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Title: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: BadBlood on May 14, 2013, 12:02:06 PM +0100 UKGPL Season 24 Extra Trophy (69X)
Race 8 Bridgehampton Welcome to the eighth round of the Extra Trophy for 69 Extra chassis. Bridgehampton. Not one we have used much. The circuit opened in 1957, following a series of road races held from 1949 until 1953. It was one of the first permanent road racing venues in the United States, opening after Thompson Speedway, two years after Road America, the year after Watkins Glen International, and the same year as Lime Rock Park and Laguna Seca Raceway. In its early years, Bridgehampton was host to major international series, including the World Sportscar Championship, Can-Am, and NASCAR Grand National. By the early 1970s, the track was used mostly for amateur events, and closed permanently in 1998. The first lap will be fully moderated within the red zone. The red zone will extend to the exit of turn 11 ('the Light Bulb') In line with 'In-Series' penalties, Piero Mercaldo is excluded from qualifying for the next race he enters. Please check the Season 24 pages for details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=386&theme=6) regarding rules and the Extra Trophy (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=395&theme=6) pages in particular. It is very important that drivers are FULLY familiar with the rules relating to Shift-R. ONLY ONE IS ALLOWED and a Shift-R MUST be followed by a Stop-and-Go or the driver will be excluded. Any driver taking multiple resets will be excluded. If two servers are required they will be as below but if only one grid is required, we will race on T7.
Reserve drivers please note; you must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 10 minutes, to allow full timers to join. FULL TIME DRIVERS GET PRIORITY. Heavy and Light drivers will drive on separate servers. Please ensure that you know which class you are and that you join the right server LIGHTS on UKGPL_T7_2; HEAVY on UKGPL3 The Light and Heavy Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=395&theme=6) Password: see above (#post_event_password) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: fpolicardi on May 16, 2013, 12:11:38 AM +0100 T7 server is set for 29 laps Long race an listening on Igor in Consolle session.
Ciao Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: maddog on May 16, 2013, 03:29:34 PM +0100 I've registered to race, but might not get noticed there'ish, so I'm here'ish, waving my arms about like an idiot, instead. :balloon:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 16, 2013, 04:51:46 PM +0100 I've registered to race, but might not get noticed there'ish, so I'm here'ish, waving my arms about like an idiot, instead. :balloon: Who are you again? ??? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: maddog on May 16, 2013, 06:07:16 PM +0100 I'm the back marker you may mistake for an idiot, but I'm only pretending. :P
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: EvilClive on May 17, 2013, 08:06:25 AM +0100 Why would you pretend to be a backmarker I wonder?? ??? are you planning to ambush the leaders as they pass? ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: maddog on May 17, 2013, 11:40:38 AM +0100 You try waving your arms about while leading, and you might also look like an idiot! :P
And tonight's big question is . . . one grid or two? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Cookie on May 17, 2013, 12:03:42 PM +0100 TWO, of course!
On this bumpy track it's hard to keep the car on the tarmac, so no extra thrill needed... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: bernie on May 17, 2013, 07:09:57 PM +0100 I think my 69X on line conection is in dire straights - none combatant - kaput - broken - kernacked even :-\
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: maddog on May 17, 2013, 07:41:55 PM +0100 Did you try entering from in game via multiplayer, using the IP address? And you are in dire straights, if even your straights are dire. I'm hoping to do or dire, if arm waving gets me password in time. :'(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: bernie on May 17, 2013, 08:27:33 PM +0100 I think the real problem is the team manager who recently passed the insanity test with flying colors (mostly green) ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: bernie on May 17, 2013, 08:42:29 PM +0100 just d/l the track , run the installer but it doesnt show in GEM ???
checked the GPL directory the b'hamton file is in there but its empty - duff - nadged I tell you , someone , something has got at it , was it one of you lot , perhaps jealous I might win all the champagne ? Come clean now , own up , you will feel much better after confession I promise ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Cookie on May 17, 2013, 09:42:21 PM +0100 FREEZE... :-[
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: MagicArsouille on May 17, 2013, 09:45:54 PM +0100 freeze...... ???
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: AnGex on May 17, 2013, 09:48:17 PM +0100 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: EvilClive on May 17, 2013, 10:33:19 PM +0100 Grats to Hristo on a great recovery and the win and hard luck Art...you almost got away and clear. Just a few too many laps left for Hristo to hunt you down. lol
I tried to stay with Art in the early laps but I was struggling with a car that had 3 flat spots on each tyre and broken springs. I reckon it was sabotaged ::) A couple of near race ending offs when the car suddenly snapped right or left over an invisible bump and I decided that this was one of those races where I would play the percentage game and just drive for the finish and hope for retirements ahead. When Hristo caught me I confess I did not put up much of a fight and once he was past I returned to my own safe pace. Even then I bounced off the track a couple of times and Dean loomed from behind and was almost within striking distance after each excursion. Luckily he had problems of his own and dropped back allowing me to cruise in for a safe 3rd place. I cannot really say I was racing, because I had more of a fight with the circuit than I did with any of the other cars lol. Just for once I almost wish I could say that I had a freeze! :-\ I find this circuit just way too bumpy and my arms were aching from the FF after only a few laps, plus I find that the car is pulled across the track by invisible grooves in the tarmac at various points. Maybe it is the way I set my car up that makes it bad, but I would be interested to know if others find this track as uncomfortable as I do?? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: DLogan on May 17, 2013, 10:51:14 PM +0100 ...if others find this track as uncomfortable as I do?? Yes. I'd had a 1:26.7 here before with a now-missing setup :'(, but couldn't get near that in qual. Tried a CF65 setup that I've had luck with at other tracks, changing a few things, mostly made it worse, so went for fairly soft setup for the race with a "just get what points I can" attitude. You tempted me into pushing a bit harder, seeing the gap ahead drop occasionally, but that just made me find more invisible bumps to go off track with :P. Unfriendly place, so of course H likes it. :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: maddog on May 18, 2013, 10:49:03 AM +0100 I suffered a nasty attack of the glitches, on the sands of Bridgehampton. It came from a little used partition. The 69x comes with a conflict in my installations, so I put it amongst the graphically challenged, for a test as a guest in '69. Things did not go smoothly.
Bridgehampton by the sea, was built amongst the sand dunes, and the track builder decided to simulate the drifting sand, by adding anomalies to the track surface, to simulate the variable traction. It wasn't until the last practice lap, conditions were right to grab a pole from David, from which to bolt down the track. 8) A glitch free start, meant a clean getaway, with a healthy margin by lap 4, when there came an argument with a sand dune. Selected 1st gear, but realized I would strand myself without a paddle, on the dunes ridge. So reversed, and then gave the smirking spectators a good sand bath, while regaining the track. Relegated to 3rd, I was intent on forward progression. My task was to chase down leader David, and by midrace, I'd halved the distance. This suddenly became 3 car lengths, after he turned around to check my distance. I then thought the polite thing to do, would be to wave his guest through, and waited for his gesture. It wasn't quite as I'd expected! He waited for a bit, and then decided to head off into the distance, which seemed highly ungrateful. I'll not be inviting him to tea! :P Great fun to drive a '69 again. I'll attempt to glitch around the final round, and hope to see a few more competitors there. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Rainier on May 18, 2013, 01:24:11 PM +0100 My task was to chase down leader David, and by midrace, I'd halved the distance. This suddenly became 3 car lengths, after he turned around to check my distance. I then thought the polite thing to do, would be to wave his guest through, and waited for his gesture. It wasn't quite as I'd expected! He waited for a bit, and then decided to head off into the distance, which seemed highly ungrateful. I'll not be inviting him to tea! :P :D I don't like tea, but you can invite me for coffee ;) At the start, I was afraid to have a boring race with only 4 racers. But, thanks to Jonny at the begin and to Martin during all the races, it was a very hard and so a very pleasant battle. Jonny get the fast lap, Martin the pole ...and the victory was for me ! Tasks were perfectly dispatched (from my point of view). And Philippe get some interesting points for the championship, as I should be missing the next 69X race on 31/05 the championship is still open ! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 18, 2013, 06:30:25 PM +0100 Results any time soon?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Artiglietti on May 18, 2013, 06:47:11 PM +0100 I had to pm Paul for some other stuff today, he mentioned some major glitch during the import, we might well have to re-run this at the end of the season if they cant solve that :(.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Cookie on May 18, 2013, 06:50:22 PM +0100 Yes, I had some freezes just running the server replay...
Quote Track: Bhampton Sat May 18 01:46:42 2013 PRACTICE TIMES Pos No Driver Team Nat Time Diff Laps 1 15 Attilio Artiglietti BrabBT26 ITA 1m24.934s 24 2 8 Hristo Itchov69x Lotus49b JPN 1m25.625s 00.691s 6 3 12 evil 69x BrabBT26 USA 1m25.827s 00.893s 24 4 11 Tristan Bot Matra 80 FRA 1m26.150s 01.216s 26 5 9 Andreas Gebhardt Matra 80 GER 1m26.958s 02.024s 18 6 22 marco mercaldo Matra 80 ITA 1m27.574s 02.640s 24 7 6 Axel Cookie Ferrari GER 1m27.782s 02.848s 20 8 17 Dean Logan 69X Matra 80 CAN 1m28.109s 03.175s 17 9 21 Ronnie Peterson Ferrari ITA 1m29.339s 04.405s 22 10 19 Piero Mercaldo Matra 80 ITA 1m39.630s 14.696s 4 11 27 2 UKGPL_T7 McLareM7 ITA No time No time 0 All times are official Generated with GPL Replay Analyser Track: Bhampton Sat May 18 01:46:42 2013 RACE RESULTS (After 29 laps) Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff Problem 1 8 Hristo Itchov69x Lotus49b JPN 29 42m02.343s 2 15 Attilio Artiglietti BrabBT26 ITA 29 42m19.135s 16.792s 3 12 evil 69x BrabBT26 USA 29 43m04.185s 1m01.842s 4 17 Dean Logan 69X Matra 80 CAN 29 43m22.218s 1m19.875s 5 19 Piero Mercaldo Matra 80 ITA 28 43m13.274s 1 lap(s) 6 22 marco mercaldo Matra 80 ITA 27 42m38.499s 2 lap(s) 7 21 Ronnie Peterson Ferrari ITA 18 28m37.999s 11 lap(s) 8 6 Axel Cookie Ferrari GER 3 4m37.217s 26 lap(s) 9 9 Andreas Gebhardt Matra 80 GER 3 5m04.995s 26 lap(s) 10 11 Tristan Bot Matra 80 FRA 3 5m12.327s 26 lap(s) 11 27 2 UKGPL_T7 McLareM7 ITA 0 DidNotStart 29 lap(s) Race results are unofficial (Replay might have been saved before end of race) RACE FASTEST LAPS Pos Driver Time Lap 1 Hristo Itchov69x 1m24.661s 28 2 Attilio Artiglietti 1m25.070s 29 3 evil 69x 1m26.722s 27 4 Dean Logan 69X 1m27.462s 28 5 Piero Mercaldo 1m27.847s 26 6 Axel Cookie 1m28.904s 3 7 marco mercaldo 1m30.040s 16 8 Andreas Gebhardt 1m30.335s 3 9 Ronnie Peterson 1m30.915s 6 10 Tristan Bot 1m38.174s 2 Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 18, 2013, 07:06:42 PM +0100 I had to pm Paul for some other stuff today, he mentioned some major glitch during the import, we might well have to re-run this at the end of the season if they cant solve that :(. Rerun? No way, LOL. We can simply use the export which Axel provided ^. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Artiglietti on May 18, 2013, 08:26:00 PM +0100 Yeah, but you need a server replay for an official championship race, according to the league's rules. We had a similar issue some time ago in works (S22 I think?) and we had to rerun..
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 18, 2013, 08:35:46 PM +0100 Yeah, but you need a server replay for an official championship race, according to the league's rules. We had a similar issue some time ago in works (S22 I think?) and we had to rerun.. So what if there is no replay, I don't see how that negates the result of the race... Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: AnGex on May 18, 2013, 08:40:20 PM +0100 Rerun? No way, LOL. We can simply use the export which Axel provided ^. Rerun? Sure, LOL. That was my first thinking of this "Race" ^. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Marco Mercaldo on May 19, 2013, 07:33:19 AM +0100 Hey guys , next track is shottenring or hockenheim?????
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 19, 2013, 10:39:14 AM +0100 Hey guys , next track is shottenring or hockenheim????? Schottenring Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: EvilClive on May 19, 2013, 10:53:09 AM +0100 I had to pm Paul for some other stuff today, he mentioned some major glitch during the import, we might well have to re-run this at the end of the season if they cant solve that :(. aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! that is just plain nasty!!!! :cursing: :death: :death: :death: :helpsmilie: :helpsmilie: :helpsmilie: :helpsmilie: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2013, 11:01:48 AM +0100 A rerun is out of question IMO. Just because of a replay? We have the results, just upload a client replay to serve as a server replay. Or at least put up a vote about it. I very much doubt most people would like to run this track again this season, plus I can't accept that after driving one of my best races the result has to be dropped as if nothing happened.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Artiglietti on May 19, 2013, 11:09:17 AM +0100 A rerun is out of question IMO. Just because of a replay? We have the results, just upload a client replay to serve as a server replay. Or at least put up a vote about it. I very much doubt most people would like to run this track again this season, plus I can't accept that after driving one of my best races the result has to be dropped as if nothing happened. Guys, I think this is just a rule of the league, it is not as if we can bend and change the rules because some people don't like the track... I tried to stay with Art in the early laps but I was struggling with a car that had 3 flat spots on each tyre and broken springs. I reckon it was sabotaged ::) Obviously that must have been Ronnie. It would explain why he had to let his granny start the race in his place while he was still busy with your car... ;D ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2013, 11:24:56 AM +0100 Rules serve as a guideline, Art, not as an absolute. Of course the rules have exceptions, a smart administrator would adapt the rules to the situation, not just blindly follow them. The rules doesn't make much sense anyway. I would understand if a rerun is done due to a mass disco or something, but because there is no server replay, even though we have the race results? Ridiculous!
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Artiglietti on May 19, 2013, 11:28:00 AM +0100 Well, this pretty much looks like a black and white rule to me...Pity really, you did drive a brilliant race indeed :).
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Cookie on May 19, 2013, 03:02:08 PM +0100 There is a replay on the race server but it has some glitches...
So just wait and see what Paul can do ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 19, 2013, 03:24:41 PM +0100 Obviously that must have been Ronnie. It would explain why he had to let his granny start the race in his place while he was still busy with your car... ;D ;D Well spotted Art :wheelchair: :wheelchair: :wheelchair: By the way, Gran says the race result should stand. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Artiglietti on May 19, 2013, 03:35:42 PM +0100 Obviously that must have been Ronnie. It would explain why he had to let his granny start the race in his place while he was still busy with your car... ;D ;D Well spotted Art :wheelchair: :wheelchair: :wheelchair: By the way, Gran says the race result should stand. Lol Ronnie. You should have told her that it was a one way route, no incoming traffic to be worried about going round those blind turns. It seems that when I came to lap her she was expecting some crazy kid on a scooter coming up the wrong way from the beach ;D ;D As for the results, we shall see some time soon I think >:D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Hristo Itchov on May 19, 2013, 04:25:00 PM +0100 Well, I wouldn't race in the rerun, so whatever is decided it's the same to me. IMO the idea of the rule is when the results can't be extracted, which is clearly not the case right now.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: Artiglietti on May 19, 2013, 04:38:34 PM +0100 Well, I wouldn't race in the rerun, so whatever is decided it's the same to me. IMO the idea of the rule is when the results can't be extracted, which is clearly not the case right now. Come on H, we are just fooling around. Paul must be out of town, I am sure results will be up soon :P. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: MagicArsouille on May 19, 2013, 10:10:34 PM +0100 3 disco (...or 4 ?) on a 10 starters... :o..it's 1/3 of the field.... :-\...is it a mass disco ??....... :laugh:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: BadBlood on May 19, 2013, 10:44:01 PM +0100 3 disco (...or 4 ?) on a 10 starters... :o..it's 1/3 of the field.... :-\...is it a mass disco ??....... :laugh: Nope - generally has to be half the field all at the same time... although each circumstance is looked at individually. Results are in and no re-run I am afraid. Sorry for the late upload - I was away from Friday night until tonight. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: maddog on May 29, 2013, 07:07:36 PM +0100 I'm back to waving my arms about again! I'd to go Light at Schottenring - would've easily won the last round in Heavies, except for a strong Atlantic breeze which blew a sand dune under my wheels. So I'm fully equipped to act as a Light road sweeper. ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Extra Trophy (69X) - Bridgehampton - May 17 Post by: BadBlood on May 31, 2013, 08:00:16 PM +0100 Modding complete.
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