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Title: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: BadBlood on February 19, 2013, 01:26:43 PM +0000
UKGPL Season 24 Extra Trophy (69X)
Race 3 Montjuich Parque

Welcome to the third round of the Extra Trophy for 69 Extra chassis. Montjuich Parque is a street circuit on Montjuich mountain above Barcelona.

A twisty tricky circuit it was the site of the tragic 1975 Spanish Grand Prix. Many drivers felt that the circuit was unsafe, and two time world champion Emerson Fittipaldi withdrew in protest before the start of the race. On lap 26 the Embassy Hill-Lola car of Rolf Stommelen left the track, killing five people. The race was subsequently stopped at half distance and half points awarded, with Jochen Mass being recorded as the winner. Lella Lombardi became the first female driver to score world championship points, taking 0.5 points for 6th place. Formula One never returned to the circuit after the accident.

Luckily the worst we can suffer is a lost wheel!

The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the whole of the first lap.

Please check the Season 24 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=386&theme=6) regarding rules and the Extra Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=395&theme=6) pages in particular.

It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. ONLY ONE IS ALLOWED and a Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded.

Race listiGOR
LIGHT ServerUKGPL_T7_2
IP address62.149.202.168
HEAVY ServerUKGPL3
IP addressping ukgpl3.dyndns.org
Date23-02-2013
Race timeRace starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Trackmontjuich Parque (http://montjuich.speedgeezers.net/)
Mod69X
Damage modelINT
Race length35 laps
ReplayAvailable here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/replays/Archive/Season24/Extra/)


Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 10 minutes, to allow full timers to join. FULL TIME DRIVERS GET PRIORITY.

Heavy and Light drivers will drive on separate servers. Please ensure that you know which class you are and that you join the right server

LIGHTS on UKGPL_T7_2; HEAVY on UKGPL3

The Light and Heavy Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=395&theme=6)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Al Heller on February 19, 2013, 06:15:10 PM +0000
I'll be interested to see if this is another screen-freeze fest...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: natan5 on February 20, 2013, 05:26:54 PM +0000
Probably Al !
It is very unstable track even with low objects !
With ne 69 mod its gonna be a nightmare  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Rainier on February 20, 2013, 10:29:00 PM +0000
I want to drive the McLaren in Montjuich.

What to do to select the wingless car ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: bernie on February 20, 2013, 10:55:20 PM +0000
afaik you have to select it from inside GPL using the Team Select page , works for me anyway  ;)

not sure from IGOR  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 21, 2013, 12:24:09 AM +0000
You select the wing version from GEM+, though I'm not sure the 69x mod has such options. Mine at least seems to not have any, hmm.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: DLogan on February 21, 2013, 12:37:27 AM +0000
You select the wing version from GEM+, though I'm not sure the 69x mod has such options. Mine at least seems to not have any, hmm.

Bernie's got it right. Start an offline session, pick the graphics you want (has no effect on the wing settings chosen in your setup), then quit and join race on iGOR.

If you switch mods, you'll have to repeat the above.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Rainier on February 21, 2013, 08:33:29 AM +0000
You select the wing version from GEM+, though I'm not sure the 69x mod has such options. Mine at least seems to not have any, hmm.

Bernie's got it right. Start an offline session, pick the graphics you want (has no effect on the wing settings chosen in your setup), then quit and join race on iGOR.

If you switch mods, you'll have to repeat the above.

In the team select page, I cannot see where to pick the wanted graphics !!??
I see the multiple versions of the car, with the country where they have been used (MC, ES, GB, FR...) ...but no way to select one of them :(   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Cookie on February 21, 2013, 09:18:29 AM +0000
Just over the pictures there is "graphics" where you can choose your version  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Rainier on February 21, 2013, 10:22:30 AM +0000
OK I found it !
I was trying to click on the pictures ...but was not seeing "Graphics"  :D

Thanks all for your help !


By the way, I will not be able to race in Montjuich tomorrow evening ...due to archery competition !
Good luck for the race


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 21, 2013, 08:38:06 PM +0000
Ah, didn't know that, thanks!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: fpolicardi on February 21, 2013, 11:41:03 PM +0000
T7 server is set for 35 laps Long race and listening on Igor in Consolle session.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Geoff65 on February 22, 2013, 10:20:32 PM +0000
Only done a handful of laps here, as my old machines could never cope with this track.....consequently I never bothered with it. Was down to  hi 30's in practice last night and was getting the car sorted out gradually after about 15 laps. Why then, does the race server always drive like oil has been spilled at every corner on the racing line?? The car was undriveable and I slammed the bags after eight laps.....waste of effort really. Using tracks like this is surely gonna kill the interest in the mod, i know it's historically correct.....but the online version is, problematic. Nice flowing circuit to drive though, on your own.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Ronniepeterson on February 22, 2013, 10:26:52 PM +0000
Blown engine with a few laps to go but very enjoyable race. Sorry to Piero for the tap from behind at the first corner and Axl I think who got caught up in my mess. Grats to the podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 22, 2013, 10:53:57 PM +0000
Using tracks like this is surely gonna kill the interest in the mod, i know it's historically correct.....but the online version is, problematic. Nice flowing circuit to drive though, on your own.

But it's 10x better than boring fests like Reims and the likes, you can really enjoy the extra downforce around tracks like Montjuic.

My race was quite an up and down story, with some calm series of laps interrupted by several situations where appalling behaviour by some backmarkers caused unnecessary and avoidable incidents, or when blue flags were ignored and they raced me for a few corners. In addition to that, I had to survive my own mistakes and with the help of Int damage, I could somehow continue despite a few strong encounters with the armco! It's a shame Art had to drop back early on and then retire, as he seemed to have the pace to challenge for victory and could have made things interesting. In the end I was trying to entertain myself by pushing for fastest laps, but the tires overheated right in front of Dean as I spun in the last fast corner. Fortunately there was no contact and after I continued, I managed to do the fastest lap on the last lap. Grats to all who managed to finish this exhausting race!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: bernie on February 22, 2013, 11:09:40 PM +0000
Only done a handful of laps here, as my old machines could never cope with this track.....consequently I never bothered with it. Was down to  hi 30's in practice last night and was getting the car sorted out gradually after about 15 laps. Why then, does the race server always drive like oil has been spilled at every corner on the racing line?? The car was undriveable and I slammed the bags after eight laps.....waste of effort really. Using tracks like this is surely gonna kill the interest in the mod, i know it's historically correct.....but the online version is, problematic. Nice flowing circuit to drive though, on your own.

Geoff If your cars OK in testing then the old oily rag syndrome is more than likely poor frame rate due to having all those memory eating cars sharing the track with you .

My problem was the wrong car and a bad setup though i didnt realise until too late just how poor , all my practise was done with the fuel brimmed , thought i would be faster in race trim but what a shock to see i was 10 seconds behind the front runners ,
In the race it was another shock to see a blue flag waved at the hairpin after what seemed to be only a hanful of laps when I was in traffic some of which had rejoined after making pit stop , so didnt realise until to late the flag was for me , sorry to all involved .
From there onwards I was getting blues waved at almost every corner it didn't help having little or no rear vision because of the ruddy great Mclaren rear wing  , prib was playing up so didnt know who was doing what to who and the pit board was 3/4 off the screen so no help there .

Apart from that everything was fine , I do like Montjuich at least its never boring and there always seems to be a better line and nmore speed to find somewhere , just wish there were some decent 69X set ups for dummies somewhere , post race I went back int otraining mode and piled on the wing , the car was alot faster but still not there .

Grats to all who got to taste champers and well done to the rest of the playboys and hairdressers
 
:D :D :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 23, 2013, 12:17:15 AM +0000
The problem with 69x setups, Bernie, is that you can have so many wing angle combinations that one has to make different setups for each track. I generally separate my focus between slow and fast corners, with slow corners influenced more by my suspension setup and the fast ones by the wings (and partially the anti-roll bars and ride height). It's still quite a lot of driver input to make these go fast though, I was correcting the car all the time in each corner. It would be rather difficult to do if I didn't turn off my FF completely.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: liveclive on February 23, 2013, 10:16:24 AM +0000
Grats to podium and finishers, it looks like there was some good racing last night.


Another race, another disco  :(

I think I could compose a standard text to insert for every race at the moment.......

"Managed a reasonable grid slot.....got away well......avoided the usual T1 incident (by driving right around the outside).

Found myself in 4th spot as lap 1 unfolded and the tyres warmed up..... A mistake by the car in 3rd place car as we started lap 2...up to 3rd with a big gap back to the car behind...............1st and 2nd cars still in sight  and I knew I could go faster, looking good.........Disco!!!!!!"

Watch out for another thrilling instalment after the next race.................


 
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: bernie on February 23, 2013, 12:05:03 PM +0000
In the results its has me as Disco even though I did the full race distance  ??? 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: bernie on February 23, 2013, 12:12:23 PM +0000
The problem with 69x setups, Bernie, is that you can have so many wing angle combinations that one has to make different setups for each track. I generally separate my focus between slow and fast corners, with slow corners influenced more by my suspension setup and the fast ones by the wings (and partially the anti-roll bars and ride height). It's still quite a lot of driver input to make these go fast though, I was correcting the car all the time in each corner. It would be rather difficult to do if I didn't turn off my FF completely.

Yea but 10 seconds ???  maybe it was just the wrong choice of car , either that or the brakes were jammed on  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: BadBlood on February 23, 2013, 02:23:33 PM +0000
<SIGH> I'll take a look Bernie. Almost certainly the server lost track of you. How many times were you lapped? Anyone else?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: robert john on February 23, 2013, 08:17:57 PM +0000
Congrats Hristo  Great lap as well

Grats to Florian and Dean for the podium

Thanks to Paul for helping me out on short notice

Thought I had a setup for Montjuich but seems this was my first 69X laps there. The default setup was ok after changing a few settings to "my" values. Can't see all the cars from my replay but I know for sure I bumped Natan at T1 and messed him up. Sorry.
I received a little bump myself around lap four but managed to keep going. I tried my best to let faster cars thru and can say that Montjuich is difficult in that respect. Not very happy with my pace but it was a fun race. Thanks for sharing the road

Peace

RJ


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Geoff65 on February 24, 2013, 11:35:03 AM +0000
Agreed H, I do enjoy the track, it's aestheticly pleasing...and never a dull moment!
No frame drops here Bernie, solid 36-37fps, everything up full noise, and off the startline clean as a whistle FPS wise. Must have rained overnight, cos the Saturday setup failed to work on Sunday. By the way Bernie, congrats on the Heavy class win mate, with a handy second to Fran. Good effort lads.
Geoff.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: bernie on February 24, 2013, 12:43:40 PM +0000
Great Scott  :o

I hadn't even looked at those results  ::) forgot all about heavy and light brigade , anyway its confessional time so the results may change as I owe apologies to both Francesco for a rear ender and Hristo when I turned in on him , the Hristo incent had a knock on effect with following drivers unable to avoid my wreckage but appologies out to all involved. 

Incident reports being submitted asap


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on February 24, 2013, 03:05:18 PM +0000
Great Scott  :o

I hadn't even looked at those results  ::) forgot all about heavy and light brigade , anyway its confessional time so the results may change as I owe apologies to both Francesco for a rear ender and Hristo when I turned in on him , the Hristo incent had a knock on effect with following drivers unable to avoid my wreckage but appologies out to all involved. 

Incident reports being submitted asap

Ah, so it was you at T1? I couldn't do anything to avoid contact, as I was already on the most inside part of the track. I thought you have seen me on the s/f straight before that, but with these cars having obscure mirrors and you fighting another car, it was probably not the case.  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: bernie on February 24, 2013, 04:19:43 PM +0000
The truth is I had a quick glimpse of a blue flag but I couldnt believe I was being lapped (Not so early in the race , Lap 9 I think ) I thought the cars behind were all on the same lap but perhaps one of them was a lap down after having made a pit stop due to the Lap 1 fracca  ::) I only knew for sure after seeing the replay . Luckily you scraped through somehow without damage otherwise I would have received the hate mail by now  :nono:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Montjuich Park - Feb 22
Post by: BadBlood on April 26, 2013, 01:52:14 PM +0100
Moderation (finally) published. Apologies for the severe delay.