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Title: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 21, 2012, 07:55:44 PM +0000
All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (36 laps)

Track: Zandvoort (National) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_zandvoort)

Cars allowed: Mini Cooper S KAD Works Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_mini_cooper_s_kad_works), Ford Escort RS 1600 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_escort_rs1600).

Geoffers has created an alternative default setup for the Mini which I think is better. Contact me if you want to try it or get it HERE (http://www.gamefront.com/files/23411395/G%27s+Mini+KAD.zip)

Car restrictions: No Restrictions.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk MvE
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the Championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=373&theme=5)

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on March 25, 2013, 10:51:06 PM +0000
This was going to be Macau in China but in view of the small grids this series is attracting I've changed the venue to a shorter length circuit


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 11, 2013, 07:57:36 PM +0100
Am gonna see if I can select an escort, If so I will join :-)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 11, 2013, 08:25:02 PM +0100
Am gonna see if I can select an escort, If so I will join :-)
But if you don't have the Mini's correctly installed then you will get load screen flash as your PC try's and fails to find the right Mini to load up  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 11, 2013, 08:51:45 PM +0100
I know :-( The problem I had was with the minis so I will remove EVERY car within the game and just install these 2 and see if that works.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 11, 2013, 10:20:45 PM +0100
I know :-( The problem I had was with the minis so I will remove EVERY car within the game and just install these 2 and see if that works.
You could make a copy of your entire GTL install. Then you would have one to use all the time and another to try out stuff such as you've suggested above.

Good luck BTW


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 12, 2013, 06:56:53 PM +0100
Managed to get in using a escort :-) Will be racing this one


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 12, 2013, 07:03:30 PM +0100
Hope my Mini won't cause you too much grief


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 12, 2013, 07:13:02 PM +0100
shouldnt do you will be out of my mirror view :-)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 12, 2013, 08:22:04 PM +0100
Love this mini lol.

1:21.888 might shave .25 more off if I am careful


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 12, 2013, 10:12:51 PM +0100
So no more Mini troubles John?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 12, 2013, 11:14:18 PM +0100
Nope works a treat. No pun intended.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BadBlood on June 13, 2013, 10:12:21 AM +0100
Definitely up for this one - is there an online practice server at all? I haven't downloaded the cars or anything but I will give it a go tonight.

Confident of managing the low 20's on this track. The low 2:20's that is.... ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 13, 2013, 02:51:04 PM +0100
The server was up for practice last night so i can only assume it is now. I believe it will be closed for the png race tonoght though


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Magic43 on June 14, 2013, 05:55:14 PM +0100
Can i join the GTL series too?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 14, 2013, 07:32:59 PM +0100
Can i join the GTL series too?

You betya. Please try to join our event in the Altbierbude lobby before race night to check that there are no probs. Avoid Sunday night as there's a GTR2 event running so our GTL practise server will be closed.

Any probs just ask, oh and a big big welcome  :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Magic43 on June 15, 2013, 02:50:05 PM +0100
Thx a lot an i will check out the join  :) Look forward to the races  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: SpecialKS on June 16, 2013, 07:57:54 PM +0100
I'm back for this one - I doubt the tyres of the Mini will last over the distance...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BillThomas on June 17, 2013, 06:04:03 AM +0100
I'm back for this one - I doubt the tyres of the Mini will last over the distance...
,  ::

Did 12 laps in race trim front left tyre turns pretty colours but seem ok with low wear.     :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on June 17, 2013, 08:48:36 AM +0100
Hello gentlemen,

If my wife decides to not give birth to our baby yet, i will be attending tonight's race. ::) Although it is really to good of a weather over here to be stuck behind a PC on the attic :angel:
Looking forward to driving an escort. Mostly sideways probably.

See ya all tonight.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Ross Hawkey on June 17, 2013, 11:28:22 AM +0100
Can i join the GTL series too?
I'm sure you will be welcome Rolf :-)

I'm hoping to make it, and with luck, we'll have another from RC too :-)  d'loads/lobby stuff permitting.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BadBlood on June 17, 2013, 12:10:36 PM +0100
Just tried in the Mini. Setup is horrible but I have NO IDEA what I am doing in it, I am making Tony in GPL look like Jim Clark. 1:30 in five laps and I was quite pleased with that! Not exactly the same as GPL but such a giggle. Hope to see you on grid later.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: phspok on June 17, 2013, 12:31:44 PM +0100
I couldn't drive either of these cars last time, but I'll have another go tonight...  :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2013, 12:36:33 PM +0100
Just tried in the Mini. Setup is horrible but I have NO IDEA what I am doing in it, I am making Tony in GPL look like Jim Clark. 1:30 in five laps and I was quite pleased with that! Not exactly the same as GPL but such a giggle. Hope to see you on grid later.

Thanks for the compliment (I think :-\ ) I would urge all Mini pilots to download the Mini setup by Geoffers. For me it made the Mini totaly driveable.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2013, 12:37:31 PM +0100
I couldn't drive either of these cars last time, but I'll have another go tonight...  :o

Good on yer  :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BadBlood on June 17, 2013, 01:27:49 PM +0100
Thanks for the compliment (I think :-\ ) I would urge all Mini pilots to download the Mini setup by Geoffers. For me it made the Mini totaly driveable.

It was meant as a compliment - you drive a wide variety of these things very well and the setup options don't seem as rich as in GPL and yet you drive reasonably competetively in the GPL series as well whereas I will be eight to ten seconds off the pace. Hats off to you.

Really looking forward to this though, it is so different and yet so much the same...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: SpecialKS on June 17, 2013, 07:13:59 PM +0100
Damned - not too optimistic due to a unstable internet connection the whole day.

We'll see.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BillThomas on June 17, 2013, 07:33:55 PM +0100
Just tried in the Mini. Setup is horrible but I have NO IDEA what I am doing in it, I am making Tony in GPL look like Jim Clark. 1:30 in five laps and I was quite pleased with that! Not exactly the same as GPL but such a giggle. Hope to see you on grid later.

Thanks for the compliment (I think :-\ ) I would urge all Mini pilots to download the Mini setup by Geoffers. For me it made the Mini totaly driveable.

Yep  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: SpecialKS on June 17, 2013, 08:44:58 PM +0100
No comeback for me  >:( :-[ ??? - during quali after my best lap so far (1.23,5) connection
broke and after that I couldn't get a stable connection again.

Have fun guys - cu next week


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BadBlood on June 17, 2013, 08:52:00 PM +0100
Well I WAS looking forward to this but I got stuck in traffic and frantic computer starting got me to the start line at 20:41 :(

Drat and double drat.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Mike McGeer on June 17, 2013, 09:04:26 PM +0100
 >:( O Well a real Noob moment. Thought there was a warm up, left my Sim for a Quick leak and the race started DRAT,  DRAT, DRAT.
See you guys next week.


 


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 17, 2013, 09:45:01 PM +0100
>:( O Well a real Noob moment. Thought there was a warm up, left my Sim for a Quick leak and the race started DRAT,  DRAT, DRAT.
See you guys next week.

Bad luck mate.

You only get 30 seconds after qualify to get the car ready for the race, I got caught out by that before I think.

Was a really hard but extremely fun race for me.

Had a great start and for the first couple of laps was extending my lead then as per usual for me I cocked up a bit and locked up going into turn one and had to let most of the pack through then fought for the next 10-15 lap to get back to 1st then started to pull away but couldn't keep the pace I had up as my front tyres were starting to wear pretty badly at the end of the race I guess I only had 5 maybe 6 laps left on the left front.

See you next week guys.

Thanks.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on June 17, 2013, 09:58:58 PM +0100
>:( O Well a real Noob moment. Thought there was a warm up, left my Sim for a Quick leak and the race started DRAT,  DRAT, DRAT.
See you guys next week.


 
I had that same noobish mishap at my first race some weeks ago.. ;) Better luck at the next one.

Had a nice first part of the race, but was afraid to push it really hard out of the corners and hang the tail out, so had to see the front three get away. After two spins it was all about getting it home.

Congrats to podium!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2013, 10:28:56 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.

Could Rolf please fill the location part of his profile please. Then you get a little flag next to your name. Postal I'm aware of your problem but we won't be able to fix that till at least next week.

Thanks for turning out and making this a very enjoyable event.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2013, 10:32:42 PM +0100
>:( O Well a real Noob moment. Thought there was a warm up, left my Sim for a Quick leak and the race started DRAT,  DRAT, DRAT.
See you guys next week.

and I thought it was something we said  ;)

See you next time


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BadBlood on June 18, 2013, 12:11:35 AM +0100
Don't think you will see me as the GT 77 are just too modern  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BillThomas on June 18, 2013, 12:20:09 PM +0100
Bad luck Kurt, I know the problem, when Virgin took over NTL they restricted band width at busy times.  So on race night I was getting ping in the 1000s with terrible lag.   ::):'(  Now have good solid fibre optic line to BT distribution box with short distance to house.  8)

New PB in practice and similar time in qualifying.  Made poor start, tried to limit wheel spin and let engine "fall off the cam".  :oops: Had nudge which put me off line, resulting in losing line and visit to barriers.  :censored: Driving became difficult, tried to adjust but after too many offs had to pit - just over 2 mins, so came out 2 laps down.  Had to satisfy myself trying to catch the cars in front.  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 18, 2013, 12:37:40 PM +0100
Well that turned out to be a very enjoyable race; where were you Badblood? You missed a cracker.

Very close grid at the start with John just shading it for pole. Was caught napping at the start by the Escorts and lost loads of places. Top four or five broke away from the others and some close racing ensued. Unfortunately I ran out of talent and crashed resulting in my rejoining with a slightly slower car. Was never able to catch the lead group and after I made some shocking errors resulting in big offs Matt was able to catch me. Then had some real cat and mouse antics with Matt right up to the flag where he was able to pip me to the line. Nice to see some new faces and also nice to have a fuller grid than recent weeks. Just need some of our regulars to put in an appearance and we will be rocking.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: phspok on June 18, 2013, 12:48:47 PM +0100
Wot Tony said. There is something about these cars I am missing, I am way off the pace compared to my usual mid field
spot. Can't be just that the Escort is slow compared to the minis as others were doing ok in them

I might try the mini with Geoffers setup next time.

Did we have contact Bill? I wasn't aware of contact with anyone, though Tony and I were polishing each others paint
at times  :fencing: If there was contact I am really sorry.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 18, 2013, 01:00:52 PM +0100
I thought that this track had more to offer the Mini than the Escort due to the number and type of corners involved.

I'm not sure that this will be the case at the next circuit in this series.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Ross Hawkey on June 18, 2013, 03:10:11 PM +0100
I'd given both cars a go in practice, and using Geoffers' now Legendary Mini setup, I was in the 1m21's with it.  Trouble was, I was only able to do a couple of laps at that pace before the front left tyre overheated, and I started to drop off in lap times (nothing to do with the set-up, just my poor FWD driving technique!).  Also, the front left wear looked like it might be high, so over 36 laps, I'd maybe never get to the flag without stopping.

With the above in mind, I went for the Escort, and even though I my best lap was 1 second slower with it, I felt over the race distance, it would be more consistent for me.

At the Green, it seemed like the Escorts had Nitro, as I moved up a few places.  Found myself in the lead for a bit after quickslilver went deep into T1 (Tarzan). His pace saw him get back into the lead after a few laps.   Once the race settled I found myself in P2, between the 2 yellow Mini's.  Rolf in P3 drove a great race, and was always in my Mirrors.

I'd hoped that the Mini's may drop away later in the race from having the possible front tyre wear that I anticipated, but their maintained their pace.

Great stuff though.  Shame for Mike with the warm-up misunderstanding,  I hope you can make it next time. With luck, if a colleague of mine sorts out his install, he'll get on the grid in a couple of the Monday series in the future as well.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: quicksilver384 on June 18, 2013, 03:44:45 PM +0100
Ross i would recomend the gtc cup aswel as the ferraris thems fun


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: BillThomas on June 18, 2013, 06:08:48 PM +0100
Wot Tony said. There is something about these cars I am missing, I am way off the pace compared to my usual mid field
spot. Can't be just that the Escort is slow compared to the minis as others were doing ok in them

I might try the mini with Geoffers setup next time.

Did we have contact Bill? I wasn't aware of contact with anyone, though Tony and I were polishing each others paint
at times  :fencing: If there was contact I am really sorry.

Yes I was surprised to out qualify you and also put in a fractionally faster race lap.  Peeved at my start and you got ahead of me into first corner but I was able to drive the mini inside you and over took you.  Then I turned in too soon at that slow left hander and you came around me and we were fighting for the line into that slow right hander.  We were both aiming for the same spot and you sort of leant on me and I moved sideways (racing incident) and I couldn't brake to follow you without getting 2 wheels onto the grass and going straight on into the barrier.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 18, 2013, 06:11:31 PM +0100
In case you missed it..............there's a poll here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=11753.0)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Magic43 on June 18, 2013, 06:21:14 PM +0100
Thx Ross  :) I thought in the last part of the race "Come on Ross make a small mistake and i can pass you" but you didnt  ;) It was a great race but the reason that i was so fast was the damn good setup for the Mini by Geoffers. Awesome feeling  :)

@ Wiltshire Tony
I did it already Tony with "Munich/Germany" if you speak about the board profiles.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 18, 2013, 06:24:37 PM +0100
@ Wiltshire Tony
I did it already Tony with "Munich/Germany" if you speak about the board profiles.
Probably needs changing to just Germany please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: SpecialKS on June 18, 2013, 07:59:30 PM +0100
Bad luck Kurt, I know the problem ...

yeah - today all works fine  ??? - normally I don't have any problems concerning connection but
yesterday my router always lost connection and tried to reconnect.

It's a shame - really liked the track in this beast of a Mini...


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Magic43 on June 19, 2013, 05:25:33 PM +0100
Probably needs changing to just Germany please.

Done  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 19, 2013, 07:09:28 PM +0100
Probably needs changing to just Germany please.

Done  :)
Thanks, should get that sorted for you soon


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 13 Mini's -v- Escort's - Zandvoort - Jun 17
Post by: Magic43 on June 20, 2013, 04:50:42 PM +0100
Yw  :)