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Title: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: BadBlood on December 10, 2012, 11:11:35 PM +0000
The 10th and last race of the season is at Monza.

This is the fastest GPL original Papy track. No need to say anything more...

As requested by the drivers there will be NO handicapping.
 
Please check the Season 23 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=359&theme=6) regarding rules and the Intermediates Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=363&theme=6) pages in particular.

Qualifying may start before 9pm, if so, Reserve drivers should leave the server when 35 minutes of qualifying remains and only rejoin when 30 minutes of qualifying is left. This is to ensure that Full Time drivers get priority in joining.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Intermediate Trophy races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents in the Lap 1 red zone will be moderated and reported incidents for the rest of the race, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident. Drivers are reminded that they are limited to ONE Shift-R. The Red Zone will extend to the exit of Malmedy if your Moderator mixes up his posts - look below smart alecs!

Please ensure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10879.0). Drivers incurring a penalty will receive a PM informing them of this."

Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.

Race List = iGOR
Server = T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 11/12/2012
Time = no later then 9:00pm UK Time (30-60 mins practice, race starts at 9:30pm)
Track = Monza (Papy)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 30 minutes
Race length = 28 laps
RED ZONE = ALL of Lap 1
Password: see above (#post_event_password)


65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used. You need a working installation of the 65 mod to install the 2.02 Update. All the 65 Mod files can be found here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Mods/1965)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=363;theme=6)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on December 11, 2012, 12:02:42 PM +0000
no pw?!?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: BadBlood on December 11, 2012, 12:06:01 PM +0000
Should be fixed now Fabio. I was a bit tired when I posted and forgot to associate the topic with the race. Apologies.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on December 10, 2012, 08:52:11 PM +0000
No problem Paul: I feared it was something wrong from my side!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: bernie on December 10, 2012, 11:48:35 PM +0000
Sorry to wreck the chances for Geoff , Sky,  Blito et al Lap 3 braking for Parabolica , lost the front , hit the curb and bounced back , silly thing to do so early on in the race , full tanks cool tyres etc. , was doing my best to keep it clean .

 :-[ :-[ :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: blito on December 10, 2012, 11:52:49 PM +0000
I was fine m8, although perhaps lucky to not pick up damage there - I had a brief moment of panic then realized I was still pointing in the right direction and rolling on all four wheels so I just kept going. Finished 5th in the end and well chuffed with that from 12th on the grid!
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: BadBlood on December 11, 2012, 12:11:56 AM +0000
WD Ronnie. Won it by 26secs!!!

Just remember Guys that this is provisional. Reports in by Tuesday please and I'll publish. Could change.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: garethhall on December 11, 2012, 12:12:56 AM +0000
Gotta say that was th best race of the season for me, proper racing.

Greats to Jonny on a fine performance and to podium. Well done to Ray on the championship, the better man won!.

Managed a good pole time thanks to a tow, not sure who from but thanks, got away well but was in close company and has to flick right to avoid hitting Ray I think, ended up on the grass and that was that, SR and S&G was in that pack with Norm, Bernie and Geoff I think, unfortunately that ended up with me flying through the air on the rails but the car came to rest rubber side down and seeming undamaged so gave it the beans and had a good battle with Jason for a while and managed to break the tow but by then I was 30 sec behind the leaders. Any way excellent race and look forward to racing again with you all next season. Grats again to Ray on champ!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: JonnyO on December 12, 2012, 01:09:42 PM +0000
  Monza is a race of patience, strategy very similar to an oval track.

  My car was perfect, but I would not try anything else, did not want to disturb the decision between riders vying for the title, I was very careful with them!! :fencing:

   But the victory fell into my arms!! :thumbup1:

   Congratulations to the trio, Peterson, Garreth and Rainier, you guys dominated everything!! :clap:

     :jumpjoy: Peterson Congratulations you are the champion!!!  :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: NHance on December 12, 2012, 05:07:46 PM +0000
Big Apologies to Ross Hawkey. Hope the crash didn’t ruin your race. Feel free to report it as I will accept the penalties with no excuses.. The race didn’t really work out for me as I had a couple of other shunts along the way although I was well beaten before then. Also had one with my team mate. WE won’t be reporting that one though. ;)

Well done the podium. It sounds as though JonnyO played a clever race. Congratulations to Ronnie who is a worthy champion

I have really enjoyed the season. Interest in team championships seems to be diminishing in all classes . Mountside were the only team to consistently have 2 drivers in the race so we are champions. We’ll take that ’cos if your not in it you won’t win it.

Hope to see you all next season. Oh & a Merry Christmas & Happy new year to everyone at UKGPL & in particular to those who make this all possible. THANKYOU
Norm H 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ross Hawkey on December 12, 2012, 05:53:25 PM +0000
Big Apologies to Ross Hawkey. Hope the crash didn't ruin your race. Feel free to report it as I will accept the penalties with no excuses.. Norm H 
Thanks for the acknowledgement there Norm. It was the only incident I'd been in contact with another car for the whole season, and it certainly was a big one  :laugh:.  Foolishly, I didn't look at the replay before leaving the server (forgetting GPL doesn't auto save replays), not that I'd want to do anything other than work out what happened and how. I'm usually pretty good at Incident avoidance (I'd already tiptoed my way through a couple earlier on in the Race), but at that point and speed on Curva Grande, I couldn't do much to avoid the contact. GPL's usually pretty good with Yellows etc, but I maybe missed one at the end of the straight.
Had to Shift-R, and stop/go, which cost me about 25-30 secs I guess, which I guess was a bit of a shame 'cos I may have been in the mix with 2 or 3 cars up the road, but had great fun anyway.

Well done on the pace of the front runners all season, fantastic pace.  My tactic is to put in steady consistent laps, and it's gained me some decent midfield results through the season, but I think I need to work on, and understand the GPL setups a bit more, to get a bit more out of the car.

Not that i'm looking to report anything :-), but does a server replay usually go up for members to download?
Looking for ward to returning for more next season.   Well done to Ronnie on the Championship for this season though, and to all who took part.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ronniepeterson on December 12, 2012, 06:25:51 PM +0000
I note from some of the pros that they hate Monza? What planet are they from, oh yeah there aliens!

I beg to disagree, that was a great race, 4 leaders and 14 lead changes quite apart from everything else going on up and down the field. I like Monza and hope we see it again.

Notwithstanding any moderation, I lucked in with the championship tonight but not the race win.

First up a Ferrari to play with, then quite a few fast drivers had misfortunes early on and Gareth by his standards had a tough night. My chances of that podium I needed was looking good. But I got greedy and wanted a win. So commenced a great dice with Dave and Jonny for the majority of the race. Whether I'm right or not both were very kind on me while taking every opportunity to get/stay ahead. Great racing guys, some of the best I have ever had. Close but fair, hard but fair, great fun. Jonny turned out to have more brains than both of us when he decided to sit back a little. With two laps to go his strategy paid off. When Dave and me tangled, as can happen and no ones fault, Jonny struck and took a deserved win. Dave recovered faster than me to take second and I concentrated on getting home for the last spot on the podium. A shame it was over really.

Commiserations to Gareth who is clearly a class act. Thanks to everyone for a great season. I thought the track selection was excellent and the racing even better. Obviously if I race the 65's next season I will shift up to Pros but I hope the intermediate division is well enough subscribed along with the novices for all three to remain available to provide the best choice of racing for everyone. Ciao.

Gareth I have just watched a replay to enjoy the racing again, but what I did not enjoy was my unfortunate steering input assisting your off and you losing a wheel. Not deliberate I can assure you but certainly not pretty now I have seen it, apologies. Not sure how it would affect results but I don't have a problem if you wish to report it. I look forward to racing with you again regardless.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: garethhall on December 12, 2012, 06:37:37 PM +0000

Not that i'm looking to report anything :-), but does a server replay usually go up for members to download?
Looking for ward to returning for more next season.   Well done to Ronnie on the Championship for this season though, and to all who took part.
http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS23_js.aspx#


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on December 12, 2012, 06:49:08 PM +0000
I note from some of the pros that they hate Monza? What planet are they from, oh yeah there aliens!

It can produce interesting races, but also very boring ones. If you had raced in the Pros yesterday you would know why. Also if you have raced Monza for more than 10 years regularly, you'd be thinking differently. Honestly some of us are sick of Papy tracks, lol.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ross Hawkey on December 12, 2012, 06:51:50 PM +0000

Not that I'm looking to report anything :-), but does a server replay usually go up for members to download?
Looking for ward to returning for more next season.   Well done to Ronnie on the Championship for this season though, and to all who took part.
http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS23_js.aspx#
Ah great thx.  I'd seen this section before when I was looking around a while back, but I'd forgotten about it. :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ronniepeterson on December 12, 2012, 07:42:19 PM +0000
I note from some of the pros that they hate Monza? What planet are they from, oh yeah there aliens!

It can produce interesting races, but also very boring ones. If you had raced in the Pros yesterday you would know why. Also if you have raced Monza for more than 10 years regularly, you'd be thinking differently. Honestly some of us are sick of Papy tracks, lol.

I have raced gpl Monza for many years. Its not one of my best tracks but I like it a lot. The intermediate race yesterday was not interesting at all......it was a classic! Having said that I would love more new tricky tracks, particularly for the 65's, but I guess I will have to wait for season 24 to see what we get.

Grats on the Pro championship Hristo.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: bernie on December 12, 2012, 09:45:38 PM +0000
I love Monza races , they can produce some very close battles and also can't be beaten as a training ground for close racing . 

Maybe we should have a Monza Championship for those of those of us who like this track  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on December 13, 2012, 06:54:27 PM +0000
Fully agree, Bernie!!
We could race such a champ in 7 different races, with 65, 66 2l, 66 3l, 67, 69x, GT and Can-Am


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: blito on December 13, 2012, 07:42:21 PM +0000
Monza is not my favourate track and I certainly have never done well there but it deserves a place in our series as it always ives great battles but unfortunately also great crashes!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: happyal on December 14, 2012, 09:41:36 AM +0000
Congrats on the championship Ronnie :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Hristo Itchov on December 14, 2012, 01:10:21 PM +0000
Congrats, Ronnie, next step going to Pro?  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ronniepeterson on December 15, 2012, 09:28:45 AM +0000
Thanks guys.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Rainier on December 15, 2012, 09:39:23 AM +0000
Thanks guys.

Congrats Ronnie for the championship. And sorry for my mistake at 2 laps of the finish in Monza.
We had a great fight together and with Jonny during quite all the race and the last lap could have been fantastic but ... !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Clutch4 on December 15, 2012, 03:56:06 PM +0000
Well done to Ronnie for the Championship Win and to all who took part.

I too love Monza, its always a season highlight as you always stand a good chance of having close races and as the layout is fairly simple, you get decent turnouts, so there's often plenty going on.

The race for me was chaotic at times but never dull. I chose the Honda to make Mountside a single make team for this final race and it certainly proved lively.

Pass of the season has to be Bernie passing me on lap 1 at Monaco at Mirabeau. Don;t know where he came from but it was controlled and slotted him into the small door i had left open (though i was sure it was closed which made it amazing). Its the only time playing GPL where i have been overtaken and thought - Wow - how did he do that!

Enjoyed the season so thanks to all who took part and all at UKGPL who make it possible.

Cheers
Clutch


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ronniepeterson on December 15, 2012, 04:50:56 PM +0000
Thanks Dave and Clutch.

Dave, how sad is this. I watched back the entire race in real time :-[ I was engrossed right until the chequered flag not knowing who was going to finish where on the podium. Same again please!

The Inters is a top championship, the best on offer at UKGPL dare I say? Personally I think the single shift-r and no sign of that 50% completed laps to score rule, make it the place to be for drivers of all persuasions, from would be heroes to fun seekers. I think it provides fair reward to those who practice and race and those who just want to race. Hopefully it stays that way for next season. Thanks to the organisers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: bernie on December 18, 2012, 08:06:02 PM +0000
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Pass of the season has to be Bernie passing me on lap 1 at Monaco at Mirabeau. Don;t know where he came from but it was controlled and slotted him into the small door i had left open (though i was sure it was closed which made it amazing). Its the only time playing GPL where i have been overtaken and thought - Wow - how did he do that!

Not half as impressive as the move I made monday AM , following 8 pints and a vindaloo  ;D  and you did get your own back on lap 3 LOL

Seem to remember it was the only pass I made in that race  :-\

not wanting to labour a point but some might note my track craft going up the hill towards Casino  on Lap 12  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: garethhall on December 21, 2012, 04:37:57 AM +0000

Gareth I have just watched a replay to enjoy the racing again, but what I did not enjoy was my unfortunate steering input assisting your off and you losing a wheel. Not deliberate I can assure you but certainly not pretty now I have seen it, apologies. Not sure how it would affect results but I don't have a problem if you wish to report it. I look forward to racing with you again regardless.
Would not have made much difference as i had two spins at para and got rear ended during the course of the race  :'(. As for that one, I had plenty of room and time but let the car run wide, there was no contact and I over reacted in trying to move right too quickly to aviod you and lost the ass of it for a second. no one to blame but me for that one, certainly not your fault. :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: Ronniepeterson on December 21, 2012, 05:27:06 PM +0000

Gareth I have just watched a replay to enjoy the racing again, but what I did not enjoy was my unfortunate steering input assisting your off and you losing a wheel. Not deliberate I can assure you but certainly not pretty now I have seen it, apologies. Not sure how it would affect results but I don't have a problem if you wish to report it. I look forward to racing with you again regardless.
Would not have made much difference as i had two spins at para and got rear ended during the course of the race  :'(. As for that one, I had plenty of room and time but let the car run wide, there was no contact and I over reacted in trying to move right too quickly to aviod you and lost the ass of it for a second. no one to blame but me for that one, certainly not your fault. :D

Your comment is appreciated, thanks.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 11, 2013, 11:04:26 AM +0000
Mod published. No reported incidents and a blind eye is turned to anything in the threads... what happens in the threads, stays in the threads. ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: bernie on January 11, 2013, 04:15:47 PM +0000
Thanks for the moderations, cant believe my name not mentioned in all these reports , must try harder  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 23 (2012) Intermediates Trophy (65) - Monza - Dec 11
Post by: BadBlood on January 13, 2013, 11:58:07 PM +0000
Just because you aren't mentioned by name Bernie, doesn't mean we aren't watching you...  :o