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Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (26 laps)

Track: Lime Rock Mountain Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg128898#post_limerock_mountain)

Cars allowed: American V8's pack Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_american_v8)
                            Chevrolet Camaro SS
                            Dodge Charger
                            Ford Falcon Sprint 351
                           Ford Mustang TA
                           Mercury Cougar TA
                            Plymouth Roadrunner
                            Pontiac GTO
                            Shelby GT500

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: simracing.org.uk Mondays
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
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(3) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car
If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.
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Special Notes: The most popular car will be dropped from the remainder of the series.

Tony any reason why they is a link to Dodge Charger - goes to site where second hand cars are for sale? ::) ??? Thinking of buying one?  :devil:

What link? where?

Sorry Tony.  Can't see it either on iPad. ::) On my PC it was blue with 2 lines through it.  I thought perhaps there was upgrade to car so clicked onto it and got eBay and number of car sales sites selling Dodge Chargers. :'(

That's most likely some sort of adware on your PC, Bill - worth running HijackThis and Malwarebytes, and possibly trying a variety of browsers.

Thanks Dave, I do have odd adverts at times.

What a GREAT track !!  :thumbup1:

Cheers,
Erling

Just looked again, this time I opened a new link and the new copy of the page is correct.

Brake pedal stripped, cleaned and re-assembled and it still works  :o . Re-configered in GTL and tested last night; seems ok so far.

Taken my graphic details down one notch but had a lock-up ingame at the garage menu screen when I was setting fuel amount for praccy so that doesn't bode well  :-\

Still did a full race against the AI (who were very quick  :P ) and finished the race without any screen lockups.

Will keep fingers crossed for Monday night.

Care to share a time Erling? (don't have to say which car tho  ;) )

I won't then  ;D - they're all close anyway, except for the Charger, which drives like a complete turd. 1:55.0 is a quick time for me.  How about you ?  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

Updated camera file:

The TV view in replays is rather hopeless in the included version - half the time, the view is obscured by trees.

NoGrip has an update for it:

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=5173

It's found under GTR2, but works for GTL as well.  It's MUCH better than the original one.

Cheers,
Erling

Hmm 2 secs of your time :-[

Don't worry Tony, I'm sure Clive is listening too, and whenever you give him a goal, he always seem to exceed it. I have no doubt he'll whoop our collective asses on Monday...  ;)

Cheers,
Erling

LOL  only looked at this event last night.  I thought I knew the track from GPL races, although it is similar there are some differences in the distances between bends and angles of the inclines I'm sure.

Tried a couple of cars for about 5 laps each and the quickest was the Shelby at around 1:54- 1:53, with the others at 1:55.  Even Chargers need a little love and I got that around in 1:55 too. But, it did seriously abuse the front left tyre, so I'm not sure I could maintain that as race pace and survive!!

None of the laps was perfect, so there might be some more time in banzai lap but these cars eat tyres I have come to realise, so it is a case of pacing yourself for the race.........I am away fro the weekend so unlikely to get much more practice until qually on Monday.

Looks like I need to find 2 secs somewhere. More testing then this weekend, DIY permitting  ;)

See ? - Already faster than my fastest kamikaze lap, with next to no practice. I'd say you're well on your way to some whoopin'...  ;)

Would like to know what on Earth you did to get the Charger around in 1:55 - discover a hidden wormhole on track ?  - I need the better part of 2 minutes to get that barge around..  :blink:

Cheers,
Erling

I was hoping that you guys would not notice the large hole through the woodland in the centre of the circuit  ::) ::) ::)

It took me a while to discover how these brutes work, which was probably very obvious from my first couple of races  :-\ where I was a moving hazard rather than any sort of competition for you guys.

I would not claim to fully understand how the setup parameters affect different cars, but at least I now have a clue as to what to do. The biggest factor with these V8's seems to be getting the gearing right and controlling the urge to stand on the throttle and unleash all that torque through the unsuspecting tyres.

Now changed my car choice after getting a low 1:55  8)

1:56.8 in the Shelby GT500 - still have to work over the weekend  :) really like this track  8)

I might just make this one. I'm a bit worried about my recent lock up issues so I'll have to bail out if they start re-occurring this evening. Charger seems like a nice drive  ;)

Downloaded cars and track, launch GTL, select track, buy cars, select car, click race and GTL loads wrong car not even one of these cars any ideas?

What car do you choose and what car do you get?

You have done this haven't you?

To unlock all of the GTL content without doing the cup challenges you can download this http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=788. Add the downloaded file to your main GTL folder. Start GTL and create a new Profile. Exit GTL then start it again. If it's successful your cars will now be unlocked and you will have loads of cash.

Many mod cars rely on donor cars that they are based on. These donor cars are the default ones that need to be unlocked.

Hi Tony i chose Shelby and i think got a Lola?

Did you read me previous post?
Does that help.

Dinners ready but I'll be back

Hi Tony will do, and report back.

Thanks Tony ..... that works, had to delete old profile to get roguk back, now with loads of money and the right cars, will set up buttons and see you on line.

Great  8)

Replay and results now posted.

And we lose the very popular Pontiac GTO  :'(

Enjoyed that  ;D
Had tried GTO, Falcon, and GT500, was a couple of tenths quicker in the GTO, though I liked the Falcon better
but went with the fastest one, had a carp start got mugged by Clive off the line, and had a great chase for a few laps
until I manged to get a tow and get up the inside into T1  then his turn to do the chasing, he had an off so I had
a nice gap which stayed more or less constant for a while, then I went off a bit, then he went off and I was 18 secs
in front, I, and I assume everyone was struggling with rears going off, and the car wanted to jump over the fences
so the last few were heart in mouth stuff. I went wide onto the grass inthe last but 2nd turn, and just missed a tree  :o
but got back on the track to run to the flag  :scared:

Good track and car combo.  :thumbup1:

Grats to Matt and all those who eased these beasts to the end.

Interesting that you went through the same car selection process Matt. I too tried a few options and returned to the GTO as one that just felt that bit quicker. Interesting that 90% of the field went with that choice?, glad I did not decide to save it for a later race as it will not be available now  ;)

I did enjoy that start  ::) ;), and actually wondered what had happened to everyone as I approached T1??!!  Although I seem to have found some pace in GTL, I am very aware of the tyre wear gremlin and I guess only more experience will allow me to judge things better. So, although I might have opted to push a fraction harder, to take advantage of that slim lead in those early laps, I was scared of scrubbing off too much rubber and paying the penalty later in the race.

I doubt whether I could have stretched much of a lead anyway as we seemed pretty even on pace ( barring mistakes) and it was my small mistake in the Esses that allowed you to gain a small lead. I was slowly closing that down, but it was costing me a lot of tyre wear and when I outbraked myself into the hairpin and ran wide I decided that if I wanted to make it to the flag I would have to drive smart and not drive uber-fast. That was around lap 14 I think and I had already used 60% or more of the tyres. It did not take a mathematical genius to work out that the last laps could be interesting.
My only hope of a win was if Matt was worse off than me after our battle in the early laps. TBH I did not see how he could have maintained that pace and NOT used up valuable rubber!!.

The last ten laps were an exercise in gap management back to Erling and extreme concentration on the tyre wear meters. I crossed the line with about 2 pixels of red on the left rear having had to push a little harder than I liked to keep the Coyote at least 4 secs back.

Great racing in the early laps and if I had not made the initial mistake to let Matt off the hook it might have got VERY wild towards the end.

Glad I drove the Pontiac GTL, it was a nice drive.  New PBs all around.  In the first few laps I was trying to drive beyond my capabilities and spent too much time going off.  Settled down and made the new PB, other than that I had a lonely time.  I was amazed just how quickly the first few lappers caught me up from being a spec behind me to right behind me.  Got out of everbodies way  except for Tony he caught me just wrong and I stayed on my line which he did as well bumping me off and taking a visit to the pits, one of those racing incidents with I think no blame either way.  There was no need to have pitted.  After Kurt pitted and caught me so quickly decided to get new brakes and front tyres they were looking well worn.

Unfortunately braked and hit the speed limiter but braked insufficiently to get down to limit so changed front tyres and got back onto track to find a stop and go for my efforts.  Took that and then tried to see if I could get PB below 2 mins without success.  Most enjoyable night's racing - nice one Tony.  :rockon:

I didn't pit Bill. But I felt bad about the hit on you so I took a drive thru.

Great nights racing and the best part was I had no screen lockups so using my old graphics driver looks to have fixed the problems I've been having for the past couple of weeks.

Went of on Lap 1 T1 which was pretty stupid  ::) .

Caught and passed the battling Bill and Kurt. Followed Tibs and Roger who were close together for many laps until Tibs went into the gravel trap at the bottom of that hill straight. I tried to keep with Roger but my tyres let go and I had a series of offs which allowed Tibs back passed me and then Kurt too I think. Still enjoyed the car and looking forward to Virginia.

Hard to tell as you were politely getting out the way when I saw you,  :thumbup1: but I think the main reason your specs became
cars so fast was that the faster cars were sliding the rear round and out of the turns a lot faster than you were.
I remember zooming up after a nice power slide in the race and in practice. it's tricky to get the setup right to be able to
do that just the right amount lap after lap, but it's the only way to get these tanks round with any good pace. IMHO

This has gone straight to my list of favorite tracks, at least for this kind of cars.  Great choice Tony  :)

Spent a lot of time preparing for this race. Although I've found the Shelby too twitchy in previous races, it handled beautifully here, and early testing suggested I could pretty much match my pace in the GTO, so sorely tempted by it. Later, when testing for tyre wear etc, I could not match my earlier pace in it. Had done some 1:54 laps before, but no matter what I did, I couldn't get under 1:55. Time to tweak the setup then, although that is by no means my forte.  Did find the right buttons to press, so finally the laptimes dropped, allowing me to set 1:54s regularly, and eventually beat my best GTO lap of 1:54.2, with a 1:54.0.  Shelby for the race then  :)

Did feel a bit like an outsider in the race though, when seeing every one else's car choice  ;)  Managed my first sub 1:54s in pre race praccy and qualy, which put me 4th on the grid. Start didn't feel particularly good, but still got me past Tibernius and into 3rd.  Was delighted to see Clive take the lead, since Matt and I were tied for points going into this race.

The two front runners quickly pulled away.  Had Roger and Tibs in tow for the early laps. Had a small gap of 3-4 secs to them after a few laps, but this started dwindling, as Roger was on a mission. Hunkered down and got some fast laps in (well, fast for me), to restore the situation.  Entered a phase where gaps in front and behind were slowly growing, so shaping up to be a lonely race from then on.

However, about halfways through, as I was about to lap Bill, I suddenly spotted Clive not far ahead. Cursed under my breath, as that obviously meant Matt had gotten away.  After a few laps it became clear, that instead of doing his job of getting after Matt and win the bloody race, Mr. Evil was now content with teasing me with one of his - in Coyote circles now infamous - 5-sec gaps to the car behind.  Really quite annoying to have him cruising up front, no doubt listening to Beach Boys on the radio and munching on snacks, while 5 secs behind, I'm driving like I bloody stole it, just to keep up...  ;D

Positions lasted to the end and I can't complain about 3rd, although Matt is now clearly in the lead  :)

In retrospect, I should probably have worked with the GTO instead. Could probably have gotten a little faster with more practice, but doubt I could have matched Matt & Clive's blistering pace - the setup tweaks I did on the Shelby weren't relevant on the GTO, so that wouldn't have helped.

Cheers,
Erling

Was one second faster in the GTO than in the GT500 in my private sessions so I decided to give the GTO a go.
Handling has improved considerably since the car was released by the MuscleCarLeague for the first time.

However I was missing another second to compete with Roger, Tibernius and Tony so I had a mostly lonesome
race with some offs and heavily declining front tyres. So I decided to pit, got a stop&go for pit lane speed limit
and during the last two laps I watched Matt sliding around the circuit.

Nice track / car combo.

Thanks for organising. Highly appreciated.

I had to bail out of this last night because of repeated lockups and didn't want to risk locking up on the start grid as in PnG last week. No idea what's causing this but I'm getting them in GTL and PnG  ???

I haven't updated drivers for my GTX770 for a couple of months so I don't think it can be that. The only thing I have changed is one of my nvidia inspector settings from high quality to quality which I've now put back to high quality and will test on the next event, but I can't imagine that would be causing it tbh.

The car just stops on track for a few seconds usually around the sf straight and then resumes in the same place but having lost a few seconds laptime. It isn't our server because I've experienced the same issue in another GTL race last week and everything has been fine in Assetto Corsa (so far)  ??? ???

Hope that change sorts things for you mate. Does it only happen online? Have you tested with a full grid offline?

Grats to Matt on win
Grats to Podium

Great track choice Tony and loved the Pontiac, tried to but could not keep up with Erling but had some good racing with Tibs who drove like a gent.
Thanks again Tony for getting my GTL working.
 Have ati 4800 graphics card at least 4 years old would a radeon 6850 be a good replacement faster etc as they are cheap on ebay?
 system win7/amd quad core 3000/4gbyte mem.

I think a newer card is always a good idea particularly if it has more onboard graphics ram than your current card. If you believe the hype then each new range has/does more and faster. Check if the replacement card requires the same power inputs as your current card e.g. through the slot on the mobo or as additional inputs from your PSU, and if the latter how many.

Hi Tony 6850 card same power required as 4800 so psu ok.

Roger, have you had chance to see how your system performs at Singapore as it looks as if your AMD processor is slower than mine and a slower graphics card of a different "Blend".  ;D

Online and offline Tony, but a new development now. It's cured  :jumpjoy:


I've been running GTL and PnG with a frames limiter in nvidia inspector set at 120fps for ages now which keeps my card from working too hard and all of a sudden it's causing lockups  ???  I've tried lots of variations now and no other settings seem to cause this so I'm hopeful that's it. How odd!

Now I must get on with the decorating  ::)

Great news GT.  An alternative to the limiter could be to run GTL with vsync on.  I do that, which limits my framerate to 60 (my refresh rate), which is for all intents and purposes 'fast enough'. 

Cheers,
Erling

Hi Bill tried Singapore and with my settings had poor fps, 10 cars 27fps at start then max 59fps unplayable, but okay with video settings altered to medium for cars got 66fps at start then max 80fps, will leave on this setting for now and look to change graphics card.

Thanks for testing Roger. Be good if all drivers have a try and adjust their setting accordingly. Please don't wait until race night to discover that you cannot race due to choppy video.

As Erling said will also try with Vsync on.

How are you guys getting your FPS? Do you use Fraps?

Ctrl-f in GTL ;-)

Cheers
Erling

Yes, f+ CRT! ;D

REALLY  :o

I had no idea. Well you live and learn.  :smartass:

Finger trouble in the early morning.  Ctrl! ::) :oops:

There's a joke in there somewhere  ;) :oops: