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Title: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 04, 2013, 12:25:56 AM +0000
UKGPL Season 24 Extra Trophy (69X)
Race 2 Reims

Welcome to the second round of the Extra Trophy for 69 Extra chassis. Reims is basically several long straights with a couple of hairpins and a few cornfields. Catching a tow is what this track is about. It normally produces close racing which will, doubtless, be a modding nightmare...

Reims-Gueux was first established in 1926 on the public roads between the small French villages of Thillois and Gueux. The circuit had two very long straights between the towns, and teams strove to maximize straight-line speed of their cars; many slipstream battles ensued. Race organizers actually felled trees and demolished old houses in order to make the circuit even quicker. International racing came with the first official Formula One event occurring in 1950, the inaugural year of the Formula One world championship. The circuit layout was shortened and changed in 1952 to bypass the town of Gueux; and the circuit was then renamed Reims. The layout was changed yet again in 1953, it was made slightly longer and faster; two fast curves and a hairpin further up the RN31 highway were added. The circuit was last used by Formula One in 1966 and the last car meeting was held in 1969.

The field will compress at the bottom hairpin (unless they have all spun off into the cornfields...) and there will be drafting aplenty down the back straight. It will all compress again and so the field will be VERY tight. If drivers are not patient, there WILL be crashes. The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the whole of the first lap.

Please check the Season 24 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=386&theme=6) regarding rules and the Extra Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=395&theme=6) pages in particular.

It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. EVERY Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded.

Race listiGOR
LIGHT ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
HEAVY ServerUKGPL3
IP addressping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Date08-02-2013
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackReims (http://gpltd.bcsims.com/include/downloadtrack.php?&track=reims&track_link=/tracks/reims_gpl.zip)
Mod69X
Damage modelINT
Race length23 laps
ReplayAvailable here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season24/Extra/)


Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 10 minutes, to allow full timers to join. FULL TIME DRIVERS GET PRIORITY.

Heavy and Light drivers will drive on separate servers. Please ensure that you know which class you are and that you join the right server

LIGHTS on UKGPL_T7_2; HEAVY on UKGPL3

The Light and Heavy Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=395&theme=6)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: fpolicardi on February 06, 2013, 05:53:29 PM +0000
T7 server is set to 23 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Console session with OpenGL set.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: francesco on February 08, 2013, 09:42:49 PM +0000
This 69 season is started bad and continues bad.Sorry to,I think,Philip Giroud(was a Matra) for the collision at the first lap.In the confusion for what I have done,I pressed the esc instead of shift R.My involuntary punishment.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 08, 2013, 09:53:13 PM +0000
Hmm. Blew the engine off the line and had to reset. Then had a nicae battle with Fabio to see who was worst and then blew my engine again on Lap 7 just as Fabio was preparing a pass. Took him out. Sorry mate.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 08, 2013, 10:00:44 PM +0000
Looks like T7 blew an engine too :(

I think UKGPL8 is a better bet for this graphically intensive Mod.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Ronniepeterson on February 08, 2013, 10:30:11 PM +0000
Early bath for me. Sorry for the contact Hendy, Phil and Florian. Hendy, I pulled out of the slipstream with space between us one second then in the next second we were drawn together like magnets with an innocent Phil caught by my spinning car. Good luck if you are all still running.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Geoff65 on February 08, 2013, 10:46:03 PM +0000
This 69 season is started bad and continues bad.Sorry to,I think,Philip Giroud(was a Matra) for the collision at the first lap.In the confusion for what I have done,I pressed the esc instead of shift R.My involuntary punishment.

Bzzzzzz.....Wrong, it was me you took out Fran. Two races at Reims now I've been "Jonny'd" first lap. Best paint over that target ASAP..... ???
Sorry to the field for my crappy start.....it put a wheel in the grass and it simply refused to come back under control.

After the 'unpleasantness' at the last corner on L1.....Bernie, Dave and Fabio were gone.....so I just set about finishing. Past Fabio at some point with some nasty looking skid marks on the road as evidence of his excursion cornward I believe. Could Just make out Dave and Bernie in the distance, so drove the pitboard to see if I could make any impression, sans any form of tow. Not even a helpful starling to gain some draft from!... ::)
They just seemed to march away with their combined tow.....so I accepted 3rd as best. Considering there were only 3 of us left by then....it wasn't hard to work out.

At the 1st hairpin a few laps later i saw some more skid marks heading fieldward on the exit. Looking up the road a bit, then checking prib, revealed Bernie recovering from a day in the country. Got my head down and started pushing to try and reel Bernie in a bit closer. Eventually picked up a little draft from him, which made the job so much easier.
I caught up to within 2-3 seconds with about 6 or 7 laps to go. Planning what I was going to do to snatch victory (2nd) from the jaws of defeat......when.....Bernie disappeared. Scared of me, I thought to myself.....but no, it seems Bernie must have disco'd. Unlucky mate, was looking forward to the standup, knock down finish to come. Dave ended up about 18secs up the road, well done mate, nice clean race....And a handy haul of points for me and Clark Hill.
Geoff.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 08, 2013, 11:13:46 PM +0000
That was a fun race.  Got caught up in a couple of incidents that I couldn't avoid so needed 2 SRs and 2 S&Gs.  Good battles with Hendy, Ronnie, Bob, Cookie, Florian (I think) and a few others.  Good track, the (possibly excessive) draft keeps the field together and produces some great racing ;D.

I had a couple of degrees of wing on and that seemed to make a huge difference in T1.  I could make loads of time up there and keep a tight line. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 08, 2013, 11:31:14 PM +0000
Errrr - that's not so good Phil... you are only allowed ONE Shift-R in this one... although I could be persuaded to change that.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Phil Thornton on February 08, 2013, 11:59:56 PM +0000
... you are only allowed ONE Shift-R in this one...
Ooops, got confused by "EVERY Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go" in the race announcement.  Perhaps it would be clearer to say "if you take your one and only shift R it must be followed by a S&G".

But no problem I should have checked the rules properly.  Seems a pity when neither were my fault (IMO).  I'll submit reports anyway.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Rainier on February 09, 2013, 10:10:18 AM +0000
For the HEAVY race, we were only 7 at the start after the poleman Jonny'O has been disconnected.
I took a bad start and was overtaken by Bernie and Geoff.
After Geoff made a mistake, good battle with Bernie : his Lotus was way faster than my McLaren on the long straights but my car was more efficient for braking.
Probably, I had more wings.
On the 8th lap, Bernie made a mistake at the hairpin and then it was an easy (and little bit boring) race for me, alone with an advantage of 10 seconds on Bernie and Geoff cars.
Only 2 cars finished the line, the same as in Mexico.
I won and I am happy but it was not the victory I am the most proud !

Hope we will be more than 8 in Montjuich, which should not be an easy track for 69's !
Moreover, I should be handicapped.    


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: MagicArsouille on February 09, 2013, 11:07:22 AM +0000
hi :)

good race and good battle whith H.   .....after looking the reaplay I can see a bug at T1 who put F.G out in the grass ...there is absolutly no contact .. :angel:.. ....another bug whith H. at the end of L7 where there is a contact , but by a very strange  :o and quick moove from H.car.....then I lost the contact, :-\  but happyly for me  H. do is mistake at L8 and have to S-R... :-* ...so I have just to controle the gap till the end......I finish whith 20 l in the tank !!.... ???

.....thx to Matra and the mécanics :) ....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Cookie on February 09, 2013, 11:22:53 AM +0000
Could have been a race for me...

I had a "no wing" setup that allowed me a top speed of ~ 320KpH (200mph) without and near 340kph with tow.

But my dreams were gone when Göran spun out of T1 and I t-boned him...
I recovered last and should have made a shift+r, as it proved in the next lefthander that my right front suspension was damaged, so I stranded in the cornfield...
Now I had to s+r and after the stop in the pits I was about a mile behind the others.

Now a catch-up race began that ended on the SF line with a 0,3sec ahead of Andreas  ;D

Shame, when my Antipasti team mate Phil got lost out of my slipstream by the fault of another driver!
That was great teamwork driving...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: il_lupo_mannaro on February 09, 2013, 11:51:50 AM +0000
Hmm. Blew the engine off the line and had to reset. Then had a nicae battle with Fabio to see who was worst and then blew my engine again on Lap 7 just as Fabio was preparing a pass. Took him out. Sorry mate.

Now I understand why you suddenly slowed down!! NP mate.
Unfortunately I didn't have a reliable setup (too much wing probably...) and my drive wasn't really comfortable...

See you in... Montjuic?!? Really? It will be harder than 66s...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 09, 2013, 12:16:09 PM +0000
Mea Culpa - I should have been more explicit in the race post but I am running three series so I tend to miss a few things now and then.

Anyone who would like to help out can always send me a PM.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 09, 2013, 02:19:14 PM +0000
hi :)

good race and good battle whith H.   .....after looking the reaplay I can see a bug at T1 who put F.G out in the grass ...there is absolutly no contact .. :angel:.. ....another bug whith H. at the end of L7 where there is a contact , but by a very strange  :o and quick moove from H.car.....then I lost the contact, :-\  but happyly for me  H. do is mistake at L8 and have to S-R... :-* ...so I have just to controle the gap till the end......I finish whith 20 l in the tank !!.... ???

.....thx to Matra and the mécanics :) ....

It's not a bug, it's just warp/lag. I had the inside of the corner and you should have left more room for yourself when on the outside, otherwise you risk warp/lag to send you off the track, just like it happened.

It was a very good battle indeed, but after my mistake I had no hope of catching you, you were faster overall and even if I was close enough for slipstream, I had more wing so there was no way to pass you down the straights. Grats!

One thing I want to point out is I'm quite unhappy about the calendar. With all those long straight tracks it becomes really pointless to race these winged cars. The whole idea is they have more grip in the corners, but it all becomes irrelevant on tracks like Reims, Monza, Hockenheim, etc. Not only they're slower than 67s on the straights, even without wings, but it's quite a boring ride to the finish. I was looking forward to racing these cars on proper tracks where the extra downforce and grip could be exploited, but now I've lost a lot of interest after having a look at the calendar. Monza, Sebring, Daytona, Hockenheim, Reims... half the season is wasted for these cars.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: EvilClive on February 09, 2013, 03:21:28 PM +0000
What can I say...."another race, another disco!!" This is getting a bit monotonous. :( :surrender:

As a last resort I have just vacuumed the inside of my PC case and removed a great deal of dust from the fans. It might just be an overheating problem that is causing these blackouts? If this does not fix it I am seriously contemplating a new PC, or at least replacing/upgrading motherboard/processor and RAM as I have graphics card , sound card and big power supply already. Then I might just go wild with the cash and move up to Win7 (or 8).



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Cookie on February 09, 2013, 03:34:40 PM +0000
Yes its a shame Clive, but when you have opened the PC, did you have a look at the capacitors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague)?
They are often the cause for random failures...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Flow on February 09, 2013, 06:28:29 PM +0000
good race and good battle whith H.   .....after looking the reaplay I can see a bug at T1 who put F.G out in the grass ...there is absolutly no contact .. :angel:.. ....

It´s not a bug. I had two possibilities there. I saw your car coming close to me. Either I keep my line and we both crash or I try to avoid contact and maybe we both make it, but unfortunately I went to wide and lost track and then went into one of these wheat fields or whatever they are, which is the perfect deathtrap. Catastrophic race there for me. Had to shift-r two times. Now I read its not allowed. I didnt know that because I am pretty sure the first race was labbeled as novice with infinite shift-r. So I might get DQ for that one.

It was a very good battle indeed, but after my mistake I had no hope of catching you, you were faster overall and even if I was close enough for slipstream, I had more wing so there was no way to pass you down the straights. Grats!

In fact having some wings was an advantage to the guys with no wings, because you could use their tow the whole straight while they had to get out early of yours. You then could brake later at the end of the straight and get in front again. Keeping up with them on a straight when you have their tow was no problem.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: NickyIckx on February 09, 2013, 06:34:37 PM +0000
 :)
Congratulations to Magic Arsouille on a great victory , to Hristo getting 2nd and to Dean makes it 3rd on podium with seconds slowest laptime , very good job !!

Well , I did had a great challenge and thrilling race. Fantastic start , needful portion of luck during first lap and thankfully an solid built BT26a stand lots of Armco contacts as well cars`s ones .  All over the race I had some cars in front and behind , so in my case , absolutely not an boring race , like it might have been to others , running around without any tow.
I like to apologize to Andreas for being in the way after I lost control by touching the right hand green under braking into hairpin 1 ! as well to Natan for causing an rear end shunt at L15. That one simply my fault all over . I already sent an incident report asking to penalize me for that

Well, disappearing Clive ; hope you can sort out the trouble. Would be great for you and less thrilling for drivers being close to you . This time I had two moments , where Clive`s car simply disappeared in front me .situation to abdicate….
Clive , are you using an onboard network card, or an PCI network card ?
At the very beginning of my GPL action I suffer by an weak onboard Realtek. Doesn’t caused disco but collisionbox issues.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Cookie on February 09, 2013, 06:43:00 PM +0000
In fact having some wings was an advantage to the guys with no wings, because you could use their tow the whole straight while they had to get out early of yours. You then could brake later at the end of the straight and get in front again. Keeping up with them on a straight when you have their tow was no problem.

 ;D
Florian just look at the replay, your father could pass me into the last corner, but he had no chance down to the finish line  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 09, 2013, 07:43:17 PM +0000
In fact having some wings was an advantage to the guys with no wings, because you could use their tow the whole straight while they had to get out early of yours. You then could brake later at the end of the straight and get in front again. Keeping up with them on a straight when you have their tow was no problem.

But no chance to win like that, because they would easily pass you down the straight towards the s/f line. Also, when you step out of the slipstream, you quickly lose the speed and the braking zones are the only places you can actually go in front, but it doesn't last long. I "practiced" it with Tristan a couple of times, but he always crossed the s/f line first.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: bernie on February 10, 2013, 12:21:18 PM +0000
Spent qually trying to find a set up for a track that has 3 long straights and only one decent corner , would have thought the best approach was minimum wing as every time I reduced it the car felt good and the top gear got longer , even so was suprised to get row 2 even without a proper tow . even more suprised to be in the lead thanks to Jhonny not making the grid and David R getting away slow but the bad news was he didn't take long to catch me up , the next few laps we played see saws down the long straights , I was enjoying the race and already planning how to get to the finish line in front , David was much faster out of the slow corners than me , I was faster on the "easy" bits , I could pass him with the tow but it wasn't looking good for the race from the last corner to the finish line , so I decided to see if I could improve my corner exit speed but too much gas too soon resulted in the spin and David was away having broken the tow , was hoping Goeff would soon catch me so we could perhaps tow each other back up to David and was thinking it might be worth hanging back for the tow when the disco lights went out .

Seem to be attending way too many discos these days and there damaging me health.

Grats to the podium boys and all who finished , commiserations to those like me who went home early  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 22, 2013, 10:20:26 PM +0000
Mod(s) published


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: Ronniepeterson on February 23, 2013, 12:01:54 AM +0000
Sorry again Hendy my fault. But I do have to laugh considering what happened at another race at Reims this season, still my fault for not reporting incidents so I only have myself to blame. However I sense a mid term comment coming up regarding one law for some drivers and another for the rest regarding the overall moderation of all races so far this season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Reims - Feb 8
Post by: BadBlood on February 23, 2013, 01:52:16 AM +0000
I am trying to be consistent but I am finding running and modding four series a bit much. I am not spending as much time on each incident as I would like or hope to, and that is bound to lead to some snap judgements.

If you are unhappy, let me know via PM but I can't promise to attend to it soon.