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UKGTR SEASON 17 LOWER ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP  - ROUND 4

All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 GMT (10 mins)
Qual 2:       20:10 GMT (20 mins)
Race:          20:30 GMT (40 mins)- note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GTC from the UKGTR car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#msg54519) v2.16.0.0
Track: Montreal (v1.0.0.0) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_montreal)
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Dry.
Tyre wear: Normal.
Fuel consumption: Normal.
Pit Stops:: None required.

Server: simracing.org.uk GTC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=397&theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.

my wheel has arrived so will be on tonight to test it :-)

Montreal eh?..interesting. Dont think ive ever raced GTR2 here in any modern format. I assume its the F1 GP track? Think i did a P&G race in a Falcon here a while back, not quite the same as a GTC porsche  :P

got 1:42.361 on a quali setup with the Z4 but could prob get down to high 1:41 as 6th is on the limiter on the long strait.

1:39.47 with the Viper on a quali with Mediums all round forgot to change to soft so might get another 1/2 sec off that :-)

We have raced this combo before i think Mark.

nice time QS, quickest i managed this eve was 1:40.0 online with 40mins fuel and meds. That viper of yours will disapear down the straights!  :o

Dont think i have spanner, i didnt even have the track installed in my GTR2 dir !

If i remember rightly we did this at the beginning of season 16? (Maybe not) but I remember doing this combo at some point.

Only problem with the viper is that is tail happy and a bit sloppy in the corners but it is faster down the strait.

Here it is, MJ. You were there as well...  ;)

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10105#event2931

Sure I raced this combo quite recently too in the 996, but I'm not listed in this event.

The aliasing on the grandstands is horrible here even with quite high settings, which is a bit distracting. Might have to experiment with some of the track detail turned down to see if it will cure it.

That's Mosport ya wally! Not Montreal  ;D

No problem with gfx for me GT  ???

 ::)

i think the timed race is off a bit

OK. I will change the race to a lap count rather than a timed race.

Hope to make this, have not touched my wheel in two weeks :(

i assume the races still run the same?? except no pit and 40 min race

Yep, no pitstop and 40mins (though H@L might do a lap count).

Don't forget the formation lap and rolling start on pit limiter. Go when the driver in front of you goes, unless you're on pole  ;)

how many laps are you setting it too H@L?

right oh chears

Was anyone else getting lag after MJ left?

Everything was fine for me until then, lag just got worse and worse, eventually my position stopped working and finally about 4-5 laps later everyone vanished  ???

Well that was a waste of time and effort. Apologies to anyone that fell foul of my lagging car. I saw spanners message but he was nowhere near me on track at the time so dismissed it as an anomaly. Then the game said it was synchronising then h@l got on the comms, so quit.  >:(
No idea why, my router was fine and missus wasn't on her laptop (my initial thought!) so must have been atmospherics  ??? It's pretty cold up on the north downs tonight!
H@ls car was warping in front of me on the warmup lap so??  

Can I moan about timekeeping while I'm in a bad mood, that's the 2nd race in a row that's started about 10minutes late. I get enough aggro racing on a Sunday without delays.  :surrender:

Hope the rest of you had a good race. Got upto 5th before getting distracted by the messages but no pace to catch the top 4 without them binning it. Don't know how you guys were pulling 37's out the bag. :boat:

That was disappointing. Made a silly mistake on lap1 which allowed Legzy to close and pass, but then spun at T1 letting half the field through. Rejoined behind a very laggy MJ so had to keep my distance until he made an error which let me through.

Started to chase back and outbraked myself into the final chicane and despite slowing to ensure I didn't gain time through it, I was docked a lap (I think). My xd was jumping around showing drivers in different positions....very strange. Gave up as I appeared to be a lap down and last place  ::)

Yup defo something weird going on then....i looked at one point and legzy was p5, then that reset and i went back to p8 even though nobody had passed anyone

same problem as most, after H@l told MJ to quit, my race position was all over the place, then it said i was in 4th place but there was no gap to person in front or behind, i kept going for another 4 laps hopeing it would reset but it didnt so i thought i had disconnected and pressed escape. shame as this is one of my favourite tracks, still at least we can race it with LMP2's next week!

I had to ask you to stop due to your car warping MJ. It was quite bad. Sorry bud. Your ping was fine so no idea what the problem could be.

All cars appeared to have some small lag for a while after that from what I could see in the pits and the timings were going crazy. The lag seemed to go and the timings were correct again after about lap 14.

Something was defiantly not quite right with the server during that event. We have raced this track before with more drivers and less issues in the past I believe. Also sorry for starting practice one a bit late this evening.

That did not go so well for me this evening. I think some people may have had some fun out there tonight at least.

Thanks for racing all. See you at the next one.

Well that was fun.

timing were messed up a wee bit but sorted out only a couple wee mistakes nothing too bad too all in a good race for me.

See you next week folks

Sounds like the race needs to be re-run with all the problems encountered  :whistling:

Yea, especially Legzy was lagging, couldn't overtake him... :P Well done for the win and too bad for those with problems.

+1

That is something I am considering. I may create a poll to see what drivers think. I will get back to everyone on this ASAP.

+1

Watching from the pit wall, the lag seemed quite bad to me for the first half of the race. Do any drivers feel that the race was ruined due to the lag/warping?

I managed to mess my race up all by myself, but yes I'd like to run this again please.

Well I was certainly delayed by MJ's lagging until he ran wide. I'd closed right up to Apextech who was showing as being in 2nd place on the tabs, but I was showing as 7th on xd and in the in-game positions so thought I had somehow been docked a lap after an error at the last chicane. I didn't want to try to unlap myself so that was the reason I quit only to hear that things had gone wonky in the timing.

well it certainly ruined my race! so yes id like it re-run. But then Legzy (who somehow blagged a win  ;) ) will be put out and the others who lucked in to a top 5 place.  :-\ Tough call, will go with whatever you decide naturally.  :)

Lag didn't affect my race, however in the interest of fairness as it did for most of the field then I will say yes to a re-race/.

I am asking as I am considering putting up a poll about rerunning the event but, I am just trying to figure out how bad the lag was at the moment. It looked bad to me but, that does not mean it looked that bad to everyone else.

there was only one bit of lag for me for a few seconds but wasn't a problem to me. the only issue i really noticed which may have been lag but I had no other cars near me to really see was the player gap times fluctuated greatly for a while but wasn't a major problem.

It would be nice to re-run it. I got hit by MJ's warpng car on the pace lap. I think it affected others in the first corner. Plus i lost time when h@L asked me to type in the chat to warn Mark!

I had a great qually to sneak 2nd spot & knew that to have a chance to win I'd need to use my Viper power to get past GoldTop's also pacey Lotus on lap one else the oportunity would be lost in a cloud of his dust. So applied all the presure I could through the first half lap & lucky for me he slightly messed up 2 corners in a row & I powered on past & saw Goldtop making another mistake in my rear-view as I guess he tried to get going again too quickly beofore losing too much ground.
It didn't take long before RoadRunner used his far supperior handling Z4 to catch me, but I knew I stood a good chance with my Vipers power advantage. We went at it for ages (till half distance maybe), never more than a car length apart till he made a mistake & went off track. I thought that I might now be able to engage cruise control but somehow TT caught me far too easily in his Porka & I was back in a close quarters scrap till about 3 laps from the end, as I continued to make full use of Viper Power.
I was completely knackered & chuffed to bits with my hard earned win 8)


p.s. I was close to other cars the whole race & didn't see a single warping car. The only issue I saw was from my 3rd party addon XD program, it was jumping peoples position around, but the ingame lap count etc remained fine throughout.

Tbh I never actually saw MJ in the race, the problems started for me when he left, lag started gettin worse n worse from everyone, then all the positions started to go wrong, even managed P10 out of 9 at one point, finally everyone disappeared for good, though it never actually said I'd been disco'd nobody had come back in 5 mins or so, so guessed I probably had been.

I don't use XD either :)

As for a rerun I'll go with whatever happens, though wouldnt say no to a reeun

The server was dodgy from the start. As soon as I joined I was shown as nsfast for about 5 seconds then his pit stall became mine. Then on the warm up lap h@ls car was warping in front of me and I ended up going nose first in the barrier to avoid rear ending him!
It's cost me badly in the champ as I dropped from 2nd to 7th or 8th  :(
But I would feel sorry for Legzy as he won the race on merit and hard work.

...but would he have beaten Dan? :-\

@MJ
Dan = RoadRunner

My race was not effected by lag. I was too far behind.  ;D My pain was entirely self inflicted.

I must admit I'm not in favour of a re-run. I'd prefer to go with the "bad luck evens out over of a season principle". Also one result is dropped anyway from the championship scores.

Yes, very true, I would have needed a pretty big mistake in the first couple of corners of the lap to get past and stay infront, something like 7-8 seconds lost. I was losing bout 3 seconds on the straight, just about made it up by the hairpin or chicane before it, so honestly i think unless he put his tyres through the shredder a few times it was Legzy's to win

keep it as it is then  :)  i know i would be spitting fire if i was robbed of a race win, let Legzy have his moment in the sun  :-*

Sadly im away for the next round too, so thats my championship aspirations totally fubared  :'(  unless you want to swap around the low entry LMP round for the GTC one  ;)

On reflection I'm also happy to let things stand as they are, but just disappointed that I lost out on what would have been an enjoyable race.

The final rounds should be very good fun (anyone else tried Buddh yet?  8) 8) 8)) and the championship at least is a bit closer at the front now  ;)

The current race result will stand.

There will be no rerun of this event.

The lag did not have a big enough affect on the race to warrant a rerun as best as I can tell.

We are not in the habit of rerunning events unless there is a very good reason. Its more work for me and not so good for some drivers if they can not be present on the rerun date, dont have time to put is as much practise on rerun date, for example, and many other potential issues.