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RACE START: Lights on left, go on GREEN

Practice: 19:20 (GMT) (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 12 Laps (~ 55mins)
Cars allowed: Pantera Modena, Ford GT40 (ANY... yes any, and all), Porche 906 (ANY), Porsche RSR3.0, Corvette C3 ZL1 Hard Top
Track:60 Le Mans (Get the Amazon S3 file) Download and install this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_lemans60)
Time of Day Setting: 13:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption:  2x
Pit-stops: At least one stop required

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Being as it was sports cars that were being asked for, I have made this Sports Car finale at Le Mans
I expect everyone will use a GT40 but I have allowed the other options for anyone who might want
something "different".

Cooooool  :thumbup1:

only problem will be finding practise time this time of year!  :o

I have added the Nutter Vette, it is at least as fast down the straight as anything else, but is a pig in the curves/braking/power
I managed 4:05 with a messy lap and I can get down to under 4 with a good lap in the Mk2 or Gulf
It has the glide characteristics of a fridge over the jump at the end of Mulsanne Straight
If someone decide to take it, make sure you have practiced how to limit the flight to less than a minute  :o
You are warned!!

It may require a two stop, I will adjust the laps after I have done fuel testing with all the cars.

Had a quick blast in the open top vette last night and it blew up on the outlap before I even got as far as the hump  :D The GT40s get airborne in a very unusual way, even moreso than I remember in 2.1.

I think I'll be taking the RSR at this rate unless one of the 906s is more fun.

The Vette I was using with highest gearing touches 209 and the shift light flickers slightly
I saw no reduction in health after 3 laps. This is the C3 ZL1 Hard Top, there is no open version of it.
I think you were using a lower powered Vette?

Ah yes Matt, it was the open top Vette GS. The race announcement hadn't been made when I tested.

A vintage 'Vette doing 209 mph? 

Are we doing simracing or arcade racing here  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Stig

I don`t like VirtuaLM version because of that ridiculous jump ... just watched onboard porsche 936 (i know, i know, downforce car ... ) and this porsche spends almost two seconds on top of that hill which is actually flat, than goes downhill - nothing even remotely like ramp jump ...

...but i think i`ll be there.

Also noticed that p&g v3.1 cars are faster - 3:58 with gulf loaded with fuel like a tanker.

Can anything be done about the gloomy half light in the practice session on the server.

It's of no use what so ever when trying to learn the track/car combination and so doesn't encourage people to go on line.

try the Porsche to learn the track - that's what I am in the process of doing. Maybe we'll get together a group of Porsche drivers for the race as well?

I must say that this track has the most beautiful graphics of all I have ever driven. In particular the catch fencing is un objet d'art - I have studied it closely ;)

This was the track that was requested, if it's causing big problems we can change it. I will be stuck in a hotel next week
but I will admin it to whatever track version is best. I will try another version today if I can, and swap if appropriate.

Nowt wrong with the track.  Just the time of day.

I have provisionally changed the track to 60's Le Mans due to the way the faster cars are airborne at the hump before Mulsanne
Even the GT40s are too risky. I have set the laps to 13 as XD will not give me any fuel figures for this track.

CLive likes the old one, I don't like VLM tracks much anyway, too much about eye candy and not enough about driveability for me
(exception being Rouen which is superb)

If enough people really want the crash fest VLM 77 version I will (reluctantly) change it back.

Philrob's 60's version is sweet enough but lacks Armco barriers for a lot of the lap so premature visits to Nirvana invite all who dare leave the tarmac.

His 70's version has everything this one has plus Armco so IMO is the better option.

Any version with those two chicanes along the Mulsanne Straight is better than the "Roman Road" version. I am almost asleep when I finally get to the end of the Mulsanne Straight in the 70s version of the track.

I can't download tracks from No grip, do we have the Philrob 70 version somewhere?

If you have the version with the poxy chicanes in it there is no option but to get in the Gulf.

Personally I would rather have the 60s version as used in GPL with no chicanes at all!  The era that the GT40 came from.   :thumbup2:

I find that I nod off more on the approach to Indianapolis rather than on the Mulsanne.

Or leave it as it is and pray 14 times to land safely (unless you are in a Porsche or Modena) ...

Besides that jump, it is the best version that i`m aware of...don't take too serious my complaining.

Errr never mind, i`m OK with 60`s version ...

Tony

Can you put the philrob 70's version on the server, I can't  :helpsmilie:
I will give it a whirl but I don't have it

I guess it doesn't matter, because I probably will not be taking part in this race anyway. I find the really long tracks rather boring, but I hope that you all have a great time!

Love the smoky camp fires just after Arnage.  Do you think I could cadge a bacon buttie next time I out brake myself there?

Probably get a dobbin burger tho

Can't make this race due to work.

I won't be crying in my sleep over it though  ................ but I might fall asleep faster, if I picture myself going down the Mulsane for the 13th time  ;D


Stig

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What are you doing in Clive's car?

I personal prefer the VLM version and don't have any problems going airborne because I slow down before the jump. Simples.

This is awkward, whichever version I choose there are detractors.
The VLM versions have an unrealistic jump before Mulsanne, and it is unrealistic, I have driven over that bump
and you hardly know it's there. granted in a hire car... and I don;t like the chicanes at the start or on the straight
boring for some they may be, but in a race the different speeds on the straight usually makes for some drafting  ;D

The 60's version has no armco so if you go off at some places you go off into a void

the 70's philrob version has barriers and is nice, but the start sequence is screwed, there are no lights and
the timer doesn't start until 2 secs after the man drops the flag, which on here is usually a recipe for disaster

I think it's safest to stick with the 60s we currently have which has red to green that is in sync. Go on Green is ok.
Just try not to fall off becuse if you go far you will go forever.  :o

Done!  Shake on it.

You can see where you are going in the practice session too!

Well I tried all versions and for driving these cars I reckon this 60s version is the right option  8)

Dunlop Curve is actually a corner now instead of just an acceleration zone and the drafting down Mulsanne will be a lot of fun. Can't wait  :)

And I'm feeling chuffed because I have actually managed a lap with the aero package still intact!

 I am away now for the week so can not do testing, therefore I have made it 12 Laps
due the the different fuel consumption, and, I don't want it to be much over 40 mins  :chef:

There is still a minimum of 1 pit stop, whether the car needs it or not.

When I use the "Race Weekend" with the AI off-line, I have noticed that the grid gets scrambled after qualification.

Matt has suggested that we run a test on-line with real people logged on to see if the same thing happens.

If as many people as possible could gather on the server tonight at, say, 7:00pm GMT, then we could test this out.  We just need to get enough people to set a time, and remember their grid slot; we can then vote it through to the race an see if we still have the same order.

Shouldn't take long.

Ta

Can't promise, but I will try to be there.

Any laptimes yet? I had a go in the GT40 Mk2 & after several abortive attempts working out where I had to brake to be able to make the corners ( ::)), I managed a 3.33.

Yes I'll try to get there too. I don't think grid positions are that important here as once we all start drafting on lap 1 they'll soon change.

But just to remind...

7PM GMT TONIGHT PRACTICE GRID

A few of us just had a pracci, quali race session and all seemed to be ok.

Noticed the server is still set to 13 laps instead of 12 though.

this track seems to have a lot of bugs.
Going on the grass, sometimes is impossible to come back on track.

Now fixed

Noticed that too. Best to rejoin track the same way you went off and don't be tempted to look for the shorter route as there are glass walls in the way.

Everyone is going to have to have their "sensible head" on when it comes to the end of the Mulsanne on lap one.

The Mk2 has to start braking just after the jump that isn't a jump any more.

When I think GT40 and a 60's Le Mans track it should be petrol head nirvana but it's blinking hard work in p&g. Has the car got a rudder instead of steering arms? Doesn't help that you can't adjust front camber or toe. Given it more rake and rear arb but still hard work.
Car is also really slow out of the slow corners due to the long gearing, could do with some clutch dipping.
Best I've managed in a mk2 is a 3:36 so far...and the ford works department have written off at least 6 cars  :P

Where's a 917 when you need it?  8)

Can't believe that they built the Mk2 with so little adjustment in the geometry. Surely every car at least has adjustable toe even if it is only to take out manufacturing tolerances.  ???

I want to know why they didn't fit it with brakes!!!!

It's a Ford, probably an optional extra!

In the CHristmas special, (that I won in a Mk2) the Gulf was quickest, though the MK2 was
fastest on the mulsanne straight. And yes there are holes to fall into if you come off at some
places, so, don't come off there. The options were - holes - broken start sequence, - crazy jump
we ( I ) opted for holes as the best compromise.

The track looks great especially the old iconic pit row  8) but it is pretty narrow for 80% of the lap so not sure how much fun 'racing' there will be in cars that steer and brake like ocean liners  :-\
It is fun drafting down the mulsanne though but think the modern Porsche curves are far better than this old sector 3..with a spectators 911 parked on an outside apex  :o

Are the 906 Langheckes present in png3? Wonder if they are competitive if so?
Am sure the developers know their stuff but I find it hard to believe the Gt40 was this hard to drive and so limited in setup options. They'd never have such a long 1st gear for a start!

Bet they did.   :P  The GTLWorkshop couldn't possibly have made that up.

It's built for the Mulsanne Straight and not for mincing about through the Porsche Curves.

And Matt's glorious win was on the '72 track.

I think that the abandoned 911 might be supposed to be that of Steve McQueen from the film.  And that was '72 as well.

Oh!  And you can't have a 917 as it never ran on this version of the track and neither did the Pantera for that matter, as far as I know.  They had put the Ford Chicane in by the time that the 917 was sorted. 

Correct https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12087#event3821

If your in first gear in the Porsche curves your doing something very wrong  :P
Surely they would still use a short 1st gear for the few slow corners then space 2nd to 4th to suit the rest of the track. Be a bast getting this off the line or out of the pits!

Don't worry about the abandoned 911, you can drive straight through it!  :o

Now now Geoffers we don't condone that type of thing here!  :euro: only you aliens always find out these things I find  ::) I made every effort to avoid it on my laps  :angel:

Maybe I'm not driving it right but I was also looking forward to sliding the GT a bit through corners like tetre rouge and arnage but it's just sluggish  :( I've got an old footage GT40 DVD and it's being chucked about in fine style with a bit of decent power slide in tighter turns to keep momentum up.
Would reducing lock help?

 :( I'm afraid I am going to go for one of the slower cars tomorrow night, it's the only way I can complete a full lap without hitting concrete straw bails or being dropped into the jaws of hell at Arnage.  Will be interesting to see how many survive the first lap as the slightest mistake is severely punished here. :winkiss:

this 60's layout would make for a good future 60's GT class race, using the Fezzas, vettes and E-types etc.  8)

But do think we would have been better off using the VLM 70 for these GT40's.  :-\  oh well, will hopefully be a challenge without too much carnage or retirements !  :-X

Oh I didn't drive through it on purpose, like you I was making every effort to avoid it, but on (one of) the laps I got it wrong I couldn't avoid it & was bracing myself for the crash & heypresto a ghost 911! Actually on the (well, my) correct line through the corner you should comfortably miss it.

Don't know about reducing the lock, I always use max lock & 100% steering sensitivity, otherwise I find all the cars a bit unresponsive. But that is just personal preference. I did find that lowering the tyre pressures helped, particularly the fronts which seemed far too high on default. Apart from that I guess its just a matter of playing with the brake bias & diff settings as little else is adjustable.
I'm sure the real aliens (Italians & John!) will get under 3.30 with it but I still can't better 3.33.

Reminder: We are not using either of the VLM versions because the GT40s and even more so
the Vette take off in an uncontrollable way over the hump before Mulsanne corner
True you can slow down, but in the heat of battle peple will likely push the limit and there
would likely to be an almightly crash fest on the 1st or 2nd lap.
This 60 version has "features"
1: It's quite narrow, in my quick test I could stay on one half of the road easy enough
so I don't see it as an issue.
2: There are no barriers/fences to stop you leaving the circuit at some places, anyone who
goes down a hole in the space time continuum probably made an error so it's their fault
rather than being an inocent bystander in someone elses error at Mulsanne.
3: This is what happens when anarchy rules, and you all vote for a track that doesn't go through
the normal test methods  ;D

Cool and perfect for this race - footage: 8)

GT40 at Le Mans '69 onboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmA01dUhdPY

take note of his commentary:-  "any car ahead within 200m that makes a change of direction you are most likely going to hit! as you cannot stop in time" - so no unnecessary moving around guys!

Also liked " we have to stop from 200+mph down to 30mph within 300m at the end of the Mulsanne"   :o  Try doing that in the race and stopping in time!  :laugh:

and theres this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMzgeEWqXPQ

whets the appetite  :)

Cracking films...makes me want to install PnG!

And so you should Colin.

Not heard of TRB since you took the wooden spoon in that karting event in Milton Keynes!   ;D

Hi Clive, Rik B has that prize down in Mid Wales still!

I'm downloading the files as I type :) and as for TBR, well I'm not sure whether I'll carry on with it, just can't figure out how to quit in the team section here!

Gotta say that if you enjoy these cars then you really ought to fire up GT Legends and see what Tony has lined up for us next season  8) You can even transfer your PnG ffb settings to make GTL feel better than ever and if you don't already own a copy of GTL, it's now available cheaply on Steam.

Details of the season are here......

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=414&theme=5

Looks pretty nifty GT and Tony  8) might be worth me reinstalling it all just to race those babies  :)

DO NOT RE-INSTALL FROM DISK ON TO EITHER WINDOWS VISTA, 7 OR 8. IT WILL NOT WORK AND WILL PROBABLY STUFF YOUR OS.

Use the digital download from Steam £4.99. I believe you could enter your original online code and Steam will give you a free download but you may have to Google for more info. It also may have been a temporary offer which has now expired  :(

Yes I should have mentioned this. I did actually run GTL from my disk on Vista with no problems, but it was quite a complicated procedure to do this iirc and not recommended.

Just checked and you can still use your original online key code to install in steam. Just click in steam on the bottom left 'add a game', than click 'activate a product on steam'. There you type in your product key without the dashes '-'

I tried out the Gulf mk1 Gt40 briefly and it's such a sweeter ride compared to the mk2. It's a joy to drive, shame it loses out too much on the Mulsanne to be competitive with the mk2's. Don't know why the latter car feels so unwieldy in comparison to the earlier car though  ???
But if anyone wants the Gt40/LM experience then the Gulf car is the one to go for and you have more chance of making it to the finish than all the wrecked mk2's ! :o

Re: GTL I had a look back over a couple of races and it seemed a very low turnout, like 6 drivers, so nothing like the fuller grids we are enjoying here. Not enough to entice really despite you guys obvious enthusiasm for it and some good mods available.

Were your times that much slower with the Gulf MJ? I know this version has less tight corners
but the Gulf gets round the corners way better, and has some brakes, in the VLM70 version
the GUlf was a couple of seconds faster even though it was 5-10 mph slower on the straight
The MK2 is not fun to drive anywhere there are turns, and the gearing is nuts compared
to the Mk1 and the Gulf.

About 4 secs slower than my mk2 times. But I only did 3 laps in it and one of them was the outlap ! 3.40 but I've also only done 7 laps in the mk2 (3.36) so I hope I could find a bit more time in both.

Looks like this race is linked to the 70-ies track config.
Perhaps better link it to 'Sarthe (1968-71)' or even earlier because otherwise the track records are obliterated.

Good spot Alex, I've changed it.

Hey no worries Mark. When we get 20+ grids we'll be sure to let you know.

Chortle.... and how do we get bigger grids? err the more people join the more people "will" join
I do the GTL events whenever I can, and some of them are serious fun
I didn't like the Escort/Mini series as I could not drive either car, but the Fifties series was huge grin stuff
(even though I couldn't drive those either ...) Come and have a play, the water's lovely  8)

 ::)  It wasn't meant as a 'diss', more a case of me thinking its a lot of installing/configuring/updating to do to run an old game for a small turnout. Already painful enough in the GTR2 modern GT racing where sometimes only 5 or 6 turn up to race  :'(
Though I wish P&G also had some of the great mods that are available for GTL, at least we are getting 20+ drivers weekly to race against which is great fun and gives most drivers someone to fight all the way through the field.  :)

No "diss" taken Mark. Honest  :angel:

Tail end Charlie reporting in... I'll be there tonight for my first ever race with a pit stop. Gulf GT40 for me as it is a nice drive, probably DQ about halfway through when I suddenly find out I've forgotten what to do for a pit stop.

Anon

I'm still finding new ways to crash and get stuck on this circuit!  >:(

I'll let you know when I think that I have discovered all of them!

 :laugh   No need, already found them all.

Don't forget to turn off the ignition when you stop. We've all done it at some point..

..............and don't forget to turn it on again  :oops:

And most importantly, don't forget to stop  :laugh:

You'll be doing around 180mph on the approach to your pitstop and you'll need to slow down early (off the racing line of course  ;)) or you'll be sailing past your pitcrew before you know it  :o

Well if last week was a measure of everything all action gun to flag racing should be like & why I love racing here... this week was sadly not.

 :sleep1:

Sadly fell asleep at the wheel & wrote the car off.

Usual P&G disco for me, but I was really enjoying that  :(

Apologies to John. I completely missed you in my mirrors ??? when I let Goldtop go by. Unforgivable!
What a nightmare this race was.Endless pitstop and didn't make to the end either. Bah.

Dan

Best race of the season.  Just a shame that I finished it perched on a pile of sand.

Just to make matters worse, I think that Dan has smeared our No.1 driver down the wall and given the championship to the Kerbies.   LOL

Grrr. I know you didn't mean it Dan. Don't know what's more annoying - our team putting ourselves out of the championship, or the Kerbies' undoubted smugness because of it!

Didn't help getting hit up the rear on the first lap, then clawing my way back with a bent car to catch GT only to have it all taken away just when it was about to get exciting. GT must have been chuckling in that cockpit...

 :) :)  Unusual for me made the whole race with pit stops and managed to finish. Only spin on lap one to avoid the GT40's that littered the Porsche curves. Bob.

Unlucky guys, there were lots of unfortunate and unnecessary DNF's tonight. The event really needed more prep time than 1 weeks notice with these cars on a tough track. Next time (and there should definitely be a next time), we should have more lead-in time and maybe a practise race to shake out all the areas where its likely to go wrong....like the chaos in sector 1 at race start !!  :o Followed by a fair few of us not being able to stop at end of Mulsanne with full tanks as we no doubt didn't practise it (I didn't either) and all taking to the escape road and/or spinning.  ::)

I was really enjoying myself in the race actually. Managed to miss the lap1 chaos mostly and then had a 6 race ding dong with SeniorDans Mk2. Annoyingly on lap 7 at Tetre rouge when following him into the tight right corner I ran a little too wide and the car did a ridiculous flip onto its roof off a concrete 'hay-bail'  ::)  Such a shame as was hoping to battle to the end.
As it was I spectated the rest of the race and thoroughly enjoyed watching GT in his Gulf being pursued by Johns Mk2, the cars& track looked fab on the TV camera screen  8)  
In the end there were a lonely 5 or 6 finishers out of a decent starting field. Shame really.
The track is cool but its also frustrating with the voids and flip-u-up scenery items. We should use it again though

Big congrats to GT on the win, Donni and Walter on the podium and well done to the few guys that made it to the finish line  :thumbup1:

ps such a big event should carry double points!...F1 style  ;D

Unofficial LapChart (http://www.justanotherpage.nl/Srou/PnG/GTR2_60_lemans_2013_12_12_21_4/)

Rookie Night.
Bumped into MJ at the first start spinning into the pit and was DQ. Thanks for the restart btw.
Second start went well but ran into a sliding Eifel (the only other Heck in the field) and couldn't stop. Sry Eifel, but I was full on the brakes when I hit you  :(
Then stupid mistake at the fast corner again spinning...
Fortunately managed to find the pit but forgot to tell the crew NOT to mend the car so I spent nearly 2 minutes in the pits..  but finished the race  ;D

Congrats to Goldtop for the win and championship.

 :-[ I'm sorry that I caused an accident on the first lap in Tertre Rouge (Just before the Mulsanne straight). I started P2, and I had a great start. I went wide in that corner, and got stuck in the sand. Some unlucky soul crossed paths with my car as I was on the shoulder of the road. I'll submit an accident report to the moderator after I see the replay. My car was severely bent, and the engine sounded rough afterwards. Geoffers had no trouble catching me, and he overtook me going into Indianapolis. I tried to let him past, but I may have caused him to miss his braking point. I am sorry if I was to blame for that. Then came the pit stops (plural). I boxed twice because I did not take any fuel or change any tires on the first one.  ??? No one was more surprised than me that I made it to the checkered flag. The good thing was that the WSL Racing Team scored a shedload of points. Condolences to those that were not able to finish the race. There is a chance that I will receive a penalty. So the results are not final yet.

Final thoughts, I really enjoy these cars and this track. However, there were too many DNF's. Anyhow, I hope that this track (or some version of it) remains on the calendar in the future.
Thanks, Good race everyone, Walt  :)

EDIT: I am sorry for the incident John.
    

First my apologies if i cause problem for someone after Dunlop in first lap, because I wasn`t able to see.
My monitor simply turned off and i`m still not sure is the problem in monitor or graphic card ... now it works just to log in windows even in safe mode so no racing untill i solve this.

Firstly, thanks for all the pit stop advice gents  ;D but sadly I didn't make it to my first on-line pit stop  :( I did a little off-line practice shortly before joining the server and as long as I had no damage to fix I thought I'd be ok. I'll certainly be spending some practice time to get a good routine burned into my ageing and dwindling memory cells for future events  :laugh:

I also learned in my off-line practice that visiting the pit lane off the start wasn't a good idea and that full tanks require some pulling up at the end of the Mulsanne so in the practice session I just worked on getting a feel for the Gulf with it's tanks brimmed. Quali session went ok and for the first, aborted start, I got away well and made some progress through the field until all the DQ's started happening and it all came to a halt.

Re-start and random grid put me in 4th. Again, got a decent start helped out by Clive moving off relatively slowly which kept those on the RH side of the grid at bay and leaving me and fellow team mate Walt to head off at the front of the pack. I took Walt at the first left hander and I was in the lead heading on to the Mulsanne. Saw a bit of a cafuffle in my mirrors and was enjoying a fair lead but knew it wouldn't be long before the faster GT40's would be swallowing me up. As it happened only Guiseppe Reali came past so now I was just concentrating on getting the car slowed down before the Mulsanne corner. Thought I'd done a good job there as I watched Guiseppe slide off and then I started to slide and the next thing I know I'm in the middle of a Concrete Hay Bale/GT40 sandwich with more piling in by the second. Seems Goldtop came barrelling in on the inside and that was that. I bugged out at that point as it was getting late for me (usually need to finishing racing at 10pm) and I wasn't looking forward to struggling around with a bent GT40, possibly causing any further incidents. Spoken to Goldtop about the incident and, as the Fun Lovin Criminals would say, everything is cool and everything is schmoove.

Grats to Goldtop on the championship and to the Crawlers. Huge grats to Walt and Bob for bringing in a nice points haul for Team WSL... I'll contribute at some point  ;D

Well done, Walter and Bob. A nice collection of points for the team there 8)

LOL  You can't moan about being bored and not part of the race when you pick a car that is off the pace in the first place.   :P

We should have more of these races, rather than boring sessions on sanitised (safe) modern tracks with gutless cars on sticky boots!  ;D

Congratulations to Tudor and the Crawlers on their championship success. 

I shall not be able to do any practice on Brands until Tuesday so I shall be in the same boat as all those people who arrived at Le Mans and spent the first forty minutes trying to find their way out of the escape roads!

No worries Walt - Hardly your fault that you hit an invisible object! I'd already been clattered into by then anyway, so it didn't make the car any worse :D

The Monitor is unlikely to stop Windows working. I'd be suspecting the Graphics card.

Windows works fine only monitor goes to stand by. When that happened, i could still hear that game didn't stop.
Few month ago i had problem with freezing graphics for a few seconds and latest graphics card driver solve that but now ... f*** nvidia, going back to ati just to find my old card!

Results and Replay POsted

GOLDTOP Takes the Drivers Cup  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Kerbies take the Team Cup after a close run thing to the wire, only decided by their own Kamikaze antics :fencing:

Question: I wasn't there, but why did we do a restart? we don't normally do restarts unless there is
a server connection issue, we don't do restarts because people drive foolishly.

Anyone studying my race record this season may already have guessed: My sponsors (the traditional immensely rich and bored father-in-law)and I had to submit a considerable amount of dough to have me race with the famous Soggy Bottoms.
And fully in line with what the usual not too talented Dutch backmarker in any big racingseries does, I managed to completely ruin the team's changes of eternal fame.
As it is I lost  a few friends and made some new, Soggy Bottoms and Kerbies!
We will see if money can buy you anything. If not I'll be on the transfer list and will be expecting your calls.
In the meantime, my deepest apologies to John and my other  teamies and sincere promises to do better in the future.
(what else can you say?)
And to the Kerbies: You don't consider this really a win and trophy, do you chaps ;D?

See you all at Solitude.

Dan

@ Matt  At the start four drivers received a DQ for no apparent reason. I called Red Flag and we restarted with random grid.

Fair enough, Thanks Tony

All started well for me as I managed to get a good start and avoid all the carnage at Tertre Rouge. All went wrong at Mulsanne corner when I tried a hugely optimistic outbraking move on Johnnyx (apologies sent and incident report submitted)  :-[ Sorry also for any other drivers who might have been affected.

The rest of the race was very intense, first with Clive and then with John catching and passing me at one point. My Gulf was 10mph slower down Mulsanne than the MKII but was able to draft at the same speed and keep up. The Gulf was quicker through the curves and out of the slow corners too, so I reckon we would have had a very close race if it weren't for John's unfortunate incident.

A bit of a hollow victory then (subject to mods) and well done to those who finished.

Sure do  :angel:, I think it evened out our similar mishap at Suzuka!  ;D

Congrats to GT on the championship & also single-handedly winning the teams title for the Kerbies (thats 2 Soggies trophies we've plundered!). Sorry I wasn't more help GT, I was really annoyed with myself for getting the braking right for Mulsanne on the first lap & then being distracted by the antics in the sandbank & spinning the car coming out of the corner. Would have been well clear in 2nd place without that mistake. As it was the engine died & by the time I restarted it & sorted which way the steering was pointing all those who had overshot the corner were coming at me from all directions. Figured it was best just to sit tight & let everyone drive around me.

Did a couple more laps OK, then caught Walter at the kink before Indianapolis. Eased off as I thought Walter would take the racing line but he kept to the left so accelerated past him only to not brake hard enough for the corner, clouted the barrier & ended up over the sandbank on the right, a which point I quit in disgust at my stupid mistakes. Not your fault Walter, just my ineptitude!  ::)

Ah yes, I seem to remember Clive finding that particularly entertaining at the time  ;)

Couldn't help thinking of that famous crash in the film "Le Mans" where the Ferrari (iirc) went over the very same sand bank as Clive. Think I'll dig out the DVD this evening to relive the moment  :laugh: :angel:

Ah, I wondered how you were able to outbrake me and re-take the lead - Didn't realise you were in a Gulf at the time! Pity about what happened, I could see it going to the line otherwise :fencing:

Grats on the championship :thumbup1:

As it turned out, the gulf mk1 was clearly competitive with the powerful but unwieldy mk2. I binned the mk2 half way through praccy as thought it's just not fun trying to get it around lap after lap on this tight track, so jumped in the fab Gulf mk1.
That was backed up by Animal Ed doing an amazing 3:32 in it  :o

Just a real shame we lost so much of the grid so early on, this definitely requires another race here  8)

Big congrats to GT on the drivers championship and Kerb Crawlers on the team win  :thumbup2:

I am sorry for ruining your race Alessandro! Just saw replay and, to be honest, i didn`t hit the brakes immediately when my monitor shut down despite that i knew that left turn is coming and i`m not alone on track.

I was so frustrated because i had chance to win ...

@ Mark J ... 3:32 was kind of sandbagging because i could go 3:31 lap after lap easilly but didn`t want to start in front and be sitting duck on Mulsanne in first lap ...

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My apologies to Seniordan on the Tertre Rouge.......i've missed the braking zone..... :(

Anyway.....the game crashed on the restart....so i had to return in 14° position from the pole position...... :-\

Some fast laps alone in the circuit and then i've finished second thanks to the others withdraws.....