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Season 24 Works Trophy (67) - Round 2 - Zeltweg

The second round of the season will be at Zeltweg in Austria or should I say the Österreichring.  I assume we use the Zeltweg name because the German umlaut isn't allowed in a windows path, at least not on my "English" PC.  Originally built in 1969 to replace the bland and bumpy Zeltweg Airfield circuit, the Österreichring track was known for being very fast, as every corner was a fast sweeper and taken in no lower than 3rd gear in a 5-speed gearbox and 4th in a 6-speed gearbox.  There are also noticeable changes in elevation during the course of a lap which means the downhill sections are even faster. Like most fast circuits it was a hard circuit on engines and even harder on tyres simply because the speeds were so consistently high.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_GPG
IP address = 77.249.239.123
Race date = 27-01-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Zeltweg 1971 (http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/zeltweg.php)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 28)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Replays Available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS24_js.aspx)
Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=387&theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : here (http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/zeltweg.php) - please note this is NOT the problematic 1970 version.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.

The chassis token system is explained on the Works standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=387&theme=6). Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of Bosch Kurve. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

Last night we had some laps here...

John Bradbury had some frame drop issues, so I looked for a light version and found this (http://srmz.net/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=11694) 

I always had some probs with Zeltweg myself, especially at Bosh Curve..How exactly are we supposed to use that Axel? Just extract it to the track folder? I dont think it is a new track altogether?

cheers axel, installed and seems ok for now

Just extract it to the track folder!

If you have sound issues there is also the No Pits Sounds (http://www.f1legends.ch/update/circuits/zeltweg/zeltweg71_nopitsounds.zip)

Lol, thank you Axel, will try it out later this afternoon :thumbup1: .

GPG server is set for 28 laps Long race and listening on Igor.
Ciao

Thanks Fulvio!!  I started IGOR 10 minutes ago and Zeltweg71 wasn't on the server.  You must have just been on and installed it ;D.  Thanks again  :thumbup2:

I'm a !@#$%^&* noob. I've locked rear wheels at T1 and spun. Unfortunately Dave had no way to go and we've crashed. I'm sorry for what happened Dave.

So early in the race, top of the hill, blind crest, hardest corner to get right, not sure it was the wisest place for someone to make a pass  ???  But hopefully your in better shape than me.  Good luck to you and everyone else. Early night for me. See you all at the next round.

fun those 2.5 laps it lasted . H came on my inside last turn l3  but I was sure he was gonna attack on straight. And I would have let him by. I m amazed how the brab could glue the inside and go so quick..that was after I hit him when choosing fastest line out. I lost a wheel.  20 tokens wasted. guess I need more races before I m warm.

Sorry, Tom, but you went wide and I just took advantage of that by going for the inside, which is a line I normally try to take anyway, and the Brabham makes it quite easy to do so. After that I tried to keep as much to the inside as possible, but I guess you sort of turned towards my car, not expecting me to be there, and it was enough to send you off to the armco.  :(

Thats true I thought in worst case I would cut you off, but was sure you were further behind. Why I didn t verify this by using the 135 degrees view I have mapped the steeringwheels gearpads is a mystery to me.

Well I don't know for you but I find it impossible to look left-right while negotiating a corner.

Grats to  John for a triumphant return to UKGPL. I was rather hoping that his absence had knocked the edge off his speed  ::), but that seems a folorn hope now :-\.

Hristo and John set a pace that I just could not match. All those years driving the Waza means that I am still learning how to drive green cars ;). At least it should raise my GPLrank now that I am improving my times on other cars...maybe.

Fulvio was chasing me in the early laps and although I pulled away and generated a nice comfy gap I was never completely at ease. Twice during the race the extra grunt of the Brabham caught me out and I performed a 360 spin, fortunately without any contact with barriers. Each time I was far enough ahead of Fulvio to keep my 3rd place and ease away again. Then in the final laps , when I had resigned myself to a 3rd place on the podium, Hristo's name on prib suddenly dropped behind me and I was promoted to 2nd  ;D.

Grats to all finishers and for the general pace of everyone. I don't think anyone was lapped?? at least I did not see anyone.

Now apologies...

I had disabled my AV before the race but still suffered a CTD during qually, with the dreaded sound loop requiring a turn off the power to the computer to shut down and restart. Fortunately there was time to rejoin the server. I hope it did not impact upon anyone else.

Apparently I was warping at the start of the race? from my client view everything was OK although my frame rate dropped very low in some places and I was worried about being disco'd. So again, apologies for anyone I frightened.

Everything was fine until about 10 laps from the end when I performed a spin on the final corner and ran over the rumble strips. Then the sound became more and more corrupted over the final laps until I had to turn it off completely to preserve my sanity. I drove the last laps on instruments as I could no longer hear the engine note and my lap times dropped slightly.

I have done a registry clean up and defragged etc. I ran "End-it-All" before the race and now I think I need to dig into the .ini file to check various things. Would the bandwidth settings be a likely culprit for the discos and warping? I am a total numpty on these things, so answers in non tech speak appreciated.

I guess the other option is a total re-install of GPL?, but I cannot help feeling that these issues are caused more by some other software/update causing a conflict rather than GPL itself. But, what the heck do I know??  ::)

Clive try to swap the soundcard into another PCI slot if possible.

Sometimes there is a conflict with other devices wich share the same IRQ.
In the "device manager" you will find "Views" -> one of the options (3rd here) shows you the IRQs used and shared.

i do believe it's not recommended to run "end-it-all" on more modern windows OS's , things were different where we ran non NT based windows (pre XP) , these days windows needs more processes to run correctly . that said you should stop programs you don't need from starting at boot time , if you have noticed that your pc is taking longer to boot up it probably because of that . check in the start up menu and uninstall them , also check the what programs you have installed and remove the ones you no longer use or ones you didn't know you installed !

as a general rule of thumb rasterrizers v2 crash less than the older ones and imho the d3d crashes less than opengl .

some people have also had problems with the bit rate of gpl of some sound files , so it might be best to check/replace the ones you are using .

i wouldn't bother reinstalling gpl , but crashes like you describe can be caused odd files (add-ons) , sound files , car mips . if at only at certain tracks it could be odd sized mips in the track folder .

as for virus killers most have gaming or silent mode which would be safer , if you do insist on running "end-it-all" check your firewall is still running .

also check you have no scheduled tasks that are going run , just because you haved done any doesn't mean windows or other programs haven’t set some . you can things these somewhere in settings .

john

After a 4 year absence from gpl online racing things carried on as i left them with this win which i am delighted with, i was worked so hard all race long by hristo, his great effort to pass me and lead for 3 laps was in vein tho, after many laps of intense racing by both of us and pushing sometimes beyond the limit his engine blew and that was that, it was a shame because it would have been very close at the end if that had not happened.  i came over the finish line first and it felt great!

Grats to clive and fpoli for 2nd and 3rd

John,

Have you imported  your driver history? Doesn't look like it.

I cant find my name in the drop down

End it all does give you the option to load whatever processes you like , it makes the task very easy , at least in the original version which was shareware , I think you have to buy the programme these days so it "should" be up to date with all the latest OS

then again what do I know about rabbits  ::)

For once I kept my position off the grid after a very early flag drop and stayed ahead of various challengers until about mid race. I saw someone disco and then another (Arf and Bob) and that distracted me enough to get stuck on the wall and have Phil right on my tail. He soon passed on the straight and that was that. Nice to have some close company for the whole race.

Grats to JB back with full speed on the win. I looked back to see if I've ever been in a race with him and I was delighted to find I had and Hristo was there too, all of us in Ferraris, and I beat them both. I believe I benefitted a lot from pitstop handicapping, but the result is clear. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4250#event1192

Gents

I've had a look at the replay and raised a couple of incident reports.  Nothing too serious I'm just being thorough and giving you the opportunity to comment before I publish the report.  If I've missed anything please raise a report.

Regards

Phil

Some famous names in that list :).  One for the scrapbook!

I remember that one, it was a Race of Champions at the end of the season.  :)

Wasn't sure what to expect from this race, so went conservative and chose the cooper (and also to challenge my team mate Arf in the same machinery  ;D).  I had issues in qualifying, chief of which was my desk riving the plug outta the socket and rather terminating everything.  I returned with little time left and started from the back, some 8 secs off the pace!

At the start Phil's fezz was v slow away and I chose to go between him and the armco, but as he lit them up he went sideways into me and we both slid along the barrier (sorry for my part in this Phil).  My car was seemingly unscathed and I set off in hot pursuit.  My race pace was pretty good (compared to qual) and I managed to pick a few off, incl Arf  ;D but then spun at the last turn to return to dead last.  I fought back past Arf and got back on terms with Phil, getting caught out by his braking.  Soon after I was disco'd.  Not sure why, but it hasn't happened for a while so can't complain.

When catching others I really struggled to get by and generally had to wait for mistakes, I'll have to work on my race-craft.  Quite a few braking points are through corners and I was wary of losing it in the process.  Anyone else find this?

WD to podium & finishers, commiserations to Attilio, heart braking to be on pole then not make T1.

Bob

Yes you were better on the brakes than me.  I do find the braking for that left hander after the Bosch Kurve quite difficult to get right because of the crest.  I noticed you did the honorable thing and took to the grass rather than risk hitting me.  Thanks for that.

Sorry about the start, it was 50:50 which spinning wheel would grip first.  If you'd picked the other side you would have sailed past me.  Glad your car wasn't damaged.

Phil's done it for you I think.

You have a point there it, s a tradeoff, but in that specific situation with full control low speed planning the accelleration out, a tenth of a second flip on the right pad wouldn t cost me much time. I have used it in more hectic places and it has payed of well allthough some tenths of a second will be lost cause of the multitasking.

Mod report published