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Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (24 laps)

Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35188), Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35189), Jaguar D-Type Download this (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35191), Mercedes 300SL Download this (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35718), Maserati 450S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s)

NEW ADDITION Aston Martin DBR2 Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22160621/AstonMartin_DBR2_V1_0.7z)

Track: Avus 1967 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_avus67)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk FIFT
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=358&theme=5)
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

New download link pending

Sorry Tony can't make this on coach tour of North Wales.  ;D

Hi.How to register for the race?I am a newbie to the forum.

Hi Kosta and welcome. No need to register, just turn up on race night. I take it you can connect to the Altbierbude lobby?

Maybe, as a test, try to see this event https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10213.msg185469#msg185469 being held on Monday but running on the lobby now.

Thanks

I have discovered that the new Aston Martin DBR2 does not have the class GTC-65 in it's .CAR file. The cars will not show up on your car selection menu without this fix. You need to replace the Class line of text with this

classes="SIM_FULL, SIM_LM55, SIM_4SDBR2, SIM_TOURING, SIM_DAG3NOT, SIM_GTC65"

Copy and paste the entire line (beginning with classes and ending with ") and replace the existing classes line.

You can use Notepad to edit the .CAR file but you may have to tell Windows to assign Notepad to be the editor if asked.

You need to do this for all four cars. Each one has it's own .CAR file.

If your still unsure about what to do (or doing it) here are some I made earlier

http://www.gamefront.com/files/22179496/102_SIM_GTC_ASTON_DBR2.zip

Thanks Tony for the heads up - I already feared that it would be "only" the "Altbierbude"-version but we have to use and modifiy it as long as
it isn't published at NoGrip too.

-

Don't want to complicate this matter needlessly but nikbear posted another small bug correction concerning exhaust smoke of
the DBR2 over at evolution-modding, which of course doesn't affect the working of the mod - only for us purists  ;D :

"You have to alter the exhaust settings in the #5 #63 #102 Car files to match the ones in the #49 car file,or the exhaust smoke comes out the wrong side,just remove the minus - sign in front to match"

Thanks to nikbear.


Will examine this tonight  :)

I noticed something else odd/wrong with this mod while testing at Avus last night. The rear left tyre seems to get warmer than the other three tyres for no good reason.

DBR2 now released over at NG:

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36372 (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36372)

And two collision fixes for the

DBR1: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36374 (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36374)

and

D-Type: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36373 (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36373)

 :)

You just beat me to it Kurt  :)

 8)

Another great sound - "correct" classes and the "exhaust smoke bug" has already been fixed.

So all we need is the nogrip DB2? Collision fix not necessary? but recommended.. The D-type fix zip file has no direction to where the file should go. I assume it should just be dropped in the Jaguar D-Type file? Thanks for your work Kurt and Tony 8)

edit: ok I tried that and when using either Jag I got a "no car present on server". Then took the collision file out and still got the error message. Then reinstalled the Jag with a fresh install with the same "no car present on server" ???. I can join with any other car no problems. Is it still on my end? Or could the server be without the Jag causing the error? The only thing I've done since the last race is add the Scirocco addon 8). I didn't see any possible conflicts there :-\

Could be I've screwed up, but I won't be able to fix till tonight.  :(

EDIT: Just had a quick look before I go to work. The Ferrari was missing but that's fixed now. Couldn't see anything wrong with the Jag tho. Can you try again and post here please?

When I get home tonight I will check whether I added the collision fix to the cars on the server.

It would be helpfull if others can tell me if they can see all of the cars or not.

BTW if the collision fix is anything like the Mercedes collision bug fix of some years back, it only needs to go on the server cars. However it won't hurt if individual drivers can install it as well.

Thanks Tony. I'm still getting the "car not present on server" for the Jag so I don't know what I did. I'll try and figure out whats wrong before start time.

OK, I checked the Scirocco files again and I didn't see any possibility that is an issue. Then dumped all the old Jag files and installed fresh ones. Tried the Jag at Avus off-line without any problems :). Went to the server only to have "car not present on server" pop up again :(. So I whatever the deal is I hope as long as I don't take Jag all will be good ;)

I'm home now so will begin investigating

First, start searching for online server  ;D

Thank you Pelle, so helpfull as always.

Please test now Navin. Server cars updated and patches/fixes added.

I asked Pelle to try Jag when first joining and he had the same problem that I did. "car not present on server" and then dropped back to lobby. So what ever the deal is I would just recommend others to avoid the Jags(small and big engine) and we should be good ;). To late to figure this one out heh :-\. Lets race ;D

One more update. Matt got in with Jag no problems and both Pelle and myself could see him np. I went out again and tried using the same Jag Matt had and still got dropped to lobby with no car thing.. Very weird..

I was also able to join using either Jag with no probs.  ???

BTW The Jag had an update and a collision bug fix. Did you get both of them?

Replay now posted. There will be a delay for the results.

???
*Report (http://www.gt-legends.eu/UKGTL/Report/LM55/Avus67/index.html)*

Thxs Pelle and grats to the win!

Was very happy that I was able to join again after my machine crash - but still a lot
of work until it will be fully restored and I hope instantly that this will be everlasting  :-\

Nevertheless I started looking for a new machine featuring Windows 7 what is not easy
with the right equipment included just before the introducing of Windows 8 (who knows
whether our beloved games GTL and GTR2 will run with Windows 8  ???)

Short practice and quali checking out several cars. Decided to stay with my personal
Maserati 4,5 #33 (my nickname in the fitness center due to an old t-shirt with
# 33 on it  ;D) which I'm familiar with although I knew that it would not be able to compete
for the podium (however thanks Pelle for the setup which could also be used for the 4,5 L).
First two or three laps were real fun - could register a new pb, but then I made some mistakes
at the banked curve and fell far behind Tony and Matt before leaving the track on the straight
ending in nirvana behind the trees.
Sorry Pelle for the bump - the 4,5 L Maserati is able to break later than the 5,7 l - I wasn't aware
of that. Thanks Alex for the advice concerning braking point at the end of the back straight - that
helped a lot.

Great series - love it. Hope we'll be able to recruit some more guys for it next season .
BTW - what about girls?

 ;D  :rockon:

Okie dokie I figured out I had the collision fix in the D-Type file and not the main GTL directory. That should fix that problem :). The race was short but sweet with a few big mistakes on my part. The first was when exiting the banking last corner I hit the fence where the banking ends and went flying bigtime. Car was very bent after that. I had to put maybe 20 degrees of left steering just to go straight :P. Was having fun with Pelle drafting back to the front but after a time I felt the car just turn right while going down the straight and I was already on the tracks edge so I got sucked in and had a massive crash again this time for good :-[. It was a real shame as I enjoy this draft bumping track and to be honest had more fun in the past practicing at this place just for drafting fun ;D. Either way fun short as it was. Will have to make sure to get some fun time before the race day next time we are here 8). Grats Pelle for the win and thanks for the setup as well :). Also grats to Alex and Matt for their respective pody positions.

Only just to get a quick answer to this: It works in Windows 8...I've tested it  8)

Results now posted.

BTW I hadn't appreciated that the DBR2 had a tyre choice

Heads up for Fifties series drivers.............

The next round at Preluk will be next Tuesday 11th September

Glad I could help.

Navin, bumpdrafting these beautiful Italian thorobreds.. tssssssk. It is no Nascar  ;)

Congrats to Pelle for the win.

No, this is not Nascar, but called Team works  ;D
Now when talking about NASCAR racing, many could have learned much if they had driven 'NASCAR Racing 2003 Season'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR_Racing_2003_Season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR_Racing_2003_Season)...a sim from Sierra like GPL, but a completely different tactics.  8)

Qual
It was purely by chance it was me who had the pole, it could also have been NRJ.
Navin thought like me, it was a simple copy setup from Monza, but no...it did not work at Avus. Did some totally crazy changes & it worked, but did not know if it was fast enough, had no time from you other.

Race
Perfect start (for our Team) I would like to see NRJ finish as number #1 & I hoped KS would switch to 5.7 so we could get a 1-2-3...but in almost every race, it never ends as you dream of  :laugh:
Unfortunately, a little too early in the race, NRJ show...I'm waiting on the starting line & we take up the fight again. Alex is now in front & a fun KS, NRJ & me down to the orange man, NP KS...I saved it unscathed.
It gave Alex a little more edge - but when you have run Nascar & course is suitable - no problem for NRJ & me. It took maybe only 2 laps before we were up to Alex again...& we came like a train on rails, I must admit...it was hard to keep the car on track because I was laughing  :P
@NRJ: Too bad your car was very hurt, I did not know & understand nothing that you could run out of road when it went straight  :o
...& a 'Sry' for McRamsay, I did show after race & was suddenly gone in the opposite direction  ::) (2 points)

Too bad there are not more in this series, but we had fun...& it's the most important thing.

Grats Alex & Ph  :thumbup2: ...& to you who were with

I got the collision fix in the right spot now ;) But was not aware of another update for Jag? The link going to nogrip shows Jag 1.0 added in March 2012 which is the one I have so is there a separate update? ??? Once I'm up to date I'll make sure Pelle gets the info because I think he had the same issue ;) Cheers

How my impressions have changed over the last months:
When these LM55 cars were released I thought that they would be boring and absolutely not my cup of tea,
because I had no relations to 50's racing.
Today I have to say that these cars are so much fun and absolutely sensational.
I'm firmly booked for next season.

I hope that we can get some more participants

Thank you Tony for organizing this series.

Your welcome Kurt. And next season this series moves to main stream Monday nights.

I just love the fact that these guys drove such fast powerfull cars, with no regard for safety, and with awful brakes and tyres that wore out really quickly.

Plus they look and sound amazing. Makes you wonder why no-one thought of creating a 50's mod years ago.

I will be asking for help promoting our GTL Season 13 elsewhere, later this year.

Finally we found the problem why I run into you, Thx...collision fix  ;D

Jag Update http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36155

You have much praise for what you're doing, so I hope you can take some criticism...it is obviously meant as what can be done better next season  ;D
Before a season begins in each series: All tracks & cars in a zip, finished  8)
It has been too often with problems that join server in this season  ???
...& avoid all the cars in the pack, we can't use for some reason. For example, now we can't use 5.7 more ?
I spend more time on problems here in UKGTL, than is being spent on a Altbierbude update, which never has problems...& with much more  8)
It is a proposal, but only intended to make it easier for all  :thumbup1:

Navin, not all your fault. It seems that I had not updated the download links in the race announcement (and I still need to do this for future races too) so you may have inadvertantly taken an older version?

Hopefully we can sort this before next Tuesday (Sept 18th).

Happy to read ideas/feedback from you guys...........

The current Tuesday night Fifties series was produced quickly and unofficially as a response to the newly released 50's LM car mods that arrived unannounced at Nogrip. What was originally just a short season has been extended due to the interest shown. The tracks were provided when necessary from outside sites as I didn't want to burden Dave (my Boss) with the task of producing installers for the tracks if the series died early. Likewise with the cars, however he did create installers for those after the season start which was good of him. Then we had the inevitable updates/patches which you usually get with popular mods as more people drive them and feedback comments to the mod creator. I have tried to keep abreast of these but I will be the first to admit, not as successfully as I would have hoped for.

As the next Fifties series will be "Official" and on Monday nights the tracks will all be available in installers as will the Cars (with all the latest patches included). We will not be producing track or car packs.

I am sorry that your experience here has not been as pleasant as that at Altbierbude. But here is only me and I suspect Altbierbude have a team of Admins. We always endeavor to provide as streamline service as possible but this effort is all done free of charge and in our own time so we have to strike a balance of what we can achieve in the time available.

I understand your frustration at not being able to drive the fastest car in every round of the series. The reason why we impose restrictions is simple. It makes you choose another car to drive. If we did not create limits to car use we may just as well provide only the very fastest car for the whole series as that would be the only one that drivers would choose.

I can tell you now that restrictions on car use will be applied in Series 13. However the exact format is still being pondered. Most likely will be a maximum no.of drives per car limit.

WT

This I fully understand, but a new mod & make the series of 18 race...maybe a 'little' too much. My belief is that a series of 8 race is fine, because. There is always someone who falls from & field becomes smaller. No or few will come to the series, & too little interest because no chance to be champ.

I would rather do without, a large zip with everything put into the 'GameData' folder...unzip to your GTL folder, ready to join server.

Compared UKGTL vs. Altbierbude: My UKGTL installation takes up 12.1GB against 43.8GB (including replays)...so here are many tracks & cars I never get to try  ::), but you can send your own carskin to Altbierbude & when it gets approved...you can drive in your own car, one thing I miss here in UKGTL. Here we download a skin package I rarely see being used  ???

It's not about for me driving the fastest car...but the one I like. When you buy GTL, you must implement some race & win to get better (faster) cars
...but here you get worse  ;D
Why should people who practice & spend time building setups & learning tracks to know, downgraded with a car they might not like...fair ?
When the season is over...the result is still the same & everyone is happy  :laugh:

We have no intention or desire to change the way that we provide tracks, cars or skins.

As the interest in GTL has diminished over the years we have, we believe, produced a simple delivery method which no-one has ever considered commenting about before. Any car skin packs used today were produced when GTL had a bigger following here and more teams competed hence we had skin submission, testing and approval systems in place. This is no longer considered relevant and not something we intend to spend our free time persuing. The add-on skins packs used today are included as they were created in the past and do not consume anyones free time in providing. I will review their use for Season 13 and decide whether they warrant further inclusion.

I have removed car restrictions for all future races in the current Fifties series so everyone is free to drive what they like. This will prove my point that the majority of cars offered will not be used.

I'm a little sad that there are no other suggestions/criticisms to make it better, but maybe we're just a little more complaining heads here in Denmark & love discussions  ;D
...or is it because everyone agrees what I say. :D All are welcome to join criticism of my suggestions.

Ok, my 2 cents:

- I do not have any issues downloading mods/upgrades from NoGrip. No complaints here.
- Perhaps the status of the series being experimental wasn't clear to everybody. Then again, is it that important?
- I like to drive the different cars available. So not everybody will take he same cars. Also different tracks will need different cars.
- My thanks to Tony for sticking out his head to organise these series in such short notice. Hope we can attract some more drivers for the oncoming races... spread the word!

Most important point off all  :yes:

Wow, I missed a whole bunch of the last posts. Kinda fell off the radar for the last part of the week. Been very busy. But first off I would like to say I'm very glad to see this series go the regular Monday spot and be more of a premier GTL series :) and less of a race if I have time series. I think these cars are a great balance of traditional GTL cars and perhaps a bit of GPL sprinkled in. At least that's how they feel to me. As far as all the talk of which cars to run or not I have to say I didn't think I was going to like to have to run "the one car per race track" thing but in fact I found it refreshing that we all didn't have a one car field ever time and it made it very interesting that we kind of had to think ahead perhaps to what car would work for what track and maybe then even change your mind late when someone else runs a better lap time in a different car. Now I understand why this would not be liked by some because they may have put a lot of practice time in a certain car only to find out it was not the right choice on race day. In the past that may have been myself as I use to do a lot of practicing before races but now I usually show up race day with only a few install laps just to make sure everything is ok a day or two before race day. Or as many times as not have not practiced until the official practice starts on race day. Having run one year this way I would have to say I would of never driven a few of the cars unless we had this format and those cars were just as fun to drive and maybe even a little more because I had to work out of my comfort zone and figure out how to drive a car I didn't like. Always good to push ones self and maybe become a little better for doing it. Next item is how things are running here I think Tony does a very good job giving us plenty of time of whats needed before the next race. I suppose if I had anything to add for or ask for is maybe adding a poll for one of next seasons series is a track poll of what would you like to race? I believe this might even help bring some more people into the series if we have a lot of tracks people want to race at. I say one of the series because I do enjoy the more "real to the series" type tracks for the most part but do miss certain tracks that we haven't been at here at least in GTL. So all and all I'd say the year was a big success with the different formats and enjoyed it very much ;D This series being the biggest surprise ;D. I really haven't thought much about next year yet but we are getting close so if I think of anything else I will be sure to speak up well before the end of the year ;)

And thanks Tony for the Jag update link 8). Should be good to go for tomorrow :) Cheers

Navin, no Poll but I have asked for track suggestions for the Fifties series, Season 13.

Fair enough Tony ;)