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Title: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 13, 2012, 12:52:32 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (22 laps)

Track: Early Brands Hatch GP Circuit Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_earlybrands)

Cars allowed: Ford Mustang, Lotus Cortina, Austin Mini Cooper, Fiat Abarth from here The Real GTL mod 1.0:
http://downloads.gamers-crib.com/Sim%20Racing/GTL/Mods/RealMod/RealMod10.exe or here http://www.gamefront.com/files/21168781/RealMod10_exe

and update (to ver 1.3): http://downloads.gamers-crib.com/Sim%20Racing/GTL/Mods/RealMod/RealMod13update.exe or here http://www.gamefront.com/files/21168219/RealMod13update_exe

It's best if you create a standalone GTL install (copy your GTL to a temp folder, rename it e.g. REAL GTL, then copy back to your usual directory. Path the install to the new REAL GTL you have just created).  Install ver 1.0 first then update with the ver 1.3 install. Run the sim and purchase the cars.
We will not be able to use any skin packs with this mod.

Time of Day Setting: 15:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk BSCC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=377&theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BadBlood on November 15, 2012, 12:10:47 PM +0000
Excuse my ignorance but what is the difference to 'vanilla' GTL?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 15, 2012, 01:00:30 PM +0000
Excuse my ignorance but what is the difference to 'vanilla' GTL?

The Real GTL mod is a set of standard TC-65 cars that have had some subtle physics, handling and performance tweaks to make them more competitive with one another. They were principally created for racing in a Nogrip league, but were made available to the wider sim-racing community.
You can not combine standard GTL and Real GTL cars as this causes system instability.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BadBlood on November 15, 2012, 01:20:10 PM +0000
Thanks. Hope to give it a go, family commitments notwithstanding...

**EDIT I thought this was NOW - can't believe you post a year ahead... wow.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BadBlood on November 18, 2012, 08:08:19 PM +0000
AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH - Can't get the track - grrr.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BadBlood on November 18, 2012, 08:44:08 PM +0000
Found a copy of Early Brands at No Grip but when I try to run practice with a Mini get CTD. Any ideas?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 19, 2012, 01:05:53 AM +0000
Does the track crash with any other cars?

BTW the download link will be updated soon.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BadBlood on November 19, 2012, 10:31:21 AM +0000
I think I'll wait for the updated link Tony. No hurry as we have 364 days ;)

I was a bit confused when I went into the lobby last night and I couldn't find the race... :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: SpecialKS on November 19, 2012, 11:43:58 AM +0000
 ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 19, 2012, 04:12:41 PM +0000
Download link now updated


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 14, 2013, 10:58:57 PM +0100
Might be nice if drivers choose a different car to the one they took in Round 1. Not a rule, just a suggestion.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BillThomas on November 13, 2013, 12:23:57 PM +0000
Been on line this morning - I couldn't see the REAL Falcon  ::) ???  Is it me or a prob?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 13, 2013, 12:45:01 PM +0000
Been on line this morning - I couldn't see the REAL Falcon  ::) ???  Is it me or a prob?

It's you Bill Thomas. The Falcon isn't included in this event.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BillThomas on November 13, 2013, 01:37:55 PM +0000
Been on line this morning - I couldn't see the REAL Falcon  ::) ???  Is it me or a prob?

It's you Bill Thomas. The Falcon isn't included in this event.

Thanks Tony, missed that it is only "selection" of REAL GTL cars. ;D

Win 8 took dislike to REAL GTL, had to put it in its' place.  :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Burtoner on November 17, 2013, 11:05:11 PM +0000
erm this still on?, thread is a year old :O


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 12:15:59 AM +0000
erm this still on?, thread is a year old :O
Sure is. Don't you see it under forthcoming events?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Burtoner on November 18, 2013, 12:48:24 AM +0000
erm this still on?, thread is a year old :O
Sure is. Don't you see it under forthcoming events?

yeah was surprised, unless you planned that far ahead already? :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 01:14:27 AM +0000
erm this still on?, thread is a year old :O
Sure is. Don't you see it under forthcoming events?

yeah was surprised, unless you planned that far ahead already? :D
Well I've almost completed the 2014 season  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: goldtop on November 18, 2013, 08:48:23 AM +0000
Can't make this last round unfortunately. Have fun.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 09:01:09 AM +0000
Can't make this last round unfortunately. Have fun.
OK, see you soon.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Burtoner on November 18, 2013, 09:25:33 AM +0000
Tested just now at Brands all working great, its good to know track when you been there like 3 times in last year and half ;)

Just changed my steering ratio from 900 to 360 with G27, and went quicker, down to 1:58.5 in the REAL Lotus Cortina :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: roguk on November 18, 2013, 03:29:42 PM +0000
HI ...  server Early Brands will not let me in tried both passwords when click on tick nothing happens?
 track working ok off line with Ai.
can`t get near Burtoners time best in Cortina 2.05, will try mini later.
 is there a cure for cars ahead having no wheels when i get closer the wheels pop on, most noticed on Abarths?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 04:35:17 PM +0000
HI ...  server Early Brands will not let me in tried both passwords when click on tick nothing happens?
 track working ok off line with Ai.
can`t get near Burtoners time best in Cortina 2.05, will try mini later.
 is there a cure for cars ahead having no wheels when i get closer the wheels pop on, most noticed on Abarths?
I will have to check this later (I'm at work now). That's an Abarth graphic glitch. Possibly if you set graphics to lower quality it fixes it?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 06:41:26 PM +0000
Server was set to the correct practise password. It is now set to tonight's race password


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 09:53:34 PM +0000
Replay and results now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 18, 2013, 10:42:01 PM +0000
Robert, what happened? You were a strong contender


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Burtoner on November 19, 2013, 12:33:37 AM +0000
Robert, what happened? You were a strong contender

family issue's my dad came round to let me know how my 92year old Grandma was getting on, I know it wasn't at right time, but something I had to do..


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: roguk on November 19, 2013, 05:25:31 PM +0000
Grats to Tony on win.
Eventually got to grips with cortina and had good fun driving it, for 11 laps had great race trying to keep up with Tony, Then had to do stop and go, then on next lap came in to pit and fluffed it wasted loads of time (got to praccy this pitting and set the keyboard up).

Thanks Tony for link to XD, have installed and lots of useful info, some questions
1 in garage fuel 12.2 galls =14 laps /0:23  in XD fuel 23.9(25.3) is this 23.9 laps or 25.3 laps or something else?
2 what is /0:23?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BillThomas on November 19, 2013, 06:04:55 PM +0000
Thanks Tony nice combo again - pity no Falcon.  :'( New PB in practice but couldn't match it in qualifying or race and I wasn't lapped so that was a good result for me.

Am I the only driver using a proper clutch pedal, only I always seem to be able to make good progress off the line?  ???  After that it all turns to worms. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 19, 2013, 06:47:09 PM +0000
I use the clutch pedal Bill  ;)

BTW if you like the Falcon look out for it's muscle bound brother in next seasons V8's  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 19, 2013, 06:58:01 PM +0000
Thanks Tony for link to XD, have installed and lots of useful info, some questions
1 in garage fuel 12.2 galls =14 laps /0:23  in XD fuel 23.9(25.3) is this 23.9 laps or 25.3 laps or something else?
2 what is /0:23?

Not sure about the 0.23 Roger unles it's the amount of time it adds to a pit stop? maybe someone else knows the answer?
In XD setup you can have three fuel info options.

; 0 = Cycle from liters last lap to prediction  every 10 secs (default)
; 1 = Show only liters last lap & average
; 2 = Show only predicted laps based on last lap and average
; option is valid only when general HUD-Mode is not 0

Not sure about the 23.9 (25.3). But I know the first figure is based on your last lap and the figure in brackets is the average of all laps (I think). As it's a large figure I don't think it's a lap time so it must be the number of laps you can do with your current fuel load.

Note that in the .ini file you can adjust the locations on screen where the various info panels are displayed and that you can also toggle them on/off.

Finally don't be suprised if XD shows different fuel/laps to GTL. Trust XD.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: SpecialKS on November 19, 2013, 08:06:31 PM +0000
It was a last minute decision to change to the Mustang, but without a single lap
of practice and with an improvised setup it was instantly a better drive than with
the Cortina although I was missing about one second per lap.

Got a stop&go for cutting at the outside of the track ??? right behind Druids - an issue
which already forced me to retire from a race a long time ago.
But not this time - rejoined track right behind Bill but he let me pass for second place.
Thanks Bill.
Great event again - unfortunately small turnout for one more time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: roguk on November 19, 2013, 08:20:07 PM +0000
Thanks for reply Tony
does this mean (Not sure about the 23.9 (25.3). But I know the first figure is based on your last lap and the figure in brackets is the average of all laps (I think). As it's a large figure I don't think it's a lap time so it must be the number of laps you can do with your current fuel load.) i could poss do 23.9 or 25.3 laps? if so Brands 22 laps i would not need to pit?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 19, 2013, 09:04:03 PM +0000
Thanks for reply Tony
does this mean (Not sure about the 23.9 (25.3). But I know the first figure is based on your last lap and the figure in brackets is the average of all laps (I think). As it's a large figure I don't think it's a lap time so it must be the number of laps you can do with your current fuel load.) i could poss do 23.9 or 25.3 laps? if so Brands 22 laps i would not need to pit?

Exactly, at least not for fuel. As a race admin it falls upon me to make sure that all of the cars included in a race can manage the distance without needing to refuel. Otherwise it becomes an endurance event which would have an announced pit stop.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: roguk on November 20, 2013, 12:44:14 AM +0000
Thanks for reply Tony, now i can see how important XD is.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BillThomas on November 20, 2013, 12:09:05 PM +0000
I use the clutch pedal Bill  ;)

BTW if you like the Falcon look out for it's muscle bound brother in next seasons V8's  8)

Thanks Tony - my reaction time must be on the ball then.   :thumbup1:  Look forward to trying that when the time comes.  Are we having the equivalent GM car (similar to the Aussie V8 Holden) - that should be another exciting car to drive.  :jumpjoy: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 20, 2013, 12:47:44 PM +0000
I use the clutch pedal Bill  ;)

BTW if you like the Falcon look out for it's muscle bound brother in next seasons V8's  8)

Thanks Tony - my reaction time must be on the ball then.   :thumbup1:  Look forward to trying that when the time comes.  Are we having the equivalent GM car (similar to the Aussie V8 Holden) - that should be another exciting car to drive.  :jumpjoy: :rockon:

Pontiac GTO  :whistling:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BillThomas on November 21, 2013, 12:05:08 PM +0000
I use the clutch pedal Bill  ;)

BTW if you like the Falcon look out for it's muscle bound brother in next seasons V8's  8)

Is this the car?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUxH8oMlRw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Hope the "TBA" handles well!!!  :devil:  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 21, 2013, 12:40:04 PM +0000
I use the clutch pedal Bill  ;)

BTW if you like the Falcon look out for it's muscle bound brother in next seasons V8's  8)

Is this the car?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUxH8oMlRw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No. It's like the standard Falcon but with a bigger bore engine


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 British Saloon Car Championship - Brands Hatch - Nov 18
Post by: BillThomas on November 21, 2013, 01:29:12 PM +0000
I use the clutch pedal Bill  ;)

BTW if you like the Falcon look out for it's muscle bound brother in next seasons V8's  8)

Is this the car?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUxH8oMlRw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No. It's like the standard Falcon but with a bigger bore engine

Yea but - Wikipedia covers the evolution of the Falcon.  Looks like Aussies introduced larger V8 engine and 4 spd manual gear box as a precursor to Falcon GT.  Car I linked was 1968 model.