6)



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If you are struggling with the 66 setups you could try these, http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7722 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7722)

and if you would like to see how the track should be handled there are some good laps here, http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS21_js.htm# (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS21_js.htm#) just click on the Monsanto Park, season 21 Historics replay.

enjoy

Göran

Can't make this race sadly.

Please, everyone, make sure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10879.0)

At least my radio licence is safe  ;D

Are there no car restrictions for the 2nd round as well? I see no driver names under the groups.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=368&theme=6

"The handicap will only apply if the gap between drivers eligible for handicap and the next placed driver is 8 points or more"

with only one race and the points system used there cannot be any handicapping in the 2nd race .

john

Ah, thanks, I must've missed that.

another one for specsavers  ;D

Finally going to drive Monsanto in anything other than the McLaren. Let's see if the records can be brought down in the Wazamobile.  :)

I'm driving Dad's taxi tonight so I might not get back in time for this one.  Hope it goes well and good luck with the record breaking H  :alien:

H remember to beep when you pass me ( around lap 3 I should think ) will do my best to clear a path for you  ;D

IGOR down?

no

Forgot about the race, so joined with just 3 minutes to go, but it turned out I had 60 fps patch on, so had to quit and turn it off, and thus didn't do a timed lap in Q. The race started with a ridiculously spread out grid, some 20-30 meters between each car, so I could only begin to move when I saw a car in front move, 2 corners before the s/f line.

Passed some cars quickly, trying to cope with a bad handling Brands setup I copied over, but was progressing well. Went up to 9th and next was JR, who drove in a totally unnecessary defensive/blocking manner, turning left and right whenever I would close up, slowing us both down tremendously. Then I finally got him on the inside in the slower left near the end of the lap, but he choose to turn into me on the exit for no apparent reason (emotional perhaps), so that span me around.

I guess others retired because I was suddenly in 4th place a lap later, chasing down Evil who must have had problems, and we were both catching Al very quickly. I left some room between myself and Evil on the curving straight after the crest, and braked much earlier than usual, but he suddenly locked up, went sideways, lost a lot of speed and I had to lock my brakes to avoid him. That spun me into the hay bales and even though I continued, the car would barely turn right anymore, so it was pointless to continue. Disappointed.

Seems like I'm doomed in the 66 mod races  ??? waiting for the off and get disco'd , no chance to re join . Was hoping to improve on last seasons fiasco but its not going my way , must have done something bad in 1966  ::)

Well, apparently my piston broke... I tought my engine is running on zeros and ones, but I guess someone stuffed the piston there just to ruin my drive...

And I know exactly who did it... the criminal unwisely left alot of clues... like dog footprints on the car paint...and saliva in the engine parts...

On a side note, Hristo and Evil tried every "put the opponent in the haybales" Waza trick on me and I survived... Im quite happy with that atleast.

Apologies Hristo, my car was great during qually on full race fuel,and I pulled away at the start feeling very confident, but after 2 laps it just became a different animal!! It took me until half way through the race to learn how to drive it again.
Then I had huge fun chasing down Phil and Al. With just 4 laps to go I had caught Al and could see Phil just ahead, but it was not to be my day when Al ran a little wide and I had commited to following him through the twisty bits. I tried to tighten my line but only suceeded in flicking my rear out and clipping his car which fired me into the shrubbery.  :-\ That was the end of my chase , but considering the number of spins and offs I had through that race I am amazed that a) the car survived and b) that I was anywhere near the podium!!!.

Big Birthday grats to Phil..well done mate  ;D and to AL for another controlled drive to pick up good points and guarantee a handicap for the next race  ;)

Grats Phil, great present you made for yourself there! Happy Birthday!

Instead of being cryptic report it. Then we can deal with it.

I thought I wasn't going to make this race but I'm very glad I did.  I was pleased to qualify in 4th place (on race fuel) and the very loose grid meant I was probably the last car to actually see the flag drop!  I was on the apex of the last corner so practically everyone behind me would have had to wait until I moved before they could set off.  The result was a clean start for me and a comfortable defence of my 4th place into T1.  From then on I just tried to hang onto the leaders.  One by one they made mistakes and by lap 7 I found myself in the lead.  From then on it was "simply" a matter of driving carefully for the next 20 laps and waiting for the faster guys to catch up.  I didn't want to throw away the lead with a silly mistake, if anyone was going to beat me I was determined to make them work for it.  With 12 laps to go I had a 12 second lead over Al and the gap steadily reduced until with 2 laps to go I had a slim 2 second advantage.  But Al must have made a mistake on the penultimate lap because with 1 lap to go my lead was back up to 6 seconds.  The last lap was a bit nerve racking hoping that I'd put enough fuel in and that the car would hold together.

My first race win against top quality opposition (my other wins have been in the lower divisions) and on my 52nd birthday too.  Now I'm going to have a beer hot chocolate to celebrate  :wheelchair:

Many Happy Returns Phil and big congratulations. Not an easy track so this is really something. Well done.

Replays and analysis are available in the usual place (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS23_js.aspx).

I don't have replay for it... but next time I'll put a camera overnight to record any suspicious activities around my car...and I'll get that engine messing bastard...

Congrats Phil and Happy Birthday , hope you enjoyed your birthday as much (if not more ) than the race win  ;D

Replay is up and I think you'll find it is the start of Lap 3 you are looking for. Martin (I assume the less than heavily disguised comments refer to him) doesn't actually get anywhere near your car at any point. As for overnight cameras, I am unsure if this is an attempt at humour, but if so, it doesn't work for me.

  Congratulations Phil Thornton!!! :clap:

   I had no time even to make a one lap in Qualy. :blink:
   I went to the race without knowing exactly how the car would be.....is great to make some points. :whistling:

Paul, can't people just post their race comments and not be picked on about it? It appears as if you have a grudge with Sky and take his words seriously, but what if he's just joking, does he owe an explanation? Just let him have his fun (or lack of). If anyone should be responding it should be the target of his comments, not you, IMO.

Well done Phil, hope you don't get a hangover today from all those hot chocolates ;)

Generally, yes, but this could be construed as gratuitously offensive. Just making sure that Sky is aware that not everyone will find it hilarious. I certainly do not have a grudge with Sky but I am concerned that a growing grudge between Martin and Sky could end up ruining races for others. That's from my Mod POV.

From a personal point of view, I'm not bothered either way.

First of all


and a big  :thumbup2: to our team boss of Antipasti for the win! WD

Congrats to Phil for a belting birthday drive - a very well-judged & well-deserved win :thumbup1:

This was my 200th UKGPL race so I really fancied marking the occasion with a good result - though seeing as I've crashed out at Monsanto every time we've raced here before, it was going to be a major step forward just to get to the end in one piece... Clive scored a dominant win here last season so I was a bit shocked when he slid off in the opening laps & handed me the lead. Goran was looking threatening behind but then he caught a haybale & I found myself out front with 3 or 4 seconds of breathing space. A quick glance at Prib revealed I was going to need to get a shift on if I wanted to hold that lead as Phil, a recovered-Clive & Hristo were all gaining on me, but yet again I misjudged the Monsanto limit & managed to spin sideways & block the track in the middle of the T1/2 esses :wacko: I expected the next car to just plough full-pelt into my stricken car but compliments to Phil for having the good sense to brake hard & squeeze carefully through the gap (helped in part that I spun at exactly the same corner to let Phil past at last season's race :P )

With Hristo's retirement & Clive's second foray into the boondocks, I found myself back in 2nd & chasing down Phil who was now some 12 seconds ahead. With a couple of laps to go, Phil looked to finally be in striking distance, but all the while I'd been chasing down the leader, Clive had sneakily been chasing me down even faster & I got the shock of my life when I suddenly saw that accursed Honda hove into view in my mirrors yet again! Clive looked in no mood to hang about & just after the leap looked to be speeding up my inside so I took an ultra wide line to give him room (which probably didn't help matters) & we tangled - just a racing incident in my view but a real shame as this was shaping up to be a grandstand finish... Still, that rather handy delay for Clive meant I was safe in 2nd :) And I think Clive's 3rd place means he'll be joining me in the handicapped chassis for the next race ;D

We're not kids though, if someone doesn't find it hilarious or doesn't get it, then so what? As long as incidents are moderated, penalties handed without bias and drivers trying to improve, it's all fine IMO. And if they have a problem between themselves, it won't be solved by attacking either of them or limiting their freedom of expression. No swearing here, so I see no problem.

Thanks for the kind words gents.  I hope it doesn't take another 10 years and 376 races to win another one!

amazed to see you guys count races  ::)

Grats again to the podium of Phil (52 is the prime of life), Al and Clive. Commiserations to those who fell by the wayside. See you at Ahvenisto.

52 isn't a prime number Ronnie so it CANNOT be the Prime of life ;)

53 is though so Phil is just coming into his best...

According to Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent,..........

I thought 42 was the meaning of life and everything? ::) or are we getting too surreal here?

So people past 42 lose the meaning of their lives? Bleak...

 . . . . The meaning of life past 42, remains -1 second. ;D

 ;D

*thinks*

*thinks*

*thinks*

*brain explodes due to faulty piston*

Damn you, Hunt, youre messing with me for the last time!!!  :taz:

. . . . . . . deep thought has met it's match! ;)