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Title: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 13, 2012, 12:49:52 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 20

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (40 laps)

Track: Crystal Palace GP Circuit Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_crystalpalace)

Cars allowed: Fiat Abarth, Austin Mini Cooper from here The Real GTL mod 1.0:
http://downloads.gamers-crib.com/Sim%20Racing/GTL/Mods/RealMod/RealMod10.exe or here http://www.gamefront.com/files/23767475/RealMod13update.exe

and update (to ver 1.3): http://downloads.gamers-crib.com/Sim%20Racing/GTL/Mods/RealMod/RealMod13update.exe or here http://www.gamefront.com/files/21168219/RealMod13update_exe

It's best if you create a standalone GTL install (copy your GTL to a temp folder, rename it e.g. REAL GTL, then copy back to your usual directory. Path the install to the new REAL GTL you have just created).  Install ver 1.0 first then update with the ver 1.3 install. Run the sim and purchase the cars.
We will not be able to use any skin packs with this mod.

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk BSCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=377&theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 09, 2013, 07:42:41 PM +0100
Tony which version of the Mini Cooper S is eligible for this race please?  ???  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 09, 2013, 08:29:42 PM +0100
Tony which version of the Mini Cooper S is eligible for this race please?  ???  ::)
The lower powered one. The one in the same class as the Abarth.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 09, 2013, 08:47:07 PM +0100
Tony which version of the Mini Cooper S is eligible for this race please?  ???  ::)
The lower powered one. The one in the same class as the Abarth.

Thanks Tony. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 11, 2013, 07:25:11 PM +0100
GTL is now running of our new server. Many thanks to Picnic for giving up his free time to sort out some huge problems.

Just join as normal.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: goldtop on October 11, 2013, 07:33:07 PM +0100
Wow. Sounds like there's lots of hard work been going on behind the scenes here. Many thanks to all concerned  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: roguk on October 12, 2013, 11:14:12 PM +0100
Hi Tony have the Real TC65 mod installed but not the 1.3 update gamefront says file deleted and gamers crib page not available any help please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 13, 2013, 12:23:05 AM +0100
Hi Tony have the Real TC65 mod installed but not the 1.3 update gamefront says file deleted and gamers crib page not available any help please.

Hmm odd. Gamers Crib download worked for me?

Here's a new Gamefront link http://www.gamefront.com/files/23767475/RealMod13update.exe


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: roguk on October 13, 2013, 02:20:02 PM +0100
Thank You


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 14, 2013, 12:21:11 PM +0100
GTL is now running of our new server. Many thanks to Picnic for giving up his free time to sort out some huge problems.

Just join as normal.

Thanks Picnic for your sterling work. ;D Tony is this new server faster than the previous one, only it appears to load quicker and frame rate in Sim seems higher?  ::)

Also do you, or any GTL.PRL expert, know the code figures to program the starter from Starter "1,19" to make the S key do this function?  ??? I have a problem with loss on wheel start button function and can't reprogram it.  :taz: (A lack of ability to change any wheel function  with that ***** Win 8 operation system, I  was conned  :2guns: into having installed on my PC.) So simply re-programing is not possible.  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 14, 2013, 12:44:08 PM +0100
I'm afraid I don't know the new servers specs Bill, but by "new box" I would expect it to be a little faster.

I'm afraid I don't understand your query re: Starter?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 14, 2013, 01:22:32 PM +0100
I'm afraid I don't know the new servers specs Bill, but by "new box" I would expect it to be a little faster.

I'm afraid I don't understand your query re: Starter?

Thanks Tony.  I had a button on wheel programmed to start engine if it "died" after hitting scenery.  Following large Win 8 update button no longer starts engine, so reverted to auto clutch whilst looking at PWR edit to give long term solution.  It'll mean reading up and trial and error, unless someone in SROU can help.

Spent hours yesterday making different installations including going back to GTLDK and new GTL Disc installations from scratch. Neither are fully compatible with Win 8, it's too late in life to contemplate to delete and reinstall Win 7!!



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 14, 2013, 01:55:41 PM +0100
I'm sure that you could partition your hard drive and have a dual bootable system e.g. Windows 8 and Windows 7 but selectable at boot up. I didn't know that GTL had a starter button


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Quicksilver384 on October 14, 2013, 06:23:27 PM +0100
The problem with duel booting with a menu is that I believe you need to install old before new. otherwise you have to hit F12 or which ever key it is on your computer to manually choose a HDD to boot from. another option though is to install Windows 7 on another partition then install a Linux OS then use the GRUB bootloader (part of the Linux OS) to create a boot menu.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Quicksilver384 on October 14, 2013, 06:27:55 PM +0100
GTL is now running of our new server. Many thanks to Picnic for giving up his free time to sort out some huge problems.

Just join as normal.

Thanks Picnic for your sterling work. ;D Tony is this new server faster than the previous one, only it appears to load quicker and frame rate in Sim seems higher?  ::)

Also do you, or any GTL.PRL expert, know the code figures to program the starter from Starter "1,19" to make the S key do this function?  ??? I have a problem with loss on wheel start button function and can't reprogram it.  :taz: (A lack of ability to change any wheel function  with that ***** Win 8 operation system, I  was conned  :2guns: into having installed on my PC.) So simply re-programing is not possible.  :'(

The starter button configured to S is

Control - Starter="(0, 31)"


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 14, 2013, 06:27:59 PM +0100
I'm sure a quick search of google will find results  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 14, 2013, 07:41:54 PM +0100
GTL is now running of our new server. Many thanks to Picnic for giving up his free time to sort out some huge problems.

Just join as normal.

Thanks Picnic for your sterling work. ;D Tony is this new server faster than the previous one, only it appears to load quicker and frame rate in Sim seems higher?  ::)

Also do you, or any GTL.PRL expert, know the code figures to program the starter from Starter "1,19" to make the S key do this function?  ??? I have a problem with loss on wheel start button function and can't reprogram it.  :taz: (A lack of ability to change any wheel function  with that ***** Win 8 operation system, I  was conned  :2guns: into having installed on my PC.) So simply re-programing is not possible.  :'(

The starter button configured to S is

Control - Starter="(0, 31)"


Thanks Quicksilver384 will have a quick look at that.  Tony have a slow old drive with XP on it, could have a look at that when I have time but it did cause problems with emails I seem to recall.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Quicksilver384 on October 14, 2013, 09:17:58 PM +0100
got fed up with comming off all the time i think its just tiredness and lack of concentration so i quit. see you next time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: goldtop on October 14, 2013, 09:32:11 PM +0100
Hmmm...thought I might struggle tonight and couldn't get together in quali at all. Flung a load of camber on before going to grid and hoped for the best in race, which seemed to work out well. As Matt Neale apparently once said, I'll take luck over talent every time  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 14, 2013, 09:34:10 PM +0100
Hmmm...thought I might struggle tonight and couldn't get together in quali at all. Flung a load of camber on before going to grid and hoped for the best in race, which seemed to work out well. As Matt Neale apparently once said, I'll take luck over talent every time  :laugh:
Hmm you did struggle...............you only lapped me twice


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 14, 2013, 09:46:37 PM +0100
Results posted but the replay file looks too small to be valid.

EDIT: Replay file now replaced with the one off my PC.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: goldtop on October 14, 2013, 10:07:43 PM +0100
Hmmm...thought I might struggle tonight and couldn't get together in quali at all. Flung a load of camber on before going to grid and hoped for the best in race, which seemed to work out well. As Matt Neale apparently once said, I'll take luck over talent every time  :laugh:
Hmm you did struggle...............you only lapped me twice

Didn't mean to sound flippant there Tony. I was comparing to Mr. Quick's quali times as he was around 0.5 secs quicker and I couldn't work out how I was losing time. Was sure I'd be off pace in race, so in desperation I whacked up the camber front and back, hardened the springs and arbs slightly and went to grid untested. Usually a recipe for disaster, but luckily it worked and the car felt much improved.

Had a good start, made no mistakes and ended up being a much better night than expected .


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: roguk on October 15, 2013, 10:49:15 AM +0100
Had a nice drive in the Fiat very lonely apart from when lapped by the fast guys, had probs getting on server it kept repeatedly loading the other drivers, stuck in a loop. Found the prob i had installed a prog called GTL car tools so i could praccy with just the 911, put prog back to originals in preset and everything was fine.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 15, 2013, 12:45:30 PM +0100
That's the problem when there's so few of us, lapping can become quite lonely.

My race started with loads of misshaps and off track excursions so soon found myself at the back. Highlight of my race was the epic battle trying to get past Bill who was driving like a man possessed.

My first serious pass attempt ended badly as I clipped Bill and we both skidded off the track. After that I just had to be patient and finally passed with a sneaky up the inside job at the last corner. Rest of my night was just keeping it on the tarmac. Never had a chance of catching Roger who was about 30 secs up the road. Still very enjoyable tho.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 16, 2013, 11:41:40 AM +0100
That's the problem when there's so few of us, lapping can become quite lonely.

My race started with loads of misshaps and off track excursions so soon found myself at the back. Highlight of my race was the epic battle trying to get past Bill who was driving like a man possessed.

My first serious pass attempt ended badly as I clipped Bill and we both skidded off the track. After that I just had to be patient and finally passed with a sneaky up the inside job at the last corner. Rest of my night was just keeping it on the tarmac. Never had a chance of catching Roger who was about 30 secs up the road. Still very enjoyable tho.

Thanks Tony, yes it was very enjoyable.  I don’t mind finishing last if I’ve had a good few laps racing other drivers, including chasing them trying to get on terms again.  My personal high light was finding the gap between you and Kurt on lap 1 and building up a few seconds lead before you both got back up to speed and staying ahead for the first 7 or 8 laps whilst you battled over last place.  Finally I overcooked it into that first sharp right hander and ran wide the left hand wheels dug into the gravel and turned me into the retaining wall (?) and I had to change into 1st and slow down to drive back onto the track allowing both you and Kurt through.

Then luckily for me you had your “misshaps and off track excursions” allowing our epic battle.  I think there were number reasons for my driving; I’ve spent many hours racing Minis – Poacher Pete’s league ran a number of Mini Series over the years before he stopped hosting GTL racing.  Also spent times experimenting with my setup as listed in my Monza (1976-93) postings; and been trying to go deeper into corners before I turn in to avoid going off on the exit at an angle wrecking front end instead of kissing or running along the Armco.  This is what gave Tony the chance to dive down the inside with my wider approach and early braking.

Looking forward to the next race in this Series.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Crystal Palace - Oct 14
Post by: BillThomas on October 16, 2013, 08:56:01 PM +0100
Strange, loss of start button on steering wheel appears to be a REAL GTL issue - works OK on Empoli, both on and offline but neither on or offline here. ??? ::)