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Season 26 Privateers Trophy, Race 1 Kyalami

Welcome to the 26th Season of UKGPL and this Privateers trophy.

We start in South Africa and Kyalami. Classic track, long time home of formula 1 in the Southern hemisphere.

The original, sweeping circuit was in use from 1961 until political sanctions eliminated the Grand Prix after the 1985 race. A very quick circuit, it yielded some memorable races. Gilles Villeneuve outfoxed team mate and home driver Jody Scheckter in a wet/dry race in 1979, and Alain Prost raced from the back to win in 1982. By the time the circuit held its last Grand Prix in its original incarnation cars were lapping the track in 1m 02s – 20 seconds faster than in 1967, a lap time in the 1m 02s might not quite be obtainable.

We will run Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

*** NOTE***
As we are at Kyalami, you must ensure that you have the Pit Wall IN PLACE.. Those without the pit wall will risk disqualification. Advantage can be gained without it and in particular, drivers should ensure that they know where the pit entry is WITH THE PIT WALL IN PLACE

The standard Papyrus track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it. The absence of a pit wall will not stop you from joining the race but anybody seen by the moderators miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will risk disqualification.

Follow these instructions to restore the wall if you have a mod that has removed it:
METHOD 1:
To place a wall between the pits and the track, rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
METHOD 2:
To reinstall the original Papyrus Armco, rename or remove the Armco_s.mip file from your kyalami folder.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 12-01-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time
Track = Kyalami (Papy)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = INT
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 34)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Replays Available here (http://ukgpl3.dyndns.org/inc_replaysS26_js.aspx)

Driver lists and token rules can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=426&theme=6)

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this event the red zone will be from the start to the exit of the Leeukop bend. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Privateers (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=426&theme=6) standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

I think that I have Jack Seller's track update at http://www.f1legends.ch/update/update.php (http://www.f1legends.ch/update/update.php).

It has the pit wall so hopefully I am ready. 

Another newbie question, if the grid is not full, do the reserve drivers still have to leave for 5mins after the first 30mins of practice?

Won't be a problem - there are currently only 13 drivers signed up for this series.

Welcome to GPL!

No not this season (unless we get a last minute rush of registrations).  We don't have enough Full Time and Reserve drivers to make up a full grid so there is no need for reserve drivers to leave the grid.  The only time this is necessary is if there are more than 19 Full and Reserve drivers registered.  On the assumption that Reserve drivers will not be challenging for the championship, we want to avoid the situation where a Full Time driver who is challenging for the championship can't get on the server.

For the first round you can pick any car you want as you will have 10 tokens for the season start and 10 tokens for the race start.  But bear in mind if you take the Lotus you will be left with zero tokens and hence only have a maximum of 10 tokens for the next race (i.e. the start money).  You can have any car you want provided you have the tokens to pay for it.

By the way, welcome to UKGPL!!

I thought I make the step up to the real cars, after driving mods I forgot how damn hard these thing are to drive. should be fun.

Thanks for all the replies and the welcome gents. One last one regarding the red zone, is this is a no overtaking area?

no. its any incident in the red zone will be modded on, regardless if someone put in a report or not. only reported incidents get modded for the rest of the race.
also ignore yellow flags in respect of overtaking.

Welcome aboard :)

ABOUT THE FLAGS, please see the UKGPL sporting regulations page

Yellow and green flags

Drivers have a duty to drive safely and well within their limits when they have passed a yellow flag. Stay on the racing line unless it is blocked. Drivers may not overtake any car they are racing with, until they are sure they have passed a green flag or they are sure they have passed the incident and the green flag has been taken in. (Sometimes a yellow flag is shown when a car loses and then quickly regains control, so the green flag may be gone by the time the driver passes the next marshall).

Shaping up to be a nice race when Phil warped in front of me and I overbraked. That put me just about last and racing with Pierre and Martin.

Got Pierre after some laps (it was tough to get by but tow helps!) then Martin went off and emerged out of the dust right in front of me... sorry Mr Hunt. After a reset, hunted down Pierre again after letting a million by and being passed bravely by the new boy - nice one Mr. Cheeseman - and just as it was getting tasty, blew my engine.

Fun race though and nice to see a full grid.

Going to be a tough season to score points though...

Well, that was an experience of sorts! Sort of enjoyed it, I do like the intense concentration required for that number of laps. I hope I didn't get in anybody's way. There was a BRM behind me (myself driving a BRM) and I couldn't work out whether it was lapping me or racing me so I'm sorry to the driver if I held you up.

I was steadily braking into Crowthorne at the start having started from a flukey 7th place on the grid but then before I knew it, I was in the fence! Looks like all hell broke loose behind me. :)

I untangle myself from the Honda and got going but came across an accident heading into clubhouse. Chose to go to the wrong side due to latency issues and ended up in the fence with broken suspension so Shift-R. After that, I was confused whether I had to stop and go in the pits or not but did so after a lap but by that time I was miles behind. I decided to stick with it anyway and sort of enjoyed lapping around.

Thanks.

Sorry, that was not the kind of impression that I wanted to make in my first privateers race.  :-[ I am also sorry to Gareth for the shunt into turn one. I had to shift-R to fix the steering. I did my stop & go. I might have gotten nervous when the leader came by to lap me, and I went wide into turn 2. The accident left me with only three wheels so race over.  :'( I'm looking forward to the next race. I'll try to be more careful next time.  :)

Good race to start a new season. It is a good place with many spots to let people pass you. I wonder why it's always been an important factor in my evaluation of a track  ;).

Unfortunately, I faced twice a situation I've never had in 4 years of racing online: My screen went black twice, the first time after a turn and the second time in the middle of the straight. Both times, I was positive it was over for me,  I tried to leave the track in style , hit a fence, got the screen back and  returned to the track as if nothing had happened !  I can tell you that my experience in the tanks during my time in the armor a long time ago tells me this Ferrari did better than quite a few light armored vehicles  :o

If any of you has an idea about the reason for black outs like that, I would welcome any advice .  I don't have a screen saver as far as I know (I don't want to say "as far as I can see"  :laugh: )

I'm looking forward to Snetterton. I don't know the circuit but I like what I've seen of it.

Hey, Paul, I've just noticed !   Considering it is the first race under the 50% completion rule, you are showing a real aptitude for energy saving !  ;D

There was nothing flukey about your qually position, you bettered that time by almost a second in the race!

Yes you were right to do a S&G.  You've learnt the first lesson, in order to do well you have to stay out of trouble.  Your own and everyone else's.  Once you drop back it is very hard to catch up.

That was fairly horrible.
Started in the middle of the grid - Adam Cooper & I were slowing to avoid a spinning car in T1 - I think a warp contact threw us both out.
Lap 2 - by my replay - looked like an overly-agressive overtake from Maddog left me needing a reset.
I used the track update that Walter recommended - makes Kyalami look much more scenic. Whilst it does have the armco barrier along teh pit-lane it waas more of a mirage - the sort you can drive through. Will probably get a DQ.
Managed to put some reasonable laps together until near the end but put a wheel on the grass while Mr Cheesman's BRM was in hot pursuit (wall my fault). Rejoined after Mike Turner & though we might have a contest but a piston let go on the normally reliable Brabham. Game over.

Trouble personified, at the first corner, of the first race of a new Season, of Ukgpl-ing.  I shall expect the full force of Moderation, to fall upon my battered remnants.

The added excitement at the first corner, started near the back on the grid, where we were stretched all the way back, across the brow of the starting straight.  I was unable to see the stater from my lowly position, and already expected a lack-lustre start from my lack-lustre Cooper.  I was rather surprised to have easily passed 6 cars, before applying the brakes?  I came upon the next gaggle rather fast, and gave a clip round the rear, to an innocent entrant.

I made a bold inside move on Billy, while attempting to regain a spot or two.  The slightest warp was enough to delay us both more than slightly!  And a few laps later, to complete my sad tale, my gearbox was targeted by Paul, as calamity met with fate.  :-\

That was fun. I got caught up at the t1 crash but no harm done, then spent the next 20 laps trying to fend off the advances of Mr T. I failed, and when the leaders came by I settled for 10th. Grats to Andy, Cookie and Hendy, look forward to the next one

That was a very difficult race !
I spent times during the week for training in Brands Hatch, because I registered with Works but I only understood I was declassified to Privateers 2 hours before the race.
Moreover, I could join the server only 10 minutes before the start.
Hopefully, Kyalami is a well known track ...but I had no tested setup for the Ferrari.
My setup was quite good for the qually and I get a nice 4th position but during the race I spun two times at the end of the long straight and then I need to brake earlier than I used to do.
I finished only 6th, disappointed as my objective was at least to keep my initial 4th position.

Now let's go to Snetterton.

    

LOL. My engine let go going up the hill and I knew I needed to pass the S/F line to score. Rolled into the points at about 3 mph!

I've had this occur in the past - a black screen or loss of sound - and was caused by my forgetting to  tweak the power saving settings after re-installing Windows. This might be worth checking.
 I had some initial difficulty joining the race via Multiplayer probably due to the numbers logging on. I wonder what has caused this welcome resurgence of interest in GPL. It might soon be necessary to resurrect the old Clubman division!
My race was marred by an early blown engine (plus a couple of unforced offs) but at least on this occasion that didn't mean a race devoid of other cars.

BTW GEtGames  currently have  F1 2013 on sale for £10. This includes some classic cars and a couple of Classic tracks  - Brands Hatch and  Juarez. Other classic bundles are also available.
It also has a commentary from Murray Walker. Takes me back to F1 97 on Playstation!

Ah the ferrari would have been the better choice, wouldn't it? ;)

Lotus was too unpredictable for me on such a deceptive track. Trying to pass on the straight for the first time I realized I had no idea where the brakepoint was on the right side of the track and went straight through T1, bumping into Cookie without damage to either of us (I think) before bouncing off the retaining wall.

LOL Hendy, it is these pesky strange tracks that none of us have seen before that causes the problem <ahem>.

Make sure you know the braking point for the two long straights at Snetterton or you might find your car airborne once or twice.

You are right on both matters, Michael !

- I removed My UPS before Christmas - the battery was dead - and I guess the software reset the Windows parameters when I uninstalled it . I was back to 15mn for the display with the PC plugged in. Thanks a lot.

- The resurgence of GPL is a fact. Over here, in Québec, the old gang of the defunct QGPL has restarted weekly meetings and as far as the F1Legends league is concerned, we're getting messages every week from people who quit years ago. Long live GPL !

Yes, the Fez seems much more stable under braking...
I saw you coming inside and just let you go (untouched!) just crossing my line some centimeters off my nose ;D

I was in a similar situation as David as I had to switch to Kya in last minute, so I choose the Braby with a reliable setup ;)
Andy was too fast and we both had some warp in the beginning, so my aim was to keep Hendy behind me, who supported me with some spins...
Great racing with fair behaviour of the lapped!

I turned up at 9pm for the Works Brands race and it wasn't on the iGOR list. I looked in here and found a message for me. To even up the grids the Works backmarkers would go in Privs. Works has has an influx of very fast drivers this season and possibly more than a gridful. It has been quite a thankless slog the last 3 seasons just trying to stay on to the end and pick up places due to attrition. I worked out that a hypothetical driver that finished all the Works races, but was nowhere near the pace and finished 2 laps down would still finish about 5th in the championship. I was fed up with being hit from behind by much faster drivers recovering from earlier mistakes and blaming me as I drove my regular pace and line. So I wasn't going to bother to register again, but I changed my mind a day or two ago.

So suddenly I had to go to Kyalami - no problem - just get the Ferrari out and I would be fine. I was surprised with pole and then a good getaway at the start meant that I was in control for the first few laps and then I could pull away a little. I had a problem free race and all the lapped drivers were very courteous. Looking at fastest laps, Hendy was quickest by over a second (with Lotus and some tow) and then 6 of us were separated by 0.6 seconds including 2 BRMs, so there seems to be a lot of closely matched drivers here.

A very entertaining race and my best season start so far!
Grats to the podium and everybody raced: I guess it will be an interesting season.
See you in Snetterton
Cheers

fL

I'm pleased to see my incident with Badblood at 10m34, has met with a fair and reasonable outcome.  A rear impact 1 second later, would have incurred a report of a rear end shunt.  1 second earlier, might have brought up that ambiguous definition of a 'rejoin,' which the Mod team would then have had to circumnavigate.

I am curious that this mid-race incident was not reported to me.  I only received notification  of it's outcome. ( ???

Whoever submits an incident report should put a tick in the check box against the names of the other drivers involved in the incident.  The system then automatically notifies the drivers involved.  I suspect that didn't happen in this case.  Probably not intentional, more likely finger trouble.

Sorry about that Martin. My fault you didn't get notification. Forgot to include you :(

I reported myself...