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Racing in the Pilsbierbude lobby. Make sure your LOCAL _IP_LOBBY.TXT file contains 91.121.102.7
Some have found that they can get straight in. Others have had change their username or password or both.

Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 ( 39 laps)
Cars allowed:L72 Corvette, Mustang ATCC, Falcon Weslake Heads.

Track: Symmons Plains Download and install this. (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg169368#post_symmons_plains)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server: simracing.org.uk AGTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=351&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see
cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the
rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here
 (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function.You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.

A bit off topic but a good place to get a response.

I am looking for ideas for the next bunch of Thursday evening P&G series
So if anyone has some things they would like to see, that might be popular
please PM me.

P&G v3 might actually come out some time, but seems vapourware to me at the moment
as the developers find more and more things to add and fine tune, so we will keep running V2.1 series
as long as there is interest.  :angel:

That's a surprise Matt.

I didn't expect there to be another PnG series.

But if there is an unexplored corner of PnG that proves popular then jolly good!

Possibly a really, really, long series featuring the 970cc Mini. What's not to love right there?

Like I said "as long as there is interest"

If people are not interested any more then we won't bother to run it.
Seems that enough people turn up on occasion to continue for the time being.

Hello all.

My G25 is disconnected since about 1 month and a half, but I guess I'll be back soon. I'm still interested in the SimRacing PnG series, even in v2.1 of course. But I have not enough time for the moment, could change in the coming weeks.

See y'all. Have some good races !

I posted a question on No Grip forums, and DucFreak says they are trying for a P&G v3 release
possibly next month, subject to "voodoo" as he says. So, if V3 is released before the end of these
current series then we will start with V3 imediately after. Otherwise I will run a few short series
while we wait.

Very good news !!!  :)

I'm interested in a new P&G series too - but no concrete idea yet.
Are there any official addons for P&G we could use (I have a lot of GTR2-addon cars
of that era running in P&G...)

Time of course and unfortunately ever will be a factor due to my work-related situation  :(

I uninstalled 2.1 a few months ago as I found it so frustrating to drive. I'm hoping V3 will be better sorted in this respect and if so I will return to racing it here.

TBH I found racing Historx to be far more enjoyable than 2.1 and can't understand why more leagues don't use it....plenty of love, but currently nothing afaik in the European timezone  ??? 

I would suggest some Historx trial races here in the interim period, but it's a bit of a nightmare to set up (ask Clive  :D) and might put some off. Could be worth consideration though  :-\

I've looking at the Historix mod as I liked the idea of online realtime daylight but beyond that fail to fully grasp it's attraction. Isn't it just a collection of GTL cars imported onto another sim-racing engine. And you need to have Rfactor so where's the USP?
I think it would be a hard sell to introduce here whilst GTL is still heavily supported by new mods and tracks. I do mirror your frustraction with P&G and always have done. Never fully bought into that "more realistic handling" boast. But it was free and tacked onto GTR2 fairly easily.
@SpecialK No additional mods except skins possibly.

Sorry for posting here. Please move if considered too off-topic

I'll try to have a look at it. If I can get it working then we could try a race or two to gather opinion.
I also am uncomfortable about mods that people knock up from rFactor, and Tony's right about GTL mods

Personally I never really understood why people put so much time into rFactor/GTR2 mods
when the physics and the way the cars handle in Race07 was more realistic.
native GTR2 itself works well IMHO, It's always baffled me why the P&G cars don't handle as well as the
GTR2 model they are developed from. I assume it's because they are just modded GTL cars really.

Anyway we are going off topic rather. Perhaps we could start a "Future of P&G" topic if lots of people
want to make input.

Looks like I cannot make this one because I - for one more time - cannot get my GTR2 started.
Same problem like last week - thought I had soved it.

Cannot find the thread ( at nogrip I think) where I found the solution last week  :(


edit: wrong week  ???

I'm sure that when the V3 will be released even some VDA friends will add to the fun again in UKP&G. I will try to (re)make a good team to give a deserved challenge to John and SBRCs guys.

It's still my favourite sim, and the new car physics will be surely appreciated as they are a big step forward compared to the 2.1 ;)

Let's wait another month...

Now here's something really strange.  ???

Having downloaded and installed Symmons, my P&G wouldn't start ! When I remove the track again, the game starts as usual (¤_¤).

Anybody else with the same problem ?

Stig

I haven't tested the installer. Dave did it for me.

The one we are using is the standard one from NG from MR INgall

http://www.nogripracing.com/files/get/2306/Symmons+Plains+2006+v1_0+by+MR_INGALL.rar

Try installing that?

Just tried it on line with FMG and his friend and works fine so far as I can see.
(They were using the original NG install)

When this has happened to me I have found that uninstalling a few of the tracks that I do not need gets it going again. 

Thanks for the tip Clive, it almost worked !

I can now load the game, but get a CTD, when I try to load a track, any track actually  :eek:

I think I need a completely new installation of P&G ........ once more  :'(

Stig

Try to change the directx by the GTR2 config. For example, if you setted "auto", try with directx7 or 8, then check if the problem still stand.

Cya all,
pasword for practic ?

Thanks

In ogni gara di GTR2/P&G/GTL la password del server per gli allenamenti la trovi qui, ed è sempre la stessa per tutti e 3 i giochi https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929) (devi essere loggato nel forum per vederla).

La password per la gara viene rilasciata 24 ore prima della gara stessa. Basta che dai un' occhiata al topic della gara nello spazio sopra il primo post di qualsiasi pagina del topic. Al mometo mancano 49 ore al rilascio della password per questa gara (49 hours until password released (open series)), è lì che troverai la password. Ciao Marco :)

Translation:
you can find the practice server password for P&G/GTR2/GTL at this link https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929) (You must be logged in to see it).

Race password will be released 24h before the race. Just take a look to the race topic above the first post of any page. 49 hours missing before the password for this race will be released

 ;D

35 hours  ;D

Non mi fa entrare con la pass delle pratiche .

Non so il perche'

I have restarted the P&G server, but it was using the normal practice password

Come ha scritto phspok ha riavviato il server, ma era già impostata su quella del link che ti ho messo io. Io ho provato poco fa ed entro senza problemi. Sei sicuro di essere nella lobby di Pilsbierbude e non in quella dei Simbin? Non so cos' altro pensare ???

Synthesis: I joined the server without any issue with the normal password. Are you sure you are in the Pilsbierbude lobby instead of the Simbin one?

P.S @Clive: 29 hours ;)

I now have my P&G running nice and smoothe again :- ))

Just some laps on the server, and I think it's a great track. It has some nice  'brake late and your dead' spots,  that will ensure some Mustang-ploughing I'm sure  ;)

BTW, I don't remember the name of the small program, that enables you to check tyrewear, temp and fuel-usage correctly.

Help please !


Stig

XD ?

Yep, that was it, thanls Clive  ;D

Stig

Come e' la procedura per installare la lobby giusta ?

Grazie 1000

Yes, it is in the Heading for the race:


Racing in the Pilsbierbude lobby. Make sure your LOCAL _IP_LOBBY.TXT file (In the game folder) contains 91.121.102.7
Some have found that they can get straight in. Others have had to change their username or password or both.

So. edit the LOCAL _IP_LOBBY.TXT file in your main P&G game folder. perhaps copy it to LOCAL _IP_LOBBY.TXT.BCK first
and put 91.121.102.7 in it.

Then, the game will connect to the German Pilsbiere lobby. you may need to register a new name, I don't think it needs a password.

I won't be able to make this one, have fun.

Translation in Italian  ;D
Si gareggia sulla lobby di pilsbierbude. Nella cartella principale di P&G trovi il file LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT, aprilo con il blocco note e controlla che ci sia scritto questo indirizzo: 91.121.102.7
Salva il file e chiudilo. Apri il P&G, vai in internet e vedi se ti fa entrare in lobby con la user/password che usavi per la lobby Simbin. Se ti da errori o problemi o username/password non validi quando cerchi di loggarti in lobby, dovrai rifare una nuova registrazione (io l'ho fatta con lo stesso user/password che usavo per la lobby Simbin).

Se non dovesse funzionare neanche così, prova a copiare l'indirizzo 91.121.102.7 anche nel file LOCAL_IP_BACKUP_LOBBY.txt, salva e chiudi. Poi ripeti la procedura che ho scritto sopra. Se non dovesse funzionare neanche così, prova a passare in TS VDA, che io o qualcun altro proveremo a risolverti il problema :)

Sorry for the double language topic chaps :)

I had been hoping to join you lot for this one - But I've caught lurgy and would just be a liability when I start dozing off mid race  :-[
Have a good one chaps  :)

Can anyone tell me what the relative speeds of the cars are? I'm not going to have much time to try them before the race and don't want to take the fastest. Cheers.

For you I can't say , for me, they were all within 1 tenth

Vette is probably fastest in a straight line. but understeers more
The Falcon and the Mustang are quite similar. The falcon
might be a bit slower on the straight than the AATC Mustang

The Vette is probably the hardest to drive consistently
It wants to swap ends under power at every exit.

Thanks  :thumbup1:

Sounds like a plan then  ;D

Are Coupe and Roadster allowed?

Hmm, scratch that. Tried the Coupe and was too fast in it, while I found the Roadsters at least couple of seconds off the pace of the Mustang & Falcon.
Falcon it is, then  :)

Results and Replay Posted

Sorry for the bump on lap 1 John, cold tyres I guess.

Had some fun laps chasing Matt. What happened Matt, all of a sudden both you and Kurt were in the Pit ?

Stig

;D - yep -that was a funny moment - Matt and me, both Corvettes at the same time
at the same place in the countryside - lol.

Could improve in mastering the Corvette and found some good setup changes,
so I was nearly able to compete with the "slower" guys. Set new PB, had another
very good lap later on but after a second excursion in the countryside at that
particular place again I lost concentration and quit for good.

Nevertheless this was a funny one.

More and more curious about P & G V.3  ;)

No problem - I couldn't keep up with Clive anyway  :D

Think that I owe Matt a pint.  ;D

I managed to grab pole with a fluke lap and getting in John's way when he was on his flying lap probably helped too!  ::)

I made a good start and couldn't believe my luck when John didn't follow me out of the hairpin on lap one.  I was greatly disappointed when everyone let him back through again.  ;D

Then I put my head down and went as fast as I could.  John and I traded tenths over the next 39 laps and thankfully the first lap incident just gave me enough gap.  I'm sure that had John been close enough to harass me then the result could have been a whole lot different.

I think that Stig decided to get out of the way and let us fight it out after everyone else had left, making it a totally soggy podium.

Stig had given me a setup for the Mustang which I kept in reserve as I started practice with my NTK setup from Lime Rock.  That gave me plenty of opportunity to examine the excellent tyre wall.  The detail in the tread patterns was top notch.  I ended up just taming that setup and probably took off just a tad too much steering.  In its initial state the straight was a problem and braking a real issue!

As the race progressed the front tyres went off a bit but then I guess that John had the same problem because I was able to stay out of reach.

Many thanks for a great night's racing.  I was knackered by the finish.

And there's me thinking you were simply maintaining the gap to keep it interesting! Shame we weren't closer, but the only way I could get a really fast lap was to try and drift it all the way round the last corner... which seldom worked ;D Settled down after a while in the hope that you'd make a mistake, which you didn't :thumbup1:

I had no tyrewear problems at all Clive, so keep my serup for a long distance race :-))

Stig

Both Kurt and I went over the fence in the last turn on the same lap and both had to pick our way through
the scenery. Then I set about trying to catch Stig, but kept making mistakes, last one had me backwards into
that final fence and the car went up in flames, so I gave up. Good fun while it lasted though  ;D

Oh, and my tyres were wearing quite fast, and the car was getting more difficult to keep on the limit.