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Title: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Cookie on September 06, 2012, 11:59:23 AM +0100
WELCOME to the UKGPL Season 23 - Pro Trophy  

The 4th race of the season is at the home track of Sergio in Siracusa Sicily.  
This is a real Road Course with lots of stone walls. But its missing the elevations the real track has...


Pro drivers have a free car choice!
You have to keep your chosen car for the rest of the season,
you will only be allowed to swap chassis in exceptional circumstances and only with the approval of the moderator.
Driver lists can be found on the Pro Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=362&theme=6) championship standings page.

Please ensure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10879.0).
Drivers incurring a penalty will receive a PM informing them of this."

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race.
Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.
Full time drivers have priority access to the server until 21.00 UK time.
Please restrict your chat to a minimum!


Race List =   IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = tba
Race date = 11-09-2012
Qualification Time   = ~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 mins
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = Syracuse syracuse (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3339)
Variant = 65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = ~50 min -> 29 laps
RED ZONE = from race start to the hairpin "Curva della Madonnina"
Password = see above (#post_event_password)
Replay = you will get here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season23/Pros/)


GLA



PS
ATM SRMZ is down!
If you need the track I will upload it!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 06, 2012, 08:43:38 PM +0100
Yeah!
Excepting the main straight that is flat, all the remaining track goes up until the airpin (curva della madonnina) and then down to the lower part between curva carpinteri and curva floridia with also a banked last turn that is called "Sopraelevata" that means "Banked" !
Soon or later I will adjust the track with the correct altitudes but in the meantime...have a good race  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on September 07, 2012, 11:05:12 AM +0100
Found this video (and channel), awesome stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQbVf9Zw-Bk


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 10, 2012, 07:09:38 PM +0100
Nice video made with Fraps and TrackIR.
Like you can see, it seems that Siracusa is a city in the middle of a forest but it isn't at all. Siracusa is a marine city, and the circuit is in the middle of a orange and olive trees plantation with trees not taller than 7 meters. The circuit passes in front at two cemeteries, the comunal cemetery and the English WWII's cemetery and at last beside the milk central. I've turned around this circuit a lot when I was a young  roller speed skater because I've used it with team mates during winter training sessions.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on September 10, 2012, 07:28:28 PM +0100
Nice video made with Fraps and TrackIR.
Like you can see, it seems that Siracusa is a city in the middle of a forest but it isn't at all. Siracusa is a marine city, and the circuit is in the middle of a orange and olive trees plantation with trees not taller than 7 meters. The circuit passes in front at two cemeteries, the comunal cemetery and the English WWII's cemetery and at last beside the milk central. I've turned around this circuit a lot when I was a young  roller speed skater because I've used it with team mates during winter training sessions.

It's not my video lol...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Cookie on September 10, 2012, 10:43:27 PM +0100
Get the track + fix here (http://www.sendspace.com/file/x7cxfh)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 09:38:46 AM +0100
I need a little help from somebody !
When I make a replay with mod 65 and then I watch it, what I see is that all cars are the same also if the source of the replay, had several differents cars. Why and most of all how may I fix this issue ?
Thanks in advance,
Sergio.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Cookie on September 11, 2012, 09:47:37 AM +0100
Have you checked with the Replay Analyzer GPLRA, if this is the same here?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: maddog on September 11, 2012, 12:09:30 PM +0100
If the cars are all Brabhams, you'll have to fix the driver.ini.  It lurks in your main GPL folder.  :shifty:

EDIT :  Seems  don't know what year this is . . . . fix your driv65.ini, while I fix my watch!  Grumble.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 12:32:20 PM +0100
If the cars are all Brabhams, you'll have to fix the driver.ini.  It lurks in your main GPL folder.  :shifty:

No, my cars are all Fezzas !  :P ::)

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EDIT :  Seems  don't know what year this is . . . . fix your driv65.ini, while I fix my watch!  Grumble.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 12:40:15 PM +0100
Have you checked with the Replay Analyzer GPLRA, if this is the same here?

Uhm...I don't understand what GPLRA can say more. I didn't check with GPLRA yet but I'm guessing it will show me Fezzas all around, anyway I'll try this evening. :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: maddog on September 11, 2012, 01:58:35 PM +0100
You are suffering from the dreaded Tifosi bug !  Click on your driv65.ini and look at the Team numbers - they should be from 0 to 6.  If they are all 4, they are all Ferrari - you must get another driv65.ini.  If all the numbers are there. . . .  maybe move to Italy ? ???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: natan5 on September 11, 2012, 09:39:27 PM +0100
Great move there Clive ! Well done .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on September 11, 2012, 10:00:14 PM +0100
That was probably my shortest race.

Afther the start I was behind Andreas, but I was going a little bit fasther than him. I've kept my line on left next to the wall while Andreas kept his line in the middle of the race track.
At one point his car started to move into left(at least on my reply, witch I haven't saved). When he did that his car was still in front of mine, but because of the speed difference I wasn't able to avoid the crash. Sorry for that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 10:05:00 PM +0100
I don't know what happened but at 2nd lap there has been a huge heap and I'm find myself beyond the stone wall and...there was not a damn hole in that damn wall to return back on track so my race has come to end but...I've seen a few laps on camera car of each one remained on track and...with surprise I've seen a black flag for each driver still racing !!!  :P :o  ::) That means all DQ !
Never seen such a disaster like this before !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: FullMetalGasket on September 11, 2012, 10:35:20 PM +0100
That's wierd then Sergio - must admit I nearly crashed trying to work out if your comment had some hidden meaning ( :hammer: ) but didn't get any black flags at my end!

Did get 3rd somehow in a bent Ferrari though - bad luck Goren  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Cookie on September 11, 2012, 10:57:05 PM +0100
Sergio this was your black flag  ;)
Gpl let only you see it, I never saw one...

Great race, great fight with Hristo as long as it lasted, controlled the gap to Tristan and made only one tiny mistake in the hairpin...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 11:00:23 PM +0100
That's wierd then Sergio - must admit I nearly crashed trying to work out if your comment had some hidden meaning ( :hammer: ) but didn't get any black flags at my end!

Did get 3rd somehow in a bent Ferrari though - bad luck Goren  ;D

No hidden meaning, just at S/F line there was a marshal with a black flag for each one of you remained on track. It seemed very strange none of you saw it. I can't believe I was the only one to see this. Now I go to take a look to my replay. The marshal should be there I hope.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 11:06:27 PM +0100
Axel but I was not on my car, I was alternatively on each of your cars !!! Could the black flag to be shown to me also if I had already ditched the race ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 11, 2012, 11:10:35 PM +0100
Anyway my best compliments to the podium and...If I'll rebuild this track...I'll make a lot of holes into the stone wall so when a driver flies out of the wall he can return back on track as well  ::) :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on September 11, 2012, 11:32:08 PM +0100
Sergio, you know chatting during qualy and races is not allowed, right? That was a bad remark to make in the middle of the race...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: clouds on September 12, 2012, 07:50:38 AM +0100
Yes it is true, and probably about black flags showing only to me Axel said the right. I ditched so I watched the race from your cars and on the S/F line there was a marshal with a black flag. On my replay it is still there. I can only say that while I was out of fence, I've tried to regain the track going back and forth to look for an interruption in the stone wall but I found nothing, and a cartel showing I was been disqualified is popped up so in my last attempt to jump over the stone wall, I've crashed my Fezza and I gave up. I'm sorry for the only one message I've sent thinking something strange was happening, this will never happens again.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: EvilClive on September 12, 2012, 01:10:34 PM +0100
Apologies for my crash, although I did not do it intentionally...honest!!  :-\

Qually went well and I finally got the setup working to nail a 1:43 lap without a tow of any sort, only to see Hristo go a few tenths faster. But then, by now I should have expected that! :(

My gearing meant that I was slow off the line and Axel took advantage to slip through behind Hristo.

The first lap was OK and I took things easy waiting for the tyres to warm up. But, as the second lap started I misjudged the wall on the inside of T2 and just clipped the stonework, but it was enough to spit me across the track and start my impression of a pinball  !!!!

I was frantically pounding the "ESC" button because I knew that the pack would be thundering around the corner behind me. Sorry to whoever got caught up in the chaos, I know I was hit at least twice by passing cars before I could disco.  :no:

Grats to those that escaped the carnage and survived the race.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: MagicArsouille on September 12, 2012, 05:03:21 PM +0100
yoo ...

was a good race and very hot when Evil scrached  :o, I go throu and toutch just a bit the wall with no concequence .....but then Ilost lot of time and Inever can catch Cookie who was very solid leader....honda and brm looks very fast in the strait line.....
...anyway I can be satisfie of the result ...

see you in the U.S.A. ..... ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Cookie on September 24, 2012, 11:38:33 AM +0100
Moderation published


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: AnGex on September 24, 2012, 01:33:39 PM +0100
Moderation published



Hi there,
I am very surprised about the Moderation-Report. Even after the Race Bartosz gave me an excuse. I was driving extra careful because of the Starting-Zone and had the feeling that the car in front of me slowed down a bit. So I did it, too. Then I got a "Bang" from behind and was out of the race. In my opinion its always the car behind, that kicks you off, who is to blame.  Looks like I am wrong here and the next time I think a car in front of me struggle I will give the gas pedal an extra push instead of lifting off.
So long
Andreas 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on September 24, 2012, 04:55:39 PM +0100
Moderation published



Hi there,
I am very surprised about the Moderation-Report. Even after the Race Bartosz gave me an excuse. I was driving extra careful because of the Starting-Zone and had the feeling that the car in front of me slowed down a bit. So I did it, too. Then I got a "Bang" from behind and was out of the race. In my opinion its always the car behind, that kicks you off, who is to blame.  Looks like I am wrong here and the next time I think a car in front of me struggle I will give the gas pedal an extra push instead of lifting off.
So long
Andreas 


I haven't watched this situation on replay, but it's not always the car behind which is responsible. If someone is going very close behind you, it's your responsibility to be predictable and don't brake/lift up in a place which the driver behind doesn't expect. Not saying this is the case here, but just an example when the driver in front is responsible.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: AnGex on September 25, 2012, 01:30:50 PM +0100
Thanks for your reply and telling your opinion, Hristo.
OK, lets say: In the most cases its the one behind who is responsible.  ;) Specially in this case. You may watch the Replay.
I am always willing to learn and I sure will learn from this one. Like in your signature: Next time I worry about the car in front of me and I am in doubt - I give it flat out!
Looking forward to the next one.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: BadBlood on September 25, 2012, 05:34:03 PM +0100
In this particular case Andreas it looks as though you lifted the gas and thus slowed unexpectedly. When looking at the replay we look at all cars involved and from a variety of angles. In this case the critical one is the in-car view - revs definitely drop...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: AnGex on September 26, 2012, 01:26:13 PM +0100
Hi Paul,

as I said before: I sure lifted the gas. Because I was aware about first lap, first corner, just the start. In my feeling the car in front of me lifted too, I thougt. Corner was in approach. It´s gone now. We even have the next Race behind.  :) I am looking forward for the next.
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Professionals Trophy (65) - Syracuse - Sep 11
Post by: BadBlood on September 28, 2012, 12:28:05 AM +0100
 :)