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Title: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on August 26, 2013, 06:12:45 PM +0100
Season 25 Historic Trophy (66) - Round 4 - Monaco
Welcome to the fourth round in the 66's class of UKGPL for the continuation of our twenty fifth season. Monaco. Papy original, classic track, a real driver's circuit. Really hard!

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 10-09-2013
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Tracks = Papyrus track
Variant = 66
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 26)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Replays Available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS25_js.aspx)
Driver lists and rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=403&theme=6)


The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

The race will be run under PRO rules so no resets are allowed.


For THIS RACE, 2 liters car must be selected

As there is no dominant drivers in this serie, all drivers have free choice for Race 4.
Full moderation of lap one red zone

LAP ONE RED ZONE: Full moderation from race start to the exit of The Chicane du Port.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: francesco on September 02, 2013, 10:31:39 AM +0100
With the time reported over ,i could already retire ;D Anyway I try.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: dave curtis on September 08, 2013, 10:48:59 PM +0100
Have a great time with the streets/sights/smells at Monaco chaps.  Can't make it myself as I'll be at (well near come that time of night) Peppa Pig world... SNORT!

But I'll undoubtedly be looking at my watch at some point during the session & wishing I was sliding into a barrier somewhere ;)

Cheers,
Dave.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on September 09, 2013, 08:07:14 PM +0100
Number of laps has been corrected : 26 laps and not 27.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: maddog on September 09, 2013, 09:48:18 PM +0100
Number of laps has been corrected : 26 laps and not 27.
I spent ages getting the balance just right! :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on September 10, 2013, 07:36:04 PM +0100
Number of laps has been corrected : 26 laps and not 27.
I spent ages getting the balance just right! :-[

You just have to multiply by 26/27 your balance ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: maddog on September 10, 2013, 08:36:28 PM +0100
Ok, good!  So I don't have to worry about the Litres and metres then, because in '66 we were de-metricated backyard mechanics, and I'd probably put my foot in it. >:(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on September 10, 2013, 09:38:56 PM +0100
Engine blew on start line, sorry to anyone behind me. Good luck all.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: maddog on September 10, 2013, 10:47:58 PM +0100
Bad luck Ronnie - some are destined for accolade and calamity in equal proportions.  Mediocre is boring! 8)

My race started well enough.  A close battle for the first lap, put me into 3rd, and with only nine tenths to go!  I was seated in the lightweight Lotus, but there was a problem - during practice I'd broken the chassis, and the seat had become a spineless platform.  There was no time to fix my previous fix, so this put me in a fix!

The car must've been lighter after the bit fell off, because it was looking quite good, up until I almost fell off, and a wheel fell off.  Which meant we fell off the leader board on lap 4. >:(

If anyone has a welding torch I can borrow, I'll get re-seated for the next off?'


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: ivandjj on September 11, 2013, 08:30:31 AM +0100
At first i tought i made a monster start, than realised that car in front is not moving :o
Squeezed thru undamaged but fell to about 8th.
Which became 4th in the space of a few laps as maddogs battle for 3rd quickly destroyed itself.

Feeling lonely, i made few mistakes and happily got Andreas for company from behind.
He made some pressure, so i gracefully clobbered some straw and let him past.

Than i pressed him a bit, so he very ungracefully spun at Casino.
Decided to try braking, rather than sidewalk climbing.
Braked down to 54 kmh and than we gently touched front wheel to front wheel.
Andreas was doing 58 kmh at that moment, so gpl decided to shed my front wheel and leave him undamaged and facing right direction again.

Wondering if he would've lost a wheel if i was doing 59 kmh?
No matter anyway, it was all good fun while it lasted  :)

After that wached Clive/Tristan battle for the lead.
They had one interesting moment at Gasometre which reminded me of Schumacher/Villeneuve at Jerez 97.
I bet Tristan can imagine what went thru Schu's head in that moment  ::)

Congrats to all finishers, but most impressive to me was Ivan S who showed how you can finish on the podium at Monaco by keeping your enthusiasm in check.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: AnGex on September 11, 2013, 01:24:28 PM +0100
....i made few mistakes and happily got Andreas for company from behind.
He made some pressure, so i gracefully clobbered some straw and let him past.

Than i pressed him a bit, so he very ungracefully spun at Casino.
Decided to try braking, rather than sidewalk climbing.
Braked down to 54 kmh and than we gently touched front wheel to front wheel.
Andreas was doing 58 kmh at that moment, so gpl decided to shed my front wheel and leave him undamaged and facing right direction again...


Sorry for being out `cause of my mistake.  :( From that moment on I had no good feeling and after I through it away at the chicane...  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on September 11, 2013, 06:59:23 PM +0100
Engine blew on start line, sorry to anyone behind me. Good luck all.

I made a gap to avoid the crash with you ...unfortunately Francesco Molteni violently rear ended me !
My car was not really damaged but I lost 10-15 seconds.

I quickly rejoin Francesco and made the full race behind him with no possibility to overtook until he blew his engine ! (as he rearended me at the start, I was hoping he let me pass ...but since Senna and Schumacher we all know this could not happen with "new generation" racers :)  )


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: ivandjj on September 12, 2013, 10:46:55 PM +0100
....i made few mistakes and happily got Andreas for company from behind.
He made some pressure, so i gracefully clobbered some straw and let him past.

Than i pressed him a bit, so he very ungracefully spun at Casino.
Decided to try braking, rather than sidewalk climbing.
Braked down to 54 kmh and than we gently touched front wheel to front wheel.
Andreas was doing 58 kmh at that moment, so gpl decided to shed my front wheel and leave him undamaged and facing right direction again...


Sorry for being out `cause of my mistake.  :( From that moment on I had no good feeling and after I through it away at the chicane...  ::)


np, racing accident  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: francesco on September 13, 2013, 08:12:55 AM +0100
 

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.unfortunately Francesco Molteni violently rear ended me !
Sorry for this.Since i was the last i was also surprised from your slow start.Only later i have understood why ,but all happened in less than a second.

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as he rearended me at the start, I was hoping he let me pass ...but since Senna and Schumacher we all know this could not happen with "new generation" racers Smiley  )
I have not realized  the severity of the "rearended" and also that was your car.I was convinced that the rear ended was very soft and my action was mainly on the right of your car.Since my age is not green, the "new generation racer" is not appropriate and in many other races i have suffered the same without receiving the position lost.
I repeat that in my memory the incident was not so serious,i must check in the replay to realize what was happened. Repeat also that I have not realized that was your car ,so when you have rejoined me due to one my error, why i had to think to give back the position to you?
So to show you that i'm not you think about me ,i'm available to give up to the point of this race and also to retire my car from the Historic.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Ronniepeterson on September 13, 2013, 05:26:39 PM +0100
I can't help feeling that any contact going on behind me was due to my blown engine on the start line, sorry again guys. I hope you don't quit the series Francesco.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on September 13, 2013, 06:44:27 PM +0100

So to show you that i'm not you think about me ,i'm available to give up to the point of this race and also to retire my car from the Historic.

Apologies accepted, please do not retire from the series !
I was angry due to the fact it is not the first time I was rear ended because I was too cautious, seeing a car with trouble in front of me. You were not responsible for the other times ...but you paid for all :)
it happened I made this kind of error, too.

Moderation (it will not be me for this incident) will try to determine if you should have been more cautious or if you have no responsibility.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: francesco on September 13, 2013, 08:39:04 PM +0100
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Apologies accepted, please do not retire from the series !
I was angry due to the fact it is not the first time I was rear ended because I was too cautious, seeing a car with trouble in front of me. 
OK Rainier ,in a race could happen.I can guarantee that i was surprised by your slow start and only some second after i have understood.Your behavior was correct the only thing is that i have pushed the gas when the green flag had fallen.Was the only things I have been monitoring at the start.
I can understand also your anger because,when happen, is the same for me.
I hope to have good race without incident with you in future ;D
More angry with me should be Andreas.During the race at Monthlery happen the same ,not at the start but during a braking.Also in this case i was surprised by the strong braking of Andreas when i was intent to overtake him on the left.The consequence was much more serious,at least I think having not seen,until now,the replay of Monaco.
thank you for the friendly replay.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: AnGex on September 13, 2013, 10:42:57 PM +0100
...More angry with me should be Andreas.During the race at Monthlery happen the same ,not at the start but during a braking.Also in this case i was surprised by the strong braking of Andreas when i was intent to overtake him on the left.The consequence was much more serious,at least I think having not seen,until now,the replay of Monaco.
thank you for the friendly replay.

I am not angry with you, amico!
The fun to race with all you guys is much more. It already starts when i join the server and the competion is going on. So lets do that over and over again!    ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: francesco on September 14, 2013, 08:14:33 AM +0100
Andreas,in the past i have worked in my company with 2 Gebhardt .2 sister ,not young also some years ago,with name Annelise and Annelore.Are not your relatives?Probably Gebhardt in the Essen region is like Molteni(my name) in Como,very common.Only a curiosity.
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on September 14, 2013, 04:54:09 PM +0100
Andreas,in the past i have worked in my company with 2 Gebhardt .2 sister ,not young also some years ago,with name Annelise and Annelore.Are not your relatives?Probably Gebhardt in the Essen region is like Molteni(my name) in Como,very common.Only a curiosity.
Ciao

Every time, I see your name I remember the great Eddy Merckx which was my favourite sportsman in the years 70's ;)

(http://www.vintagevelos.com/15-93-thickbox/molteni-wool-cycling-jersey.jpg)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: francesco on September 15, 2013, 09:43:36 AM +0100
Yes,was a company producing kitchens.I think that is ancient in the region and exist also a village named Molteno between Como and Lecco.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: MagicArsouille on September 18, 2013, 01:01:32 AM +0100
hi

Ilike monaco ,I was confortably leading but unfortunatly I broke the engine at 3-4 laps from the end....and save the 3 rd place.....

c u at Dessau ( strange track )


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco - Sep 10
Post by: Rainier on September 30, 2013, 10:02:51 PM +0100
Moderation posted.

It was not easy as I was either victim either responsible for the 3 incidents.
I was helped in my moderation by the commentaries of several other moderators.

I hope Francesco and Tristan (and also Clive, one of the victims) will agree with my moderation.