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Title: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 05, 2013, 07:35:34 PM +0100
*** This will be using the Simbin lobby ***
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Race Start : After The REDS count up then GO ON GREEN

Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ (17 laps)
Cars allowed: Pantera Modena, Porche RSR 2.8, GT40 Mk1, Porche 906-8, Cobra 427, Shelby Daytona.

Track: Silverstone 2011 Download and install this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/downloads/s3.php/gtr2/tracks/SRou_GTR2_Silverstone_2011_1.0.1.0.exe)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

Server: simracing.org.uk P8SC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship Standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=380&theme=34)

Notes:
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(4) Watch our for pit lane speeding, some tracks support this.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 16, 2013, 10:49:54 AM +0100
If anyone gets time to test these cars here and post some times for all of them it would help
for me to firm up the availale cars  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: SpecialKS on May 16, 2013, 07:35:22 PM +0100
Will miss this one due to holiday absence  :D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 25, 2013, 10:12:26 AM +0100
If anyone gets time to test these cars here and post some times for all of them it would help
for me to firm up the availale cars  ;)


Think I did a 2:28 something in the 427, holding the wheel between thumb and forefinger and wearing very thick socks!

Sheesh but it's a sensitive animal!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Hotkeys on May 25, 2013, 11:14:18 AM +0100
If anyone gets time to test these cars here and post some times for all of them it would help
for me to firm up the availale cars  ;)


Think I did a 2:28 something in the 427, holding the wheel between thumb and forefinger and wearing very thick socks!

Sheesh but it's a sensitive animal!

Appr. 2 secs faster than Clive in the Panterra. The 911 2.8 seems way too slow here ...... for me anyway  ;D


Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Mark J on May 25, 2013, 11:41:30 AM +0100
I'm away on hols for this one, have fun chaps  :). Means legz could finish one place higher than recently too  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Mogget on May 26, 2013, 07:05:55 PM +0100
This one looks like another GT40 race for me, or possibly the Shelby Daytona.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 26, 2013, 09:29:27 PM +0100
If anyone gets time to test these cars here and post some times for all of them it would help
for me to firm up the availale cars  ;)


Think I did a 2:28 something in the 427, holding the wheel between thumb and forefinger and wearing very thick socks!

Sheesh but it's a sensitive animal!

Appr. 2 secs faster than Clive in the Panterra. The 911 2.8 seems way too slow here ...... for me anyway  ;D


Stig

for me the two Porsches are probably the fastest; I'm doing your Pantera times in the 2.8 (but I'm not any faster in the Pantera). I struggled with the Shelbies, and I never got along with the GT40.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Geoffers on May 26, 2013, 10:45:53 PM +0100
Mmmm, just tried the Pantera with race setup I used at Brno, 2.21.0 after 3 laps. Anyone else anywhere near that, if not I'll try something slower.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 27, 2013, 07:17:47 AM +0100
Mmmm, just tried the Pantera with race setup I used at Brno, 2.21.0 after 3 laps. Anyone else anywhere near that, if not I'll try something slower.

I already suspected I wasn't trying hard enough! Some more practice required it seems. At least I know the circuit now - the old GPL one was so easy to learn, this one has so many more corners to remember.

Does anyone else take a childish pleasure in sending the marker poles flying?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Animal Ed on May 27, 2013, 07:53:07 AM +0100
I`m not at home for the race but couldn`t resist to spin some laps ...

Pantera and 906/8 - 2:20 something in race trim, low 2:19 with race fuel and soft tires

911 2,8 - 2:23,3 monster trough fast corners but loses everything gained before on Hangar straight

Shelby Daytona - 2:24 but I did only 4 laps with almost default setup. Posible to shave some more time with refined setup.

Cobra - 2:25 ... too much understeer and realy hard to put the power down, actually feels like big and heavy car probably because of bad brakes and heavy engine.

GT40 - don`t know , was never good in that car


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 27, 2013, 07:32:03 PM +0100
I'm trying to connect to the server but it won't let me - I can join other servers so probably it's not a problem at my end. Any ideas?

Edited to add: running off-line, I've got the 906 down to 2:20.98 - still a way off Animal Ed's time. I can't get anywhere near that in any of the other cars (so please don't ban it, as other people seem to manage similar times in the Pantera).


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 27, 2013, 09:05:31 PM +0100
I can't join the server either.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 28, 2013, 09:33:35 AM +0100
I am away, do we still have a server problem? or was it just that the server was offline for the GTL event?

It is unlikely that anything will get banned so close to an event. I only ban things
if my testing times are way out for a particular car. Different people being faster in different
cars is the main point of what we try to achieve (though it doesn't always work.)  :whistling:  

I have started putting Provisional in the car list until the week before the race
so I can "legally" change stuff without a court case  ;)



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 28, 2013, 11:56:12 AM +0100
the server was visible in the lobby, clicking on it would bring up the password field, but hitting 'enter' or clicking the green arrow would have no effect. I can't check now because I'm on a different machine.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 28, 2013, 12:38:23 PM +0100
Looks to me as though the 906 and Pantera are in one race and the Cobra, GT40 and Shelby are in another.

The 906 and Pantera seem much quicker than the others, which is a shame as I don't enjoy driving them much.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 28, 2013, 12:47:59 PM +0100
I have restarted the server,  shout up if it's still an issue please


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 28, 2013, 12:50:12 PM +0100
I have restarted the server,  shout up if it's still an issue please

Had I not done that after last nights GTL?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 28, 2013, 12:53:38 PM +0100
You had, but people are saying they can't connect, so I restarted it again


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Mogget on May 28, 2013, 03:42:43 PM +0100
I would expect to be able to get at least a 2:22 out of the standard GT40 with race fuel, but it's difficult to know for sure without any practice. I managed high 2:18s in the Gulf car in a WSL race earlier this year, and I am usually 2 or 3 seconds quicker in that car than the standard one.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 28, 2013, 09:53:19 PM +0100
It was simracing-UK-MIX that I couldn't connect to.  The proper one wasn't visible.

Can now see correct server and connect to it but still can't connect to simracing-UK-MIX, whatever that is.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 29, 2013, 09:05:03 AM +0100
That is my practice server. I have it running one race in advance when it's up.
I will have a look at it

EDIT: Seem ok, could someone try to connect to -MIX to test it, thanks.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: seniordan on May 29, 2013, 02:39:21 PM +0100
Not really a sabbatical..........

Gents,
During spring and summer there are traditionally a lot of other things I have to attend to so I won't be around much. Whenever possible I'll jump in and join in the fun,though.
 
See you on track (occasionally).

(senior)Dan :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Walter Conn on May 29, 2013, 02:39:29 PM +0100
I had a nice practice session with the Pantera. My lap times are in the 2:26's at the moment. I just hope that I am fast enough to mix it up with the back markers.  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Mogget on May 29, 2013, 08:17:42 PM +0100
A quick test of the GT40 netted a fastest lap of 2:22.7 with 80L in the tank (50 per cent fuel load).


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 29, 2013, 09:57:25 PM +0100
A quick test of the GT40 netted a fastest lap of 2:22.7 with 80L in the tank (50 per cent fuel load).

How do you get that thing round corners?

I'll probably go for the 906 and crash, or the 911, enjoy myself, and finish towards the bottom of the midfield.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Hotkeys on May 30, 2013, 07:21:17 PM +0100
I don't see the server running  ???

I do see the simracing UK-mix running Mexico 67, but I can't join that one either

Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: johnw on May 30, 2013, 08:52:19 PM +0100
My turn for a disco this week then. Managed all of two corners :-[


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Mogget on May 30, 2013, 09:01:37 PM +0100
I had strange problems in qualifying and the race. I couldn't get the car hooked up properly in qualifying, and then when the race started, I noticed that the wheel was incredibly stiff. I could hardly turn it at all! That resulted in a spin on the first lap, and I quickly pressed ESC to avoid causing a disaster :(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Legzy on May 30, 2013, 09:14:27 PM +0100
A reminder why I don't drive Pork & should never drive Pork. ::)

Had decent race pace & was up to forth as I edged alongside/past GT, but as i did so, after only 4 laps my rear end just wanted to overtake me at two of the corners despite not pushing hard from there on in.
I quit in disgust >:( (though I don't know why it cam as a surprise :laugh:).

I was kind of a bit stuck for car choice mind, faced with yet another race in a Pantera, either carp Porka or a couple of cement blocks with a rocket attached to them. :-X

Big time looking forward to some Fezza Vs Jag Vs Lotus action next week 8)



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Hotkeys on May 30, 2013, 09:17:53 PM +0100
Probably my worst race ever ....... . Not only did I suck bad, I was also bored  :-\
I might as well start my summer-pause now.

Stig


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 30, 2013, 09:42:24 PM +0100
(...) spin on the first lap, and I quickly pressed ESC to avoid causing a disaster :(

I saw that from right behind you, and was glad you suddenly vanished - thanks!

Otherwise, a boring race. I qualified fifth in the 911, decided to take a very cautious approach at the start and consequently lost at least three places. Then Mogget went off, Legzy conveniently tackled Frex off the track, and then spun dicing with Goldtop. Thus I was back in fifth, but I knew I would be unable to catch Goldtop who is much faster than me normally. He flagged a bit mid-race and I could get within a second, but then I lost concentration and tyres and had to focus on keeping ahead of Frex which in the end I did. So the only positive thing is that I finished; made way too many mistakes though.

Congrats to Geoffers and his companions on the podium!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 30, 2013, 10:13:36 PM +0100
Results and Replay Posted


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Alessandro Tancioni on May 30, 2013, 10:38:52 PM +0100
amazing race. The Pantera Modena is very difficult to drive for me.
Howerer, in qualy i surprised a lot for my timelap...faster than ever! Tha car was genuine and gently to drive during the first and second lap. so i managed the  third position.
luckily, at the start of the race, thanks a good launch, i passed jarda. he had a good step.
unfortunately, due a little mistake ,i preferred to be passed by jarda, because i was not sure about my race pace.
I finish 3 very happily. cu
my wroten english is very bad. i m afraid for this
i will write my opinion of the race also in italian, so when manteos will connect to observe the result, maybe he will traslate it for me.
cu next
ciaoooooooo


Bellissima gara. La pantera modena รจ dura da guidare. Comunque , anche questa volta sono riuscito a concludere la gara in maniera soddisfacente. durante le qualy , mi sono stupito dal tempo che ho fatto.
2.21 basso non lo avevo mai fatto neanche da lontano, e sorprendentemente mi sono ritrovato al 3 posto.
in gara, grazie ad una buona partenza sono riuscito a sorpassare jarda e a dargli del filo da torcere per gran parte della gara. ma a causa di un mio errore, lui si era avvicinato molto a me. vedevo che ne aveva un pochino piu di me. ho scelto di farlo passare. Sono partito subito alla sua rincorsa e all'ultimo giro ero quasi riuscito a prenderlo. Mi sono divertito moltissimo. Alla prossima. ciao


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Clive Loynes on May 31, 2013, 07:11:52 AM +0100
No worries Alessandro, we got the message and it is very good of you to attempt english.  It still baffles me!

I could manage reasonable times in the Pantera but never felt fully in control of it.  So during the course of the day I resolved to have another look at the GT40.  Started practice straight after dinner and before I knew it it was time for qually.

I was steadier in the GT40 but dog slow.

The theory was that the GT40 tyres would last the distance because they were naff in the first place but this didn't happen.  I waited and waited as the laps rolled by to see signs of the Pantera drivers hitting tyre problems but that didn't happen either!

Just don't get on with these cars and Silverstone is now an awful mess.  If we are racing old cars can we not stick to the old tracks that they were built for?

Let GTR2 have all the new stuff.

Grats to Geoffers, Alessandro and Jarda.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: NPP on May 31, 2013, 07:52:26 AM +0100
If we are racing old cars can we not stick to the old tracks that they were built for?

I would second the call for more period tracks. There is a GPL Silverstone, plus an early 70s and a 79 version, all close to the classic layout (fewer corners and thus less difficult to remember for the older racers). I would love to have a race there some day. There's a 60s Oulton which we could have used instead of the modern one, there was a GPL Sebring and so on.

That said, the most important thing for me is that we have the races at all, and please take this as a suggestion rather than a criticism.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 31, 2013, 09:03:50 AM +0100
Alessandro. as Clive said your english is "unusual" but understandable, no need to get Matteo to translate  :thumbup1:

I concur about period tracks, I just went for it for a bit of variety.
I pick tracks that I think will make for a good race with the cars I am planning for, it is limiting enough to find tracks where cars run
similar times without having to further limit to Period tracks only.
When I ran Oulton, I think I ran the traditional layout rather than the nasty one with the chicanes.
I do agree about Silverstone though, it has become messy. We won't run that version again.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: goldtop on May 31, 2013, 09:57:06 AM +0100
Well I must be a bit strange because I like pork and this version of Silverstone  :)

Had a decent start and was able to keep the Pantera's in sight for a couple of laps, but then had Legzy all over me. We almost came together at Stowe as I ran too deep into the corner, but then we tangled through T1 sending me flying across the run out area and Legzy coming off worst as he spun out behind me. I'd call it a racing incident but if you felt otherwise, please let me know   :angel:

With the Panteras by now already off in the distance, I had to get my head down to keep NPP a safe distance behind. Was a bit worried at one point and had to convince myself he was on softs and would not be able to keep up the pace.....well it worked for me at the time  ;) Was also hoping that the Panteras would come back to me as their tyres faded, but that never really happened and I had to eventually settle for 4th.

Congrats to Geoffers and pody  8)



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: johnw on May 31, 2013, 10:00:13 AM +0100
Oh dear, looks like us Soggies have some catching up to do in this league. How long is this season, by the way?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: phspok on May 31, 2013, 10:21:27 AM +0100
The seasons typically last for the year, or most of it. If I get a new "good idea" (or someone gives me one) one or more series might
be announced as "This is the final event" and something new will start up in it's place.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Alex vV on May 31, 2013, 10:21:58 AM +0100
Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/GTR2_11silverstone_2013_5_30_20_48/)

Thought I just go for a nice stable platform for this race and chose the 906... Boy, I was wrong...
Nervous twitchy understeery, snap oversteer car fit for aliens but not for a 'Gentleman Driver' like me  :-[

First time I simraced the new version of Silverstone. Nicely rendered track with lots a blind corners and brows.
If the circuit is something like this in reality then it's quite a challenge I guess.

Congrats to Geoffers and the Pantera squad. Shame the GT40's both had disco's.




Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: frex on May 31, 2013, 11:20:10 AM +0100
After the first couple of laps i was left in P6 and could see Neils and GT up ahead in the distance. Spent the whole race trying to close them down, but was still just over a second behind Neils at the finish.

A shame i was not a bit closer earlier on as it could have been a nice three way RSR battle.

Congrats Geoff and podium.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Geoffers on May 31, 2013, 11:34:36 AM +0100
Good result for me but a bit of a lonely race, I will take something a bit slower next time & hopefully have a bit of a dice.
Used the same basic setup I had for Brno with a couple of tweeks that made the car a bit easier to drive but not really any faster. Tried to drive conservatively & not push too hard, only made one real mistake when I got into the Club Chicane a bit too hot & only just managed to save a spin. Shame John & Mogg had technical probs, probably my turn next time!

Congrats to Jarda & Alessandro  :clap: :clap:, I'm not here next week, so cya all at Keimola.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Walter Conn on May 31, 2013, 01:04:06 PM +0100
It was a good race, but I was sad to see other people have bad luck.

I chose the Pantera because I did not think that I would be quick enough in the 911, or good enough to drive the 906. I made a few changes to make the car easier to drive, and I was able to finish in 7th place.

This layout of Silverstone took a while to learn, but I enjoy it all the same. There are enough corners to make it fun for the 911's. 

Thanks, Walter


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: Legzy on May 31, 2013, 08:21:00 PM +0100
... but then had Legzy all over me. We almost came together at Stowe as I ran too deep into the corner, but then we tangled through T1 sending me flying across the run out area and Legzy coming off worst as he spun out behind me. I'd call it a racing incident but if you felt otherwise, please let me know   :angel:
No definitely just a racing incident from where I was sat, as was the contact between Frex & me (I believe) :angel:

I have no objection to running some good modern tracks in the old cars, they have to race there these days in classic meets after all. This was my first go on the new Silverstone, I actually thought it was alright (though not exciting) & definitely worth the try, it was just the stupid car I'd chosen that I'd like to ban! :laugh:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 8 Sports Car Series - Silverstone - May 30
Post by: frex on May 31, 2013, 11:07:36 PM +0100
just a racing incident from where I was sat, as was the contact between Frex & me (I believe)

With regard to our incident that's a fair comment - i saw it the same way.