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Title: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Rainier on May 18, 2013, 01:39:21 PM +0100
Season 24 Historic Trophy (66) - Round 9 - Rouen-Les-Essarts

For round 9 we remain in France and travel about 300 miles north west up to Rouen-Les-Essarts.  In the 1950s and 60s this track was widely regarded as one of the finest in Europe.  The French Grand Prix was first held at Rouen-Les-Essarts in 1952 before the track was lengthened and  the Grand Prix held there again in 1957, 1962, 1964 and 1968.  It is the lengthened circuit that we will be racing on tonight.  The 1962 race was won by Dan Gurney, his first Formula 1 victory and the one and only win for Porsche.  The 1964 race was again won by Dan Gurney this time driving a Brabham-Climax.  The final grand prix in 1968 was won by Jacky Ickx but it will always be remembered for the fatal accident involving Jo Schlesser.  

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 21-05-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Rouen-Les-Essarts
Variant = mod66
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 24)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Replays Available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS24_js.aspx)
Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=390&theme=6)

The track can be downloaded from : N/A (Papyrus Original)
The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.

For THIS RACE, 2 liters car must be selected
Hristo ITCHOV will be restricted to Group I cars (Eagle T1F Climax or Lotus 33 Climax)
Tristan BOT and Al HELLER will be restricted to Group I and II cars (Brabham BT11 2.5lt     or Lotus 33 BRM)

all other drivers have free choice.

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start line to the exit of the hairpin at Nouveau Monde. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report. [/quote]


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: liveclive on May 21, 2013, 07:53:46 PM +0100
For those of you able to access SkySports F1 channel.

Tonight at  20:00hrs The 1962 Rouen GP!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 21, 2013, 08:11:51 PM +0100
Thnx for this just grabbing a drink while the adverts are on!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: dave curtis on May 21, 2013, 08:24:57 PM +0100

Thanks!  Rushed back down there & set to record,  just missed the first couple of mins.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 21, 2013, 09:49:03 PM +0100
Bit of a wasted effort. Lap 1 Nouveau Monde on the exit kept very very tight but a Ferrari across the bows when I went to accelerate (reacting to a spin ahead - no complaints). GPL crash box working at full tilt - impact at 25mph was enough to launch the car 10 feet in the air. Game over. I was never going to be competitive but a few laps would have been nice.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Rainier on May 21, 2013, 09:58:06 PM +0100
Bit of a wasted effort. Lap 1 Nouveau Monde on the exit kept very very tight but a Ferrari across the bows when I went to accelerate (reacting to a spin ahead - no complaints). GPL crash box working at full tilt - impact at 25mph was enough to launch the car 10 feet in the air. Game over. I was never going to be competitive but a few laps would have been nice.

I think I was responsible ... I spun at the exit of Le nouveau Monde on 1st lap, and Phil (on the Ferrari) could not avoid my BRM ...and then you arrived !
Before that, I took a very very slow start and loose 3 or 4 positions before the 1st turn.

And after that, just at the begin of the second lap, I was running between Bernie (in front of my car) and Phil (behind), when suddenly Bernie's Brabham disappeared during several seconds ...and when it appears again it was too late and I had already rearended him !
Sorry Billy and Bernie !
Would be interesting to know what have seen Phil from his cockpit !

So for me, a very short and bad race :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 21, 2013, 10:03:01 PM +0100
Lap 1 Nouveau Monde on the exit kept very very tight but a Ferrari across the bows when I went to accelerate (reacting to a spin ahead - no complaints).
That was me in the Ferrari Bill.  I saw a shunt ahead so went right but the car backed into me and knocked me sideways.

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GPL crash box working at full tilt - impact at 25mph was enough to launch the car 10 feet in the air. Game over. I was never going to be competitive but a few laps would have been nice.
Sorry about that, just one of those things.  I was lucky not to be blown into orbit too!

After that I was hoping for a decent race with Bernie and David.  But a couple of laps later I was following Bernie and David into T1 when Bernie disappeared.  I expected a problem so I backed off and sure enough Bernie reappeared on the same piece of tarmac as David.  Pity.  After that I managed to catch Andreas who had been on a excursion on the grass but then I threw it away trying too hard on the climb from the hairpin :(.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 21, 2013, 10:05:11 PM +0100
Would be interesting to know what have seen Phil from his cockpit !
I've saved my replay David so I'll submit an incident report and attach the replay so you can look at it from my cockpit.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 21, 2013, 10:15:23 PM +0100
Grats to the podium whoever you are.

Thnx for the close racing Tom and Clive. Sorry about the knock Tom. I thought I had a run down the inside and hoped you would see me in your mirrors and leave me some room. I blew my engine shortly afterwards so it was definitely an unnecessary risk on my part. I hope I have not ruined your race. Afterall we are team mates!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 21, 2013, 10:16:17 PM +0100
No problem chaps - all part & parcel of going racing. With my lap times my race strategy is to last longer than those who are a bit quicker.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: EvilClive on May 21, 2013, 10:41:39 PM +0100
lol it was a great dice Ronnie and Tom.

After Ronnie squeezed through and then got past Tom as well, I knew I had to get onto your tail or else you would have things too easy and your extra grunt up the hill might just allow you to escape. But Tom was not keen on allowing me to pass and I had to set up the move from a long way back, adjusting my lines and exits from corners to be in the right spot. Even then I only just made it through!!!

Fortunately I was quick enough on some parts of the track to close up and get the tow from Ronnie's growling Brabham.

I thought he would do the decent English gentlemanly thing and allow me an easy pass...huh! no chance!!! lap after lap I hounded him but the extra power of his 2.5ltr engine was a real pain lol
Although I could have passed him on the back straight with the help of the tow it did no good because he would simply draft past on the S/F line.
I had to make my pass across the s/f line and use my extra pace before the back straight to build a cushion..easier said than done  :-\
I prodded and pushed waiting for a chance and at last he put a wheel on the grass out of the final turn and lost a little drive. It was now or never, especially as Tom was reeling us in from behind and threatening to pass both of us!!

I hope the pass at T1 was OK Ronnie , I was on the ragged edge there but tried to keep it as tight as I could  ::)
I was just far enough ahead at the end of the back straight to prevent Ronnie having a go at a pass and got good drive off the bends and across the s/f to allow me to squeeze just a little further ahead each lap until I had a safe margin and could ease back.
It was a really tough race against Ronnie and Tom...great fun oh! and I even sneaked onto the podium ;D

Grats to Hrsito and Art you guys were away and gone  long before I had a clear road and anyway I was never going to be THAT quick lol.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: dave curtis on May 21, 2013, 10:44:35 PM +0100
For those of you able to access SkySports F1 channel.

Tonight at  20:00hrs The 1962 Rouen GP!!

And for those that missed it,  repeated  18:00 Thursday & 17:30 Saturday by the looks of it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 21, 2013, 10:58:22 PM +0100
I hope the pass at T1 was OK Ronnie , I was on the ragged edge there but tried to keep it as tight as I could  ::)

No problem Clive, you left me acres of room from where I was sitting. Grats to yourself and also Hristo and Art.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: kinghiro on May 21, 2013, 11:03:02 PM +0100
Grats to the podium whoever you are.

Thnx for the close racing Tom and Clive. Sorry about the knock Tom. I thought I had a run down the inside and hoped you would see me in your mirrors and leave me some room. I blew my engine shortly afterwards so it was definitely an unnecessary risk on my part. I hope I have not ruined your race. Afterall we are team mates!
It was very fun while it lasted. I got flipped upside down so it was definatly end of race. you were not down my inside Ronnie you were behind me the hole time and you had the straight afterwards where you braked later than me anyway. Appreciate the apology though. I want the mods to look at it to hear their opinion this time . I can tick no penalty.
Gz H with the win and after all I really enjoyed as it lasted the tight racing with Ronnie Evil and me. It was fun those laps I watched the two of them side by side too while I followed.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Ronniepeterson on May 21, 2013, 11:55:05 PM +0100
It was very fun while it lasted. I got flipped upside down so it was definatly end of race. you were not down my inside Ronnie you were behind me the hole time and you had the straight afterwards where you braked later than me anyway. Appreciate the apology though. I want the mods to look at it to hear their opinion this time . I can tick no penalty.

No problem Tom, that's what the incident system is for. Sorry your race was ended.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Al Heller on May 22, 2013, 11:49:57 AM +0100
A little disappointing - I was right behind Clive & Ronnie for the opening laps but then lost a bit of time when Goran bounced off the barriers right in front of me. The Lotus wasn't the quickest down the straight so once I lost Ronnie's tow, I struggled to close the gap again & ended up having a bit of a lonely race. Congrats to H, Art & Clive.       


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 24 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Rouen - May 21
Post by: Rainier on May 30, 2013, 01:44:46 PM +0100
Moderation published.