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Title: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 27, 2013, 01:08:13 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=416&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (28 laps)

Track: Mallory Park Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg187122#post_mallory)

Cars allowed: Austin Mini Cooper, Lotus Cortina, Jaguar MkII, Ford Anglia Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_ford_anglia), Daimler V8 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_daimler_v8)

The 5-speed Ford Anglia's are not to be used as they overheat and cook the engine.

Car restrictions: Two drives maximum per make. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdERkanNHZ1dQaVBBTnJUVHhmdWNuYlE&usp=sharing)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on February 23, 2014, 03:36:03 PM +0000
Race Announcement revised

5 speed Ford Anglia's removed from series


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 26, 2014, 07:16:56 PM +0100
Subscription time again folks, please give generously  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: EvilClive on August 30, 2014, 08:26:08 PM +0100
Hmmmmm.  Not sure about this Mallory Park Track.

Is it a short twisty circuit?...or
Is it basically a fast oval, with just one hairpin??

So, do you want power and speed?..or
Do you need great roadholding??

Would the Mini be a good choice here? or does it suit that comfy armchair which is the 4.5litre V8 Daimler??

Either way my attempts to tame Mallory are just under 57 secs when I get it right, but I am discovering that this track is not as simple as it looks......unlike me  :w00t:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 31, 2014, 05:53:41 PM +0100
55.9 in my wagon


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: EvilClive on August 31, 2014, 09:06:48 PM +0100
55.9!!
If that is in the Mini, then I need someone to teach me how to drive the awkward little thing ! :-\ or a brain transplant lol.

The mini just seems to reverse all the rules of driving sims. Almost any other car in any sim that I have tried, can be set up to understeer with power on, and revert to oversteer when you lift off. But the Mini appears to do the opposite!! and my muscle memory and instincts are fighting my brain at every corner  :wacko:



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 01, 2014, 12:46:52 PM +0100
There is an outside chance that I will not be able to make tonight's race  :(

Just in case, I have set the server to the race password.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: phspok on September 01, 2014, 02:56:39 PM +0100
I will be there this evening if anything needs doing.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: SpecialKS on September 01, 2014, 09:00:31 PM +0100
Early bath for me - in lap five I touched the curbs in the hairpin and had a rollover.
Couldn't avoid Bill who jumped up to the banquette and was stucked there.
Tried to help Bill down the banqette and was stuck myself  ???

Sorry Bill

Anyway - nice funny but tricky little track.
Was missing nearly one second in 10 minutes quali to the session before :(

Have fun guys.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: BillThomas on September 01, 2014, 09:13:55 PM +0100
Early bath for me - in lap five I touched the curbs in the hairpin and had a rollover.
Couldn't avoid Bill who jumped up to the banquette and was stucked there.
Tried to help Bill down the banqette and was stuck myself  ???

Sorry Bill

Anyway - nice funny but tricky little track.
Was missing nearly one second in 10 minutes quali to the session before :(

Have fun guys.

From my car you just barrel rolled on top of me.  It just rounded off a terrible night's racing.  When I first joined my sound was intermittent so I logged off and tried rejoining without success. Rebooted but got delayed whilst a programmed maintenance task took place.  After that we all got dumped and had to rejoin to continue my bad luck. ??? ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 01, 2014, 10:20:51 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted.

SpecialKS is disqualified for using an illegal car choice.

Apologies for the muck up with the lap no's.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Erling G-P on September 01, 2014, 11:10:01 PM +0100
That was a fairly hectic and yet uneventful race.

Couldn't quite match my offline pb in qualy, but still managed to snatch pole by a mere 5/1000 of a sec.  Got decently off the line and into the lead at the start.  Kept Geoffers behind for almost 4 laps, but inevitably he slipped past - by a kamikaze outbraking manoeuvre at the hairpin, which really should have seen him overshoot, but he still got away faster than I could squeeze past on the inside.  Tried to keep up, but he quickly extended the gap.  Hoped the one-sided tyre wear of the Mini would make his fronts go before mine, but it seemed rather the opposite - I struggled increasingly with a left front that was taking a pounding, while he seemed to continue his pace unabated.  Quite lonely race after Geoffers slipped away; gap to 3rd kept growing too, so didn't see any other cars, except for a couple of backmarkers.

Grats to Geoffers for a convincing win  :notworthy:

Commiserations to Kurt, Bill & Matt, who all seemed to have bad luck early on.

Bill: Regarding your sound problems; is it only in GTL ?   Occasionally, I may loose one or both channels of my sound, which is normally down to contamination of the contact surfaces in plugs and/or sockets, either on soundcard (main board), or in the speakers.  Moving the plugs in and out repeatedly scrapes it off, so contact is reestablished.

Clive: I have your chrome headlight surrounds - you left them at the hairpin. Just let me know where to send them...  ;D

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Geoffers on September 02, 2014, 11:13:22 AM +0100
Kept Geoffers behind for almost 4 laps, but inevitably he slipped past - by a kamikaze outbraking manoeuvre at the hairpin, which really should have seen him overshoot

Yeh, sorry about that Erling  :oops:. I knew from the previous laps that the Mini was better on the brakes there, but it was a bit more kamikaze than I intended. In fact I think I locked the fronts which made the car plough straight on rather than turning.

Enjoyed the race, great fun hurling the Mini around, just a couple of small mistakes at the Esses. Once I braked too much & got very sideways & only just saved it & another time I went in a bit too quick & had a trip across the grass! Shame we lost a few early on but once you get on that bank there is no escape!

Well done to all finishers  :clap: Cya soon.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2014, 01:10:23 PM +0100
Good fun last night. Started well and settled down to running in third. Had Clive chase me for quite a few laps and built a 10sec lead until I went in to hot at turn 1. Clive then passed me but I was able to catch him up after a few laps.
Then it was a lonely run to the flag.

Erling looks to have wrapped up this Championship but the battle for 2nd & 3rd looks quite tasty especially with only two to go.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Erling G-P on September 02, 2014, 06:49:11 PM +0100
Kept Geoffers behind for almost 4 laps, but inevitably he slipped past - by a kamikaze outbraking manoeuvre at the hairpin, which really should have seen him overshoot

Yeh, sorry about that Erling  :oops:. I knew from the previous laps that the Mini was better on the brakes there, but it was a bit more kamikaze than I intended. In fact I think I locked the fronts which made the car plough straight on rather than turning.

No problem Geoffers - no contact after all  :)  Was sure I could do the classic 'dive under' manoeuvre, so very surprised when you recovered quickly enough to stay in front - but then, the Mini did seem very quick through and out of the hairpin.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: SpecialKS on September 02, 2014, 07:00:07 PM +0100
It really doesn't matter because I had to quit the race in a very early stage,
but why did you disqualify me due to an illegal car choice ???
The #162 Anglia (the Gulf-like skin) has only 4 gears and I already used this
one once or twice before.
Thanks for a short explanation.

Cu next week.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: EvilClive on September 02, 2014, 08:50:05 PM +0100
Grats to Geoffers on a dominant win and demonstartion of how a mini should be handled.
I felt obliged to use the Mini for this race, as I still had 4 potential drives left having missed 2 races and 2 of those drives were for the mingey.

As I posted pre race, I was finding it a bit of a handful, but was relatively happy with how I slowly chipped away at my PB. The setup was built from pure experimentation and hope, so with no idea of what to expect it was not too bad.

Once we got into the race it became apparent that maybe I had selected the wrong gear set as I was losing 2-3 tenths to everyone coming out of the hairpin. I would be interested to know what gear set Geoffers was using. I had opted for the highest ratios as that gave me a solid 3rd gear right around T1, so that I hit the rev limit just as the car straightened up and I dropped into 4th. But at the hairpin I found that although 1st gear was OK ( as I threw it at the apex), I needed 2nd almost immediately and the car almost stopped when the revs dropped.
Maybe I am still being too cautious with these engines as I make sure I upshift as soon as any warning light flickers.

The race was good fun especially chasing Tony in his Anglia...oh how I envied you and your car choice  :cursing: as you pulled ever so slowly, but surely, away from me on each lap.

At least I have some real cars to use for the last 2 rounds with the driving wheels where they should be  ;)

Erling....If all you found were 2 chrome headlamp surrounds , might I suggest Specsavers?? There should be a sump, radiator, front nearside wing and at least 2 wheels lying around that area after my somewhat "unconventional"  entry to the hairpin on the final lap. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2014, 09:32:26 PM +0100
It really doesn't matter because I had to quit the race in a very early stage,
but why did you disqualify me due to an illegal car choice ???
The #162 Anglia (the Gulf-like skin) has only 4 gears and I already used this
one once or twice before.
Thanks for a short explanation.

Cu next week.

You are restricted to two drives per make in this series. This race was your THIRD drive in the Ford Anglia.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Geoffers on September 02, 2014, 11:31:53 PM +0100
I would be interested to know what gear set Geoffers was using. I had opted for the highest ratios as that gave me a solid 3rd gear right around T1, so that I hit the rev limit just as the car straightened up and I dropped into 4th. But at the hairpin I found that although 1st gear was OK ( as I threw it at the apex), I needed 2nd almost immediately and the car almost stopped when the revs dropped.
Maybe I am still being too cautious with these engines as I make sure I upshift as soon as any warning light flickers.

Yeh you definitely had the wrong gears there Clive, I was using the lowest ratio. It meant that I was on the limiter in top on the pit straight & the back straight, but the Mini engine is quite robust & will stand plenty of abuse. I took Gerards (T1) in top, then dropped briefly to 3rd for the Esses to help with turn-in, changing up mid corner, again this helps the car turn & finally used 2nd for the hairpin. I tried medium gears in practice but found them 2-3 tenths a lap slower.

You must have missed my chat message during qually. I uploaded my setup in the online files in the Mallory folder, 'mini' right at the bottom of the list. I think Rog gave it a try, not sure if it helped him though!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Erling G-P on September 03, 2014, 12:07:38 AM +0100
Erling....If all you found were 2 chrome headlamp surrounds , might I suggest Specsavers?? There should be a sump, radiator, front nearside wing and at least 2 wheels lying around that area after my somewhat "unconventional"  entry to the hairpin on the final lap. ::)

Well me eyes aren't getting better for sure, but it was only the two surrounds.  Someone else must have nicked the rest...  ;)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/erling2792/GTL%20screenshots/GRAB_012copy.jpg~original)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: SpecialKS on September 03, 2014, 08:51:55 PM +0100
It really doesn't matter because I had to quit the race in a very early stage,
but why did you disqualify me due to an illegal car choice ???
The #162 Anglia (the Gulf-like skin) has only 4 gears and I already used this
one once or twice before.
Thanks for a short explanation.

Cu next week.

You are restricted to two drives per make in this series. This race was your THIRD drive in the Ford Anglia.


My bad - sorry.  :wheelchair:  Completey overlooked that   :eek: - the Anglia simply is (was) one of my favorites in GTL.  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 03, 2014, 09:00:32 PM +0100
Yep, the Anglia is a sweet drive alright.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 British Saloon Car Cup - Mallory Park - Sep 1
Post by: BillThomas on September 05, 2014, 06:49:13 PM +0100



Commiserations to Kurt, Bill & Matt, who all seemed to have bad luck early on.

Bill: Regarding your sound problems; is it only in GTL ?   Occasionally, I may loose one or both channels of my sound, which is normally down to contamination of the contact surfaces in plugs and/or sockets, either on soundcard (main board), or in the speakers.  Moving the plugs in and out repeatedly scrapes it off, so contact is reestablished.


Cheers,
Erling

Thanks Erling, tried that the first time it happened; eventually using my all in one, antivirus and malware plus computer maintenance package found the problem to be due to file clutter generated I suspect by the package.  Once that was deleted all was well, so now I need to remember to de-clutter the system before I start racing which I forgot in my haste t0 join you folks.  ::) :oops: :censored: