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Title: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 27, 2013, 07:47:42 PM +0000
Championship Standings here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=414&theme=5)

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (36 laps)

Track: Zeltweg (Osterreichring 1970) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_osring70)

Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo Tipo 33-3 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_alfa_tipo_333), Ferrari 312P Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ferrari312p), Ferrari 512S Code Lunga Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ferrari512s), Lola T70 Mk3B/C Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_lolat70), Matra Simca MS650 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_matra_simca), Porsche 908/2 and 908/03 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_porsche908), Porsche 917K Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_porsche917k).

Modern tyre fix must be applied to the relevant cars. Full details here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12159.msg218178#msg218178)

Car restrictions: Two drives maximum per make *. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdGl0aWt3YWM4dkdMZGZhQlFwaTBqcVE&usp=sharing). *Drivers may elect to drop one make entirely and add two bonus drives with one other make.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

Server: simracing.org.uk Monday
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 15, 2013, 05:35:48 PM +0000
Race announcement revised

Porsche 917L removed from series.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 15, 2013, 11:48:05 PM +0000
Race announcement revised

Rule change regarding No. of drives per make.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 07, 2014, 09:31:47 PM +0000
Race announcement revised

Message and link for Modern tyre fix added.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: SpecialKS on May 06, 2014, 08:39:07 PM +0100
Unfortunately I'm away on my summer holidays for this one


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on May 06, 2014, 10:52:56 PM +0100
Unfortunately I'm away on my summer holidays for this one
Is that code for more rehab? Have fun  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: SpecialKS on May 07, 2014, 08:02:42 PM +0100
Not at all - these holidays were already planned long before
the rehab was approved.
But indeed - this year seems to be a little bit special  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: BillThomas on June 08, 2014, 12:14:52 PM +0100
Wife taking me for Fathers Day trip to Cornwall for couple of days.  Based on last "West Country" tour hope to get picked up and dropped off here at Burnham and hence make this race, albeit perhaps just before the start.  Fingers crossed.

Whilst I think about it, Tony could I omit the Ferraris and have bonus drives with the Porsches please?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 08, 2014, 03:41:09 PM +0100
Tony could I omit the Ferraris and have bonus drives with the Porsches please?
You got it


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Erling G-P on June 12, 2014, 10:52:22 AM +0100
Does anyone have any setup tips for the 512, for giving it more front-end grip ?

Really want to like it, but it under- under- understeers in corners, causing me to run wide time and time again.  It should be one of the fastest cars, but I can pretty much match my laptimes in it with the Lola-Maserati, and am quicker in the Alfa, so something is clearly not right.

Any input will be much appreciated  :)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: goldtop on June 12, 2014, 04:58:15 PM +0100
Does anyone have any setup tips for the 512, for giving it more front-end grip ?

Really want to like it, but it under- under- understeers in corners, causing me to run wide time and time again.  It should be one of the fastest cars, but I can pretty much match my laptimes in it with the Lola-Maserati, and am quicker in the Alfa, so something is clearly not right.

Any input will be much appreciated  :)

Cheers,
Erling

My testing produced similar findings, which is why I'll be in the Lola. Actually this is one of my favourite cars on one of my favourite tracks so looking forward to it especially as it's not the version with that poxy chicane.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Erling G-P on June 13, 2014, 09:03:58 AM +0100
Tony could I omit the Ferraris and have bonus drives with the Porsches please?
You got it

Tony, I'd like to do the same as Bill, except for exchanging the Matra for Porsche drives.

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2014, 09:15:09 AM +0100
Tony, I'd like to do the same as Bill, except for exchanging the Matra for Porsche drives.

Cheers,
Erling

Sorted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 13, 2014, 12:41:40 PM +0100
Looks like the only World Cup footy match to clash with this event (e.g. 20:00 BST kick off) is Iran -v- Nigeria.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: phspok on June 16, 2014, 06:33:10 PM +0100
Don't understand why I am showing 4 drives in the cars list but only 2 drives in the championship?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2014, 06:34:34 PM +0100
Don't understand why I am showing 4 drives in the cars list but only 2 drives in the championship?
Hmmm let me check that

EDIT: You have had four cars. Porsche at Monza, Lola at Spa, Matra at Nurburgring and Ferrari at Le Mans.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: phspok on June 16, 2014, 06:56:21 PM +0100
Right, so does 5th place not score any points now?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2014, 07:52:03 PM +0100
Right, so does 5th place not score any points now?
Yep, and your 5th scored 18 points?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: phspok on June 16, 2014, 08:22:06 PM +0100
I was 8th at the ring, but scored nothing. I was 10th somewhere else and I dont show in the championship?
I'm missing something.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: EvilClive on June 16, 2014, 08:31:33 PM +0100
Announcement says Zeltweg, but server says Road America GP???????

I have both tracks but server tells me "track not loaded", probably just as well because I have not practised either circuit with these cars.  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2014, 10:22:39 PM +0100
Announcement says Zeltweg, but server says Road America GP???????

I have both tracks but server tells me "track not loaded", probably just as well because I have not practised either circuit with these cars.  ;)

Because the server said Road America GP and not Zeltweg it shows that you had the incorrect track for tonights race installed. BTW you missed a corker  :(


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2014, 10:24:41 PM +0100
I was 8th at the ring, but scored nothing. I was 10th somewhere else and I dont show in the championship?
I'm missing something.

I believe that Dave's scoring algorithm penalises drivers who don't finish. I will ask him to clarify this for all of us.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2014, 10:26:21 PM +0100
Results and replay now posted

Great turnout guys.

Watkins Glen in about a months time. Should be tasty  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 16, 2014, 10:42:24 PM +0100
It appears that Bill Thomas ran a car that he was not entitled to drive e.g. exceeded the 2 drives limit. I will check all previous results to confirm this. If found to be the case then he will be DQ'd from this event.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: SortedGeeza on June 16, 2014, 10:51:47 PM +0100
Looking forward to this... gonna practise some pitstops methinks ! lol  ::)



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2014, 01:11:15 AM +0100
Looking forward to this... gonna practise some pitstops methinks ! lol  ::)

I think your confusing your Zeltweg with your A1-Ring  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: BillThomas on June 17, 2014, 06:42:32 AM +0100
It appears that Bill Thomas ran a car that he was not entitled to drive e.g. exceeded the 2 drives limit. I will check all previous results to confirm this. If found to be the case then he will be DQ'd from this event.

Was planning to drive Porsche but checked and thought I still had one Lola drive left. I enjoyed the night so DQ is OK with me. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: goldtop on June 17, 2014, 08:46:20 AM +0100
Enjoyed that  :)

I had a good start and got round T1 cleanly allowing me to get away from the 917s which could have made it difficult if they had got ahead. Built a bit of a gap and then eased off a little as I knew tyre wear would be a problem later on.

The Lola was a great drive but was a bit of a handful through those 2 off camber left handers. Was fun using a bit of opposite lock and throttle control to muscle it round there but became very tricky in the later laps as tyre wear took effect and I had a coupe of offs  :o

Already looking forward to the Glen  8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: BillThomas on June 17, 2014, 10:55:35 AM +0100
It appears that Bill Thomas ran a car that he was not entitled to drive e.g. exceeded the 2 drives limit. I will check all previous results to confirm this. If found to be the case then he will be DQ'd from this event.

Yes Tony, my error looked in the wrong place, my none finish at Imola with no points not flagged up in the table of Results.  Therefore forgot why I added my extra Porsche drives, also been looking at setups for next weeks race where that Series has 3 drives per car.  I flipped a cog memory wise.  :oops: :hammer:  It's me age Y'no.  :wheelchair: :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: BillThomas on June 17, 2014, 11:13:49 AM +0100
Apart from driving a car I'd already raced twice, it was a good night for me apart from hitting SortedGeeza and messing up my suspension.

Had new PBs in qualifying and race - only 5.5 secs off gt's time in race, in mitigation I did have a reduced fuel load and all new tyres.  (It was easier to take default with a quick tap of Return than mess about.)  SortedGeeza was going slowly with a flat and I found him driving slowly just after a blind corner with me flat in 5th.  After a very long pit stop I came out behind SortedGeeza who gave me bags of room and I enjoy myself seeing how quick I could go.  

Nice car/track combo and enjoyable drive even though, as I deserve, I'm disqualified.  Such is life.  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: roguk on June 17, 2014, 02:02:27 PM +0100
Grats to Goldtop on win
Great Track choice Tony enjoyed the race, wondered would i finish as all tires bottom of the red, could not pit as forgot to switch on joytokey   no buttons working, so apologies to all for not saying sorry or thanks, sorry for tap lap 1 Tony.

If poss Tony could I omit the Ferraris and have bonus drives with the Porsches please.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2014, 06:42:21 PM +0100
If poss Tony could I omit the Ferraris and have bonus drives with the Porsches please.

All done


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on June 17, 2014, 06:53:42 PM +0100
One of my favourite tracks and I really enjoyed taking the Alfa for this one. Found qualifying to be one of the best sessions in this series as so many drivers were within seconds of each other. A bit disappointed that Roger didn't allow me to regain my place after his love tap at Texaco-Schikane on lap one, nuff said   :nono:.
Still I enjoyed chasing the pack and trying to keep up with the fast guys. Came across that bad accident at Jochen-Rindt-Kurve whilst I was trying to pass Geezer and only narrowly avoided a full on hit into Matt's car. Just clipped him but judging by the replay, his car had recently received some harder knocks than the one he received from me.
Remainder of the race was hot lapping and trying to reel in Roger but he kept up his pace right to the end.
Nice turnout, good to have Geezer back with us.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on June 17, 2014, 07:45:58 PM +0100
I was 8th at the ring, but scored nothing. I was 10th somewhere else and I dont show in the championship?
I'm missing something.

You were classified DNF at both the 'Ring and Monza under the "no laps complete" rule:
  • A driver who does not complete at least one lap will not be classified.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Stefan aka Postal on June 18, 2014, 07:45:11 AM +0100
Had troubles with my ISP so with half an hour to spare i got connected...pffff

Took the AR Tipo for this one with a setup my teamie MJ made for Imola. After some tweaks it went well here, dispite a lack of power against the fast Lola's.

Had a good start and it was a great battle with a lot of cars running closely. Erling was on my case and passed me when i outbraked myself. Also Tony, Roguk and Geeza blasted past. After some good battles managed to get up to 2nd or 3rd. Then i went in too hot into the last long right hander and got a tap from the car behind who probably didn't expected me to go slowly. Tried to let the car freewheel out of the racing line while restarting the engine, unfortunately i was still in the way of an Alfa on race pace and we had quite a big crash.

I believe it was Matt (still have to look at the replay), but whoever it was; sorry for being in your way.
I am not having any luck in this series. Still loving these cars though! (and you guys of course :P)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: phspok on June 18, 2014, 11:08:22 AM +0100
Ahh, thanks Dave I hadn't realised that no laps = no points.
Was a fun race as far as it went. I went right at the start to keep clear of the car in front
and got in someone's way  :wheelchair: Then caught Coyote after he had just passsed me I think, and misjudged how much faster the Alfa
was in corners compared to his and shunted him off, really sorry for that I was trying my best to not
lose momentum and not make contact. Waited and we set off again, came round the final turn and could
see an incident in front, so kept tight to avoid, but one of the cars rolled towards the inside and I bent
my suspension with the bump, car was all over the road, and was trying to get round to the pits when it
went over a wall and health went 0 Game over, ah well.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Erling G-P on June 18, 2014, 07:10:59 PM +0100
Just back from a hernia operation..  :)

Prepared extensively for this race.  With GT running 1:40 laps, I thought I had pole in the bag, when I dipped into the low 1:39s. That was presumptuous however, as he managed to find a few more 10th, to snatch it from under my nose.  Very well done in the Lola, GT!

Had practiced starting on cold tyres and full tank repeatedly offline, but right after qualy on a lighter fuel load, the much different handling characteristics of the 917 with a full tank still caught me out.  Thus my first lap was a very wobbly affair, and I lost two places, dropping to 4th.

Regained 3rd, when Postal went off, and very briefly was in 2nd, when I passed Matt. A tap from him a couple of corners later send me sideways onto the grass. Lost my way momentarily, and ended up on the wrong side of the barrier. Fortunately, there wasn't any collision detection on it, so I could drive straight through, rejoining in 5th.

Passed Roger when he went off, and then made an inside move on Geezer, when exiting the Jochen-Rindt-Kurve. In 3rd then, chasing after Postal. A couple of laps later, he went wide when entering that same curve, and I saw an opportunity to pass him on the inside.  Just as I was about to do so, his car suddenly veered right, straight across my pass - possibly a result of hitting the barrier.  Didn't have time to react, so couldn't avoid contact, which spun him round.  That led to the unfortunate chain reaction of colliding cars, with two retiring.

Truly deeply didn't want any more incidents with Postal. Lately it seems we can't be in a race together, without colliding at some point.  :(  Was in 6th after the incident.  Took some deep digging to find motivation to continue racing, but I eventually clawed my way back up the field, to finish 2nd. Gap to GT was greatly reduced towards the end, so might have had an interesting finish, if I hadn't lost so much time earlier  :)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: BillThomas on June 19, 2014, 10:49:18 AM +0100

Just back from a hernia operation..  :)


Hope all goes well with you convalescence and that we'll soon see you back on track!  ;D :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: Erling G-P on June 19, 2014, 11:21:53 AM +0100

Just back from a hernia operation..  :)


Hope all goes well with you convalescence and that we'll soon see you back on track!  ;D :rockon:

Thanks Bill,

Pretty sore at the moment, so not sure if I'll make the next race, but hope so of course  :)

Cheers,
Erling


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 14 World Championship of Makes - Zeltweg - June 16
Post by: roguk on June 19, 2014, 03:27:25 PM +0100
Tony Said ( A bit disappointed that Roger didn't allow me to regain my place after his love tap at Texaco-Schikane on lap one, nuff said), i have watched replay and am totally in the wrong not correct race effic and should be penalised, my apoligises again Tony.