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Title: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on March 17, 2013, 03:50:45 PM +0000
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/CroftHSCCSun-0364_zpscb3be39d.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/CroftHSCCSun-0364_zpscb3be39d.jpg.html)

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Go on GREEN light, after RED Caution, lights are at the front left, and are hard to see from the back of the grid
Practice: 19:20 (BST) (65 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ (24 laps)
Cars allowed: Triumph TR4, Austin Healey 3000 MK2, Ferrari 250 Berlinetta, Mini Cooper (ALL), Lotus Elite.

Track: Croft '07 Download and install this (http://www.matt-rowe.co.uk/comp/PGfiles/Croft07 v1_2 by motorfx.rar)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 20, 2013, 04:58:00 PM +0100
Wot? no complaints? So, the cars must be a perfect choice on the perfect track  ;D
Splendid, I must be getting good at this.  ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 20, 2013, 05:10:48 PM +0100
LOL

Sorry, been away a few days.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Hotkeys on April 20, 2013, 05:40:56 PM +0100
Oh yes, you are good at it Matt ;D

Just tried the whole bunch for a few laps, and they seem to be very well matched  :thumbup2:

If you wanna make the race 40 minutes long, I believe you need to make it 24 laps.

Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: NPP on April 21, 2013, 10:46:49 AM +0100
I have downloaded this and turned a few practice laps but then realised I'll be away at a conference next Thursday - no race for me this week either!

Hope you have fun!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 21, 2013, 12:25:42 PM +0100
24 Laps. Agreed. Done.  :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 21, 2013, 04:37:30 PM +0100
Berlinetta might have been a nice car if they had fitted brakes to it!

Have to start dragging my foot on the track before the marker posts are even visible!   ::)

Took me twenty minutes of practice before I could complete an out lap with a healthy car!



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: robiker on April 21, 2013, 09:37:03 PM +0100
Berlinetta might have been a nice car if they had fitted brakes to it!

Yeah, and the extra hard tires don't help much. Has a great-sounding engine though.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 21, 2013, 10:11:55 PM +0100
24 Laps. Agreed. Done.  :)


Nice number.  ;D

Means that I can set the tyre and fuel multiplyer to times anything but five and do an exact simulated race distance.  :thumbup2:

Many thanks.

EDIT:  Mind you, the tyres on the Ferrari would probably still be street legal if they ran from now until the same time next year!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 22, 2013, 08:45:07 PM +0100
I know that I'm being tedious but ...............................................

errrr..........the tarmac outside the white line between Jim Clarke Esses and Barcroft. .............. is it available for use or not? :whistling:

I find that the Ferrari needs all of it and the Lotus doesn't need any!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: goldtop on April 23, 2013, 12:05:27 AM +0100
I know that I'm being tedious but ...............................................

errrr..........the tarmac outside the white line between Jim Clarke Esses and Barcroft. .............. is it available for use or not? :whistling:

I find that the Ferrari needs all of it and the Lotus doesn't need any!

Neither does the mini  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 23, 2013, 10:30:01 AM +0100
I think I know where you mean, and my default answer is that any tarmac outside a white line
is track surface unless it means crossing a kerb when it needs a local ruling.


I will have a look later, but I would not expect to impose a limit.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Mark J on April 23, 2013, 01:26:31 PM +0100
vroom vroom  ;D

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/MJ_p911/CroftHSCCSun-0364_zpscb3be39d.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/MJ_p911/media/CroftHSCCSun-0364_zpscb3be39d.jpg.html)

Advert also posted at No-grip  :)

Not driven any of the cars here yet. Not even sure ive driven Croft? Certainly dont remember it, but thats not hard with my duff memory :P


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Hotkeys on April 23, 2013, 02:00:41 PM +0100
What a great picture you've found Mark, the Healey looks really mean in race-trim ;D

Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 24, 2013, 10:50:01 AM +0100
I had a look at the beyond white line places last night. I see no problem with using them as track
The only one I found a bit dodgy was in the 1st corner (chicane) but as long as you can get back
over it before the kerb it's more of a "run off area" than anything else.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: goldtop on April 24, 2013, 07:38:43 PM +0100
Was hoping to hop on the practice server later, but I can't see it in the lobby atm.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Hotkeys on April 24, 2013, 08:06:33 PM +0100
Be aware, that the starting lights on this track can only be seen at the front of the grid !


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 24, 2013, 09:34:19 PM +0100
Was hoping to hop on the practice server later, but I can't see it in the lobby atm.

Just been on it.   ???


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 24, 2013, 10:12:08 PM +0100
It said it couldn't broadcast to lobby, so i restarted it.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Mark J on April 25, 2013, 09:21:55 AM +0100
Not even installed the track yet  :(  will have to do some urgent laps before the race tonight! whats a ball-park decent laptime to aim for?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 25, 2013, 10:05:39 AM +0100
I think I was getting 1:47.1 could have been 1:41.7 though  ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Mogget on April 25, 2013, 10:52:06 AM +0100
It still says "GMT" in the first post. The correct practice start time is 18:20 GMT, or 19:20 BST.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Geoffers on April 25, 2013, 11:04:54 AM +0100
19:20 BST.

 :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Geoffers on April 25, 2013, 11:09:02 AM +0100
Not even installed the track yet  :(  will have to do some urgent laps before the race tonight! whats a ball-park decent laptime to aim for?

Only tried the TR4 & the Elite, 1.39s in both.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: goldtop on April 25, 2013, 04:59:54 PM +0100
Hardly any practice for this and still no idea what to drive. Oh and I'm veeeeeery slow in everything so far ::)

Edit: discovered the throttle on my CSPs was only reading around 80% full on (that would explain why Clive beat me in last nights MARA race  ;)). Switched the sensor with my clutch pedal and all seems well again although I'm still a bit off pace  :(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 25, 2013, 08:08:12 PM +0100
BST is correct. I keep forgetting to change the template.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Legzy on April 25, 2013, 09:37:20 PM +0100
Never driven here before & no time for practice, so expectation were low.

Stuck it about 7th on the grid surprisingly with a few mins still to go, but decided that the opening corner sequence was a recipe for Lap 1 Turn 1 carnage, so exited out to start in safety on the back row.
Found my way up to 7th quite easily & without too much event, thought MJ might put up more resistance but seems his barks worse than his bite these days... :P.
Hotkeys was comfortably faster, but kept falling off. So that was it really, a solid enough drive for a steady 7th :).

See you next week,
Chris

p.s. Big thanks to Animal Ed, he's taken up the challenge & joined Team Oldie. So look out you fellas with the soggy bottoms, we're coming to get ya! (that didn't come out quite how I meant ;))


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: phspok on April 25, 2013, 09:48:19 PM +0100
Results and Replay Posted



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Alex vV on April 25, 2013, 09:57:41 PM +0100

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/GTR2_croft07_2013_4_25_20_47/)



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Mark J on April 25, 2013, 10:14:30 PM +0100
didnt expect much from this event and didnt get it! Never raced here before and hadnt managed any laps praccy until this eve so had to learn a track and a car in short time. My worst prep yet for a P&G3 race  :(
Took the F250 but in hindsight i should have gone for something more nippy and agile.

Managed to creep into the 41's in race but the car was an accident waiting to happen at nearly every corner. I didnt feel like i could race anyone and it was all about car management. Inevitably i ran out of luck, patience and skill with a few laps remaining, got a wheel on the grass out of one of the faster corners, put me into a sideways slide and into the tyre barriers quite hard. Broken suspension, race over  :'(

Was 8th or 9th at the time. Didnt like this track much, too many tight corners.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Animal Ed on April 26, 2013, 07:34:53 AM +0100
That wasn`t acording to plan. First with shortened race from 24 to 22 laps - I just love those last laps when tires are off and level of concentration is low ... plus after finish I had fuel for 5 more laps.

I had bad start because lights was shimmering and I understood that green is on only after guys in front of me launch themselves, but I lost only one place so it was not that bad after all. My strategy was to stay close to Clive, put some pressure but mainly to preserve tires for last laps hooray. And in 17th lap, last corner, my gearbox refused to engage 2nd gear. Went deep and lost full second in that last corner. Than trying too hard to get close resulted with even slower lap times - when I gave up in last lap, I was in 39s again ... too late.

Overall, it was a good race and some decent points for Team Oldie.
For next race is car choice that I love and racetrack that I hate ... I need better plan to destroy...
Plan of course.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: SuperSWIFT on April 26, 2013, 09:43:22 AM +0100
So I wasn’t the only one who started the Q session without training…

The track I knew from a previous NoGrip race organized by Geoffers. As a Triumph fanatic, I had to choose the TR4 off course ;)  I used a set-up (nothing special) from a previous race at Goodwood and hoped for the best. That turned out not too bad, with a 5th grid position.

At the start, due to engines revving etc, I bogged down my engine and had a slow start. But fortunately for me, I wasn’t the only one as I could grab 3th spot and even 2nd before Geoffers took back that position from me. After a couple of laps I had a “moment” and made a nice 360 pirouette just after the first chicane and continued in 6th position, just behind frex’ Ferrari. A nice cat-and-mouse game went on for a couple of laps before I could overtake and grab the 5th position. The second half of the race was a lot less interesting as I didn’t meet other racers, except for Alex who kindly let me pass in the last corner before the finish flag.

Grats to podium and see you next race!




Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: frex on April 26, 2013, 11:21:55 AM +0100
Realised in qually i had mis-read the car selection options (oops), but at least i knew which way the track went. Quickly changed to the Ferrari 250 GTB for a brief but enjoyable few laps. It's a little cumbersome for my tastes (prefer the nimbler cars usually), but was good fun and not doing too badly until i misjudged a corner entry, bounced over a kerb and hit a barrier hard.

Congrats podium.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: goldtop on April 26, 2013, 03:57:35 PM +0100
Was a bit rushed after making running repairs to my pedals so didn't really have a chance to try all the cars properly. I chose the Elite which turned out to be a bad choice and resulted in a very drab race for me. No hope of catching anything in that and a sitting duck on the straights  ::)

Well done teamie Geoffers for the win  8)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Clive Loynes on April 26, 2013, 06:22:07 PM +0100
I got off the line reasonably but nowhere near as fast as John in his Healey.

I pulled alongside Geoffers on the way to T1 but realised that being on the outside of the first bit was always going to put me at a disadvantage.  So I backed off and concentrated on not hitting him.

That gave SuperSwift the chance to mug me as we approached the sharp right and he went on to perform a fairly agricultural pass of Geoffers with a reasonable exchange of paint, door handles and hubcaps.  The technique was not lost on Geoffers as he returned the compliment at Tower on the same lap.

Geoffers set off after John and I was left to find a way past SS, with the Aged Ed in close company.

When SS spun out I was able to have a go at catching John and Geoffers up ahead, who were having a monumental battle from what I could see.

I arrived just too late to give John any assistance as Geoffers made good his escape at the very corner that I came within range.  I concentrated on staying with John without hitting him until he eventually eased away.  This probably gave me a bit of a tow, which helped to put a bit of air between me and the rapidly aging Ed.

Good result for SBRC.

Congratulations to Geoffers and John.

I thought the cars were a good match and well suited for the track.



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 British Historic Cup - Croft - Apr 25
Post by: Geoffers on April 26, 2013, 08:49:21 PM +0100
Clive pretty well summed up the race there.

Got a lousy start, as it seemed did most of the field except John, & got passed by SuperSwift at T2. At Tower SuperSwift braked a bit earlier than I expected & I braked a bit later than I intended which resulted in a bit of a block-pass. Apologies for being a bit forceful SS.

Caught up with John after a couple of laps & we had a great tussle for several laps. The TR was much better in the corners but the Healey had the legs on the straights. Would have liked to have diced a bit longer but Clive was closing in so I had to try & make a break for it. First time it went wrong as I got a bit eager on the throttle at the hairpin & got a bit sideways allowing John back ahead. Second time I got it right & made the pass into the Complex & got far enough ahead that the Healey couldn't repass on the straight.

Managed to ease away & take the win. :)

Congrats to John & Clive  :clap: :clap:
Cya all at Brno