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Well, i was blown away by it.

http://www.virtualr.net/raceroom-racing-experience-teaser-released

Yes, its only a teaser, with all aids on around a fictional track as a timetrial competition but the sounds are amazing, the graphics are amazing, there is a good means of adjusting the FFB and visually i get far more feedback from it as the screen is moving around alot exagerating the movement.

I just tried to drive the iR GT40 aafter and it felt a bit numb! think i'll go back to it...

Not much to do tonight so I'm downloading the free teaser right now. Hope to give it a dam good thrashing later.

The download didn't take too long and the install was painless, however you don't appear to get a choice in where it goes (C:/ by default)

You only get one car and one track (Fantasy) and everything is set at Moron level. I hate driving cars with LCD displays as everything happens so quickly you never get a chance to look at it! Don't enjoy these modern motors so perhaps I'm not the best person to ask about the handling, feel etc. It all seemed OK but as every driving aid is switched on (probably) it's no wonder I was hot lapping without any spins, crashes etc. The menu is easy to navigate but as this is a cut down version a lot of choices are greyed out. The software found my G27 OK and provided an adequate set of settings which I didn't feel the need to change except for the steering lock which was set to shallow for my taste. Graphics/sound are what you would expect from a new sim engine, no complaints with those. The track sucks IMO (think Namco arcade stylee) but it does give you every kind of turn imaginable so in that respect it does it's job well. You can set up a ghost car (your best lap) to race after but this gets boring quite quickly. You can also turn on a "racing line" but I didn't as I find that takes away the fun of learning it for yourself, whilst learning the track. Oh yes you can also join a world leaderboard of fastest laps if your that bothered (I wasn't).

I wonder if the multiplayer will allow AI drivers and what content will be available (at cost) later?

Worth looking at as I get a sneaking feeling that Pay to Race might well become the way to go for this software house. Hope they go Historic tho as these modern cars leave me cold.

Well the saleen has made it fun 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Must be the arcade physics as it doesnt feel as heavy, soft and understeerery as the GTR2 version!

Steam is currently saying the game is now released, but havent got round to playing with it.

Anyone tried this yet?  Watched some vids on steam and looked pretty good, though couldnt make my mind up if the cars looked like they were moving about realistically  :-\

I see theyve just got some RuF Porsches in to play with too  8)

I'm usually keen to try new sims, but this one just doesn't appeal somehow  :-\ I hate to be cynical, but isn't this Simbin's response to their seemingly abandoned GTR3 ?

What they neglected to mention is its still a beta.

But unless you start spending money on buying tracks and cars your left with a demo, one track and about 5 or 6 cars.

Annoyingly i doesnt work with 3 screens, defaults to the middle one.

didnt know they had abandoned GTR3?  but wouldnt surprise me with the ridiculous strangle-hold some console software companies have obtained on different car brands  >:(  hence why you see a RuF porsche rather than the real deal etc.  ::)  its hard to offer a modern sim based on the GT scene.

Rf2 seems to be slowly adding more content but are taking forever. I havent touched that for months either. Amazing we are still having to use GTR2 after 5+ years !

From what I read Simbin had to make a decision to do a one-off purchase game with content (like GTR2) or have a pay service online (like iRacing) and drip-feed content. I would have preferred GTR3 and paid for one or two DLC packs over the following year. Plus, like iRacing, these online communities are just the same. You race one model of car (not a nice selection like a real race series) and usually with strangers so there isn't much of a community feel anyhow.


This is the most encouraging for me. I got it 6 months ago and was hugely impressed by the FFB. Admittedly progress is slow but they are taking their time to get it right and haven't hung themselves with any release dates being published. But progress is obvious from trying each update and already 3rd party mods are being released.

I have the small £10 package for pCARS but my comp can't run it on any decent graphics settings so I'd rather not drive it at all for now.

The next generation of sims are taking their time to come out but all this competition has to be healthy! And one or two should rise to the top!!!! My rig is getting old now and my card (GTS 250) is struggling so I'm leaving it to the last minute to upgrade!

Well there's every chance that AC will be released in the very near future  8)

Just hope my duo core E8400 and GTX460 will cope with it as I'm in no mood for big upgrades atm  :-\

I think there's more than one track. I tried it a little bit, and found a rally like track through the woods. That's beside the first track, which was some fantasy purpose built track (don't remember any track names). Can you earn ingame currency by racing, setting fastest laps and such or is it only buy game currency with real money?

Hi guys,

Stumbled on to some new releases (patches and DLC) for this title. Looks like in in its newest state it could be considered a proper race game.. despite its controversial purchase model. ::) Anyone here has tried it lately and wants to share his opinion here?
Cheers

I tried the demo very briefly quite a while back and wasn't very impressed. Seems like there has been a lot of work since then and the latest version comes out better in some of the reviews I've read so might give the demo another run in the next few days.

The purchase model seems sensible as the various car packs at least give a choice depending on your racing taste though the actual cost of these is a bit confusing at first glance.

I've seen some good things talked about this recently with a few major updates to the driving model, tires etc. Ininitialy tried it when it came out and enjoyed it but the whole pricing model scared me. Keep meaning to try it out again though it is a big download, along with the updated rF2

Alright. Will be good to hear some opinions from people with experience with GTR2 and AC (and RF2 maybe)...

I think i will try it myself too as it seems to be on sale on steam atm. Ends on 22 of june. (ohh and so is Assetto Corsa for that matter!! At € 34,99 for AC + dreampack 1. Ofcourse just as i blew my money on a Logitech DFGT.... ;D)


mmm rather nice too... https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=71&v=2iyX9CZzvvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=71&v=2iyX9CZzvvo)

Been giving this a go and I must say it's very good  8)

Strongpoints are ffb and sound which are by far the best I've experienced in any sim. There's a decent range of cars and tracks available which are well grouped and some real tasty packs on offer.....DRM, DTM past and present as well as various GTs and protos for example.

As for physics it's hard to say  :-\ It's a lot more fun to drive than AC which might suggest simcade to some but after a quick multiplayer race I reckon the R3E cars look more convincing in the way they move around on track.

The game is a bit buggy at the moment and is still very much in development but if it continues to improve I can see it becoming my sim of choice especially for offline fun. Highly recommended  :)

I just tried the demo of this, and initial impression was quite good.
I keep trying AC but it feels so unreal I get cross with it and close it down
within a few minutes. This one is to me a much better sim, though it has something
of the AC lack of feel to the steering, having FB helps, and the FB is good
The graphics are not as slick as AC, but the cars feel way better to drive
though still not as good as GTL or P&G for "involvement" in the driving experience
everything sort of wanders around the track as if you are just "aiming" it
AC is horrible for that IMHO, this is "ok" Maybe just I need to get more used to it
as it does seem like it's worth some time. I like the car pack choices, though there
seems to be a lot of DTM options, I don't think I want more than one modern DTM season car set.  ???

thanks for your impressions guys. I will be downloading R3E too this week and have a go.

For what its worth...For the next 30 hours there is an extra discount on AC + Dream pack 1... Only € 24,99
Looks like quite the bargin to me, even if you are not sure it is the best sim for you.

By the time I have figured out the obscure menu systems in AC I am already about to pack it
before I even get onto the track. And then when I do get the car moving, it doesn't steer properly
and it handles like an arcade game, and on my older machine it stutters quite badly, so I won't be
buying any packs for AC. I am more likely to buy some car packs for this though, as I think it
"feels" better, and on low detail it runs quite well on my older system.
If there was enough interest we could run a series or two.

So far I have only tried a Beemer, and the sound does not wow me, it sounds like a weedy two stroke
I assume the sounds for other cars is a lot better.

Did you try lowering the damper setting in the FFB menu? If it's at anything higher than 0 the feedback, to me at least, feels too arcadey - put it at zero and it does handle a lot more realistically.

It's trying to set things like that which make me want to throw it before I drive it
The menu system is annoying to me. I did spend some time trying to change FB
and steering angle, and I got it so I could drive it, but it just never "feels" right to me.
RRR is similar, but I was easily able to fiddle and get it to something that felt much better.

To e its a cross between GTR2 and Race07 so i am surprised you guys are enjoying it. Though i am definatly in the camp of, i dont care if its hardcore or not, as long as i enjoy it!

Race07 was the best of the simbin releases for me, the cars felt right, at least the BTCC ones did.
Was a shame it never became popular

No content that excites me so I'll pass on this'n.  :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1:

Spent a bit of time (and money  ::)) on this now and I'm liking it even more.


Have you tried any of the historic touring cars? Once you've downloaded the free game (approx. 15Gb  :o) you can test drive all of the cars in game as many times as you like (make sure you've mowed the lawn before you start). You can even buy a single car for a couple of £s and then race it on the free tracks against those in its class without owning the rest of that class.....online or offline. If you then decide to buy the car pack, you get a discount for the car(s) you already own.

The Gr5 DRM cars are a joy to race with just the right feeling of difficulty and they look and sound superb on track  :wub: If I'm picky the cars feel a little too forgiving on the brakes to me (but what do I know) but the required throttle control seems spot on. Graphics and ffb take a bit of fine tuning but can be made to be extremely good and well worth the effort imho.

Missed the Historic Touring Cars, my bad  ::) . Thanks for pointing that out. Lawn is mowed so no excuse not to investigate further, cheers Tudor.

I saw that RaceRoom on steam has some of the DLC on sale 50% at the moment.

Also, All content will be free to use for one weekend (June 27th and 28th).

Bought the DTM 1992 car pack for £3.99 but haven't had a chance to try them out yet.

Just spotted that they have released a Group 5 car pack which looks very tasty. If I get on with the cars I've already purchased I may well be tempted.

Remember you can test drive all cars by clicking "Store" ingame which takes you to a page where you can view all the available content.

I bought the Gr5 pack, DTM '92 pack, M1 Procars and the M3 touring car along with the European and American track packs which is my historic racing fix sorted (and my pocket money well and truly blown  ::)). I probably won't bother with the modern cars atm as AC covers that for me.

Had a trial race and loved it (maybe cos I won). I like how everything is set up and you don't have to spend hours clicking things on and off just to do a few laps. Recognised my wheel and apart from assigning some features to buttons and turning down the FFB I was good to go. Just have to work out how to get my Track IR to work as it is clearly ingame. But I think that's a Track IR thing, not a problem in this game. I have now bought the Gr.5 pack and the European track pack.

BTW, Procars will feature in our 2016 GTL season (but don't tell anyone  :oops: )

Variety is the spice of life/driving.....  :thumbup1:

I am thinking of a possiblility, no more than that at the moment, that P&G might alternate with some events for this
if there is enough interest. If it falls flat on it's face, so be it, if not it might catch on?

Ooo my ears have pricked up!

I'm just trying to imagine what our Clive will have to say about this  :laugh:

I'd be up for any of the historic content  8)

Me too

Two observations on Raceroom. Although I have realistic damage turned on, I don't see any e.g. the cars I hit don't dent? Also, compared to AC all the content are racing cars, not road cars, which is a plus IMO.

The Clives will cope. It's just a thought. I have to download more than the demo before I can pluck up enough
interest to make any series of it. I like P&G and am happy to keep it going as long as it feels worth it.

I would also like to look at new possibilities. I don't get on with AC, and others are carrying that banner
so maybe this deserves some of our time.

As all content is unlocked and free to use over this coming weekend (5pm Friday until 5pm Sunday I believe) it might be a good opportunity to set up some trial events  ;)

Saturday I am doing real racing at Aintree, and Sunday it's a family birthday do
Sunday afternoon would not be a popular time I reckon.
I want to try the historic stuff and perhaps run an event for those initially.
I will see what can be done. I haven't seen any local server stuff yet
I assume the races all run on their server for the moment?
And, has anyone tried this is on line mode?

Well there's nothing on the telly Friday night  :D

Looks like there is a free raceroom dedicated server tool available on Steam https://steamdb.info/app/354060/

I had a quick online race the other night and it all seemed to go smoothly enough.

Darn. I am off this weekend to watch the Dutch TT at Assen, so no time to try it until sunday afternoon maybe..
I have already installed the game, so maybe i will see you guys online..

I have put up a test server "Phspok1" with norisring and the 1992 cars if anyone would be kind enough to try it out?
Password is our usual practice password.

it's not on our paid server, it's on my home brewed one. I would like to give it a whirl, Next week on Tuesday is the
Interleague P&G event, (Which I forgot to advertise...)and I haven't put up an LCC event for Thursday yet
so as there is already one P&G event next week, would anyone be interested in a test race next Thursday evening?
usual sort of P&G times?

I can do Thursdays.

Will have to skip Tuesday, but interested for R3E on Thursday. Just haven't bought any content yet.. Spend it all on a DFGT and Assetto Corsa :angel:
Willing to buy a single car for this purpose though.

You will need Norisring too.

I have AI set to Adaptive in my offline Championship. I easily won at Brands Hatch so looked forward to round 2 at Zandvoort. I was totally outclassed. Qualified midfield and was bashed off the track on the first lap. Also my wheel and view settings were corrupted after I went to replay so had to set them up again.

Oh, but not this Thursday (25th). I'm racing at Race Connect tonight so that's my quota for the week I'm afraid, sorry guys.

The test event will be next week, not this week.
There is a P&G event at Oulton Park this week, which all are invited to.

It doesn't need to be Norisring if people have not bought the Euro Track pack.

That's just what it's running at the moment.

I have restarted the server with a "RaceRoom" track. I don't know it yet, but I think it's a free one.

Just hopped onto server to test and a couple of things I noticed Matt. The practise session moved on to quali ok but quali seemed to start on track in hotlap mode instead of from pits which is how it's been in other online races I've tried. Also when you drive into the pitlane the auto pilot takes over which I've not noticed before. Maybe these are related to server settings?

Here's a guide...

https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/multiplayer-dedicated-how-to.687/

The raceroom track is free but it's a bit dull imo and doesn't really show RR at its best. Portimao is also one of the included free tracks and has several layouts which could be a bit more exciting.

Glad to see RR is being given a chance. I much prefer the DTM '92 cars to their similar models in AC and even though the cars lack a bit of setup detail (most notably tyre pressures) they more than make up for it in feel. I'll be there next Thursday  :)

In offline the ai takes over your car for pitstops. Also don't think the garage lets you tinker with fuel (unless I've missed that).

If the test is week Thursday count me in.

What the smack? I was so happy driving the E90 DTM Assetto Corsa earlier this week and now you are implying i bought into the wrong game GT? ;)

You try it for free on Steam this weekend.

I spent a bit more time with this last night, and I am getting to like it.
Managed to get the steering so I could drive it by reducing the lock from 900 down to 400 on my G27
and now it feels "normal" The sound needs some mixing I think. The engine noise is weedy compared to the
road noise/tyre scrub etc, so pushed those down to 50% and the engine at 100% and it sounds more
realistic now. I set off Portimao on my server, and changed a couple of settings, so maybe it will now
start in the pits rather than mid track.The on line is still lacking a lot of features, or I just can't find them....
No replays, no results file, can't see whether anyone is connected other than from the server web page
but that seems to lie.

The Multiplayer is only Beta tho

Yep, it actually say "Alpha" on mine, so it's a way to go yet.

hi,

how the cars do drive in raceroom game is great,
and the game did improve extrem to good in last months/year.

i did already any online races (not public races) and you can drive extrem close to other drivers and no shake shake like in GTR2, perhaps netcode is name for this, the online is much better then AC, GTR2 for example, same level as rf2 is.
any things still missing like results, changeable weather and save different setups for same track/car (only last setup it do save for a car in a track), and perjhaps any other which i have forgot (like it is in every new racegame)
but drive online close to other cars is so much fun in raceroom game (here is AC miles behind, i still do not trust AC online, if i drive very close to other car, so i let always little space between cars to be save), the FFB effect very good too (for me), grafic is very good too, little behind AC and pcars, but after any time if you drive then suddently it looks so realistic the car/track, no idea why this is for me, AC looks a little sterile (but little better, especialy the cars) and the carsound is very good too.

for me it is best new racegame actual, is simply like the carhandling and feeling if you drive, if any missing things do come in future all is good, but same as in AC, it takes endless time till the game is finished.
i do nearly drive only the GT3 cars (ADAC gt masters), so i can not speak about all cars.

but somehow not much driver do make online races, probably because of the system hw you can pay so much different cars/track, and many do not have every car/track combination, the prize for car/tracks is not so much, if you do NOT buy single cars or tracks, the carpack or trackpacks are good for money, but there are so much which you can buy, so if you have all things, it is then realy expensive, it is always good to buy if special low prices days/weeks are.

i would be happy if UKGTR do make races with raceroom game, actual i do make 1x a week a race in RD, but sadly there are not much drivers in the races (only in WTCC races, here sometimes people from sector3 do drive too, think jay ekkel and someone which name is ortner (or similar to this), but i do not like WTCC cars, so i do not make this races.

servus

Wow i wasnt expecting that, theres no accounting for taste :P

I took me along time to get AC FFB to my liking, I've only briefly played it but it didnt feel quite so raw as even GTR2, but it felt like Race 07, more interms of the modern looking interface. Only tried the Saleen round Portimao for a few laps.

Do you have to buy carpacks or can you do single cars? How do you earn points to buy things? Does it take forever?

Successfully joined your server Matt and in Pits

You only need to buy a single car to race against the other cars from each car set and that goes for online or offline. You never pay for any content twice, for example if you buy a single car then decide to buy the car pack containing that car you'll get an automatic discount for the content you've previously purchased. You can test drive any car as often as you like. You can't test drive tracks (except for this weekend  ;D) and obviously you have to own the track before you can race on it. Not sure about earning points....haven't seen that  :-\

After being an enthusiastic supporter of AC, I now prefer RR by some margin  :o

Right, will download this and see whats what...if I d/l 15gigs of data and spend pennies and its carp, I will be knocking at your door GT  ;)
The variety of cars has got my interest and hearing good reviews from learned chaps like GT  :)


...but hang on, what about Project Cars? is this better than that?

hmm, well im downloading the mammoth install but got to say I just watched numerous videos of the various cars on youtube and it looked carp! The cars moved around totally unrealistically and it just looked like an arcade game  :-\  Only thing keeping me installing is it got the thumbs up from respected drivers like GT and Berger but I remain to be convinced.

Each to his own MJ, but once I got the steering more or less sorted it drives like a modernised P&G/GTR2
Enough people are fans of AC that it must be good, but I have never got on with it, whereas this one
is relatively easy to get into. It's not arcade like IMHO, it actually takes a bit more skill than GTR2 to get
round at a good pace.

I will be running a test race Thursday night with the same format as our P&G events for anyone who
wants to come along. I want to run it with the '92 cars, but if that causes issues I will run with
free cars if that's possible.

Well. first impressions are that it is not exactly next gen, but a good evolution of GTR. I it may look not as sharp as AC, but it sure seems convincing to me. Most important however is how it feels and if it generates good racing.

So lets just see what is what first. It is not a finished product yet and indeed not a whole lot of historic content yet. It is a plus that the cars belong to a pack, which can easily race together. I believe that AC will provide more DLC and that it might give AC a much longer lifespan in the long run (look at GTL.)

For now i have bought me a nice ´92 DTM race car for € 1,25....

Skinflint  ;D

is it because i am Dutch?? :P

Only if you and your lady both pay  ;D

Can someone point me towards the Multiplayer setup app please?

DO you mean the dedicated server? If so it's in the list of apps in steam.
you install it and then configure the events from a browser login.

Yeah, that's what I cannot find

Steam/Library/Tools

Ok ta.

A couple of screen shots from tonight's test race.
Thanks to all who came along, and thanks to Reinhard for doing the whole race  ;)

ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/raceroom%20racing%20experience/2015-07-03%200007%200002.jpg (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/raceroom%20racing%20experience/2015-07-03%200007%200002.jpg)
ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/raceroom%20racing%20experience/2015-07-03%200004%200001.jpg (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/raceroom%20racing%20experience/2015-07-03%200004%200001.jpg)

Replay seems to be working now. I restarted the server with all the tracks I have, and included the Group 5 cars, which look interesting.

Right, having used R3E now for a couple of days in anger i must admit that i like this game. No, graphic wise it is not your AC or PCars, but the detail of the cars and tracks are very good and give me real immersion. And the sound!...

Physics seem fine too. Although maybe overall a little too much understeery. I tried a Chevy Monza Gr.5, BMW E30, MB 190E DTM, Judd BMW and the DTM Stang for now. Can't say  R3E is exactly like real life, but at least the FF is convincing to me. But that might be down to me using a proper wheel now...
Also the netcode seems to be pretty alright and that's important to me because i only do multiplayer.

Track selection is good too and I do like the way the car packs are well matched. Just curious to see if there will be any more historic content because i appreciate modern GT cars, but i get my fix from the older cars. I don't see it as a replacement for GTL & PnG just yet..

Still lacking important features here so Sector 3 better get a move on if they want to stand a chance to PCars and AC. It needs to be a complete game, proper multiplayer experience to support leagueracing and the physics/immersion to be on par.
Maybe the overall feel of R3E is good because it is actually like a GTR3.0 :angel:? All looks and feels familiar.

I will be trying AC for the coming weeks now, then i can make a better comparison. Still if this game gets its place here or not in future, it has earned its place on my pc. We are just spoilt for choice really! ;)

Had a quick look at the replay last night and it looks stunning...cars look great and move around very convincingly.

Group 5 cars? Now that does sound interesting  :)

Anyone fancy a Group 5 cars test race next Thursday?
If we do, I would like to use a different track, but it doesn't have to be a bought one.

Yep, I'd be up for that. But we should all buy the European track pack otherwise we are going to be really limited for choice.

http://game.raceroom.com/store/pack/european-tracks-pack

Love to try the Redbull Ring

As Tony says, the euro track pack is good value or if anyone fancies adding the ADAC 2014 GT pack that's also good value and includes many of the euro tracks.

Might be worth finding out who owns what...I have the following but don't mind adding to them if needed:

Euro track pack
US track pack
Suzuka

Euro track pack

hello,

i did test a little the grou5 cars if they was free last weekend,
i did test the ford capri (think it was it, not so used in this names of cars), i did like the car, it did remember me on the DRM mod. in rf1, but a little bit better car feeling and of course better grafic and sound,
cars are not so easy to drive then cars we did this thursday (dtm92 i think was name), but great feeling too (somehow i like raceroom handling of cars very much, little more then AC, but only a little little).

if i remember correct, then other then algarve, only the raceroom fictional track is for free too, but this is a very very bad track, no fun.

i do have the europa track pack, i think i only do not have shanghai (but did test last weekend too), salzburgring and perhaps 1 other track not.
mainly i did buy tracks with what comes from DTM game and adac gt3 game and the europa track pack and the america track pack + bathurst.

if there is another raceroom testrace i hope i can make it again, i like this game (but like the other new racegame, not finished).

servus

Which other racegame that is not finished Reinhard?

I have Euro and American pack, and i think Bathurst.

I think he may be referring to Project Cars?

Yes I exepct so.

There are some files in directories here on the server:

C:\Users\fred\Documents\My Games\SimBin\RaceRoom Racing Experience\UserData\Log_Dedicated\2015_07_04_14_44_07_823_PID_18600_1708_1713_3499_1778

But they are not plain text, and I can't make sense of them.
There are a dozen or so directories with names like:

2015_07_04_14_44_07_823_PID_18600_1708_1713_3499_1778
SO these may relate to the events/races, but they look more like session start files.
Names are: Game, General, and MWTransport

hello phspok,

i do write about pcars (which i like much for drive, but have endless problems) and AC too, many things not work good in AC too (results, tyres temperature inside-middle-outside, no 1st gear you can do in start of race, pitstop is not manuel drive and a very very not good pitstop system too, fiddle fiddle with mouse all things, collision in multiplayer is behind raceroom game or behind rf1 and rf2 too, career mode is not good, and for sure many other things which are not so good as it was in the old games, so for me AC is not realy finished and ready for good leagues and there are apps needed for help which not come from kunos).
in rf2 and gsc are nearly finished, only any little things are needed, like weather in GSC, rf2 i think there are only little little things which will be finished in future, but not so sure, as i do not understand all things which is written in english and i do not so often drive rf2 too.

edit....did forgot to write that in AC the computer drivers are most bad i ever did see in any racegame, here i like rf2 most.
but i like AC for good carhandling and good grafic and i wish very much that it will be any updates for this racegame in future to improve the not so good things, same as it is with raceroom too.

servus

OK, I am going to run another test/Fun race this Thursday.
I am open to suggestions, but unless someone wants different, it will be Speilberg (REd Bull ring?)
with the Group 5 cars.

As Reinhard says, these are quite a bit more challenging to drive. and He's not wrong  :o
The Chevvey Dekon is beyond my skill level. The Corvette is absolutely fab :-)  is drivable and sounds awesome
the others vary between insane and "a bit tail happy"
I have to set the suspension full hard front and full soft rear to get any of them round a track at race speeds (my race speeds that is)

The event will be the usual sort of format. I might limit it to 30 mins so people don't get bored if there are low numbers
The Speilberg track is maybe one of the most challenging as well, particularly T1 in these cars is quite an experience

The server is up now, and will stay up. I might reset it at 19:20 for the event practice, then the usual 20min qual @20:20
and a 30 min race starting at ~20:40 Password will be our normal race password. PM me if you don't know what that is .

Sounds good Matt. Thanks for organising. I will try to be there. Tried the carset at Nurburgring GP circuit. Love the way the in car sound changes as you go up the start finish straight between the pits and buildings. You can hear the echo of the engine, superb.

Sounds good to me, I'll be there  :)

Incidentally there's another update due very soon (possibly Tuesday) so dedi server could be affected by this.

Good news is that it brings the Nissan R32 to compete with the existing slower touring classics cars which will all receive physics updates to balance their performance. This could also be a very attractive addition for league racing as the cars are a lot of fun to drive without being too challenging.

https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/touring-classics-pack.2135/

There's a classic looking Audi as well, not sure I have that, for this event I want to stick to the Gr5 set
we can try other cars at another event if people want to.

I am not bothering to ask about running this stuff formally on our server yet, but I will see what we can do
if there is enough interest.

We could do with a race announcement thread for this or it is in danger of disappearing without trace.

I am on leave now for a week, so I will try to get something a bit more solid together for race pages etc.
Tonight's race did write to my ftp server, it saved the .xml which is the race and qual results:

Can be found here:


ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/RRE/Results/201507090917.xml (ftp://phspok.dyndns-web.com/RRE/Results/201507090917.xml)

I'm in CPH this evening and I therefore had the chance to test RRE some more.

I bought the DTM Mercer from 92' and tried some on line racing at Portimao.

The car felt great, and it was real easy to race close. I particularly like the very good side view and the rear view in this sim.

I love this game already  thumbup2

Stig

Another one of those drive all the cars/tracks for free this coming weekend together with a series of summer sales over the next few weeks.

https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/raceroom-summer-sale.2420/#post-24558

The first week's sale includes 25% off (if I read it correctly) the Group 5 car pack, the DTM '92 car pack and the Euro track pack  8)

We ought to do something on these free weekends. Maybe run a GT race so all those ACers can discover how much better RR is  ;)  :angel:

I am away this weekend. I can put up some events on the server if wanted though, just say what you want and I'll set it up
to cycle through them.

ohh boy... I had just made up my mind to concentrate on AC for a couple of races. This is something i can not resist though.. Sorry to my wife and kids in advance. Daddy has no time for you this weekend. ;D

Thanks for the heads up GT. :thumbup1:

So what are vRPs at the RaceRoom.com site? These imply you can buy stuff at 55 or 60% off.

It's some kind of Steam related virtual currency, which I don't get the point of. You can see the price in GBP in your basket.

It's their virtual currency, and this weekend there is a sale on some of the stuff, mostly the stuff that
we have been playing with on here - the Euro track pack, and the older car sets.

http://www.raceroomstore.com/shop_en/vrp

Why do people do this.....

The Euro Track Pack is 2649 vRPs at http://game.raceroom.com/store/pack/european-tracks-pack but I have to go to http://www.raceroomstore.com/ to buy the vRPs. I was expecting to find this as a buyable item on Steam but I can't find it. So the track pack is basically £20 then depending on currency conversion rates with further 25% off at the weekend?

If we were to run this on our rented server will we need to run Steam and purchase the content we with to use?

RR purchasing system is confusing and occasionally borders on misleading. Here's a thread which tries to explain the various ways to go about it....

http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/r3e-pricing-discounts-and-tips.107497/

Personally if you're going to buy into the game I would advise purchasing 5000 vrp from the RR virtual store which equates to £24.50 GBP.

http://www.raceroomstore.com/shop_en/vrp

This should be enough to at least buy the euro and US track packs and a few well chosen cars from the series that appeal. Over the next 4 weeks certain content will be reduced by 25% so you can hold out spending your vrp until the content you want is reduced.

Bear in mind that steam also have sales independent of RR which can work out much better value but tend to be more limited in the range of content they offer. Also RR had a 50% off all content sale a couple of weeks ago so the current 25% looks a bit mean by comparison  :angel: Also consider that you cannot spend your vrp in steam....there you go, confusing/misleading or what?

Thanks GT for the help/advice

You can purchase stuff from within the game through steam. That's how I've bought all my stuff so far.
I need to test this, but, I don't think the server needs the game files. I have installed the game and the server prog on my server
machine, and every time I start up the server program it needs a steam login, but after that, when I start up the game itself
on my game system it just disconnects the steam account on the host system, and it works fine, until I stop the server
service or reboot the machine it's on. I can stop and start the server from within it's web page and change tracks/cars etc and it doesn't need a steam login again for that.

True and the more content you buy in a single shot the more discount you receive on that particular multiple purchase. However I still think pre-purchasing vrp in bulk is better value and it gives you the flexibility to spend that vrp to take advantage of these sales offers that come up.

I believe the vrp system is there to take advantage of cross border tax variances and to give RR control over its pricing, independent of steam.

Agreed. Just I didn't know what content I wanted until I started doing stuff, so bought things as I was going.

Thanks Matt but I don't think pickup structure will attract many/any of us as no-one will know who's where and at what time etc.

It's a good opportunity to try something different and open up some of our existing drivers to RR. Suggestion: how about a Sunday breakfast time race with the 2014 GT3 pack at somewhere familiar (Suzuka/Nurby/Hungaroring/Laguna Seca) maybe even include the Daytona protos or the Radicals to spice it up.

We need a race announcement to promote it though.

I can set it up easy enough. I am away and won't be allowed access to a PC on pain of death.
The sessions don't start until someone connects, so if I set a 30 min practice, the clock starts when one driver
connects, but..... it resets to 30 mins again if he drops and reconnects  :o
SO if you want to join the server and stay connected than it will work.
I don't have any modern cars as that's not really where my interest lies, but I can do it no prob.

Thanks Matt.....obviously not sure how many will turn out but we can but try.

Remember it's a free weekend so no-one has to own any of the content to race. Holding it Sunday morning sounds a little crazy but it gives new drivers a chance to setup and try out sometime Friday/Saturday and won't interfere with our Sunday night AC race. The downside being we might have to use up a few brownie points in doing so.

No probs here. What time should we aim for?

Normal race time, if too late I drop into the soft stuff with max negative brownie points, any time after 7.30 BST would be best throughout the weekend.  ;D

Well I can make anytime as I always have an abundance of brownie points  :angel-wings:

Trouble is Friday and Saturday evenings are hopeless for many and Sunday evenings is AC/GTR2 time.

I just thought a Sunday morning breakfast race is less likely to impact anyone's day. Might be worth putting up an announcement minus a start time which would gauge driver's interest and availability.

Sorry guys but weekend sim-racing is always impossible for me  :(

I am banished to far flung Bristol next week so won't be around to race anything
I will put up a server if anyone wants one? What cars/tracks do you want.
Otherwise I will put another event on when I come back maybe run through the 4 groups again over the next
few weeks? I am in Glasgow in 3 weeks and Brum for a couple of weeks after that so my racing will be
limited by real life  :(

When Dave has time to create a results importer I will put on a series of some sort
and if it becomes well supported I will keep it going, if not it will die a horrible death burning in the
flames of hell  :devil:

Thanks to all those who have come along to taste so far.  :thumbup1:

Like to participate if I can sort out my lack of mirrors problem.

Bill, press the gear cogs icon thingy on the top right of the opening RR screen. If you're already in a game click options.

Then click on Control Settings>Secondary Functions

On the right you'll see options to map various keys/buttons. Double click on "Toggle Virtual Mirror" and hit a suitable key. Might be worth going through all of these and mapping them to convenient places on your wheel and keyboard.

I'll be a bit hit and miss over the next few weeks too with various outings and commitments but I'll make all the races I can.

Me to, so I would hold off the online stuff FTTB. Probably be more updates anyway.

Thanks, I have the "1 Key " designated to toggle mirror".  When I use this I get "mirrors turned off on game options" but my HUD Setting shows both toggle setting as "on".  Are there any other setup Functions concerned with mirrors please?

Problem sorted.  ;D In the basic video settings screen the virtual mirror is not included but it is in the Customer Settings.  Inadvertently, in reducing setting to improve frame, I turned virtual mirror to off.  :oops: :oops:

Something to note if you do want to change from the default video setting to improve frame rates as meant I missed Sunday morning's race.  :rockon:

I have not bothered with the virtual mirror Bill, as the car mirrors seem to be pretty good.

So I've just installed RRE and now it's showing an opening video in slow motion and it's all washed out. I've tried ESC, Space, Enter, left click, right click etc to get rid of it but it won't go :( It's been running for 10 mins now. What am I meant to be doing?

The video loops so I guess I'm meant to interact with it to stop it...... It's too subtle for me to work out.

I will have a look, I don't think you need to install RRE, just the server prog.
Um the server looks fine, I reset it to DTM92 Norisring as a test, set it back if you like

The game usually plays some vid or advert while it's loading then you "press any key"
Only thing I remember was steam playing a video, or their web page, I don't remember the game itself
playing anything, just some advert screen in the background while it's loading.

Set the server to run whatever you like :)

I had to install RRE because until I did that the Race Room Experience Dedi Server was not listed in the Steam tools list.

I've now found something in the Steam discussion group for RRE and I've had to set some mythical runtime options to get it to work but it does run now.

Ross at Raceconnect has kindly promoted our current Thursday night historic series on their site so I thought I'd return the favour for their upcoming Tuesday series.

http://www.raceconnect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=6178

Maybe there will be some crossover as Raceconnect don't race Thursdays and we don't race Tuesdays.

Good move Tudor.  I tried to create a thread on Racedepartment, but it was deleted with a message telling me off
because they don't allow posts from other leagues.  :hang:

Race Department are really up themselves. Trouble I had when I advertised UKGTL there  ::)

Hi Just installed this evening, got US and Europe track packs plus several car packs.

Negatives
1 with offers still seemed expensive £40 to buy cars and tracks and thats just for starters
2 start up game not always working,tries to install directx or wants to go to help page
3 car set up menu seems to be missing items

Positives
1 did not have to set up wheel or pedals, game found them and they work fine
2 cars i downloaded handle well
3 cars and tracks look great
4 easy to join server, found simracinguk and tried Ohio worked fine

would like to see some older tracks and cars.  Just my observations

I've not had any problems with start screens so far, I got dropped from last week's race when it went to the start grid
possibly because I had changed car mid qual, possibly because I sat in the pits, or maybe it was just a bug

It is expensive if you buy everything, seemed reasonable for just the stuff we are using, particularly if you can
take advantage of the sales.
Loads of stuff is missing from setup, no fuel settings, tyre settings are not complete, the game saves your last setup
for that car at that track, but you can't save them out yourself.

Hopefully you will enjoy the racing. I find it the most enjoyable sim for close racing I have every tried, and it's not
finished yet.

There is a single seater F1 style car set coming up. I will probably get it to try it out. If it has enough interest
we could include it in a series in future. I remember GT's F1 series with the mod of GTR2 , and that was
"quirky" but great fun.

Yes I remember that and I'm still getting therapy for it  ;)

I gather there are a few openwheelers planned but not sure what spec/formula will be. Would be good to see something retro and ballsy unlike the current F1 nonsense.

Yes, agreed. GPL is still worth doing even after all these new pretenders to the throne.
A 1967 F1 car set would be most welcome  ;D

Hi Thanks Phspok for reply, have a few days off so will be able to give RR a good try, would like to do on line racing but limited to Wednesday or Thursday nights. Also would like them to add retro cars and tracks. Will RR have 3rd party ad ons like AC/GTL/GTR2 ?   

As RRE revenue comes from selling tracks and cars I cannot see them allowing free third party add-ons but who knows?

We race on Thursday nights.

If Simbin notice that there is a real appetite (revenue stream) from retro, then Retro will be produced. Of that I'm certain. After all they have produced retro packs in the past albeit for Race07. These could I imagine be easily re-packaged as a RRE pack.

GTL Season 16 might have something of interest  ;)

Have these packs
Euro + US Tracks   Touring Class  DTM1992  Group 5  GTR2

Need to know cars track and time you race Thursday Please, thats if i you allow me to take part.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=13216.msg238273#msg238273

For future reference the information is under the Header "Forthcoming" with the ref E1H

Thank you Tony for link        ( GTL Season 16 might have something of interest ) could that be F1lr?

Brands Hatch track is disappointing you only get the Indy circuit.

Yep, we did an event there as we needed a short track, but would be much better if it was the complete circuit
Something to do with them only being able to use tracks that the DTM series uses? something like that

Just bought Touring Classics car pack  :thumbup2:

Me too.  The Radical S9 Pack is on offer also this week, are you considering racing this class in your proposals for a full seasons racing of RRE?  ???

Hope to see y'all on Thursday.  ;D :rockon:

I don't think Matt has any plans for racing modern cars on Thursdays which is fair enough.

I bought the Radical S9 pack because RR has said that it will be implementing multiclass racing in single player mode which I'm looking forward to....and because they are superb fun to drive. TBH I think RR has the best potential of all sims for modern racing but I might be outvoted on that one  ;)

Nothing is cast in stone from my side. I will include any car sets that provide good close racing.
The initial series of 8 events (when I create them all) is for historic cars. Nothing to stop us having
2 series running alternately. One could be the same historic classes, and one could be "something else"
I was originally thinking of RRE/P&G alternate. The more people shout up, the more we will know what is wanted.
AT the moment there seems to be more interest for RRE than P&G so that's the way it's flowing.

I am not keen on creating a Race Room V Asseto Corsa situation. I agree this has good modern cars as well
but sports cars are IMHO well catered for in GTR2 and AC. My "preference" is for series based on older car sets
if it is popular enough, but we could run the Single seaters or Radical or those other little sports cars?

Yes, at the moment..  ;)

It's a fluid, changeable situation though with all the major new sims still in development and with new content and features still to be added to them all.

No question the historic racing is superb in RRE, but right now I still prefer the modern GTs (and Radicals, single seaters etc) in pCARS. AC is great at times too, but I now find myself strangely underwhelmed by most of the modern racing in it, not really sure why.. It could all change round again in future though.

Thanks also purchased the DTM 92 Pack which also cover cars of the age we race in GTL.

Raceroom devs are broadcasting a live stream this evening (from 7pm UK time I think) which hopefully will give us some insight into the current game and work which has been going on behind the scenes to bring improvements/developments.

http://www.twitch.tv/raceroomracingexperience

Of particular interest is the ongoing development of the physics with extensive input from reigning ADAC GT champion Kelvin Van Der Linde (who looks about 12  :o) who I believe will also be taking part. Also some Q&A opportunities via twitter (whatever that is). Got to be worth a look methinks.

Edit: well that's 2hrs 10mins I'll not get back  ::)

Replay here for what it's worth:

http://www.twitch.tv/raceroomracingexperience/v/12088338

Seems like Spa is getting close by the looks of this just released preview  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcuqsNcY7b4

Also there has been news that a Ruf GT3 car is in our futures.

Spa is released this Thursday  :)

https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?threads/spa-francorchamps.2877/#post-31334

hello phspok (or other league chief).

i am not sure, where i should write this letter, as there is no realy R3E racing forum, hope here i am correct.

so my question is...

will there be any races with this racegame after the historic cars series do end?, which i think is already in 24th september?

are already any planning for other series? cars , day of the week?

i am interested in future races in this racegames, i do not so much care about what cars will be drive, only the WTCC (touring cars) i hate a lot and do never ever drive in any racegame (but i did buy it, haha).

servus

Reinhard et al

I am intending to run some more series with R3E. I would like to continue with the historic series
but am open to requests from people. I liked Race07 with it's touring cars, so that type of car
would be possible, but I would prefer to do something different to existing series with other sims.
GT cars are good in AC and GTR2, so I don't want to run with those. Touring cars of any era are
possible. I would be happy to include the Radical or Aquila race cars perhaps?

I have not tried the modern DTM cars, why do you dislike them so much?

Ideally we would continue with the cars we have been running, but with more tracks like Spa, Suzuka
Paul Ricard and Bathhurst if we can get some more drivers that would be great. GT and I have done some
advertising on other forums, and some new members have joined us. I am hoping we can get some more
people with a little more time. I would not want to keep running with single figures for the rest of the year
so am very happy to include some more content.

Thursday is "my" day for the server, so would likely continue something on Thursday evening as we do now.
These R3E series are replacing our P&G series, for the moment at least. This is why I am mostly interested
in historics where possible.

I think Reinhard said he disliked the WTCC cars and didn't mention the modern DTM cars. Personally I don't like the modern DTM but I'm very happy to race any other content. Thanks for your efforts with this Matt  8)

Your doing a superb job Matt, just hope you get more chances to enjoy the fruits of your labours.

Personally I dislike modern cars, they are just to quick for me and I get no joy from driving them and they all look the same to me. The Gr.5 cars are ok but not my favs. I like the Procars and the Classics best.

thanks phspok for answear,

like goldtop write, i only like the WTCC cars totaly not, i can not drive with them somehow,
the modern DTM is ok for me, but not my favourite too.
yes, the modern GT cars are very good in R3E too, but if this is replace for p+g, then historic is better i think, and like you write, in other racegames we use GT cars a lot too.

the historic cars are realy realy great in R3E i think in sound and how cars do handling too, i will for sure drive another series with this old cars (only the group5 is little difficulty for me to drive, but much much fun, but perhaps for close fights little to difficulty for me to drive very close behind other cars, realy 100% concentrate i need).
thursday is ok for me too, i do reserve this day then for R3E.

servus

Easiest thing for me is to simply continue the current format with another 8 races
an alternative would be to combine Touring Classics with DTM92 and replace one of the 4 event types with a different car set
such as Aquila (which seems fairly popular in pick up races) or Radical.

Or I could create a new series - E2H (though I always have trouble with that and usually end up with Tony helping out)  ::)

There is one factor here that is not there in other sims. Cost. Here if I run non free cars or tracks then people have to buy them
ok, so it's not a huge amount of money, but if I run something only once, then people are wasting money. So I am reluctant
to run something different without some moral support  ;D

Opinions on a post card please  ???

Would it be popular if you ran one or two tracks for a series but use a different car make/type for each race?

It would be a great way to really get to know a circuit and see how different each car behaved.

(I'll get me coat)

I like to "try" to match cars with tracks that suit them as I have always done (with mixed success)
Again, personal preference, but I like to have a different track each week, but not so many variations
that people are put off by having to learn an unknown track every event.

There are in theory enough tracks/layouts that there is no need to repeat... but, I am not a fan of
some of the tracks that come with this, and would prefer to repeat the "good" ones.

I will go with the flow, but unless I am pushed differently I will add another 8 events and will include
some of these extra tracks. I would really like to run something at Bathurst, and Suzuka is one of
my fave tracks. Spa perhaps, not sure about Paul RIcard, but that may be a good Gr5 track?

My main question at the moment is: What (if any) other car sets would people like to see?
if none then I will just do more events with the same format.

The Aquila is popular on pickup servers because it is free content but actually is a decent car to race aswell as it isn't that hardcore and has a bit of an old school feel to it. The Radicals are done better imho but are more full on and extra cost so could limit participation. We don't do any proto/sports cars here which is a shame so personally I think the Aquila would be worth including to see how they go down.

As for tracks, the more variation the better for me.... I love Ricard, Spa, Suzuka, Bathurst but it depends on drivers are prepared to buy into them. Would like to see some of the lesser used tracks from the Euro and US track packs too.

I'd like a series just using the Classics e.g. eight race series with a two drive limit for each car. Just saying  ;)  :angel:

I support Tony :rockon:!

You mean 8 races with all the same car choices but limited to 2 drives each?
I like the way that works for your GTL series, nit sure I would want to do that here.
It would be ok for the DTM92 and Touring Classics, but if I added the Gr5 cars it would get frustrating
and I think it would put people off not being able to drive the correct car for that track.

I had a go at Bathurst last night with the Aquila and the free hillclimb beemer. The beemer was a good car
for there as it has plently of grunt without being a nutter car like the Gr5 ones.
I also tried the Touring classics thre, but they felt a bit tame, and lacked the grunt to get up the hills
in a "challenging" style  ;D I will try the Gr5 at Bathurst and see if that's great fun, or masochism  ::)

The Aquila was ok, but didn't really float my boat, perhaps somewhere else it would shine more.

As always, I am looking for minimum admin time, so any spreadsheets that need maintaining etc
are not impossible but I am likely to avoid.

Not a problem Matt. Maybe something to consider for the future. I would do the spreadsheet if you wanted. Would take me about 10 secs.

When RRE first became available two car packs and two track packs were suggested for racing,  packs which I bought ie Classic and DTM 92 cars with the European tracks and the US tracks.  My problem is I've concentrated on a handful of BMWs at Brands and Zolder, tracks I know from GTL, learning both new cars and tracks I find difficult. I intended to race the GTR 32 last night but yesterday morning I was so frustrated I gave the BMW a whirl and found it much easier to drive.

Put a fair amount of time in with the BMW Evo (DTM 92) so I am happy  to use that at preferably tracks we've used in GTL.  If we want to build up a big race grid we need cars that are driveable to lesser drivers.

Hear what your saying Bill. I have bought four car packs myself but I find only two of them really make me want to practice races as I find them easier to control.

But it's early days for this sim and I intend to attend as many events as I can even if they are using car packs I don't really like as I want to support Matt. I know I'll be lapping on my own for most of the race (at the back I mean) but hopefully in time more drivers with varying abilities will join us providing Matt with fat grids and me with some competition.

First, yep, thanks for the support, as is usual, the more turn up the more will turn up
I appreciate people coming out to play even if it's mostly to encourage others.
Last night we managed 10 starters, and all finished? Early on with P&G3.0 we were getting
grids of over 20 people, though that had not and certainly is not now the case.

My task is the same in this, to put on events that are accessible regardless of skill level, but are not boring
to the more talented drivers. Personally I really love the Gr5 cars, I think if that was all there was I would
soon get frustrated with them, so I like to give some variation. A few people have commented on the
difficulty of driving them, even Reinhard who is relatively talented finds them hard work, but, as he says, great fun.
I would like to keep them in. Part of the reason is not masochism, (and I do very much appreciate people turning up
even when it's not their favourite class) but because there are not, in my opinion enough classic cars here that I
can afford to not include them, and still maintain a decent variation over the weeks.

I would like to keep the current format, more or less, but will happily add a car set if it's popular here.
I am quite fancying the Gr5 at Bathurst. This would likely become a race of attrition, but, if you take it easy you
are likely to finish in the points rather than drive over the fences like I usually do  :o  I run the risk of people
being scared off from that... As I said I will give them a whirl and see. If it looks too tough then I will use other cars.
It's a bit like Green Hell, you love the challenge, or you hate never finishing...

Does RR work with triple screen setups? Anyone using it with them?  Been promising myself a setup like that for a couple of years now for more immersion.  :)

Probably not what you wanted to read http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/really-need-better-triple-monitor-support-for-raceroom.99830/

Thanks Tony, though that post ended in April 2015 so things may have been improved since then with all the updates?

No they haven't. Anyway I'm waiting for some good affordable VR goggles to come out and hen mrs goldtop will think I've gone completely mad  :boat:

Lol, me too!

hello people,

is there a way online, to vote to next session?

i do nowhere saw this in past.

and if i understand correct here we do use this not too, only in exaclty time someone must jump in server 19.45 i think it was.

would be good if this vote to next session is possible, or someone with server rights can go to next session.

so is this possible actual in R3E???

servus

I do not know how to do it. I do not think it is possible yet.
This is why I reset the server at 19:45 and then join immediately, and stay on to reset the clock
and keep it running. Or one person joins at 19:45 and stays on.

I have just installed an update to the server, though I am not sure what has changed exactly.

Heads up. New GTR3 cars available now! RUF RT12, Nissan GT-R, Ford GT and the Corvette Z06

And all in plenty of time to get practising for the next round of our GTR3 championship on 22nd November  :jumpjoy:

Black Friday Sale:

ALL RRE content for €49.99 (Limited offer)

30% discount off all single items (cars and tracks)

Live until 30th November.

Black Friday All-In-One deal
 
Get all current RaceRoom Racing Experience content in one packages*. Only 500 redeem codes available! First come, first serve.
 
The Black Friday All-In-One deal will give you 87 car models in 24 car classes ready to race. More than 500 unique car liveries also included! The cars span from historic classics to hillclimb racers to modern touring cars, prototypes and GT cars.
 
The deal also includes 29 highly detailed tracks and hillclimbs spread across the world from the US to Macau and from Germany to Australia. In total you get 65 unique track layouts to race your 500+ unique cars on.
 
This is the perfect gift to anyone ready to step in to the world of RaceRoom, or for you who have already decided that you want it all.
This is a limited one time deal, so get ready.
 
*Contains all RaceRoom Racing Experience game content released until the 26th of November 2015

I can't see anything about this on the store page so I guess they've all gone?

think it's still there:-

http://www.raceroomstore.com/shop_en/raceroom-racing-experience-all-in-one.html

Had another look earlier as they emailed me, found it this time but they've gone. That's saved me 40+ quid :P

They've extended the offer.....gotta love marketing  ::)

http://www.raceroomstore.com/shop_en/raceroom-racing-experience-all-in-one.html

It is however a good deal for those new to the game.

That is very good of them, now £40+ poorer ;)

Details of latest update content (09/12/2015)

http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791433564531/announcements/detail/764847851309173017

Did anyone notice the little NSU TTS folder in their game data ready for release soon. About 60hp of rear engined air cooled madness  :o

It's old so BRING IT ON!

Yeah, that should be fun. I once drove a  regular TT, but it's so long ago, that I don't remember what it was like :- ))

Stig

@ GT: The TTS had more than 60 PS IRL:  http://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/nsu/1000_nsu/tts/1967.html (http://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/nsu/1000_nsu/tts/1967.html)

The GTL mod was always fun or was that rose tinted, I'm not sure I really remember now.. lol.

So: is it worth it or not?  :)

 :yes:

For those who are confused at the cost and not sure what they are getting into I thought I'd do an exercise based on current prices and buying 5000 vrp from the RR store (34.99 Euros) to see what could be done. Remember there are often deals/promotions to be had so it might be worth waiting to take advantage of those.

https://www.raceroomstore.com/shop_en/list_page?cat=24

For what I have planned for weekly Sunday races in 2016 you will need:

American track pack 679
European track Pack 2649
Spa 549
"GTR3" car 299 (some GT3 cars are more/less expensive)

Total Cost for Sundays 4176 vrp

+Daytona Proto 229 (optional for the 6 multiclass races only if you want to drive it)


+Historic Thursdays (not sure what Matt has planned and might mean buying more tracks)

Gr5 car 279
DTM '92 M3 249
Touring classic M3 49 (if you already bought the DTM '92 M3)
Can't quite afford the M1 Procar on this budget , but there is a way to do this  ;)

Grand Total 4753 for racing Sundays and Thursdays

Questions:
1. Is it better than AC?
2. More important: is this going to THE sim to be raced here? Don't want to invest into something that won't be living here.

Not tried free content yet, installing.

1. Very much down to personal preference, opinions vary.
2. Yes it is as long for as we receive enough drivers.

hi TT,

for my personal thinking...

i like R3E more then AC, the racing atmosphere? is more better, i like the grafic and how the tracks like, i do feel more, that i do make a race , then i have in AC, in AC the races to much sterile? .
in AC i never feel good if i drive very close to other cars, as sometimes in AC there happen "dump" accidents what normaly was not a accident, in R3E i feel more save to drive close to other cars.

the setup for car is not so advantaged (not so much things in setup menü) as it is in AC, but i am not expert in setup, so i like to not adjust so much things (where many i do not realy understand), very basic the setup menü in R3E is.
and there are still any missing things in R3E, which comes later,
so you always start with a full tank, or you can not adjust the tyrepressure in setup for example, but since any days now, you can make in pitstop fueldoing too, so longer races are now possible too, with strategy part.

R3E is much bigger then AC in cars and tracks, so the game is more expensive too, if you buy everything,
but in R3E only racecars are, which are more better for online leagues then the many street cars in AC, which are not needed for leagues (for longer life of a league),
there a many great racecategories in R3E and all handles different, like the boring, easy GT3 or the more difficulty group5 cars, where they have NO ABS and TC and driving and brakeing is not easy in this cars, but very much fun.

grafic is for me better too as in AC (i know most people say opposite), the opponent cars looks so realistic and grafic feeling is great too, sound is very good too and for me the FFB feels so great too (G27), i am very happy with this racegame,
sadly there are not much online leagues actual and here we are around 6-11 drives most of the races, but i see, that this racegame start to grow a little online now too,
the server are not so empty as it was 0.5 years ago and in RD for example the "club races" have much drivers too.

sadly this racegame have not so good image from start as for example AC had, i was very happy with AC in beginning, but now not so much anymore, i am do not like the new tyremodel (again, oppsite like many others write) in GT cars, never come the good racing feelin in AC, it is more a much detailed hotlapping simulator for me and for leagues not so good as R3E is.
but R3E is still behind the old racegames in how leagues works, GTR2, rf1, rf2, GSC for example still better for leagues (but old, and rf2 i do not like the exrem much front tyre wear)

this is only how i see this, for me R3E is actual my main racegame, simply because the great feeling in the races.

servus

edit...free content...do not test in raceroom track, this is bad track and do not show the potential of this racegame, do test in algarve.
and you can test in "competition" in portal many great raceseries, like DTM 2015, ADAC GT3, WTCC2014, touring classic and a few other for FREE, including setup doing, here you can as long as you like drive for free many many cars in different good tracks, best this is for someone which do not buy things or test longer the different series.

servus

Good write up Reinhard.  :thumbup1:
There are still things missing from this, on line chat is still only while in car for e.g, setup options are not yet complete, but they seem to be being added gradually.
Since I started the Thursday Historic series there have been several updates fixing bugs, and bringing in new features/content.
Dave Gymer has put in time to create a results entry system so it now fits in well with our normal race series we do on here.  :notworthy:
I intend to keep running R3E for the forseeable future, as I agree very much with Reinhard and I believe this is growing thing.

For the Thursday "Historic" series so far people will need:

DTM92 car pack, or just buy one of the cars in it if you prefer.
Touring Classics car pack, or any one car.
Group 5 car pack, or any one car
BMW M1 Procar, not sure if you can buy an individual skin or not.
Hillclimb cars (free)

Euro Track pack
American Track Pack
Suzuka
Spa
Salzburgring
Bathurst
(Maybe - Paul Ricard, as some already have it.)

These things tend to grow over time, so other tracks, and maybe cars might be added later.

I'm sorry but have you been waiting for 'the next big thing' TT, which is why we havent seen you around? When you could have been driving any number of different sims we've run. :(

They all have there crowd of drivers, there will never be a singular sim as they all cater for different needs. You need to try them and decide which one you want to drive! People need ot accpt we are nver going to get to grids 20+ 'like old days' as we now have so many other things to do, plus quite a number have been and gone as life has changed. If your still interested TT please drive something!

Personally RRRRRRE is a fun drive, enjoyable (when it works) not a complete sim, with limited setup options and no obvious tyre modelling/ moitoring, the interface design means you dont really get to interact with others. But it does have alot of content, is still being updated, though having read an interview with the devs seems to have rather too many ideas to probably see the light of day anytime soon, but there is potential here.

All the sims nowadays are being constantly worked on, with regular updates so you have to put up with changes going on, like the last big AC update changed to tyre handling so sadly you need to put up with things constantly changing ala iR.

But its also something being run here, and now matter how much i try looking around, i still want to race here where i can race with people i know and have raced against in the past, and with new people, with the same ideology.

sorry rant over, normal service....

Hey Spanner, nothing like that. I'm in a process of recovering and feel the need for some speed, so...  ;)

Don't know if I'll be that interested as I was in GTR2, but we'll  see. It's just that AC is not the thing I was waiting for. Thanks all for clearing things, need to try some laps.

Glad your on the road to recovery TT  :) good to see you back in the racing frame of mind.

Personally I think RR sucks next to AC, whereas others love it, but each to his own  ;) all you can do is Try it for yourself and make up your own mind.

Oh ok, sorry. The lst thing i remember you posting was that you wernt sure what to do 'next' and was waiting to see what took off.

Just bought Spa, both US and Euro track packs plus DP pack for around 2500points last night so the content is usually discounted to some extent.

Just wish they didnt use the vrp currency to lose the monetary value of what your actually spending, because i want to know what i'm spending! showing the cost in euros doesnt help!

You can change currency to GBP

And you can purchase via your steam wallet but usually that means less value for your money (steam's cut) and there are minimum transactions (IIRC). Steam does have sales though (as does RR) and these can be a great way of picking up content.

I like the VRP method as it's easy to calculate back to Euro/GBP. I think it's quite fun to think of it as a racing budget as you would have in real life except our hobby is in £s instead of £100,000s per season :)

I am not a rich man, but I can't be bothered worrying about something I very much want costing me a fiver or so.
I just do it. Maybe that's why I will never be rich  ::)

I'm currently in league in Project Cars, but the bugs / issues / apparent lack of development / support has encouraged me to look at alternatives.
I have AC as well, and when it was first released, it felt really good, I concentrated on pCars, so didn't follow the developments on AC, but I don't enjoy it anywhere near as much as even buggy pCars.

So, I had a re-visit of RRE (I tried it when it was first available, and the core felt good, if lacking content / etc.
The 'Pay for DLC' concept put me off, thinking the prices would be close to iRacing (not the case), and it dropped off my radar.

Installed it again, and tried the free content - and it just felt .....Right!
Perhaps a bit of a Simbin fanboy (not really, but did love GTR1/2), and I think the physics are of GTR2 quality.
Easy to drive, but hard to master, and will punish mistakes.
So I looked at purchasing some content, and this is my biggest issue with RRE just now, but in a good way!
I just can't stop buying content!!!
Most of the GT3 cars are about £0.55 just now (75% off)
I picked up the ADAC 2014 GT3 pack > Auro track pack > US track pack > 2 cars > Spa, and I don't even recall the total, as each addition was not making a huge difference to the total. (It would be in the region of £38.00 I guess). (Gutted I looked into this after that black friday deal :((( ).

Now this is with me not having money to burn, and I'm still not even sure that I'm going to ditch pCars, and yet I purchased this content (have since bought 2 DTM packs, and another couple of cars...).

The only thing that I needed, was a league to join......Taa daa!!!! Hi !!! (Would love the guys to use the TeamSpeak more and make it more of a social thing, but each to their own I guess :( ).


All this could be "The grass is always greener / Honeymoon period / Rose tinted glasses / etc" but I can only see RRE growing stronger and stronger as more people join in. And I am bringing quite a few pCars drivers over, which seem to be loving it too. (They have some servers, and may build their own league, but the setup of the GT3 racing on this league is almost perfect for me, so I would encourage them to join here!).


From what I understand, Simbin's GTR3 isn't 100% dead (even though Simbin died off, and half moved to RRE's Sector 3). but I don't hold much hope for GTR3 in the near future (if at all!).

pCars2 ? They have not done a good job with pCars1, and are witholding content / features, to make pCars2 more desirable, when they should have been put into pCars1...) and the patches have been causing real issues with Multiplayer... > If they fix it, I think it has potential to be a top contender for the best Driving Sim, but I've lost a lot of faith :(

iRacing ? Just can't justify the price, simple as that.

Wow! Have you been stealing my life story AndrexUK?!  ;D I feel pretty much exactly the same as you. I have most of the widely used sims (and suck at them all!) but pCARS has so far been my favourite, despite the abysmal MP situation. I tried out R3E just after I started sim racing back in May (yes I'm a total newb) but didn't really get on with it, though I think that said more about my abilities as a driver than the game to be fair. I tried it again recently and found the experience was a complete transformation and I was lucky enough to fall into the Black Friday deal so I have all the content going and for not much money compared to what some people have spent. It has to be said though, that the business model does make this an expensive game in the grand scheme of things.
I am not a quick driver and invariably finish last or close to it, but bit by bit my skills are growing. As for MP the lobbies with free content are a bit of a disaster, but once in the paid for content lobbies, things improve quite a lot.
I really like the look of the Historics series starting Jan 7th as these are the cars that I grew up with (Yes, I'm a newb but I'm also an old fart!) so I am hoping to take part and not get in the way of too many people!

Welcome Pete, There are plenty of old farts on here.... and there is a wide range of driver skill levels
We have a few aliens  :alien: some mid fielders, and a few who tend to be towards the rear, so you should fit
it whatever your pace.

I have so far only posted the 1st race in Historic Series 3, but there will be a lot more. Traditionally
my historic series (Power and Glory for the last few years) start in January, and end In December
this year I might break it up into 2 or more shorter series, or, the ones who start in January have an advantage
in the championship points by virtue of having done more events, and I am hoping that these series - my Thursday
Historics, and Tudor's GT3(ish) series on Sundays will continue to grow throughout the year. As always with these
things, the more who come, the more will come, so anyone's attendance is much appreciated, as that encourages others
to come out to play with us as well  ;D

Holiday time at the moment, and I will be away for the next few days, but I will post a few more events before next Thursday

Hey thanks phspok, that is quite reassuring to know.
I think I just need to put in LOTS of practice and I will get there. I will confess I am very nervous about Macau though, as it has always been a problem track for me and I don't want to be a mobile chicane!  ;D
I like the idea of splitting into two (or more) series, the reasoning you give makes very good sense to me.
Enjoy the holidays and I'll look forward to seeing a few more events when you have time.
Cheers!

Looks like nords is getting closer and already looking very good.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqyaXUh-3Q

Any chance of assurances it wont be used here :'(

Well GT3 or DTM92 could be a lot of fun with big grids but yeah I hear what you're saying.

I will definately be using it for at least one event this year. Maybe two over the year.
SOme love it, some hate it, but there are so few (relative to GTR2/GTL) tracks in this I am incined to use any that I think will work
with the cars.

Always hated this track, ruins multiplayer as you see noone anywhere and I usually quit.  :-\

Well at my pace I often don't see anyone either at any track  ::)

Nords is something that I wouldn't use often, it is to me a special case, a sort of an endurance test
which I enjoy occasionally. Macau is a similar sort of thing, it is "unusual" and has a different challenge
than the normal wide loads of room, plenty of run off sort of track.

New historic content coming:  :thumbup1:

https://www.facebook.com/raceroom/posts/1120212804664002

A bit modern perhaps to be historics, but looks good, I said earlier that if the Audi got some friends we would probably include them
Oh heck, now I have to shoehorn in 5 classes..... I'm sure we will cope  ;D

I think these cars ran in the 1980s so not that new.

Still in 50's and 60's mode...  ::) 80's is fine. I am pretty sure I will be including them somehow
It's not set in stone, but I sort of like to have 4 series running. In this so far I have only been running one
series with 4 car groups, the good thing (for me) in that is that people tend to come for all 4 car groups
when they might be more selective and only come for the one they particularly like.
SO I am reluctant to run different series these days. I may try something like alternate between DTM92 and
Touring Classics, or I could run 5 car groups, which means you have to wait longer for you fave group
to come around again. ANy thoughts?

Just did a bit of research on the IMSA GTO cars. The Mustang appears to be from 1985, the Nissan from 1988 & the Audi from 1989 (the only year Audi competed in IMSA GTO).