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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (30 laps)

Track: Paul Ricard 1975 (Le Castellet) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg81636#post_paulricard)

Cars allowed: Alfa Romeo Tipo 33-3 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_alfa_tipo_333), Ferrari 312P Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ferrari312p), Ferrari 512S Code Lunga Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_ferrari512s), Lola T70 Mk3B/C Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_lolat70), Matra Simca MS650 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_matra_simca), Porsche 908/2 and 908/03 Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_porsche908), Porsche 917K Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_porsche917k).

Modern tyre fix must be applied to the relevant cars. Full details here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12159.msg218178#msg218178)

Car restrictions: Two drives maximum per make *. Check your status here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuS59xI7-YTLdGl0aWt3YWM4dkdMZGZhQlFwaTBqcVE&usp=sharing). *Drivers may elect to drop one make entirely and add two bonus drives with one other make.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit stops: Not required

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Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

Special Notes: None

Race announcement revised

Porsche 917L removed from series.

Race announcement revised

Rule change regarding No. of drives per make.

Race announcement revised

Message and link for Modern tyre fix added.

i will be on holiday from this day. Hope to be back for the MWC at Spa!

Well have a great time  :boat:, best behavior mind  :nono:

@ Erling. It's the 1975 version  ;)

 :lol:  Now, that's below the belt; even I wouldn't have asked about that..  ;D

Cheers,
Erling

Always suspected Tony had a sadistic streak.  After trying these cars on this track, all doubt is removed...  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Just tried this and can't set a time because I'm getting a cut warning at the chicane before the Mistral straight. Same thing every time both on our server and offline. Tried removing flag rules offline which stops the warning message but still won't log any laptimes  ???

Needless to say, I'm nowhere near the kerbs. Very strange  :(

Odd, we have raced here before https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10172.msg185189#msg185189 with no probs. Maybe I had the track updated?

I'll look into it tonight.

Weird, I haven't had that problem when testing offline, and just tried online with no problems either (aside from my complete incompatibility with the slow sections of this track  :D)

Have used Lola-Maserati, 512 & 917 offline, 512 online (In case it might be car related).

Cheers,
Erling

Tried a couple more cars and still the same. Deleted and re-installed the track including setup folders and HAT file. Still the same. Tried a car at Imola88 to see if some foo had worked its way into my install and all was ok. Went back to Ricard and tried the 88 version and all was ok  ???

Wondered what the difference was between the 75 and 88 versions of Ricard and then it dawned on me  :-[ I think they might need to put some cones out on that right turn just after the pits  ::)

Sorry to have bothered you, I'll ask nurse to put me back in the window  :wheelchair:

 :oops: :clown: :lol:

Have a good race tonight guys, hard drive went down in week got GTL reinstalled but it keeps closing for some reason so no race tonight for me, see you all next time. :(

Sorry to hear that Roger. Hope your back soon. Keep us posted please.

Results and replay now posted

Goldtop gets a DQ for using a illegal car  :(

EDIT: Following discussions with Goldtop it appears that he did in fact tell me that he would not be using the Matra, at the start of the season. He assumed that this was all that was required of him. We accept that errors on both our parts led to an unfortunate conclusion e.g. His Matra drives were not cancelled or a substitute chosen. I am satisfied that this was an innocent mistake.
His DQ is subsequently rescinded.

How is it ilegal? I used the Lola Mas Mk3c he was in a 3b?

He had already used his allotted drives in the Lola

EDIT: See previous post

Hi    windows tells me GTL has closed do i want to go on line to solve problem, useless no help at all, have just installed GPL and fps is so slow, think it is finding the right graphics driver for my card on win 7 (ati radeon hd 4800). Sad thing i had backed up GTL and GPL on another hard drive but that drive wont even start.

Hi Roger, sorry about your problems.

Are you looking for drivers manually or automatically ?

I tried looking at AMD's driver page.  Depending on whether your Win 7 is 32 or 64 bit, it seems you should use either of these:

32 bit:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows%207%20-%2032

64 bit:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows%207%20-%2064

Each page also contains a link to older drivers, which might be worth trying, if you can't make the newest ones work.

You may also need to set the programs up running as admin - I do that for both GTLConfig.exe and GTL.exe.  The former one won't save the settings I make, unless it's running as admin.

Best of luck with solving the problems.

Cheers,
Erling

I wonder if that's whats happening to Bill? I'll email him and get him to check.

Thanks again Tony and apologies for the fuffle.

Did some pre race testing in the Lola because I was worried about tyre wear which had caused me concern in previous races. I found that by leaning less heavily on the softs I was able to drive similar laptimes to those on the hards and suffer less wear. Was still a bit worried if I'd made the right decision so had to drive a very cautious race and even thought about pitting at one point. Fortunately my gamble paid off and the softs lasted so well I still had enough left to push for my fastest time on the last lap.


I always run both my GTL/GTR2 exes as admin as I heard not doing so can cause problems.

Thanks for replies guys, have downloaded the drivers from Erlings link 64 bit and manually installed, also set GTL running as admin  ;D GTL now seems fine no probs after leaving running for 1 hour, will try GPL later, Thanks for help.

You're welcome Roger; great to hear that it worked  :)

Found this track a real challenge. The long straight screams for fast cars like these, but the slow sections, with a couple of 1st gear corners, were pure agony.

Shaved over 2 secs off my offline pb in qualy, which was necessary for 2nd on the grid, given the fast times the rest of the field was posting.  :o  Made a poor start, and got jumped by both Clive and Tony. Tony spun later on L1, and I narrowly avoided him.  Thus slotted into 3rd.  At first it looked like Clive would give me the slip, but after a number of laps I got closer again.  When he went off into the gravel, I got close enough to slipstream past him on the following lap. 

That set up quite a battle over the next many laps.  I would pull away under power, but he reeled me back in through the corners.  Took a lot of restraint not to run wide in the (oh so) slow sections, with a screaming, maniacal Matra bearing down on you  :)   However, just as he got real close, he pulled into the pits to serve a stop-n-go.  Lucky for me, but a shame for Clive.  My soft tyres were pretty cooked at that point, so doubt I could have kept him behind me much longer.  Clive, apologies if I inadvertently caused you to cut track and get the S&G - I assure you I was doing my level best to go as fast as possible  :)  Looked in the replay like you pitted twice - at least you can't blame me for the 2nd time..  ;D 

With no hope of catching GT, and with over a minute down to 3rd, I could ease off a bit and make sure I made it to the finish.

Grats to GT and all finishers; commiserations to Kurt and Matt, whom we lost along the way - and to Bill in his prolonged absence; hope you're back soon.

Cheers,
Erling

I absolutely hate the Porsche. At no time did I feel in control of it. When accelerating straight the steering moved to the right or to the left with no wheel input from me. Under braking it always wanted to veer right. At turns I experienced lift off understeer and by adding power it drifted to the outside of turns. I had so many offs it got beyond a joke. Thank goodness I only have Lola's left to drive.

Real shame as I think it's a cracking circuit. Something a little more sedate next week  :wheelchair:

It's a very tricky car for sure. It veers right under braking just as you say, but only with a heavy fuel load. So typically it stops doing it, just as you've gotten used to compensate for it (as fuel disappears)

Cheers,
Erling

It was indeed good fun racing with Erling  ;D.  And I do hold him responsible ( well just a little bit!!) for my enforced first stop.  :censored:

I selected the Matra, simply because I had not tried it before and was curious about its potential, especially with that Stuka siren strapped to the nose!!! What an insane noise for a GT car  :o

The start was good and I jumped onto GT's tail. I must have remembered the data about the Lola and the Matra wrong because I thought that the Matra would be quicker on the straight. Imagine my dimay when GT pulled away  ???
I tried to stay with GT as long as I could as his pace was drawing me away from Tony in 3rd spot and later ( although more gradually)  from Erling too.  I was content to maintain my pace and hopefully cling on to 2nd spot as long as possible, but I knew from qually that Erling had some serious pace in that Fezza if he hooked it all up.

It was all going well until I braked a fraction late at the end of the straight and, to avoid a major spin, I opted to run wide and take a gravel bath losing myself precious seconds but at least keeping the car moving in more or less the right direction. That put Erling close on my tail and my dirty tyres finished the job 2 corners later and the Red Thing was through.

What Erling did not know at that point was that I already had 2 "Cut Track" warnings from being a little overenthusiastic in my chase of Gt's Lola, so I had to be very careful where I placed my car. I could see that he was beginning to struggle with tyre wear and tried to keep as close as I could, to take advantage of any mistake. There were a couple of chinks that tempted me but never enough to make a serious effort. So I decided to hassle him a little more and got closer in the twisty sections. Bad Move on my part!!

Erling was having to brake earlier and earlier to keep his Fez tucked into the apexes and I got too close. I did the honourable thing and aborted my move to avoid his tailpipes and ran wide onto the gravel a 3rd time. The Pit Stop God's summoned me. :-\
What followed was a farce and I was glad of the huge gap that I had back to the next car. A SnG was OK and cost me about 11 secs and any chance of getting past Erling unless he made a mistake. Speeding out of the pits angered the Pit Stop God's again and I was summoned to explain myself a second time  >:(   Only to speed yet again and get hauled back in yet again!!!   "Muppet" I hear you cry and quite right too!!

I still managed a much undeserved 3rd spot behind a dominant GT and Erling who should have been made to work harder and longer if I had kept my cool. LOL

When looking at the replay, I did mutter to myself "He's going pretty quick in the pits. I wonder if..."   :lol:

PS: I worked plenty hard to stay ahead for as long as I did..  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Top tip: when leaving your pit box activate the limiter again (it gets turned off when you stop in the pit box). Don't turn it off until you are well clear of the pit lane exit lights/line.

I don't enjoy the handling of these GTL mods, the 50s the saloons and this one all handle so unrealistically for
me that I need some people to race or it just gets tedious, the guys in front were slowly pulling away
and the guys behind were dropping back and couldn't face another 16 laps on my own so quit to do some
video editing of real driving that I hadn't had time to get around to  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eee8JWD_zEA&list=UUgUnZiBraZnbE9CnV5wgW5Q