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A short hop over the North Sea sees the 1967 motors arrive at Snetterton in Norfolk for round five of the Privateers Trophy. Phil Thornton leads the championship and is looking for a hat-trick of wins to consolidate his position at the top of the table.

Race list	iGOR
Server	UKGPL_T7_2
IP address	62.149.202.168
Date	16-09-2012
Race time	Race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying time	Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track	Snetterton (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=7173&st=0&p=65855&#entry65855)
Mod	67
Damage model	INT
Race length	35 laps
Replay	Available here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season23/Grads_Privs/S23_Grads_Privs_R05_2012_09_16_Snetterton.rar)

Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes, to allow full timers to join.

The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of turn 4, the Hairpin. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=361&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

T7 server set to 35 laps Long race.
Ciao

Oh I really HATE Snetterton...

Eek! That's tonight!

But it's the same time as the new Downton Abbey...

Cant d/load track. wtf is a .rar file?

It's just a type of zipped file. Anything like Winzip, ZipGenius, WinRAR, 7Zip etc should be able to unpack it.

Type of Zip file Nigel - you can find the executable installer here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Tracks/Snetterton)

Ok, didnt realize Winzip was one of the things I lost in the last meltdown, time is now against me for tonight, but still trying.

See above mate

Hi guys , good luck. Sorry but im going to miss this one too. Been in bed for a couple of days with fever and a bad cold. Ill be back for next . Realy need to race some soon  :( 

Well, managed to blow my engine even though I'd spent some laps being kinder to it. Oh well.

Disaster race...wrong fuel load, forgot to pit and wrecked out
WD podium :)

That was a tough race.  Couldn't match Axel's blistering pace in qually but happy with a front row slot.  Apart from Axel, the qually times were very similar so the race was going to be close.

Got a good start and inherited the lead when Axel got crossed up on the line.  Wasn't sure if it was his Brab in my mirrors down the hangar straight but when a chat message said he'd disconnected I realized he was out.  Bad luck Axel.  I assumed the Brab behind me was David Rainier so I tried to build a cushion but after 3 or 4 laps I went wide at T1 and dropped down to about 7th place.  From then on I had to fight hard to get back to the front.  It wasn't easy, everyone was very quick.  I didn't make a single contested pass, I managed to make up the places because people made mistakes or crashed.  On a couple of occasions I was lucky not to get caught up in the carnage.  Eventually I worked my way back up to second place but by then David was 14 seconds up the road.  I tried my hardest to catch up but the gap was too big.  I needed David to make a mistake to give me any chance.  It isn't easy leading a race for a long time (well I find it hard to maintain concentration) so I thought I might have a chance.  In the end David withstood the pressure and held on to take the win, well done :).

No Phil, it was not my Brab ...because I drove the Cooper here :) it surely was Fabio Locarno's car behind you during the 1st lap.



After Silverstone, this is my second win and again in England, nice country for me ;)

I was 3rd on the grid, Axel did a great lap sub 1'26, and Phil was 2nd.
At the start, I was cautious and Fabio Locarno overtook me.
Unfortunately, Axel spun after turn 2. Later Fabio and Phil made some mistakes and I became 1st with a very small gap with Geoff Heard.
When Geoff disappeared, the race was more quiet for me ...until I joined some backmarkers ! Francesco Molteni was not very helpful and I had to take some risks to overlap him (2 times because I spun after the first overlap) and the gap with Phil from 12-13 seconds became 2-3 seconds !
Finally I won with 4,5 seconds before Phil.

Grats to all finishers (only 5 for 17 starters) !
  

Enjoyed that. Best 67 drive by miles. Took the Lotus and it was pretty well sorted. Running at 1:29 (well 1:28.96 - four times!). Very cautious at the start put me dead last but I felt I could make progress and so I did. I was steady and didn't make a mistake until lap 22. Then Fran chased me into a mistake and I missed my braking point fractionally. I had enjoyed a battle with him for a few laps, which was a new experience. Dave caught us and I hoped that he would tow me back up to Fran (who was quicker) but I was slow letting Dave through and that put Hendy back on my tail. We had a few close laps and then a bit of a tangle at the hairpin. No big drama though - not sure whose fault - RI I think until I look at the replay, I may have turned in on him, If so, sorry mate.

I was enjoying that but then the famous Lotus fragility got me. I hadn't been harsh on the car but it still went bang. Coasted over the line to complete lap 26 as Hendy roared by to take the place. Ah well. Still very happy with the drive though.

What a bizzare race.
Had very little opportunity to practice, but learned the track for a mid-season F2 race. Biggest problem was that I could not find any reference point to brake at the end of the Home Straight (after hairpin) every lap was a guess & I either braked too early or needed the assistance of the banking to stop. If I could work that out then a 1.27 lap would have been possible.
When the Race started NO GREEN BUTTON - the whole field moved off leaving me to press random buttons - then suddenly I'm in the pit lane, half a lap down. The track having been my worst enemy started to become my best friend as it wiped out the opposition car by car. From 17th to 5th - by survival. If had a few spins - several at the end of the Home straight - but nothing that damaged the car or needed a shift R.
Congrats to team mates David (Rainier) for first place & Dave C - as far as I could work out you should have had 3rd spot until the last lap. Also to Phil & Andreas - fellow survivors of Snetteron - & they did it in rather more style than me.

:o that means you used even less tokens  ::)

It is pretty tight in the championship after this race.  Although I'm still leading by 2 points, you have a better set of results which will make a difference at the end of the season when we have to drop our two worst scores.  There are at least 7 or 8 drivers capable of winning races and taking podiums so your consistent scoring will make a difference later on when wins and podiums might be harder to get.

Contrary to what I believed,  not been here in the 67F1s until now - which means I'm particularly grateful to the F2 fun sessions earlier in the year; which was the reason the track was downloaded in the first place!

As per usual;  with that hairpin  - looked very much like Mosport to me ;)



Yeah - same here;  although it was the famous Honda fragility that did for that potential 3rd place ;)
Oh, ok - so maybe it was me then!   After the 1st engine popped & I stopped just in time to get the spare car out for the last lap - which then blew in sympathy 1/2 a lap later.  Luckily doesn't look as if that affected the final result anyway.  Still - would have been good to have seen the chequered flag.


Once most of the field had dropped out, it was fairly lonesome running out there.  Admittedly all places gained were just inherited.  Still,  highlight of the time out there is getting over the line on the 10th lap in 2nd place!  But that was never going to last long &  Phil was soon past & off up the road like a scalded cat.

Then it seemed like a fairly solid 3rd may well be on the cards,  as long as long as I could take it easy & Andreas a little way behind did the same.  However he always seemed to be there somewhere.  For a while,  I wouldn't say that I was edging ahead - maybe that he was edging further behind;  but he was still looming there!

In the end I guess I still managed to overcook that Honda so subsequently the place was gone.  I'd say lucky to get out with a potential 4th in the end.

Congrats podium (nice haul of points there David!)  & also congrats to Mr Nobrakes in leading the 'positions gained' table!

Cheers,
Dave.

Oh yes;  & since I was last here in the F2 funsters - it seems someone has moved all the braking points around!
Also seems to be more run off areas now :)

Some comeback that turned out to be, and on my Birthday as well...(UK time that is). It's good to be back, I must say.
Anyway, qually was average, set my fastest lap on lap 7 and was unable to improve on it throughout the remainder of qualifying. Was holding 2nd at one point but others came from behind and picked me off, leaving me a battered and bruised (not really) 6th.
Got a good, safe start in the race cruising round in about my grid slot and waiting for the Brab to acquire some useful heat in the tyres. Drivers up ahead started dropping out, first Axel...didn't have a clue what happened to him, then Fabio spun at T1 and on a following lap Phil emulated that feat. Next I find I'm in 2nd with Dave Rainier holding point. I seemed to be able to reel Dave in a little at a time each lap, without any heroics....just hitting apexes and braking markers on cue. The car was handling quite sweetly, until it got a little squirrely on the brakes into the hairpin...stepping left, putting a wheel on the grass and sending me around.....and around. Lodged the car IN the haybales on the inside of the hairpin, sticking it fast.

And I just remembered that we have one (1) reset.....DOH!. Instead I hit ESC....Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!  ::)   :wetfish:
See, told ya I was out of practice!
Congrats on a fine win David, catching you was sort of easy, I think getting by you would have been another story altogether!. Also to the other podium and race finishers.
Geoff..

Am I in 9th then? ;)

Looks like I owe a big sorry to Axel for ruining your race lap 1 hairpin  :-[

I've been blighted by a poor connection lately, and didn't expect to survive the entire race.  This meant a poor grid spot was no great disappointment, but being sat rearward did create a bigger calamity alert. :shifty:

The race start was a tight run affair - the skill level in Privateers continues to climb.  It wasn't until the hairpin that calamity broke loose, under braking.  A car had stopped on the inside apex, so I went and collected a haybale with my nose, and slewed to a stop.  This selfless action, created a partial barrier to the cars behind, to warn them, to use the outside lane. :angel:  Umm . . .  or something like that!

Recovering last, I decided to act as road sweeper, and pick up any scattered debris that might be lying around.  This worked well, and I was able to collect 2 separate amounts with wheels still attached!  Making for the pits, to dispose of the excess bodywork.

With my race virtually run, I managed a scrap with Billy, who is getting much too fast nowadays.  Then managed to get seriously in Fabio's way, as my balding tyres reached meltdown, and called it a day . . . amongst other things!  :(  

Yes, this was a weird evening...

After lots of CanAm testing the last 2 days (wich was a big fun!) and after making a Braby setup,
I was a little tired in the afternoon and wanted to make a little nap...

Somehow I awoke and looked at the clock :o  :o it was just in time to join the server for the quali...
But my circulation and eyes were still in sleeping mode...

Somehow I managed to do a good lap and was surprised to have done a PB.

The race start I messed up, as my car spun a little to the left  and I hope to have not made a bad rejoin ::)

Following the leading pack in about 5th place I carefully braked for the hairpin and took the inner line to avoid any carnage...
But Bernie spun in front and just touched my car, what made me spin too.
(np Bernie, such things happen with these beasts on cold tyres!)

I hit the ESC button to not cause more carnage.

TBH I am able to do some hot laps with the 67s, but I am far away from doing it save for a whole race...
I have the feeling its way more difficult  to do close racing with them than with any other mod.

The annoying thing is I had tried the thing with full race fuel and did a brake test into that hairpin to check it out , but comes the race maybe my speed was a little higher with the tow from the guys in front, what ever it got away from me and I spun to a standstill probably causing a road block for the rest of you guys  :o

In the end I got disco'd on lap 5 , not the only disco I see wonder if there was a server problem ? although my own connection went pants the red bars were dancing around like craazy here  :-\
Maya culpa , no doubt the mods will sort things out  ::)

Personally, I think it was an oil leak Bernie.  I certainly wouldn't have spun, but for that. :P

Used the oil leak scenario before , might just fall on deaf ears this time  :-\

 Sure I saw someone in front toss a banana skin away though  ;D

Naughty!  ;D but definitely Youa Culpa but luckily penalties aren't Latin.

Excluding the incident with Gebhart when i was in third position, my problem is always the engine.
2 engine per race is the standard.

Francesco - I think some day you can win by a metre, if you do not loose by the foot. :(

To blow that many engines you must be speed shifting.  You need to lift off the throttle when you change gear or you will blow the engine.

No problem with your rear-view mirror ???

Il retrovisore, non e solo per decorare !   :laugh:

Hi Cookie

I really do not understand you attitude during mod67 races.
More than often, you are the quicker during the qually but then, unfortunately more than often , you made some mistakes and you give up without using shift-R.
Maybe, you would make quick improvements if you stay longer racing with us, even if this is not for win.

And yes, mod67 is the most difficult mod and there are not so many drivers able to drive 35 laps or more without mistakes.( yestersday, I am sure ALL drivers spun one or several times somewhere in the track)

Thought I had better get some practice in for Riverside in the unfamiliar garb of the Ferrari (I have a plan)... Was quite pleased with my 1:49.98... until I looked at GPLRank. Arrggghhh. I have to find 3 seconds (at least) AND consistency....

***UPDATE***
Well, I've found 1.75 secs so only 5/4 to go but as for the consistency - average over 12 laps of 1:53 - three spins but otherwise steady sub 1:50... I could be threatening 18th here  ;D

Mi dispiace amico mio.

Moderation published.

Thanks David :)

Yeah,
thanks for your work David.  :thumbup1:

Yes I know, but with battle in the race I forgot this.

No problem Andreas ,i have seen that you have lost the control of the car.In the past I was penalized for much less than this incident,this year i'm confident to have better judges.

Ciao Francesco,

I am glad that you see it this way. The last thing I want to do is to kick someone off.

BTW, to all: Do I miss something about the race in Riverside?

So long
Andreas

Looking at the replay, I am not sure Andreas loose control. I think it was a crashbox problem and looks like Andreas rear left wheel was touched by Francesco front right wheel even if visually there was no contact.
Not easy to moderate such ioncident



Yes, Andreas there is a race in Riverside tomorrow. e