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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (16 laps)


Cars allowed: Aston Martin DBR1 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_aston_dbr1), Ferrari 250 Testarossa Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ferrari_250tr), Jaguar D-Type Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_jag_dtype), Mercedes 300SL Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_merc_300sl_lm55), Maserati 450S Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_maserati_450s), Aston Martin DBR2 Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22160621/AstonMartin_DBR2_V1_0.7z)

Collision fix: Don't forget to add the collision fix for the Jaguar and Aston Martin. Jaguar Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22231296/Collision+Fix+for+Jaguar+D-Type+v1_0+by+DonPanoz.rar), Aston Martin Download this (http://www.gamefront.com/files/22231295/Aston+Martin+DBR1+Collision+Fix+v1_0+by+DonPanoz.rar)

Track: Monza 10km Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg128898#post_monza10k)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk FIFT
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

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Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

First day back off coach tour - will try and get some laps in Tues/Wed but will be busy doing other things before we leave early Thurs morn.

So - what sort of lap time would be acceptable?

I have tried the D-Type and it is TOUGH!

It would be good to be able to ignore the chicanes... ;)

Hi and welcome to GTL.  :thumbup1:

A sub 3 min lap would be about right at a guess but I can tell you more after I have practised sometime this weekend.

BTW if you think the Jag is a beast you should try the big engine Maserati, that's really scary  :sweatdrop:

Sub-4 might be more like it  :o

The cars feel SO different to GPL and I am finding it VERY hard to get them to turn in at speed. DBR1 steering feels really loose and the D-Type amazingly heavy - is that normal. And do these things have mirrors? I just have grey blobs...

Wow - this is hard - haven't made Curva Grande once without hitting the gravel and every time I slow for Variante della Rogia I spin :(

Tips for Novices welcome. I thought I was bad at GPL! Novice settings are driveable though - lol

Mercedes 300SL now has UKGTL installer. Thanks Dave.

Options/Game/Tick box "Mirrors" or for virtual mirror (not using car mirrors but provided large rectangle at top of screen showing view behind go to Options/Advanced/Tick box "Virtual Mirror".

BTW You should be able to run all Graphic settings at max if you have a modern PC. When this Sim was produced a high end graphics card had 512MB onboard memory!

Er Thanks - I had Virtual Mirrors ticked but it seems that GTL doesn't always want to remember my settings. I also find that some buttons aren't available sometimes. I couldn't adjust Toe Im at the rear as there were no +/- buttons - came out, went back in all ok. Odd.

Have to say, this is FUN. However, it is a TOTALLY different style to GPL. If I try trail braking in GTL, the car won't turn in. Essential in GPL. As soon as I stopped applying Gas in the braking zone the car stopped on a sixpence...

Such a different game.

Now chaps, come and join us in GPL... ;)

As my best lap of Monza is 3:14 in the Aston DBR1 (I can find six or seven seconds on that now that I have discovered the brakes  ::)) I may be a bit of a roadblock. Be gentle with me.

I wouldn't worry to much about your times, we have all sorts racing with us.

But odd that you don't consider it like GPL as some have definately made the comparison. I think the Aston is the most well behaved of the cars available so probably a good choice to start with.

Have you been online yet to test that you can join OK?

Yes thanks Tony. Joining was a breeze. For the race password do I have to register or anything?

Behaviour is somewhat similar but GTL appears to treat the Accelerator/Brake as a single axis so that unless you take your foot right off the gas, braking is ineffective. Once you take the gas off it stops very quickly indeed. Trying to trail brake into the corners I was getting 3:16 at best. I am in to the 3:10 somethings now but still learning the braking points. May be a specific controller issue.

Not sure. Heaps of fun though.

Are we supposed to be using the modern chicane? I assumed not.....
And with only two laps each I get 2:57 for 5.7 Mazzer, and 3:04 for DBR2

You will need the race password to join on race night only. No registration necessary.

Which chicane do you mean Matt? The first is coned off on my track.

Re: Single axis. Check under Windows Game controllers that you have the "Combined" box UN-TICKED. Otherwise it will treat your Accelerator/brake as a single axis.

Control Panel/ Hardware and Sound/Devices and Printers. Right click on G27 picture. Game Controller settings/Properties/Settings.

I mean the 1st one after the start/finish. I haven't tried going through the chicane
as the usual cones for the carry straight on are not there I assumed that was where
we were meant to go.

Hmm, my 1st chicane is definately coned off. Probably a graphics setting. I have everything set to the max. I assume that if you did too then the cones will appear. Do you see yellow cones dividing the start/finish straight into two lanes?

I don't have the cones either but the yellow ones are there and they are movable  :D   I'll check what happens when I turn the graphics up.

I am not quite sure why but the DBR1 wants to spin when I brake - the bias is set to 61% front... but it is VERY twitchy under brakes. and occasionally in the D-Type I turn in to Curva Grande after releasing the brake and... nothing :(

I will try and join you tomorrow but I will stay well out of the way.

I have cones down the start straight. I haven't looked at the chicane.
But I have no cones in the way if I ignore the chicane and drive straight on.
Are you saying that we should be using the 1st chicane?
I have been ignoring it and not getting cut tracks.

I'm saying the Chicane is coned off so go straight on

Cones are there once you put full details on. Any other Chicanes I can ignore?

There is a DBR1 replay which shows a lap of 3:12 which I can match but I do not understand where I am losing 15 seconds...

NO  :lol:

In practise tonight I was getting consistent 3:03's in the DBR2

I re-installed all the game, repeating the procedure for Altbierbude lobby and the unlock everything patch.

Nothing changed. If I install the Mercedes 300SL LM55 (v1.1.0.0), I can only choose one model of Mercedes. If I install the Triumph GT6 and Spitfire (v1.1.0.0), I can only choose the GT 6 n°00. If I have both the files installed the Triumph beats the Mercedes, and I can only choose the GT6 n° 00 again... If I uninstall these 2 files, I can choose every car I want in both the mods.

Don't know what is going wrong with these 2 files, but after all these attempts I'm considering the chance to give up and abandon GTL.

It has me puzzled as well. I assume that you have used wondows explorer to assertain that the files have been installed and are in the correct place, e.g. the Mercedes 300SL doesn't go into the GTC-65 LM55 sub-folder but sits in it's own sub-folder within the normal Mercedes slot. Are you on Proffesional level? Delete the Triumph mod as we onl;y have two more races and it's not worth this much grief.

I deleted the Triumph mod Tony, but when I install the Mercedes 300SL LM55 (v1.1.0.0), I've the same issue (I can choose only the n° 53 Mercedes SL LM55). Once I uninstall the Mercedes 300SL LM55 (v1.1.0.0) I can choose and drive what I want.

This is the path of the installer Mercedes 300SL LM55 (v1.1.0.0) of D:\GTL\GameData\Teams\GTC-65\Mercedes 300SL

All the other cars of the mod (Aston DBR1/2-Ferrari 250 TR-Maserati 450s-Jaguar D-Type)are installed in this path => D:\GTL\GameData\Teams\LM55

The installer of the 300 SL should point to this path  D:\GTL\GameData\Teams\LM55? In this case there's something wrong with the installer.

If it's correct the first path, and the Mercedes SL 300 should stay in the GTC-65 folder, I don't know what to do anymore. It will be impossible to play with the Fifties mod and the TR4.

Thanks anyway Tony :)

Can't join properly. I can't chat, there is no sound from my car (others are OK) and I get Tony W/Bill flashing all the time and I have to click blindly to get in the garage and I can't load a setup. Apart from that it is perfect  ::)

Sounds like you don't have our cars loaded. We are both in Aston DBR2's. Try downloading then again

Thanks

I saw u try to get in just now
what's happening?

First of all big apologies for the spin - you'll see why later.

Thanks to Tony for sorting me out - it was a car issue. Bet he wishes he hadn't  ;)

I am not quite sure what is going on because I have 193 cars out of 185! and in the race the DBR2 was not available but I did have two Mercedes 300 SL.

Couldn't qualify but checked the setup was OK. Race started and it was undriveable - the Front bias was set to 23%. Do you have to reload the setup before the race? When I went to the garage that file was referenced but the settings were all over the place.

Pity - visiting the pits was interesting as well - I wasn't sure what to do, lol.

Hope to make more of these and not be quite so awful.

Dont call us lol

Helpfull advice to follow

Lol - wish I'd stuck to GPL now, don'cha!

 :censored:  ;)

Replay and results now posted

With the trouble Badblood was having, plus lots of chat (sorry if it distracted during qually, my bad) I didn't get a chance to set a qually time, so started near the back of the grid.
As the race began I pulled away super cautious to avoid spinning and made a good getaway. Then like the parting of the Red sea, everyone fell off the track in front of me! This gave
me a clear path up the remainder of the start/finish straight and on Alex's bumper. Which is where I pretty much remained for the remainder of the race. Did manage to close right
up to him several times but never good enough to pass, except once and then I went wide later on and he re-took the position. Matt joined us briefly and dispatched me fairly
quickly and I suppose passed Alex too but they were just too far ahead to make out what was happening. Then Matt pitted?!? and so I was left trying to claw back the lead Alex
had achieved again. And again I was able to close but never pass. We were so close at one stage that I could hear Alex's gear changes in perfect sync with my own. In the last
laps we were both getting a bit ragged as our tyres failed to cope with the demands we were asking of them. On the last lap I had two costly mistakes which gave Alex the chance
to give himself some clean air between him and I. Then on the approach down to the Parabolical my screen went all green and stripey and I had a complete lock-up which required
a hard re-boot to fix.

Well done Alex, great driving, never a mistake made, and it made for a truly fascinating race.

Good fun. Took a pit stop because the tyres were going off a bit, and I would be bored once I was in front.
Actually I would have had to as on the later half my rear left was melting, and I think became punctured
as I was sturrgling to keep the car in a straight line even at low speeds.

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/GTL/GTLegends_Monza_10km_2012_10_2_20_44/)

Well, that was fun!
What a strange race. First BadBlood's issues put me on pole (check is in the mail  ;) ). Then my start wasn't that good but somehow the rest of the field had disappeared  ???
No time to ponder on this because these cars surely need your attention  :sweatdrop:
Then soon Tony was on my tail and lap-by-lap battle began where I couldn't take a big lead until Mister Matt blasted past me.
Ok, second or third is also nice I thought and switched off the headlights. Then Matt decided to pit not much afterwards  ???
Tony was then on my tail for the rest of the race. Great, clean battle. Any swerving moves on my side were purely unintentional. Just ran out of talent in the corners were you were much faster. Shame about the disco. You deserved a good finish.     

In the end won due to a pole, melee at the start, better car and  competitor's melting tyres but hey, I didn't hear Schumi complain when he won in a Superior car  ;D


Thanks, only I wasn't in control like it looked like. Even almost managed to throw it away on the last lap in the Parabolica...


So finally got a proper win (that is, with anybody left on the track). Time for the Alien chaps to put me in place next race (one or two laps down).. Navin where were U?
 

Had a good start from the back and like Tony I was able to drive right through the kaos for 3rd place. Matt caught me in a few laps and I was on my own from that point on. Was just hitting my marks trying to bring her home when I understeered exiting the first banking on the oval. I was grinding the front end on the armco and it would not let go. It grabbed me so hard that it eventually threw me over the wall and I was done for :(.

Joined late because I forgot to install the track  ???

So I needed the race for practicing  ;D Had some mistakes during first laps of a lonely
race but then I could improve from lap to lap until mid race when tyres began to decline
considerably. Surprisingly I had my fastest lap in lap 12 when tyres were already down.
I concentrated on finishing the race which was crowned by an unexpected podium due
to Tony's bad luck - real shame for you Tony!

Currently my favorite series - thanks again Tony for organizing this - hope we will be
able to regain Pelle and maybe we can acquire some new drivers too  8)

That's the plan

Well that was different.  Had a number of offs, 2 over the rails and drove around outside of banking to rejoin and a few on the banking infield (difficult to get back onto track).  The worst incident was to kiss the pit wall, on way to banking, causing a spin disoriented I spun car into right direction only to discover too late I was on the wrong piece of track.  That was a half a lap lost.

Nice event Tony but very tiring as it's 100% concentration on such a fast track with these cars.