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Title: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 16, 2012, 01:10:41 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (22 laps)

Track: Hockenheim GP '88 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_hock88)

Cars allowed: Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (substitute car Porsche 914-6 No.370), Boss 302 Ford Mustang Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_boss302mustang) (substitute car De Tomaso Pantera No.86) ,VW Scirocco Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_scirocco), Alfa Romeo GTAm Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_alfa_gtam)

Drivers are reminded that the maximum number of drives in any car is four. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdEtrb081cnk5cHlKTl81cVRtTl9ST2c)


Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk MONDAY
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=375&theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 01, 2013, 12:46:25 PM +0100
This, and all future GTL events, will be held using the Simbin lobby.

Please go here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11782.0) for details of how to prepare for the switchover.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: BillThomas on July 31, 2013, 08:02:58 PM +0100
Nice one Tony.  All went OK on Simbin, Alfa sounds amazing at full chat down those long straights and drives well (for me).  :thumbup1: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on August 01, 2013, 08:32:01 AM +0100
Hopped over to Simbin server. All looks OK :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: quicksilver384 on August 05, 2013, 03:08:24 PM +0100
2:30 with a messy lap in the stang thatll do.

2:26.4


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: phspok on August 05, 2013, 08:13:42 PM +0100
Probably can't run tonight, unable to register
can ping gtlsrv.race-game.com but whatever I try in game it "can't connect to server"
I think that's just a generic error message though.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 05, 2013, 08:53:01 PM +0100
First race on the Simbin lobby and I get a disco just as we went to grid. The irony is not lost on me  :censored: :censored: :censored: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 05, 2013, 08:56:26 PM +0100
Probably can't run tonight, unable to register
can ping gtlsrv.race-game.com but whatever I try in game it "can't connect to server"
I think that's just a generic error message though.
Yeah, the error message is usually "General login error" for a Register problem.
I didn't even re-register. The boxes were already filled out from the GTL version I'd copied so I thought "what the hell" and went straight to join lobby and to my amazement it worked first time.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on August 05, 2013, 09:34:38 PM +0100
Mmm hoped the transit to the new lobby would solve it Tony. Too bad it doesn't seem the remedy.

Is it possible to ask people to stay connected during the race, even if they are not continuing? Once again i get a frozen screen when someone leaves during the race. This time i was nicely in third when Hristo left and i was out too, a bit like last week at Istanbul. It is getting a bit annoying and it seems avoidable to me.
Or should it be something to do with my pc?

Well it was fun while it lasted. :(

Edit: well it seems we had random disco's, so sorry to Hristo who had a disco from the lead, when i thought you just left the game.
Congrats to John. Great return!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: quicksilver384 on August 05, 2013, 09:56:35 PM +0100
Well that was intense.

After lap 5 Hristo just boosted away and I can only assume he had problems a few laps later as I got passed him then I spun and he went passed me then he left. (I can only assume Disco)

At the start of the last lap I noticed I was very low on fuel the light was flashing so I done the last lap at 80MPh in 4th and made it (somehow)

Great race see you next time folks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on August 05, 2013, 10:18:20 PM +0100
3rd connection lost in 4 races, always near the end with few laps to go. I'm pretty sure it's something to do with either the server or the line between myself and the server. No issues whatsoever on other sims/leagues and online games. It also used to be just fine when I was driving in UKGTL before. Never had a disco back then.

Quicksilver, I had to slow down to pick up my speaker which fell on the floor because of the FF, lol.  :P Congrats for the win!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 05, 2013, 10:31:58 PM +0100
Sorry to hear that others had problems tonight  >:(

Also the results have been scrambled so I'll have to do them manually  >:(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 12:23:12 AM +0100
Replay and truncated results posted.

It looks like Roger was problematic. I noticed you were getting track miss-match messages and also your times were always at the bottom of the listings in my XD even though they were faster than some others. I will remind all drivers that it is important that you download your track from this site to ensure that we are all running the same track version.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Mike McGeer on August 06, 2013, 06:49:53 AM +0100
Thanks all for the racing, I was also plagued with a number of Disco's thru out the evening, I even switched over to another ISP Link.
Had a bad start, forgot where first gear was, "LOL", countdown came and everyone launched but me, I was still In neutral, quickly fixed that, sorry to the guys behind me causing confusion at the start. Once I was mobile the plan was not to be brave and maintain a steady pace, I was maintaining the I think it was Postal and we where slowly catching the guy up ahead, Goldtop was very quick in the beginning and was able to catch us thru the slower sections before the pits.
After I had a off the gap due to me own fault I lost the tow and decided just to finish, was still able to keep Goltop behind at this stage.

On the third last lap I was concerned on the fuel consumption so I slowed down and short shifted trying to make it to the end.
I had inherited 2nd spot at this stage, obviously the guys ahead of me had had there own issues, needless to say I fell victim to a final Lap "DISCO". !!!! :-[
A well, at some point I am sure this problem will sorted, ill take it as a mechanical failure of some kind.
 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on August 06, 2013, 10:35:31 AM +0100
Once I was mobile the plan was not to be brave and maintain a steady pace, I was maintaining the I think it was Postal and we where slowly catching the guy up ahead, Goldtop was very quick in the beginning and was able to catch us thru the slower sections before the pits.
After I had a off the gap due to me own fault I lost the tow and decided just to finish, was still able to keep Goltop behind at this stage.
 

Hey Mike, too bad about your dnf. I was driving with sweat in my hands with your stang filling my mirrors. I was looking forward too a good scrap, wasnt too be.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 01:05:26 PM +0100
Mmm hoped the transit to the new lobby would solve it Tony. Too bad it doesn't seem the remedy.

Is it possible to ask people to stay connected during the race, even if they are not continuing? Once again i get a frozen screen when someone leaves during the race. This time i was nicely in third when Hristo left and i was out too, a bit like last week at Istanbul. It is getting a bit annoying and it seems avoidable to me.
Or should it be something to do with my pc?

Well it was fun while it lasted. :(

Edit: well it seems we had random disco's, so sorry to Hristo who had a disco from the lead, when i thought you just left the game.
Congrats to John. Great return!

This problem of yours has got me stumped. I have no idea why that happens. Can anyone offer some advice here?

I don't think that we can ask folk to stay on once they have crashed. They may stay to watch the race but if not they probably want to use the PC for other stuff.
You didn't have a problem when Ivan left did you? So it's only when someone else has a disco, like Hristo.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 06, 2013, 01:09:19 PM +0100
Hi ..... quote(It looks like Roger was problematic. I noticed you were getting track miss-match messages and also your times were always at the bottom of the listings in my XD even though they were faster than some others. I will remind all drivers that it is important that you download your track from this site to ensure that we are all running the same track version.) A BIG sorry if i was the problem, BUT i downloaded track and cars from your links Tony. Thanks for the race and grats to podium.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 01:13:15 PM +0100
We are all getting fed up with disco's not only in GTL but also in P&G.

Matt has been running some races on a spare home PC and I'm going to look into doing this as well. You guys will still connect via the lobby, in fact you shouldn't notice anything different. But hopefully it may rid us of this disco fever (sorry, couldn't resist that).

I'll try and sort something out for next weeks race but my free time is limited this week so no promises. I'll post over at next weeks race thread on any developments.

In the meantime I really need you guys to keep the faith and help me test stuff. I can't do this on my own guys. Another grid like last night will be perfect for testing my home rig and broadband suitability. Our usual server will be running anyway so we can always fall back to that if required.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 01:17:37 PM +0100
Hi ..... quote(It looks like Roger was problematic. I noticed you were getting track miss-match messages and also your times were always at the bottom of the listings in my XD even though they were faster than some others. I will remind all drivers that it is important that you download your track from this site to ensure that we are all running the same track version.) A BIG sorry if i was the problem, BUT i downloaded track and cars from your links Tony. Thanks for the race and grats to podium.
I'm sure you did Roger but you were definately the cause, albeit inadvertantly, of the results problem last night. These things happen and maybe I should have posted online last night when I saw the miss-match messages. But often these sort themselves out come race time and the messages disapear. Did you race? The replay doesn't show you on the grid.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 06, 2013, 01:30:08 PM +0100
Hi Tony yes did race and finished, only 4 of us left at the end.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 01:32:45 PM +0100
Hi Tony yes did race and finished, only 4 of us left at the end.

Err do you mean Five of you left at the end? Can you tell me where you finished and I'll try to correct the results.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 06, 2013, 01:42:56 PM +0100
Hi   on monitor panel on right side upper just showed 4 drivers left i was last, also my name seemed to be the only one with + numbers?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: quicksilver384 on August 06, 2013, 04:08:53 PM +0100
Hi   on monitor panel on right side upper just showed 4 drivers left i was last, also my name seemed to be the only one with + numbers?

On the first lap you were showing up as being in 1st and after that you went into last place, however the time gap showed you should have been in 6th or there abouts.

We are all getting fed up with disco's not only in GTL but also in P&G.

Matt has been running some races on a spare home PC and I'm going to look into doing this as well. You guys will still connect via the lobby, in fact you shouldn't notice anything different. But hopefully it may rid us of this disco fever (sorry, couldn't resist that).

I'll try and sort something out for next weeks race but my free time is limited this week so no promises. I'll post over at next weeks race thread on any developments.

In the meantime I really need you guys to keep the faith and help me test stuff. I can't do this on my own guys. Another grid like last night will be perfect for testing my home rig and broadband suitability. Our usual server will be running anyway so we can always fall back to that if required.

The disco problem seems only to affect certain people. Are you all running with the same ISP? I have had no problems other than once, however that was a local issue my homeplug somehow lost connection but our wifi was fine.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 06:41:20 PM +0100
Can anyone confirm Roger's finishing position please?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: BillThomas on August 06, 2013, 07:01:58 PM +0100
Can anyone confirm Roger's finishing position please?

Well there was a terrible mismatch between the pit lap boards and Xd with as rogers states, he was shown as + not minus.  Each time I passed the pit board Roger was shown falling back but then I noticed after part on a lap he suddenly jumped to a lower + time.  He surprised me when he first caught up with me and passed me then he spun.  On the 20th lap he tried to pass me into one of the chicanes and put me into the barrier breaking my suspension.  So yes at the end there were only 4 cars running as I was out and shown on my position screen as disqualified.  ::) ???

Hope that helps Tony.  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: SpecialKS on August 06, 2013, 07:09:22 PM +0100
Roger was in 3rd in front of me. 4 drivers finished.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 06, 2013, 07:26:33 PM +0100
So Mike must of been 5th then?

OK, I'll correct the results later, thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 07, 2013, 12:12:06 AM +0100
Sorry BillThomas in both of my GTL races have put you out by my errors.
Sorry gents for causing confusion in this race.Will drop out of GTL now and let you guys sort out your disco probs, without me adding more.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 07, 2013, 12:24:37 AM +0100
Sorry BillThomas in both of my GTL races have put you out by my errors.
Sorry gents for causing confusion in this race.Will drop out of GTL now and let you guys sort out your disco probs, without me adding more.

I'm certain that that's the last thing any of us want. The confusion isn't down to anything you've done, it's just one of those Internet sim-racing gremlin type things. Please re-consider.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 07, 2013, 12:28:46 AM +0100
Results revised


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Hristo Itchov on August 07, 2013, 12:39:00 AM +0100
Missing the best lap times from the race?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: BillThomas on August 07, 2013, 06:13:16 AM +0100
Sorry BillThomas in both of my GTL races have put you out by my errors.
Sorry gents for causing confusion in this race.Will drop out of GTL now and let you guys sort out your disco probs, without me adding more.


Don't drop out of GTL Roger, whilst it's annoying, it's what happens when drivers are aiming for the same piece of track.

The most annoying thing was the duff data I was getting.  Once again all these gremlins get visited upon us at times.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 07, 2013, 08:35:53 AM +0100
Missing the best lap times from the race?
Unfortunately, yes. (I'll see if I can get that data tonight)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: SpecialKS on August 07, 2013, 07:40:47 PM +0100
Sorry BillThomas in both of my GTL races have put you out by my errors.
Sorry gents for causing confusion in this race.Will drop out of GTL now and let you guys sort out your disco probs, without me adding more.


Hey Roger - no reason to quit.

We had a nice battle in the first stage of the race, before you could settle your 3rd place.

Good to have you here!  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 10, 2013, 05:40:10 PM +0100
Hi Thanks for replys , will try GTL again, perhaps midweek Tony could run a server to test why i give you mismatches, any tips or info to try with my GTL install would be appreciated.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 10, 2013, 06:38:17 PM +0100
Hi Thanks for replys , will try GTL again, perhaps midweek Tony could run a server to test why i give you mismatches, any tips or info to try with my GTL install would be appreciated.
There's a server running now for this'n https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11301#event3398

Maybe try that. BTW miss-matches are pretty rare but usually occur when a driver has a different revision of the same track or car mod.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 10, 2013, 11:58:17 PM +0100
Hi    joined server ok, going on track got (gamedata\sim_GTC_gdb mismatch)  drove for about a minute then got connection lost. Cars downloaded and track from your links Tony, any ideas?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 11, 2013, 11:33:27 AM +0100
Hi    joined server ok, going on track got (gamedata\sim_GTC_gdb mismatch)  drove for about a minute then got connection lost. Cars downloaded and track from your links Tony, any ideas?
Hmm let me think about that

EDIT: Have you set your game to Simulation mode? That's the hardest setting with no aids switched on.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 11, 2013, 04:32:28 PM +0100
Hi   YES


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 11, 2013, 04:48:23 PM +0100
Hi is the prob due to the fact iam using DVD GTL and need to find CBS version of GTL?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 11, 2013, 05:02:18 PM +0100
Hi is the prob due to the fact iam using DVD GTL and need to find CBS version of GTL?

I use DVD GTL so don't think that's it. And I don't know what you mean by CBS version?

I've emailed you my sim_GTC.gdb file


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: roguk on August 11, 2013, 05:55:35 PM +0100
Hi   i think that has fixed it Tony, joined server with no mismatch and no lost connection Thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 GT Cup '77 - Hockenheim - Aug 5
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 11, 2013, 06:02:46 PM +0100
Hi   i think that has fixed it Tony, joined server with no mismatch and no lost connection Thanks.

Great stuff  :thumbup1:

I did send another email but you can delete it now