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Title: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 27, 2013, 12:55:47 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=416&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (24 laps)

Track: Anglesey Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg109873#post_anglesey)

Cars allowed: Austin Mini Cooper, Lotus Cortina, Jaguar MkII, Ford Anglia Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ford_anglia), Daimler V8 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_daimler_v8)

The 5-speed Ford Anglia's are not to be used as they overheat and cook the engine.

Car restrictions: Two drives maximum per make. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdERkanNHZ1dQaVBBTnJUVHhmdWNuYlE&usp=sharing)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Erling G-P on February 06, 2014, 10:30:22 AM +0000
Anyone done any testing ?  Got some laptimes ? What's a fast lap here ?   Inquisitive minds wants to know..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 06, 2014, 10:35:46 AM +0000
I'll post mine tonight


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Erling G-P on February 06, 2014, 10:58:38 AM +0000
Thanks Tony; was about to ask if you could add a Land Rover to the cars, considering the amount of time I spent off-roading, when I did some track familiarisation last night..   ;D

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 06, 2014, 12:27:47 PM +0000
Know what you mean. That tight left hander at the end of that long sweeping section of track takes some judgement.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 06, 2014, 07:10:25 PM +0000
Anyone done any testing ?  Got some laptimes ? What's a fast lap here ?   Inquisitive minds wants to know..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

My best so far is a 1:40.7


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Erling G-P on February 07, 2014, 12:13:36 AM +0000
Anyone done any testing ?  Got some laptimes ? What's a fast lap here ?   Inquisitive minds wants to know..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

My best so far is a 1:40.7

Thanks Tony, that's very close to what I was getting, once I stopped picknicking every lap  :)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: nafe1981 on February 07, 2014, 12:16:41 AM +0000
how do I join this im currently using the pilsbierbude servers and theres no one on really was thinking that there must be a way to join another server? any help greatly appreciated


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:03:08 AM +0000
how do I join this im currently using the pilsbierbude servers and theres no one on really was thinking that there must be a way to join another server? any help greatly appreciated

We use the Simbin server as most newbies are getting the Steam GTL digital download these days so it makes more sense to be where their looking. Check your main GTL folder for a file called

LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT

If you have it change the contents (using Notepad) to read this

gtlsrv.race-game.com

If you don't have this file create one using Notepad but be sure to use Caps for the file name exactly as shown above.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 08, 2014, 01:25:09 PM +0000
Ok guys I think I am doing something basically wrong when I download and install new cars. Or, I have toggled something off as regards sounds.

I can d/load and place circuits in the "Locations" folder no problem and the track is accessible.

But, I do not get any engine sounds for the cars I have selected.  All the ambient noises are there, plus skidding and road noise etc, but the engine in my chosen car is silent!!

I have played with the sound slider controls etc under the "Options/ Audio" button but that makes no difference.
I have re-downloaded the Anglia several times but I do not seem to get any audio files for it? Certainly in the "Sounds" folder under "Game Data" there is nothing for the Anglia, although there are plenty of other cars there, all with their own sounds.

So I tried the Mini Cooper, just to see if that worked, but no engine sound there either??? As this is a car from the GTL install I am now concerned that I have something corrupted? Should I re-Install GTL and start afresh?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2014, 01:57:27 PM +0000
You had a sound problem at Norisring too didn't you. As you have tried several cars with the same result that kinda rules out a GTL mod install problem. Especially as the mini is a standard car. Before you go down the reinstall everything route perhaps try to find a latest driver for your sound card? Or run dxdiag by going Start/all programs/accessories/command prompt and typing in dxdiag then follow the prompts.
Maybe also go Control Panel/System and Security/System/Device Manager and see if there are any yellow exclamation marks under Sound and Game Controllers.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 08, 2014, 02:24:35 PM +0000
The sound card is quite new and works fine for everything else, so I don't think that is the problem ( but what do I know??!). Besides which, this problem only relates to the ENGINE SOUND in GTL, all other sounds are there...road noise , skidding, crowd,wind, commentator etc.  I cannot hear any engine sounds, not even from other cars, but I can hear everything else.
It is almost as if I do not have the particular file that relates to engine sounds.....but I cannot see how I can be missing ALL of them.

Question...
If I open up the   C:\ GTLegends/Game Data/ Sounds/Cars  folder, surely I should see a folder there for the Anglia or Mini etc,  because I do not!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2014, 02:30:24 PM +0000
The Anglia uses the Lotus car sounds. The Mini sounds are listed under Austin. If you double click any of the .wav files you should hear a sound, do you?

In the Anglia folder there is a file called Anglia.aud. Open this file with Notepad and it tells you which sound files it's using.

BTW is this happening offline and online?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 08, 2014, 03:25:41 PM +0000
OK this happens offline and online.

I found the Anglia .aud file and that refers to the Lotus Cortina sounds as you suggested it would. However, when I look in the Sounds/Cars folder....no Lotus Cortina  or Austin either???

Just to be sure I am looking in the right place for these .wav sound files....

C:\ GTLegends\GameData\Sounds\Cars.

Also discovered something a bit worrying which I need to sort. If I just double click on a random .wav file for maybe the Lola T70 it boots up Grand Prix Legends!!  I need to change the association of .wav files to Windows Media Player , how the heck it picked up the GPL.exe link is a mystery!!??

EDIT****  .wav files now play with Win Media Player and DO NOT start GPL. But still zero engine noises from cars.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2014, 07:08:43 PM +0000
I'm creating a download for you of all the standard car sound files. I'll add the link here later tonight when it's done.

Unzip it into the GTLegends/Gamedata/Sounds/Cars folder

http://www.mediafire.com/download/zlrr1azvnb8yt19/Standard_car_sounds.zip


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 08, 2014, 09:56:15 PM +0000
Many thanks Tony. D/loading now and hopefully this clears the problem.

Could you post a screenshot of what your "Sounds" folder looks like, because frankly, mine does not look right to me.

Within the Sounds folder I would have expected to see a folder for "Cars" and inside that a separate file for each car that I have downloaded, containing the relevant sound files.  My current "Sounds" folder contains folders labelled :-

Alfa 33-3
Ambient
Cars
Cars1
DCH
Ferrari 312P
ferrari 512scl
GTR
Lalo T70
Matra MS650
Min_SA
P908-2
Pit
Porsche_917k

and then beneath that a huge list of .wav files which seem to relate to every car in the above list plus a good few others from 914 Porsche to Vette.

I am beginning to think ( actually it looks pretty damn certain!!) that somehow I have "exploded" my Sounds folder and screwed the whole thing, so that GTL cannot find the relevant sound files for the engine noises?

I am thinking I might create a new Sounds folder ( rename my existing to "duff Sounds" ) and put your "Cars" folder in there along with "Ambient" and "PIT"??


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 08, 2014, 10:23:48 PM +0000
Just dropped your "Cars" folder into my "Sounds" file and.............hallejulah!! I am no longer deaf!! ...

is Tony the messiah?  or just a very naughty boy? ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 08, 2014, 10:28:24 PM +0000
 :lol:

The Cars folder will contain all the sounds required by the "Standard" car files. Also you will see folders containing the sound files required by "Mod" cars.

Glad your now fixed.



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 09, 2014, 03:58:39 PM +0000
Race Announcement revised

In testing I have discovered that the 5 speed Ford Anglia's are prone to overheating and will cook the engine. I have now removed the effected cars from the server and they are not available for selection.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: BillThomas on February 10, 2014, 04:37:13 PM +0000
Took PC to Computer Builder this morning to have Win 7 Professional on original HD and make computer dual boot - only problem they have loads of work.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: phspok on February 10, 2014, 07:05:17 PM +0000
A real on board lap (most of it) in my 106  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl3PzuapURM


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 10, 2014, 07:13:41 PM +0000
Great stuff mate. And blue sky's too!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: phspok on February 10, 2014, 07:16:22 PM +0000
And it was October!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: phspok on February 10, 2014, 08:49:48 PM +0000
Cleaned up pedals were breaking contact again, swapped for MS Sidewinder, but the pedals are so different
I kept lifting too hard. or riding the brake and was a danger to other road users so left.  :taz:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: SpecialKS on February 10, 2014, 09:10:40 PM +0000
Looks like the Anglia is the best car for this series - and I've got only one drive left  ??? :-[ :(

The Jag tank was the wrong choice for this one (however I was only about one second faster in the
Mini/Cortina but even less consistent).
Gave up demoralized after about 10 laps.

Have fun guys  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: SpecialKS on February 10, 2014, 09:25:10 PM +0000
Took PC to Computer Builder this morning to have Win 7 Professional on original HD and make computer dual boot - only problem they have loads of work.  ;D


Hope you get your problems sorted.

Thinking about a multi boot system too (XP, 7 and a Linux version), but that will still require a lot of time  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 10, 2014, 09:54:56 PM +0000
Replay and Results now posted.

Hope you get your pedals fixed soon Matt.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Erling G-P on February 10, 2014, 11:15:19 PM +0000
Now that was hard work !  ;D

The Mini struck me as the perfect choice for this very tight track - all others seemed positively oversized, and offline practice suggested I would be fastest in it.

Knocked over ½ sec off my previous best during qualify, so naturally very chuffed about that.  Alas, just as I was feeling smug about my pole, in swoops Mr. Evil and snatches it from under my nose..   :blink:

For once made a decent start and didn't loose any places.  Had to drive each lap as if I was trying to qualify, just to stay somewhat in touch with a Clive on fire. Around midrace however, it was painfully obvious I couldn't  keep pace. No time to relax though, as I suddenly noticed my comfortable gap to 3rd had started to dwindle - fast!  Hitched up the Mini's skirts once again and pushed as hard as I could.  Noticed at the hairpin that my pursuer was Evert. "Uh oh, probably still pi**ed at me for knocking him off at Norisring.."  Some extra motivation to stay ahead then, but the gap inexorably continued to drop.  Fortunately, the race ended before he could catch me. :sweatdrop:

Congrats to Clive on a perfect drive and the win!  :clap:

Hope Matt, Bill and everyone else with problems gets them sorted - oh and cool video from the real track Matt!

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 11, 2014, 08:53:54 AM +0000
Really impressive pace in the Mini Erling, just couldn't get anymore out of mine.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 11, 2014, 09:51:24 AM +0000
I have to confess that it was a very nice feeling to eventually get in a decent performance with GTL. Grats to all those who finished and to Wiley who kept me honest for the whole race where one big mistake on my part could have changed the result.

When the away team at Blue Moose Racing saw "Anglesey" as the venue last week, I thought we would be in trouble. A new track, and as I had missed the first round in this championship some new cars to get to grips with as well  :-\. The technical department ( Mabel and Arnold Glutbucket) set about planning the visit to these foreign shores, somewhere off the North Coast of Wales.

Money is tight at Blue Moose, so the Boss "Bob Kayak Bob" "the ever revolving head honcho around these parts" passed a plain brown envelope to the assembled team and sent us on our way with a motivational speech which was difficult to hear through his clenched cigar, but sounded like "now bugger off you bunch of losers". We had assumed that the envelope contained cash for our expenses, but we discovered otherwise when we stopped to fill the transporter with diesel and passed the cashier 6 Mcdonald's children's meal vouchers!!!

Eventually we reached the Welsh coast and had to find a way across the water ( it was only on the way home that we discovered that there is actually a bridge!!!).
Arnold, being the resourceful neanderthal that he is, stole a skip from a local building site and whittled two large oars from a couple of scaffold planks. Mabel helped lift the Anglebox into the skip, once we had it in the water , grumbles about "we should have used the Mini" were ignored. We all climbed aboard and Arnold gallantly passed Mabel the oars and suggested she got on with it.

We ran aground on a shingle beach just below the circuit, which had nothing to do with navigational skill and more to do with the prevailing wind...Arnold's prevailing wind!!!  which we were trying to get away from.

We used Mabel's corsets to fashion a large slingshot that fired the car up the cliffs and into the paddock. The crossing and watching Mabel's face as she strained and heaved on those oars had left me exhausted, so I grabbed a few hours sleep before qually started.
True to form they forgot to wake me and I found myself with only a few minutes to post a laptime. I rushed out onto the track with race fuel and somehow posted a pole position lap once the tyres were warmed up. I was a little surprised and somewhat nervous to find myself on pole against the more experienced members hereabouts, but I was more concerned with a strange addition to the dashboard and was going to ignore it....
But, Arnold had been reading about the latest F1 engines and had "improvised" his own KERS system on the Anglia. If I had known before taking to the track I might have demanded that he remove it  :o but there was no time.

One would not have thought that attaching one end of Mabel's knicker elastic to the prop shaft and bolting the other to the floor pan beneath my seat could store so much kinetic energy!!!. All Arnold had said was "When you get to the straight brace yourself, pull that red lever and hold on to the steering wheel....really hold on!!".......geez!! he was not kidding.
Henry Ford had never dreamed that his Anglia could reach escape velocity I am sure, the little red pointy thing on the dashboard went around twice and flew off as the scenery rushed towards me. I just wish Arnold's enthusiasm had extended to the braking dept too, as getting the thing slowed for that nasty left hander at the end of the straight was my biggest problem. A couple of times we exited that corner firmly on 2 wheels, or rather not very firmly, on two wheels.

TBH I was worried that I was pushing too hard early on and it might bite me back with worn tyres in later laps. So once I had a 3 second lead, I settled down to maintain the gap and watched Wiley Coyote's mini as I exited the hairpin each lap, just to be sure that he was not launching a surprise attack.
Steadily the gap grew and I was able to ease back in the final laps still with plenty of rubber to play with, both in the tyre dept and the elastic KERS dept!! ( is "KERS" an abbreviation of knicKERS? I wonder).

Really enjoyed screaming the Anglia around this track and finally having the confidence to seriously abuse the engine and still not losing more than 1% on health....we are learning.  

The Evil has landed ..... ;D  need to practice with some of the other tintops for the next rounds.






Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 11, 2014, 10:50:39 AM +0000
Evil, whose your publisher?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 11, 2014, 12:06:16 PM +0000
I had planned to take the Anglia but with the long game strategy in mind I opted for one of my slower drives, the Mini. I knew I wouldn't win but I hoped to gather as many points as possible, also saving the Anglia for later races. I had been 4th at one point but mistakes and faster drivers slipped me back to 6th/7th. Had an almost race long battle with Michael with us both making errors and allowing the other past. I spent ages chasing him, reducing his lead by fractions of seconds, until he finaly slipped up and I passed him. Managed to build a lead and he stayed behind me to the flag.
Shame I'm not at the next one, Pembrey is a good circuit IMO. Hope you enjoy it.
Congrats to Clive on the win.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Erling G-P on February 11, 2014, 12:08:15 PM +0000
Lol Clive, very amusing read once again  :D

With the amounts of smoke you were laying under braking early on, I was hoping your tyres might give up the ghost before mine, but unfortunately for me, that wasn't to be..  ;)

Really impressive pace in the Mini Erling, just couldn't get anymore out of mine.

Thanks Tony. Back when I was practicing for the previous race, I was very surprised, if not outright shocked to find, that only in the 165 bhp Anglia could I lap faster than in the Mini.  Was and am using an old Whoopster setup, kindly provided by Bill, which may be the key.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 11, 2014, 07:18:26 PM +0000
I for one look forward to the (hopefully) continuing exploits of Arnold and Mabel and all at Blue Moose. Even passed it to Mrs Wiltshire but it only confirmed her suspicions that were all blithering basket cases. What does she know eh  ::)
Do the team know Pembrey?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: EvilClive on February 11, 2014, 10:35:19 PM +0000
Arnold assures me that Pembrey is the name of a local delicacy in rural Gloucestershire, something to do with eel larvae baked in a shortcrust pastry.

Apparently Mabel is planning to bake some this weekend and I have just remembered that my grandmother is going to be very ill in Aberdeen next Saturday!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Anglesey - Feb 10
Post by: chmichel on February 13, 2014, 12:20:54 PM +0000
Hi Guys,

It was a nice race, a clean one for sure, took a good start from 4th and then I passed Evert to take 3rd position which I kept for a couple of laps then I started to do so mistakes and at one corner I did a spin and a couple of guys passed me then had a long battle with Tony which ended by him taking 5th and me 6th overall.

looking forward for next race !

Cheers All