SimRacing.org.uk

UKGPL => UKGPL Races => Topic started by: BadBlood on May 07, 2013, 10:55:27 PM +0100



Title: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: BadBlood on May 07, 2013, 10:55:27 PM +0100
Staying at Spa but this time in the CanAm beasts.

Spa Francorchamps 67 ( papy) winds through the Belgian countryside and offers some unique challenges for the driver. Eau Rouge, Malmedy and Masta where both car and driver can gain time or suffer serious damage by being just slightly offline. Long straights favour the big cars but there are enough corners for the more nimble to stay in the hunt.

Remember that you will have to chose a different car for this race and by now your choice is becoming limited.


"Please ensure you are aware of the new in-series penalties for this season. Details are here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10879.0). Drivers incurring a penalty will receive a PM informing them of this."


Race listiGOR
ServerTBA
IP addressTBA
Date10-05-2013
Race timeRace starts at 09:30 UK time
Qualifying timeBetween 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
TrackSpa Francorchamps (Papy)
ModCan Am 71
Damage modelINT (Each driver is allowed a single Shift-R)
Race length15 laps
ReplayAvailable here (ftp://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/Replays/Archive/Season23/GTs/)

  [/quote]

RED ZONE WILL BE FROM START TO EXIT OF STAVELOT ON LAP 1


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: fpolicardi on May 08, 2013, 11:28:47 AM +0100
Lazy Paul, he dragged and dropped even the quote from previous race ;D
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Cookie on May 08, 2013, 12:44:55 PM +0100
UKGPL_8 will be ready for 15 laps with an extra wide tested ;) grid at 20:45 UK


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 08, 2013, 04:36:13 PM +0100
Remember that you will have to chose a different car for this race and by now your choice is becoming limited.

THE McLAREN M8 COUNTS AS A SINGLE CAR CHOICE, YOU CANNOT DRIVE THE M8B IN ONE RACE AND THE M8D IN ANOTHER AND HOPE THAT THEY COUNT AS DIFFERENT CARS.

Help. How many cars are the following.

McLaren M8B, McLaren M8D and McLaren M8F; one two or three????

Lola T260 and Lola T222; one or two????


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: clouds on May 08, 2013, 05:36:09 PM +0100
WOW Oh nOOoOooOo I didn't have noticed this constraint !!!
Damn so who have used a McLaren also if M8B will be not granted to use the M8D or M8F !?!?!?!?

Please confirm or deny this stuff otherwise several ppl wil have to change car the last second before the green flag  :-\ :P :P :P

Remember that you will have to chose a different car for this race and by now your choice is becoming limited.

THE McLAREN M8 COUNTS AS A SINGLE CAR CHOICE, YOU CANNOT DRIVE THE M8B IN ONE RACE AND THE M8D IN ANOTHER AND HOPE THAT THEY COUNT AS DIFFERENT CARS.

Help. How many cars are the following.

McLaren M8B, McLaren M8D and McLaren M8F; one two or three????

Lola T260 and Lola T222; one or two????

Maybe I've not understood very well or maybe none said the McLarens M8 and/or the Lolas have to be considered the same car !


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: john roberts on May 08, 2013, 05:51:41 PM +0100
THE McLAREN M8 COUNTS AS A SINGLE CAR CHOICE, YOU CANNOT DRIVE THE M8B IN ONE RACE AND THE M8D IN ANOTHER AND HOPE THAT THEY COUNT AS DIFFERENT CARS.

just to say when it comes to physics the M8C/E , M8D and M8F are different .

john





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: DLogan on May 08, 2013, 06:15:49 PM +0100
...Remember that you will have to chose a different car for this race and by now your choice is becoming limited.

THE McLAREN M8 COUNTS AS A SINGLE CAR CHOICE, YOU CANNOT DRIVE THE M8B IN ONE RACE AND THE M8D IN ANOTHER AND HOPE THAT THEY COUNT AS DIFFERENT CARS.

Uh? Did I miss this announcement in the series page or any of the previous race posts?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: maddog on May 08, 2013, 06:26:17 PM +0100
It does seem a teensy bit odd, when all the cars behave differently.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 08, 2013, 06:28:00 PM +0100
Uh? Did I miss this announcement in the series page or any of the previous race posts?

No it was spelt out in the series registration page as follows

There will probably be a free car choice, but drivers must use a different chassis for each race. that means you will use 5 different GT cars and 5 different Can Am cars through the whole 10 race series.

However, as a motorcyclist they are all the same to me, wa......s . Seriously I'm just after confirmation so I don't turn up in the wrong beast on Friday.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: clouds on May 08, 2013, 07:13:20 PM +0100
Please write it in big chars if we may use different car models of a certain brand or we must choose a different brand ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: DLogan on May 08, 2013, 07:21:55 PM +0100
...No it was spelt out in the series registration page as follows

There will probably be a free car choice, but drivers must use a different chassis for each race. that means you will use 5 different GT cars and 5 different Can Am cars through the whole 10 race series....

The McLarens ARE different chassis. If they're the "same", why are there separate WRs and ranks for each?

If the McLarens are the "same", then the Lolas are, too? What about the Fords and Chaparrals in the GTs?

This is a mid-season rule change, not a "clarification", IMO.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Cookie on May 08, 2013, 07:31:22 PM +0100
OUPS

For me the 3 McLarens are total different cars too, so I would have broken the rules allready...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: EvilClive on May 08, 2013, 08:16:32 PM +0100
Just got in from work and it seems I have poked my stick into a hornets's nest.

OOPs!!  Whoa !!

Ok guys. This was not intended as a mid season rule change, but more a gentle reminder of the need to use different cars.

I had not realised that the Mclarens were actually totally different cars with different handling/performance  etc. I really thought they were simply different skins on the same chassis, so maybe I should have done some deeper research.

For that oversight I apologise.

THEREFORE, I HAVE AMENDED THE RACE POST AND REMOVED THE CONTENTIOUS LINE.

I hope this clears up any confusion and settles any worries  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: maddog on May 08, 2013, 09:28:52 PM +0100
 :w00t: :ban: :taz: :wacko: :hammer:  ;D . . . . . . All right lads, it's back to the hive!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Mark Jones on May 09, 2013, 09:14:19 AM +0100

...Curses.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: BadBlood on May 09, 2013, 10:19:14 AM +0100
Ah - mea culpa, mea MAXIMA culpa.

When you post a race it helpfully gives you the last post as well. Normally you delete this quote. As Fulvio said, I lazily posted the lot. May have had something to do with the multiple Peroni's that Mr NoBrakes forced on me after work ;)

I'll go and check the Novices post now...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: garethhall on May 10, 2013, 02:46:49 PM +0100
can i come and play?? he he

 ;D




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: BadBlood on May 10, 2013, 03:08:27 PM +0100
YES


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: EvilClive on May 10, 2013, 10:30:57 PM +0100
Grats to Sky on a dominant win and to all those who managed  to actually race around Spa.

After upsetting a whole load of you over the Mclaren post, I then proceeded to spoil the race itself by using one of those M8f's!!  I think I now know what the "F" stands for  ::)

I still need to do some serious off line practice with these beasts to find out how to drive them. Sorry to anyone who got involved with a large orange thing that wobbled around Spa. I think GPL decided that I was a danger to shipping at about half distance and after a few trips into the armco and scenery. It knocked out 2 cylinders leaving me in cruise mode and safely behind just about everyone.

The "F" stands for "Ferocious" of course  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: s2173 on May 10, 2013, 10:50:55 PM +0100
   Well, I'm damn suprised to get both pole and win... It seemed like Clouds had some problems joining, and thats a shame - he would otherwise wipe the floor with everyone, since obviously he was the only one who practiced for that track.

  I even didnt plan to race....but when i turned Igor on, I found I have enough time to join and I did so, since i love spa... changed some random things in a setup that was previously twitchy as hell, equalised the rollbars abit, this and that... And suddenly on my first timed lap I broke the 3.00, which i have never done before. After some more laps i did a 2.56, and that was pole who knows why...

When the race started, I regreted being first, because I couldn't see the flag with my narrow fov...i had to look left and try to drive straight at the same time, and it was not suprising that three people passed me before eau rouge, which seemed abit unsafe frankly... then, at the les combes turn, one car of those ahead started warping and spinning at the same time at several places at once...I hit it and stopped completely, but when I continued, only Ronnie was ahead... And at La Cariere he also went off, which got me back to first.

My setup was a bit wobbly still and I did half of the corners wrong, but never had a spin or a off... which couldnt be said about the cars behind, so I did 15 laps at my terrible pace and ended up winning... meh.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: clouds on May 10, 2013, 10:57:25 PM +0100
I wasn't able to pass from Eau Rouge a single time because of 5 or 6 CTD and after the last one, while I was waiting the restart of my PC, the race has been started without me...I was too late ! :P :( Damn PC, damn Windows, damn GPL damn all and damn me that I still waste my time with these stuff !

Grats to the podium guys.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Mark Jones on May 10, 2013, 11:43:20 PM +0100
then, at the les combes turn, one car of those ahead started warping and spinning at the same time at several places at once

I think that was me.  Some internet connection issues cropped up at some very bad moments during the race leading to some warping at exactly the worst moments to have any warping.  Very very sorry to everyone, especially Dean and Al.  :(   :(    Car felt good, but all for nothing.  The server lost me in the warp on lap 5 or so, so I'm classified 13th and disconnected, but I did soldier on and finished just ahead of JonnyO.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Al Heller on May 10, 2013, 11:54:38 PM +0100
Got lucky through the lap 1 pile up & found myself up to 3rd behind Sky. With so many drivers behind delayed with resets & stop'n'go's, me & Ronnie were shaping up to have our own big battle over the podium, when suddenly without warning I got splattered into oblivion by Mark's car that seemingly teleported in from nowhere! I initially assumed that because of the terrible mirrors in the M8F, I'd simply not noticed Mark was right behind but then I realised I hadn't even heard his car or noticed him closing in on Prib either... thought I was going mad until I watched my replay:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aPhBnW4X16g/UY1v8F1_I9I/AAAAAAAAAUI/d8Tqgyt7TsM/s1600/spa_montage.jpg)

In pic 1, there's nobody around for miles but note how in pic 2 Mark has sneakily beamed in to a nearby field, then in pic 3 serenely passes through a fence & then sadly ploughs into me. Not sure if Mark lost sight of me & Ronnie too? A quick look at the server replay shows he got dropped for quite a while so I guess it was down to connection issues. Gutted to lose out on a really strong chance for a podium though - never seem to get the luck in GT's. Well done to Sky, Ronnie & Dean.   




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Al Heller on May 11, 2013, 12:01:21 AM +0100
I think that was me.  Some internet connection issues cropped up at some very bad moments during the race leading to some warping at exactly the worst moments to have any warping.  Very very sorry to everyone, especially Dean and Al.  :(   :(    Car felt good, but all for nothing.  The server lost me in the warp on lap 5 or so, so I'm classified 13th and disconnected, but I did soldier on and finished just ahead of JonnyO.

No problem Mark - I had the rural internet connection from hell last year so I know what it's like when it goes wonky.

(I hardly dare mention that I crashed again later in the race when you warped across the track right into my path...  :ninja:)   



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 11, 2013, 12:49:45 AM +0100
Nice to see you winning, Sky, grats!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Mark Jones on May 11, 2013, 06:00:32 AM +0100
(I hardly dare mention that I crashed again later in the race when you warped across the track right into my path...  )


Ahhh, nuts.


(Funnily enough, in my reply it's you sneakily charging through the fence and into my Shadow)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: kinghiro on May 11, 2013, 10:23:48 AM +0100
I had a fantastic stable car with help from John and was ambitious after actually doing a bit of practice as well. 3:57 blank descent enough qual.
I was very close to sneak away from t3 havoc but just got kicked round from a car that span backwards or something. Waited for all other cars to pass but other spinners didn t want to wait that long.  The result was that one car that had to avoid the rejoin went off and hit me. Again I was flipped backwards. Frustration caught me and the rest of the race was a sad joke from my side .
gz Sky and podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 11, 2013, 11:09:25 AM +0100
(I hardly dare mention that I crashed again later in the race when you warped across the track right into my path...  )


Ahhh, nuts.


(Funnily enough, in my reply it's you sneakily charging through the fence and into my Shadow)

If you're lagging a lot, it's normal that from your point of view, everyone else would be lagging badly. That's how it is.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: BadBlood on May 13, 2013, 12:03:43 PM +0100
No wonder Mark's car is the Shadow.... lurking in the dark eh?  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: EvilClive on May 20, 2013, 10:12:50 PM +0100
geeeez!! this server replay is humungous!!! :o

I don't know if my hard disk is big enough for this...I might have to use 2 x 5.25" floppy discs




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Sports Car Trophy - Spa - May 10
Post by: Cookie on May 21, 2013, 11:08:47 AM +0100
geeeez!! this server replay is humungous!!! :o

I don't know if my hard disk is big enough for this...I might have to use 2 x 5.25" floppy discs


LOL

You would need 378 x 5.25" floppy discs! - 320 KB each..

My first 5,25" IBM HDD had 10 MB ;D was heavy as a todays complete PC and sounded like a turbine...