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Title: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 12, 2012, 01:09:40 PM +0100
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (22 laps)

Download the Jag, Ferrari and Aston for the latest versions

Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr), Jaguar D-Type Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL Download this (http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35718), Maserati 450S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s), Aston Martin DBR2 Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22160621/AstonMartin_DBR2_V1_0.7z)

Collision fix: Don't forget to add the collision fix for the Jaguar and Aston Martin. Jaguar Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22231296/Collision+Fix+for+Jaguar+D-Type+v1_0+by+DonPanoz.rar), Aston Martin Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22231295/Aston+Martin+DBR1+Collision+Fix+v1_0+by+DonPanoz.rar)

Track: Preluk Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22228488/Preluk_1974_v1_01_by_DerDumeklemmer_zip)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk FIFT
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=358&theme=5)
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: SpecialKS on September 07, 2012, 06:48:49 AM +0100
That will certainly be a challenge with these beasts  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 08, 2012, 11:58:22 AM +0100
Car restrictions removed


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Alex vV on September 09, 2012, 06:47:49 PM +0100
Is this date correct? The last race was only a week ago  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 09, 2012, 06:51:50 PM +0100
Is this date correct? The last race was only a week ago  ???

Yes Alex, the date is correct. Due to Holidays I moved this race forward a week. It was announced in the post race post's after Avus.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Alex vV on September 09, 2012, 06:56:39 PM +0100
Is this date correct? The last race was only a week ago  ???

Yes Alex, the date is correct. Due to Holidays I moved this race forward a week. It was announced in the post race post's after Avus.

Ah ok, I didn't catch that. Thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 09, 2012, 07:02:27 PM +0100
Tried this track this afternoon. It is very exciting.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 10, 2012, 05:31:12 AM +0100
Boy Howdy!!!When I saw this track for these cars I thought :o But like this place very much so this should be some very challenging fun ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: BillThomas on September 10, 2012, 02:32:47 PM +0100
That's why I didn't know about it!  ???

Help, uninstalled original cars, installed latest, and unzipped fixes into GTL.  Have all cars except DBR 2, in my garage OK but not available to drive - seem to remember this sort of problem before.  Help please?  ???  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 10, 2012, 03:14:53 PM +0100
You need to buy the car to drive it



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: BillThomas on September 10, 2012, 04:25:26 PM +0100
You need to buy the car to drive it



Bought car, it's in my garage but not available for me to drive.  Tried selling it and buying different cars - still no go. I don't see any DBR 2s in the available cars only the rest of the mid fifties cars, including the rest of the pack un-bougthen.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 10, 2012, 04:43:06 PM +0100
You may need to tick class GTC-65 (Or tick everything!).

THe Aston Martin DBR-2's did need the class adding but I thought it was already done in the nogrip release of the mod, which is what you should have.

Check in the .CAR file for one of the Astons if there is a class GTC-65 showing (near the bottom of the file). You can open .CAR files with Notepad.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: BillThomas on September 10, 2012, 07:14:18 PM +0100
You may need to tick class GTC-65 (Or tick everything!).

THe Aston Martin DBR-2's did need the class adding but I thought it was already done in the nogrip release of the mod, which is what you should have.

Check in the .CAR file for one of the Astons if there is a class GTC-65 showing (near the bottom of the file). You can open .CAR files with Notepad.

Thanks Tony, it was missing, copied SIM_GTC65, from DBR 1 and pasted into the DBR 2 cars, fine all cars now shown. :thumbup1: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: SpecialKS on September 11, 2012, 06:51:23 AM +0100
No time for practicing yet - still working on my PC  :( .

But certainly will use the 4,5 L Maserati again - maybe trying the DBR2.

Looking forward to this one.

Are there any setups available?

Still not being able to revive the online setup database for both games GTL and GTR/P&G  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 11, 2012, 07:05:09 AM +0100
No track time yet but tried using Jag and the drama continues.. Still getting the "car not present on server" and dropping back to lobby. Thought I did the update and collision fix but did them again and no help. Hmm... OK .. Deleted Jag. Installed new 1.0 version added collision fix then 1.1 update. Still no help. Tried again with 1.1 update first then collision fix still no help ???. At a loss here. But I know it's late and I was not really planning on using it here so as long as it doesn't mess anyone else using it and on my end I could see them just fine at Avus just leave well enough alone for now and figure it out later. Heh... < in my best Canadian accent... ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: BillThomas on September 11, 2012, 11:59:19 AM +0100
Put in a few laps here in different cars this morning - they're all rather hairy around here.  ??? ::) Think I'll probably go with the Maserati 4.5 L - good jobs it's a strong car with all the bouncing off the scenery.  :oops: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 11, 2012, 12:39:23 PM +0100
No track time yet but tried using Jag and the drama continues.. Still getting the "car not present on server" and dropping back to lobby. Thought I did the update and collision fix but did them again and no help. Hmm... OK .. Deleted Jag. Installed new 1.0 version added collision fix then 1.1 update. Still no help. Tried again with 1.1 update first then collision fix still no help ???. At a loss here. But I know it's late and I was not really planning on using it here so as long as it doesn't mess anyone else using it and on my end I could see them just fine at Avus just leave well enough alone for now and figure it out later. Heh... < in my best Canadian accent... ;D
I thought you had this sorted Navin. Is anyone able to join the server this afternoon and confirm that they can get both Jags? That will confirm that it's a Navin exclusive problem and not a server admin foul up.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: BillThomas on September 11, 2012, 01:16:41 PM +0100
No track time yet but tried using Jag and the drama continues.. Still getting the "car not present on server" and dropping back to lobby. Thought I did the update and collision fix but did them again and no help. Hmm... OK .. Deleted Jag. Installed new 1.0 version added collision fix then 1.1 update. Still no help. Tried again with 1.1 update first then collision fix still no help ???. At a loss here. But I know it's late and I was not really planning on using it here so as long as it doesn't mess anyone else using it and on my end I could see them just fine at Avus just leave well enough alone for now and figure it out later. Heh... < in my best Canadian accent... ;D
I thought you had this sorted Navin. Is anyone able to join the server this afternoon and confirm that they can get both Jags? That will confirm that it's a Navin exclusive problem and not a server admin foul up.

I can get both Jags OK.  In fact that 1957 one felt quite controllable on default setting.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 11, 2012, 01:22:43 PM +0100
Thanks Bill.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Alex vV on September 11, 2012, 04:28:35 PM +0100
No praccy, but think I will take the Merc for a spin.

Hope you can join us Navin.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Pelle_B on September 11, 2012, 05:16:33 PM +0100
@NRJ: I hope you have solved the problem...I take a test now & we can see if I have the same problem (in Ferrari)

I'm almost sure we have driven this track before, I already have Preluk, but...when I look in the read me file *V1.02*, the link to this we must download now only *v1.01*  ???


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Pelle_B on September 11, 2012, 05:26:52 PM +0100
No problems with that join server here, but I was the only one  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Pelle_B on September 11, 2012, 06:24:55 PM +0100
WoW man, same here with Jag 55 & 57: *car not present on server* & I have run out of ideas  :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: phspok on September 11, 2012, 06:29:00 PM +0100
I joined server with 55 and 57 Jag earlier no problem.
I have nothing special, I have no Pilsbiere stuff other than the lobby info
I tried all the cars. Big Maser is fastest but took 8 laps to complete one
4.5 Ltr Maser is good, but still a bit variable for me.
Jag 57 is fun but I am happiest in the DB2 (which I got my fastest lap in)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 11, 2012, 06:36:00 PM +0100
@NRJ: I hope you have solved the problem...I take a test now & we can see if I have the same problem (in Ferrari)

I'm almost sure we have driven this track before, I already have Preluk, but...when I look in the read me file *V1.02*, the link to this we must download now only *v1.01*  ???

Yeah and that's because yours came from Altbierbude and ours was from last time we used it.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 11, 2012, 07:19:24 PM +0100
Yes, very embarrassing to still have this problem :-[ as I thought finding the update would just be a quick fix as they usually are once you've found out you've missed something. Pelle's problem could be the update? This one> http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36155 As far as my deal I'm kind of out of ideas but this LM55 mod is in my "catch all" GTL install which has a ton on add ons so maybe it's time for a fresh install of GTL for this mod. Especially since it's going to be a mainstay series 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Pelle_B on September 11, 2012, 08:22:18 PM +0100
I have to give up  >:(
Restart the PC 3 times, download the track again + 1.1 update...the only thing that happens is: CTD :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: phspok on September 11, 2012, 08:32:43 PM +0100
Added Merc add on, now cant join at all, try to run merc SL off line and it CTDs
if I cant get it sorted in the next few mins I wil miss the race


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: BillThomas on September 11, 2012, 09:20:29 PM +0100
Found new place to spin (first time in front of Tony), where I broke right hand wheel.  Limpted around to pits and low and behold a repeat - opposite to a marker and wreath.  After a few more repeats I gave up in disgust.  :oops: :hammer: :hammer:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 11, 2012, 09:39:48 PM +0100
Yes, very embarrassing to still have this problem :-[ as I thought finding the update would just be a quick fix as they usually are once you've found out you've missed something. Pelle's problem could be the update? This one> http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36155 As far as my deal I'm kind of out of ideas but this LM55 mod is in my "catch all" GTL install which has a ton on add ons so maybe it's time for a fresh install of GTL for this mod. Especially since it's going to be a mainstay series 8)
Navin, how about I copy you the Jag set off the server?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 11, 2012, 09:48:00 PM +0100
Replay and results now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 12, 2012, 02:48:48 AM +0100
Yes, very embarrassing to still have this problem :-[ as I thought finding the update would just be a quick fix as they usually are once you've found out you've missed something. Pelle's problem could be the update? This one> http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36155 As far as my deal I'm kind of out of ideas but this LM55 mod is in my "catch all" GTL install which has a ton on add ons so maybe it's time for a fresh install of GTL for this mod. Especially since it's going to be a mainstay series 8)
Navin, how about I copy you the Jag set off the server?


I guess that would do it for sure as long as something else isn't causing the problem. That said, If we are going to be running these long term I think I might just give the LM55 cars their own install as like I said before currently they are in my oldest "dump all add ons" GTL install and it's got a ton of add ons and I really don't like how it's running lately. Today I got a big loss in frame rate during the race for a lap or two that almost caused me to retire :-\. It takes forever when first starting it as well. RealGTL install is so rocking fast because it has no other things added on I'm thinking it might be nice to have this one that way too. So thanks for the offer Tony but I really should do myself the favor of a fresh install ;). I'll get on it this week and once up and running see if you could start up the server for this series and see if I'm all good. At least do a quick try at some point well before the next round so if something isn't right I'll have more than a day to fix it ;D. Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 12, 2012, 02:56:34 AM +0100
I have to give up  >:(
Restart the PC 3 times, download the track again + 1.1 update...the only thing that happens is: CTD :o

Arrgghhh Pelle :( .. We couldn't figure out what happened to you ??? And we never even saw you try and rejoin and then get CTD so thats odd as well ???. What a bummer man :thumbdown:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 12, 2012, 09:07:33 AM +0100
I have to give up  >:(
Restart the PC 3 times, download the track again + 1.1 update...the only thing that happens is: CTD :o

Arrgghhh Pelle :( .. We couldn't figure out what happened to you ??? And we never even saw you try and rejoin and then get CTD so thats odd as well ???. What a bummer man :thumbdown:

Especially maddening when he was with us online, with no probs, before he downloaded the older track.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 12, 2012, 09:11:45 AM +0100
Yes, very embarrassing to still have this problem :-[ as I thought finding the update would just be a quick fix as they usually are once you've found out you've missed something. Pelle's problem could be the update? This one> http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=36155 As far as my deal I'm kind of out of ideas but this LM55 mod is in my "catch all" GTL install which has a ton on add ons so maybe it's time for a fresh install of GTL for this mod. Especially since it's going to be a mainstay series 8)
Navin, how about I copy you the Jag set off the server?


I guess that would do it for sure as long as something else isn't causing the problem. That said, If we are going to be running these long term I think I might just give the LM55 cars their own install as like I said before currently they are in my oldest "dump all add ons" GTL install and it's got a ton of add ons and I really don't like how it's running lately. Today I got a big loss in frame rate during the race for a lap or two that almost caused me to retire :-\. It takes forever when first starting it as well. RealGTL install is so rocking fast because it has no other things added on I'm thinking it might be nice to have this one that way too. So thanks for the offer Tony but I really should do myself the favor of a fresh install ;). I'll get on it this week and once up and running see if you could start up the server for this series and see if I'm all good. At least do a quick try at some point well before the next round so if something isn't right I'll have more than a day to fix it ;D. Cheers

I've just had a thought  :o  Don't do anything on this. I may have thought of the problem but I won't be able to prove until tonight.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: SpecialKS on September 12, 2012, 10:13:20 AM +0100
What an extraordinary event.
First - Bill and me in the front row of the grid, of course due to several problems
of the faster guys during quali.
At first I thought my quali time was irregular due to some leaning at the hairpin but during
race I was able to improve my PB by another 3 seconds in a proper lap  ;).
Then - I could establish myself on a comfortable 3rd place and after Matt went to the pits I found
myself suddenly in 2nd place with over 40 seconds in front of Alex although I had to slow a
bit down because I had only fueled for 22 laps awaiting a more usual race at the back of the field
and getting lapped at least once.
Although I had a slight crash with a loose boundary stone which another driver touched - I think
it was Matt before his pitstop - I could continue.
Was already hoping for a finish on the podium, but had to notice a more and more nervous behaviour
of the car on the brakes and throughout the corners. And exactly that killed me - lost control after
the esses on the long straight and crashed into the straw balls made of concrete without any chance
to survive.

Grats to all winners and finishers - love this series more and more.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 12, 2012, 12:46:14 PM +0100
Yeah definitely a weird night. Still cannot understand Matt's problems when he was fine last week at Avus  ??? My understanding is that if you cannot see the correct car that someone else is driving it's because you don't have the other drivers car on your PC. But that doesn't explain why one week and not the next?
Anyway my race was rubbish. Just couldn't find the groove although I did settle down mid race when I was all on my own. Well done all the finishers tho, tough drive not to hit the scenery.

BTW I've checked all the future tracks and they all seen to be the same version as is currently available at Altbierbude so we shouldn't need to have any more circuit rev concerns.

See you next time Fifties fans


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: phspok on September 12, 2012, 01:47:50 PM +0100
Only thing that changed for me was the Merc addon.
When I installed it, and I tried several possible directories - the LM55, the GTC-65 (whatever it said in the info)
My system would CTD everytime I tried to run on line or offline.
When I deleted it, I could join the event, but was getting loading flashing for Alex and Navin.
Navin was showing as a Chevron. After they changed cars, everything was as it had been at Avus
I could join with the Jags, only car I couldn't use was the Merc

I had only installed the Merc addon itself, not the sounds or the SEL:

Get the 300SEL here: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=30775
Also the update here: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=31286

Perhaps If I had also added those it might have worked.
I will have a go later if I get time, but today is packing for hols  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Navin R Johnson on September 12, 2012, 08:54:17 PM +0100
Yet another wacky beginning before the race and I have to raise my hand for being responsible for all the Jag problems at this race. Tony was able to guess that I might have two different files for the Jaguar and as it turned out I did. The original 1.0 Jag was called "Jaguar type D" and the Jag 1.1 update was called "Jaguar D-Type" and somehow I missed that. Fail 101 :wetfish:. As far as Matt not having problems at Avus wouldn't that be because no one was using a Merc there? A quick look at Matts race attendance shows no Mercs ever run in the races he participated. As far as this race goes I was looking forward to driving the Merc and was hoping for some good battling. With Matts Merc issue I switched to DB2 as this was the only other car I tried before the race. At the start I got a good jump and saw that a couple of guys were leaning abit on each other and it looked like I had a clear hole to get through I think I rubbed shoulders a bit with one of the two cars already in hip check. Although it was light contact I have to apologize for that but a quick look in the mirrors didn't show any cars crashed out or off track so I was glad for that. After turn one I was able to get into a flow very quick and I have to say we ran this race a couple of season ago at GTLDK when we had our LeMans series going were I was in the L88 Vette the whole season and I spent an obnoxious amount of time practicing here because with that Vette and this place it was even more of a challenge then these cars(except maybe for that big Maser!!). Just hit my lines and stayed within the limits of the car and track and brought here home for 1st ;D.

I'd like to dedicate that race to the thousands of people that unwillingly gave their life on this tragic day 11 years ago. Especially the 343 that ran into their death by trying to help save the others... :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Syd Drake on September 13, 2012, 03:00:43 PM +0100
Seems there's a lot of problems with different versions of cars in this mod. I've missed the last two races mainly cause it seems to much hassle with all the little updates to this car and to that car. Just something to think about when planning the next season.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 13, 2012, 06:40:51 PM +0100
Seems there's a lot of problems with different versions of cars in this mod. I've missed the last two races mainly cause it seems to much hassle with all the little updates to this car and to that car. Just something to think about when planning the next season.

Well you should be ashamed of yourself, deliberately depriving yourself of these fantastic cars. Now then, give yourself a jolly good talking too and listen to your old WT. The Jag issue was just a miss-named folder issue, now fixed. The Merc issue was just Matt installing it in the wrong place (we think). Everything else is tickety-boo so stop mopping around, and get downloading.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Alex vV on September 14, 2012, 09:31:33 PM +0100

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/GTL/GTLegends_preluk1974_2012_9_11_20_42/)

Again a daunting race. Had to switch to the Ferrari 250 Testarossa without turning a wheel with an old Monza setup  :o

Hung back at the beginning to find out the handling and tried to learn the car on the job. Guess that's what a lot of drivers also did back then.

For anyone who is in doubt to enter this series, please do so. Cars are great and the engines are LOUD!.
NoGrip installs are not that difficult.

ps Tony, perhaps we should skip the Merc or add the 350 SL (??) add-on ?
 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 12 The Fifties - Preluk - Sep 11
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 15, 2012, 01:25:07 AM +0100

ps Tony, perhaps we should skip the Merc or add the 350 SL (??) add-on ?
 

Lets wait to see if Matt sorts out his issue first, after he's back from his hols