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Practice: 19:20 (BST) (65 mins)
Qual 2: 20:25 (20 mins)
Race: 20:45 ~ (36 laps)
Cars allowed: Triumph TR4, Ferrari 250 Berlinetta, Austin Healey Mk2, Lotus Elite, Mini 1275, Jag mkII 4.2, Alfa jnr 1300.
Track: 67 Pembrey  (Amazon Link) Download and install this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_pembrey)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: None required

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nice car line up :)

Similar to Goodwod event earlier, Cars are likely to change a bit.

And the BRITAX mini?

"Probably"  I've not been able to do much extended testing yet, if someone would post times for all the cars that would be most helpfull.   8)
I had the  Lotus Tina in at first, but it seems to fast. Ferri and Alfa 1300 are a bit faster than the others for me.

Have we bottomed out the problems that we had in 2011 when we tried to run this track.  Is it the same version?

In PnG v2, the Cortina and 1300 Alfa seemed to rule at 1:10ish.

I think I remember some problems when we raced here too Clive, but no details. However, I do remember racing at NG in 2.1 around the same time and we had no issues at all.

Only problem I remember is the glass wall at T2. Did we have other issues?

Disconnections and an inability to reconnect thereafter as I recall.

That seems to be a common disease at present, not sure it's unique to this track?

Possibly related.... does anyone (Mogget)? know who GC use for their hosting company?

Is it just me, or do the grip levels seem a bit goofy here? Had a quick test in the Lotus and Alfa and they wanted to flip over on every corner  :o

I seem to remember we had a very wet race at NG, so maybe that was the reasoning behind it  :-\

No we don't want a wet race!

And I've found the glass wall!

No "flipping" problems with the TR4 but I have had the little tin box on its lid a couple of times.  Think that's just because it's shaped like a dice and behaves accordingly.

I recently upgraded Pembrey airfield for an FSX airfield scenery package, and I added the basic track layout to that (just an asphalt strip that matches the base photo image, plus a few parked cars, trucks etc). The track is only a few hundred metres south of the runway 04 threshold.

Oh yes, even TR4 wants to flip over, actually I did that successfully in more than one occasion ...

Only car that doesn`t have "flipping" problem is Mini and only Mini that can keep up with TR4 and Alfa is Britax ... of course in my hands.

The track will be fine when they have finished it!

Another couple of hours to put some brake markers going into the hairpin would not have gone amiss!

EDIT:  The cars that I have tried all seem quite evenly matched.  And they are all 'orrible!

I've only tried the Ferrari 250, but that wasn't flipping over at all. Maybe just wasn't going quick enough.. Felt very nice here though.

I haven't even looked at this track yet, but I suspect that I will be driving the Mini Cooper 1275S.

My biggest decision is which server to use.....
Our paid for one which has been giving lots of people issues over the past few months
or mine that worked perfectly one week, (actually better than the real server) but struggled with Mid America twice  ???

Nice group of cars, but I don't have time to try any of them out! Might not even make the race, depending on if my train is late home >:(
How do the Ferrari & Jag compare to the rest?

LOL

I hadn't even spotted the Jag!   ::)

I have only tried the Alfa & the Elite. The Alfa is at least 1s a lap faster for me but is quite easy to turn over, Elite lacks straight line speed but is great through the corners & doesn't appear to want to tip over. So it is the Elite for me.

1: I am obviously giving you too much choice if Clive hasn't seen them all  ::)
2: I must be slower than I think, because unless I hit kerbs I never roll any of them here.

Far too much choice.  I like spec races.  No need to wonder what car I should be in then!

Just tried the Jag.  Couldn't do better than a 1:08.5 and the thing blew up ofter 13 laps.

When my brother used to race his FF2000 here there was also a 3hr race for sports saloons and sports cars.  I never realised what a miserable time the Jag drivers were having!   ::)  Front tyres all shades of the rainbow and not enough steering to make it flip unless I used one of the grassy banks!

Gutted, doesn't look like I can do this one (or next week)  :'(

I don't have my times handy, but I think the Jag was potentially competitive, but is there for masochists people who want a challenge.

Which Alfa GTA jun. 1300  can be used - standard and/or wide body?

The standard version only. The WB version will blow this little lot clean out of the water.

Most definitely!

Went behind the grass wall and was disqualified when trying to rejoin the track - there indeed is one possibility...

That's a real shame  :( :-[ - nice track, nice car combo and a funny race right from the beginning.

Have fun guys

CU next time

Another consistent performance from the Mogster :) The Mini was a nice, stable car for this track, although it suffered on the back straight when compared to most of the other cars. I managed to hang on at the back of the five car leading pack in the early stages, and basically just reeled off lap after consistent lap following Syd Drake's TR4. I had a short battle with John's Healey at one point, and Animal Ed caught and passed me in his Alfa, but otherwise it was a case of waiting for others to make mistakes. Mr Reali made one later in the second half of the race, and that bumped me up to P4. I had one scary moment when I lost concentration during the approach to the hairpin, but thankfully I managed to stop the car in time. It lost me several seconds, and gave Clive a glimmer of hope........but the Mogster brought the situation back under control ;D

On a side note....where were the rest of my team? ???

Results and Replay Posted

Not so many racers tonight, A couple said they couldn't, was fun race, I should have taken a faster car... I went over the wall as well but found a
part where the wall was lower and jumped back 2 laps down., then did it almost again, smacked the wall this time, and gave up.
Server wise, I don;t think anyone got dropped, a few left due to offs, but no discoes I am aware of, and we were using my server.

Nice race. Cars fitted the track well. Made i noobish spin on lap 1. After that had a good race in my TR4, it was a nice drive too. Had a nice scrap with the two F250's of Frex and Mark.
Looked like a stable connection with the server indeed.
I'll be on holiday next week so i hope to see you all at the Lakeside track!

Poor result, but great fun! Unfortunate skirmish at the end of the first lap put me into the wall, and i suffered with dollops of oversteer from then on, gradually dropping further and further down through the field.

But the many laps battling with MJ and Postal made up for that, lots of fun. At one point the guilt of holding MJ up in my wayward handling Ferrari got to me and i tried to slow and signal for you to pass - only to find i had no headlights.. (must have lost them in that first lap). And all that acheived was to confuse you and you went wide, sorry for that  :oops: Decided that was a poor idea from then on and just drove my own race. Entertaining, but the possibility of losing the rear end was always nearby, and eventually my talent (lack of) ran out..! Fun race though.

Congrats to GT and podium.

Got to grid and couldn't see lights so used my clock to get a decent start. John got a better one and flew past me to take the lead and I soon had Giuseppe chasing me down. After a few laps I went a little too deep into T1 and he slipped past, but I was then able to slowly reel him and John back in as they contested the lead.

I eventually passed Giuseppe, but soon had some backmarkers to negotiate which I messed up and I had a flip  :o Car was ok but headlights didn't work so I was unable to acknowledge those that let me through after that, so thanks to those who did.

Set about chasing back and made up some ground before John had his spin and Giuseppe went over the bank leaving me in the lead. Had to ease back towards the end as I was marginal on fuel which made for a nervous finish with Ed closing in.

A lucky night for me then  :)

Good to see that there were no server troubles :thumbup1:

Yep the internet weather was calm last night, pings looked good as well, which was comforting.
There was an altercation at the start where Giuseppe and Clive both tried to occupy the same space
with some nasty results causing Clive to get flipped, and Geoffers to have contact.
The gap they were going for was not really there anyway, easy to say with hindsight
but if one had gone one way and one the other it wouldn't have happened  :nono:

I went over the wall twice, and managed to get back after being lapped, as there are sections
which are lower every few 100 metres or so.

Good fun though even if was eventually simply trying to unlap myself from Alex   ;D

I guess that Ed was still looking for the lights when the race started.

He didn't move and John went to the right.  I went left, aiming for the roughly TR4 sized gap between Ed and frex, when Giuseppe arrived and pushed me into Ed.  That spun me around to face the wrong way and then Geoffers had no option but to clip me and send me into a neat barrel roll, from which I landed next to the Armco, with the appropriate amount of damage.

I set off from there after everyone had passed me and, once I was heading in the right direction, found Geoffers still stationary on the grid.

I passed a few and towards the end I thought that I might catch Mogget too.  But it was not to be.  My tyres were good for the first three quarters of the race and I was still setting my best laps well into the second half.  I closed to within a couple of seconds of Mogget before my front tyres cried enough!  I was having to lift too much to stay off the grass in the long left hander and my chances of getting close to Mogget on the straight had gone.  Apparently he had woken up too!

Good to see Syd having a good run.

Grats to Tudor, Aged Ed and John.

@Ed   Team?   LOL  Come off it.   :lol:

The gap that I was going for was clearly there.  I just didn't expect another car, which I couldn't see but who could clearly see me, to try to wedge himself in the same space.

As you say, I should have followed John!

I apportion no blame, just watch yer mirrors guys  :P

No, I didn't. Couldn't see them anyway. I was waiting for gap timing to start.

Considering that tiny problem, I lost "only" 5 places so it was all good but than I made mistake in second lap while trying to overtake Syd and 13th place is mine! Nice!  :taz:
After red mist left from my eyes (and rest of the grid) I set for hunt down every car in front of me without thinking is that for position or laping. In my journey to the second place I had some interesting but short  ;D batlles ... so 3,4 seconds behind winner GT is fine I guess.

We have saying over here and roughly translated it would be something like "from whole book, one letter left"

i had a crap race. Span it on my own after making up numerous places on the first lap whilst thinking look at those silly boys having incidents on the first lap  ::) that left me upto 10 secs behind the top 10. Had a few duels and chases with cars from 10th-13th and then with about 7 laps left, i lost the back end on worn tyres in one of the quicker corners and the car slid over the grass bank. I must have driven half the circuit around the outside trying to find a way back onto track but nada...so had to disgruntingly dnf myself  >:(

Like the track layout but i wouldnt use this again for league racing, its just too buggy

I think Matt deserves some praise for the wonderful selection of cars he produces week after week.

He gets a big  :thumbup1: from me

I agree, Tony. Sorting out car and track combos every week is a PITA as far as I am concerned, so it's nice when someone else does it for me :) As for Pembrey, I was seeing graphical artefacts now and again during qualifying and the race, but it didn't affect my driving.

Yeh the engine had died & I thought it was race over, but it restarted only for me to stall it again doing a u-turn  ::).

Thereafter I just drove flat out all the way, passed a few cars early on, then had a lonely run until I caught Syd on the last lap. Tried hard to make a pass before the long straight but just succeeded in giving Syd a bump, sorry Syd, fortunately no harm was done & I had to settle for 7th place.

Congrats To GT, Ed & John.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

Actually that was the big plus of this round, it was great seeing a nice mix of old cars on track all getting sideways through the corners and lovely seeing a few of those old Jag Mk1's belting round  :thumbup1:

Thanks for the support guys. After weeks of more negatives than positives, a little appreciation is always good  :thumbup1:
You can't please all the people all the time, but it's nice to please most of the people most of the time...

 :( Hello guys, I'm really sorry for the mess I've done at the start and I apologize to Clive and the other drivers that I damaged  :-[  :wheelchair:
The race was beautiful and fought until I went over the hill, I tried to go back but I have not found a place to pass and I retired  :death:
I would also like to thank all the staff for the excellent job at every race and give us an opportunity to enjoy  :thumbup2:
See you on the track  :punk:

Giuseppe

No problem Giuseppe.

Think we will all have to be careful at Preluk next week.

I thought I'd raced here before, did so with Abarths in the wet - great fun (for those that kept it on track) :D

If we should ever race here again - Cap7 has helpfully shown the invisible wall around the inside of the track:
http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1333095&postcount=2

From the look of that thread, the podium were all SROUK'ers ;D

As for my race - made a good getaway, but it was only a matter of time before the Alfas filtered through to the top. Couple of spins didn't help, but it wouldn't have changed the result anyway. Those Kerb Crawlers extended their lead as well. We'd better get back on it, or Clive will have to change his signature for the worse next season...

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/GTR2_67_pembrey_2013_8_15_20_45/)

Don't forget out little Days of Thunder moment when we each passed a stranded 250 on a different side at full speed (well, sort of..).

Great race and glad I could be part of the ambiance.

ps. big apologies to the Alfa which tried to overtake me at the beginning. Was taken by surprise by the Healey so I lost sight of the other passing cars. Healey and TR4's more like like stealth fighters in my mirror  :ninja: